Abdulmutallab Interrogation Critics Now Insist They Deserve A Pass For Their Ignorance

First Posted: 02- 8-10 03:37 PM   |   Updated: 04-10-10 05:12 AM

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On yesterday's edition of "Meet The Press", John Brennan took the opportunity to blast his GOP critics for politicizing the war on terror. A worthy cause, considering how consistently wrong and foolish they've been on all matters related to the failed Christmas bomb attack.

On the show, this part stood out:

BRENNAN: On Christmas night, I called a number of senior members of Congress. I spoke to Senators McConnell and Bond. I spoke to Representative Boehner and Hoekstra. I explained to them that he was in F.B.I. custody. That Mr. Abdulmutallab was in fact talking. That he was cooperating at that point. They knew that in F.B.I. custody means that there's a process then you follow as far as mirandizing and presenting him in front of the magistrate.


None of those individuals raised any concerns with me, at that point. They didn't say, "Is he going into military custody? Is he going to be Mirandized?" They were very appreciative of the information. We told them we'd keep them informed. And that's what we did. So, there's been quite a bit of an outcry after the fact. Where again, I'm just very concerned on behalf of the counterterrorism professionals throughout our government that politicians continue to make this a political football. And are using it for whatever political or partisan purposes.

Yesterday, I gave myself a pat on the back for correctly intuiting that the process went something like this:

1. Captain Crotchfire happens. He is detained and treated as you would anyone who tried to kill people with an incompetently weaponized scrotum.


2. GOP lawmakers are informed.

3. Some time passes. It looks like nothing bad has happened, so this can be politicized.

4. A plan is hatched to politicize this. It does not make any fucking sense, but whatever. People remember being scared, they can be made to be scared of a sad and lonely loser who pasted flammable goop on his balls for the glory of his Sky-God.

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5. Al Qaeda is like: "Wow. Thanks for taking an incident that would normally make us embarrassed to be in the terrorist business, and turning it into a super-successful field op! We will definitely associate ourselves with this sad loser."

6. We are honestly asked to entertain the possibility that it would have been better to have tortured this sad loser, so that we could have some false intelligence, presumably on this network of sad losers who paste gunk to their taint and set them afire.

7. The media aids and abets the cynical opportunists who populate the political landscape, and they should all die in the snow but they won't.

Now you can add the eighth part of the process: the part where the same GOP lawmakers, weeks after the fact, now think they deserve a pass because HOW SHOULD THEY KNOW HOW THE F.B.I. works, anyway? Via Spencer Ackerman, at the Washington Independent:

Sure enough, Sen. Chris Bond (R-Mo.) and Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-Mich.), the ranking Republicans on the congressional intelligence committees, insisted that Brennan never specifically told them the FBI would Mirandize Abdulmutallab. "If he had I would [have] told him the Administration was making a mistake," Bond said. The entire Republican leadership, including fact-averse Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and House GOP leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) echoed Bond's claims in one form or another. Apparently these men, who claim leadership on national security, know less about FBI procedure than the average movie-goer. Obviously the FBI Mirandizes suspects in their custody.

I think that Hoekstra's inclusion is worth noting, because no one is faster to grandstand on national security issues than Hoekstra. Maybe if, in the end, he's so ignorant in the basics of law enforcement procedures, he should just calm down, shut up, stop twittering, and of course maybe rein in his instinct to turn everything he knows nothing about into an opportunity for personal enrichment.

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On yesterday's edition of "Meet The Press", John Brennan took the opportunity to blast his GOP critics for politicizing the war on terror. A worthy cause, considering how consistently wrong and foolis...
On yesterday's edition of "Meet The Press", John Brennan took the opportunity to blast his GOP critics for politicizing the war on terror. A worthy cause, considering how consistently wrong and foolis...
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paulacvdw   05:19 PM on 2/10/2010
I don't understand why anybody pays any attention to anything the Republicans say. And that strongly includes the media who clamor for their uneducated comments.
idisVA   04:14 PM on 2/10/2010
The Republicans are looking more and more like the blundering buff00ns they are
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capitalismisevil   04:03 PM on 2/10/2010
pelosi was briefed on water-boarding. the witch did not raise any objection, until after the fact.
Mister Wu   04:15 PM on 2/10/2010
They kept her hostage under penalty of treason when they brief her.
goodpyr   04:24 PM on 2/10/2010
Specific link to waterboarding please.
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capitalismisevil   04:27 PM on 2/10/2010
Sure, here you go:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/05/cia_says_p­elosi_was_­briefed_on.html

