Toyota: Prius Brakes Have Design Problems

First Posted: 04/05/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:25 PM ET

Toyota Prius Brakes
Toyota has admitted brake problems on the Prius.

TOKYO (Associated Press) - Toyota admitted design problems with the brakes in its prized Prius, adding to the catalog of woes for the world's No. 1 automaker still reeling from a massive U.S. recall involving faulty gas pedals.

Toyota Motor Corp. spokeswoman Ririko Takeuchi said Thursday that Toyota discovered there were design problems with the antilock brake system and corrected them for Prius models sold since late January, including those being shipped overseas.

But the company said it was still investigating how to inform people who had bought the gas-electric hybrid cars. Nothing was decided on that front for Prius cars sold overseas, according to Toyota.

Complaints about braking problems in the third-generation Prius have been reported in both the U.S. and Japan, combining to some 180, and come amid a global recall of nearly 4.5 million other top-selling vehicles for faulty gas pedals.

"We are investigating whether there are defects in the Prius," Toyota executive Hiroyuki Yokoyama told reporters at Toyota's Tokyo.

The company gave few details of the brake flaw. A major Toyota dealership in Tokyo said the automaker had informed dealers that Prius brakes can sometimes fail to work for less than a second but it had not told owners.

"It is disappointing because the Prius was receiving such rave reviews," said Hiroyuki Naito, a manager at the dealership. The latest model Prius hit showrooms last May.

The problem with the Prius -- the best-selling hybrid in the world and Toyota's flagship model -- is a big embarrassment for the automaker in its home turf Japan and another blow in the U.S., its biggest market.

In recent weeks, the automaker had answered questions about its overseas recalls for gas pedals with assurances that problems didn't extend to Japanese vehicles, implying that it was doing a better job with quality control in Japan.

The transport minister is ordering an investigation and said a recall for the Prius should be considered. U.S. authorities are also investigating.

Earlier in Washington, U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood startled the public with a comment, which he later retracted, that Americans should park their recalled Toyotas unless driving to dealers for accelerator repairs.

The popular gas-electric Prius was not part of the most recent recall over sticking gas pedals in eight top-selling models including the Camry that spanned the U.S., Europe and China.

Toyota senior managing director Takahiro Ijichi defended the automaker's quality standards.

"We have not sacrificed the quality for the sake of saving costs," he said. "Quality is our lifeline. We want our customers to feel safe and regain their trust as soon as possible."

Toyota for the first time gave an estimate of the costs of the U.S. recall at up to $2 billion with $1.1 billion for the costs for the repairs and $770 million to $880 million in lost sales.

The Prius, the world's best-selling hybrid, has been extremely popular in Japan because of government incentives that made hybrids tax-free. More than 170,000 the new remodeled Prius cars were sold in Japan and about 103,000 have been sold in the U.S. since May.

Despite snowballing problems with quality, Toyota said Thursday it returned to profit in the October-December quarter because of healthy sales of its green models including the Prius, and raised its forecast for the fiscal year through March.

Net profit for October-December was about $1.7 billion. It forecast a $880 million annual profit compared with its previous forecast for a $2.2 billion loss.

Toyota also raised its full year sales outlook to 7.18 million units from 7.03 million. The revised forecast remains lower than the 7.57 million vehicles it sold last fiscal year. And it is unclear how well Toyota sales and profits will hold up in coming months.

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TOKYO (Associated Press) - Toyota admitted design problems with the brakes in its prized Prius, adding to the catalog of woes for the world's No. 1 automaker still reeling from a massive U.S. recall i...
TOKYO (Associated Press) - Toyota admitted design problems with the brakes in its prized Prius, adding to the catalog of woes for the world's No. 1 automaker still reeling from a massive U.S. recall i...
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10:25 AM on 02/05/2010
Are these Toyota cars that have the problem 'fly by wire' or is the gas pedal connected by a physical cable? All 'fly by wire' aircraft and automobiles, any brand, have had some level of failure, some at least modified electronically to avoid the problem. So far Toyota has said they will replace gas pedals and floor mats - yet they say they need to 'train' technicians to fix the problem. I am curious about the type of 'training' needed to do such trivial work. I remember the Audi problem too. 60 minutes did a show in which Ed Bradley asked them why only the upscale, on average highly intelligent drivers that buy brand new luxury cars had the problem only with Audi and only one model?

It seems likely that there are a number of problems here. It seems likely that Toyota is not willing to admit that it has a fly by wire problem.

I am an investor, I have been concerned about Toyota because they have shown much more interest in recent years in bribing Congress than in automobiles. Ford, Chrysler, and especially GM have been heavily bribing Congress before and during their downfall. There is more profit (short term) in bribing Congress than any productive business. Do not to business or invest in any corporation that bribes Congress heavily. You will be cutting your own throat and your investment will collapse when government can no longer protect the corporation because reality wins in the end.
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08:14 AM on 02/05/2010
Here comes another one, just like the other one.....recall, that is.

Buy GM, Chrysler, Ford.

American cars built by American workers in American factories putting money into the American economy.
09:39 PM on 02/04/2010
Buy American.

I persoally like the Ford Fiesta coming out soon.

Gets insane mileage!

http://www.fordvehicles.com/cars/fiesta/
07:29 PM on 02/04/2010
After many years of buying American I finally bought a Toyota and I have had very superior performance from this car.
My Mercury had constant failing sensors with brakes, windows, wipers, and needed a new fuel injector all of which were not covered by warranty after 60k miles. ( I paid for extra warranty) We bought a new Oldsmobile that had a unique fuel injector. It turned off every so often on the highway. GM finally decided to issue a recall. Why do I wonder at this massive recall by Toyota? Maybe because the U.S. bought GM and wants desperately to sell a lot of cars. It just seems a lot too convenient coming all of a sudden. One thing is certain about it. Some of it is due to driver failure and the fear factor that is being promoted. Let it be a lesson to all car manufacturers that have shrugged off safety in the past.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
05:27 PM on 02/04/2010
Many people would buy American if American car makers built something dependable and stylish. If you can afford a Cadillac or Buick then you are probably getting good quality for your money. But what young car buyer wants a Caddy or a Buick? American car makers have dug their own graves over the last 20 years or so by putting out schlocky, ugly, undependable crap. I will never buy an American vehicle again. I am so happy with my 05 Hyundai Tuscon and the new body style just coming out looks even hotter.
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jerryfromcalifornia
I can't get past mods
07:28 PM on 02/04/2010
At least they stop.
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forte88
08:15 PM on 02/04/2010
Too bad after they stop, they won't go again.
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inthedesert
Those who never question will fall for anything.
05:21 PM on 02/04/2010
Anyone out there holding lots of stock in Toyota.....sell, sell, sell!!!!!! LOL.
07:09 PM on 02/04/2010
Yeah, especially since I own a 2008 Prius, and I've been having the same problem with my brakes when I go over bumpy terrain too! I filed a complaint with the NHTSA to urge them to widen the investigation to previous years' models of the Prius too...
07:13 PM on 02/04/2010
Naahhh, the time to buy is while the sheep are stampeding.
09:52 PM on 02/04/2010
bah-bah!
05:14 PM on 02/04/2010
This increasing media frenzy about Toyota vehicles seems more than a little suspicious to me. How many remember the Audi recall scandal of 10-15 years ago which almost drove Audi out of this country? How many remember that this media frenzy proved to be absolutely fraudulent when all of the facts were in? Those who push their mats under the accelerator and those who press the accelerator instead of the brake are the ones at fault. Let's get real and place blame where it belongs. Also realize that EVERY vehicle may have something which needs repair and that is why there are warranties which are honored by the manufacturer.
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04:56 PM on 02/04/2010
Maybe Toyota's reluctance to come forward with these problems sooner is a cultural problem. In Nintendo's early days, we were so frustrated to know that Japan had a bunch of games that weren't being sold outside of Japan. The explanation I read for this was that Japan gets embarrassed as a culture to send flawed products to other countries but the Japanese people don't mind using their own flawed products so they were only sending games they thought were thoroughly beta tested.
So I don't know if what I read was bs or not but the Toyota situation reminded me of Nintendo.
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H@ll is other people.
05:20 PM on 02/04/2010
Because we all know that no US car companies have ever tried to conceal their lethal flaws.
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05:53 PM on 02/04/2010
WWDD.

What would DENSO do?

Have they cleared themselves yet?
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05:48 PM on 02/04/2010
Clearly they are not FORD.

http://www.safetyforum.com/fordfuelfires/
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05:49 PM on 02/04/2010
And that's why I own a Nintendo instead of a Ford. Mario Kart rules!
09:43 PM on 02/04/2010
Just a little old.

You still drive a 1973 Pinto???
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04:13 PM on 02/04/2010
People are wondering how much Toyota's software is involved in the problems. Scary reminders of Hal in 2001. "I won't stop this car, Dave."
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04:34 PM on 02/04/2010
That was to good. Got a laugh on that one.
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05:49 PM on 02/04/2010
Service pak 2.0 will be available soon.
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04:11 PM on 02/04/2010
The car repair shop I go to said there used to be lots of good cars but not anymore, except for Toyota but now I guess that shoe has dropped. Mostly we lamented about how bad Volkswagen has gotten because it's an emotional favorite.
09:45 PM on 02/04/2010
Volkswagen's design and quality has gone WAY up.

They had the highest percentage of car sales last month.
03:09 PM on 02/04/2010
A friend of mine is an industry analyst in the insurance industry. He said that 5 years ago, Toyota decided at the corporate level that it wanted to become the largest auto retailer in the world. They did it, but they consciously decided to sacrifice quality manufacturing and engineering in order to do it. Unfortunately, it looks like it has come back to bite them in the ass. Hopefully this will encourage people to buy American again.
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03:18 PM on 02/04/2010
I have no problem buying American if it has a durable, quality product. But what auto is made in America anymore. Seems all of them are built in Mexico and Canada. There are no true American auto makers anymore. If anything Toyota makes many of their products here, and hires American workers for assembly. That's more than what I can say about Ford and GM.
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04:09 PM on 02/04/2010
You need to do some more homework. Way off base.
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04:12 PM on 02/04/2010
Even the cars that are built here have a whole lot of foriegn made parts.
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05:51 PM on 02/04/2010
Yes buy a FORD.

http://www.safetyforum.com/fordfuelfires/
09:46 PM on 02/04/2010
You work for Toyota???

LOL
03:02 PM on 02/04/2010
woohoo! looks like our current account deficit will go down this year
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02:10 PM on 02/04/2010
Unsafe cars are just unsafe cars, no matter who manufactures them. It's Toyota's turn to feel the heat from a poor design.
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05:55 PM on 02/04/2010
Just not the heat of the Ford Pinto... hehehe
09:47 PM on 02/04/2010
yakmon, are you living in the early seventies????
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01:41 PM on 02/04/2010
NEWS FLASH: the cup holders still work!
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Happy to be here
05:56 PM on 02/04/2010
The smug could use some buffing.
It's a little smugdged.
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01:34 PM on 02/04/2010
This is Bushs fault, along with Chaney. Another example of why these folks need to be locked up. I am serious here folks!!!.
03:09 PM on 02/04/2010
Chaney?
09:48 PM on 02/04/2010
What did they do???

Crush them with their SUVs.

LOL