I know this will not stop your defense of the vile pelosi, but do not let facts get in your way.
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foodchain11   04:02 PM on 2/10/2010
PLEASE keep doing this. The only way our country can get out and stay out of the "Dark Ages" is for the MSM to report TRUTH rather than simply letting each side speak. "No more lies" should be the new mantra of this country for all
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NHGranite   09:02 AM on 2/09/2010
Jason, shame on you! We know how it works because we watch 24. Funny, innit? 24 is a Fox show
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RobtChristian   03:39 PM on 2/10/2010
As Laura Ingraham one said:
"Americans love Jack Bauer. They love the show 24. In my mind, thats as good a referendum as any that it's ok to use torture methods against suspected terrorists"
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otalp   08:53 AM on 2/09/2010
Sooner or later a US soldier will be captured and treated horribly on video. They will do to him or her exactly what the republicans advocate theat we do to the people we capture or arrest. Do you think the republicans will protest that?
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Chise67   08:06 AM on 2/09/2010
It's outrageously funny now that a Democrat, who is BLACK, is in the white house, all of a sudden all these shrill advocates of the constitution want to violate it !!!!!!!! Where are the constitutional defenders at on this issue? Teabaggers, are you there? Or is this an issue where you will have to think before you spew out some vitriolic garbage?
Bozwellian   01:29 AM on 2/10/2010
Be sure to remember that MSM is deeply , arrogantly at fault as well for they give these abysmalities constant air / print feed time in order to fill their 24/7 BLAH-ables !! MSM needs to be held accountable as well --the yokel could then just yokel into blowback wind instead they are allowed to be perceived as IF they had comething CREDIBLE to offer when mere triped up hype !!
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batmanindy   03:21 PM on 2/10/2010
Easy answer here -- stop watching the MSM. I blocked faux news in 2004 from my cable channel changer and have not watched CNN, MSNBC or network news in probably 6 months or more now. I use the internet almost exclusively for news.
Clevelandinwi   04:39 AM on 2/09/2010
Let's see ...... Have I got this right? We don't want to Mirandize people now? What the hell happened?
Mister Wu   04:16 PM on 2/10/2010
Isn't this why we fought the cold war?
Hello Stalinist Russian KGB.
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msgirlintn   03:15 AM on 2/09/2010
This is just one more example of the Repubs getting caught in a lie and trying to talk their way out of it. It is ridiculous how they are playing politics with national security. They will do anything or say anything just to try to win back the majority and defeat this President.

Hoekstra was just too anxious to get his fund raising letter out.
macgregor59   03:17 AM on 2/09/2010
I can tell you must be one of those Nashville gals.
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msgirlintn   03:39 AM on 2/09/2010
And just how can you tell that?
Clevelandinwi   04:40 AM on 2/09/2010
You really should not talk at all.
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bascombe   12:04 AM on 2/09/2010
They are liars and they are incompetent!!!!!!

Facts hinder Republican smear tactic

Feb. 3: Rachel Maddow fact-checks Republican complaints that the Christmas underwear bomber case is being mishandled by the Obama administration. Chris Hayes of The Nation offers analysis of Obama's apparent counter-campaign.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/35227215#35227215
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Chise67   08:13 AM on 2/09/2010
That would be INFORMATION that you're trying to share! These folks don't want facts, just hateful soundbites that generate fervor & dissension! Never underestimate the power of stupidity!
Bozwellian   01:31 AM on 2/10/2010
and NEVER under estimate the dismality of the media to fling the spewed tripe in order to fill their 24/7 cycles !! THEY TOO ARE RESPONSIBILE and should indeed be held accountable !!!
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msgirlintn   09:22 PM on 2/15/2010
chise,

I know that people can tell I'm from TN and I don't hide the fact that I am from Nashville. Just wondered if they could tell from the comment.
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NobodylikesHim   09:09 PM on 2/08/2010
Can't we just use the Patroit Act on them? Call them insurrectionists?
Mister Wu   04:18 PM on 2/10/2010
Yes, take them to GITMO before one of them drive a fertilizer bomb into another Federal Building.
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Tom Joad   07:55 PM on 2/08/2010
21st Century Miranda Rights for The Republiban:

You have the right to remain silent. The sooner you exercise your right to remain silent, the better for the rest of us. If you refuse to remain silent, you will, without doubt, say something so ridiculously stoopid that you will wish you had exercised your right to remain silent, particularly since we are likely to openly publicize your stoopidity to your stoopid supporters.
sards   07:02 PM on 2/08/2010
What amazes me about these hypocrite republicans is that when it was discovered that the Bush administration was using enhanced interrogation techniques, torture, on the detainees, which was a violation of the Geneva Convention, these same republicans Bond, Hoekstra, McConnell, and Boehner where all saying that the detainees are not uniformed solders, not solders of any state, not military combatants and therefore should have no protection under the Geneva Convention. Now these same bast**ds are crying, “These are military combatants and should be held and tried in a military establishment.”
Why can’t the American public see through this drama?
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bascombe   12:06 AM on 2/09/2010
the American public DO see through this drama!!!!!
Clevelandinwi   04:41 AM on 2/09/2010
You sure?
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NHGranite   09:08 AM on 2/09/2010
I don't think so. These are the same Republicants who were in the Politico poll:
According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans believe Obama is a socialist; 39 percent think Obama should be impeached; 24 percent said Obama wants “the terrorists to win”; and 31 percent agreed with the statement that Obama is “a racist who hates white people.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0210/32384.html#ixzz0f30nIWzx
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jamaicalover   06:07 PM on 2/08/2010
I can't believe Independent voters want these people in control of the white house again.
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Chise67   08:07 AM on 2/09/2010
My sentiments exactly!
Bozwellian   01:44 AM on 2/10/2010
THe saniety of them is surely questionable--they come off as an antitthesis of what is TRULY in their own best interests to even consider re-installing what passes as "republicanism" at the present. The GOP has allowed the whacked fringed and outright racist to grab hold and it IS to the party's detriment !! Must admit the Dems give pause , as they have not gotten THEIR act together obviously when as a MAJORITY , the stage is given to the whack-jobs who are allowed ANY lie to jsutify and seemingly NO REBUKE !!!
Mister Wu   04:21 PM on 2/10/2010
Must be something in our water now. Most Americans have AADD.
Appleton   05:58 PM on 2/08/2010
Let us be clear about these gentlemen. First, they believe in torture as a matter of policy, despite its illegality under U.S. and international law. Second, the constantly denigrate our system of justice by demanding that all terrorist suspects be subjected to show trials before kangaroo courts. Third, they have a history of making false statements on matters of national security. Many people may argue that they are acting out of a good faith concern for this country, but I disagree. Those who politicize every controversy and advocate illegality are neither patriots nor friends of the Constitution.

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