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White House Takes Aim At Lobbyists Trying To Sink Student-Loan Bill

First Posted: 04/11/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:30 PM ET

Sallie Mae Student Loan White House Lobbyists

The Obama administration has launched a final push to get one of the president's signature education reform initiatives, lashing out in unusually strong terms at the lobbying effort that threatens its passage.

Taking aim at Sallie Mae, the largest student lender in the country and a driving force behind the lobbying effort, Education Secretary Arne Duncan on Tuesday accused the company of using taxpayer funds to lobby and advertise, and cast its executives as white-collar millionaires uninterested in serious education reform.

"Sallie Mae executives have paid themselves hundreds of millions of dollars in the last decade while teachers, nurses, and scientists -- the backbone of the new economy -- face crushing debt because of runaway college tuition costs," Duncan said.

In an interview with the Huffington Post, Duncan called the administration's plans to overhaul the student loan program by ending government subsidies for private lenders "a once-in a generation, maybe once-in-a lifetime" opportunity that Congress would be foolish to let slip away.

But slip away it may. Despite its common-sense appeal and its passage by the House of Representatives, the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act -- which would eliminate the role that private industry plays in originating student loans -- has gotten a tough reception in the Senate, in large part because private lenders have spent a boatload of money protecting their turf.

Last week, The New York Times reported that Sallie Mae had launched an intense lobbying effort to push the Senate's hand, including "sit-downs with lawmakers, town-hall-style meetings and petition drives to plead their case and stay in business." Over the past year, the company spent more than $4 million lobbying Congress, a review of campaign finance records showed. That was the equivalent of $25,000 for every day Congress was in session.

Asked about the lobbying campaign. Duncan replied: "I think banks have had a sweet deal. They're a powerful lobbying force, and working-class families don't have lobbyists working for them. They're just trying to make ends meet and pay to go to college. And so you have strong, entrenched interests that have lobbied and continue to lobby to this day, and they're running ads in states. And you have, on the flip side, millions of working-class families trying to do the right thing and go to school."

How the debate evolved to this is, in many ways, a reflection of the complications the legislative process has presented to the White House generally. Last fall, President Obama called the idea of removing the private industry's role in originating student loans a "no-brainer." Instead of giving private lenders federal subsidies and guarantees to make student loans (as is the case under the Federal Family Education Loan program) the government would simply do it itself. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that reform would save taxpayers about $87 billion over the next ten years -- money that would, in turn, be invested towards expanding Pell Grants for students in addition to other education initiatives. Smart politics, in short, begat even better political messaging. At least the House thought so, passing the Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act this summer.

But in the Senate, the lobbyists have had better luck, successfully trotting out two basic arguments: That students would default more frequently with the government in the role of lender; and that reforming the student loan industry would result in substantial job loss in the private sector.

Supporters of the bill insist neither charge is legitimate. For starters, government is already chest deep in the loan industry, following the collapse of the financial markets and the decision of many schools to switch to direct loan programs. According to the Department of Educations congressional budget justification, more than 88 percent of federal student loan volume in the 2008-2009 academic year "was finance through capital provided by" the department. The remaining 12 percent is what the law would affect.

As for potential job losses, private industry would still be involved in servicing student loans -- making sure borrowers are making their payments on time, preventing default, and providing them with other services as well.

"I haven't found one [argument from Sallie Mae's lobbyists] that made sense yet," said Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), chair of the House Education Committee. "We are now providing 88 percent of all the capital and over the next ten years we can save 85 billion dollars doing it a different way. And that money can be used to enhance the educational opportunities of millions of students in this country. It is a no brainer."

But conservative Democrats in the Senate, especially those with ties to the lending industry, have long been skittish on the issue. And their concerns, Capitol Hill aides say, have only deepened as the bill has been cast as a government intervention.

Miller, in an interview with HuffPost, insisted that the outlook still "looks pretty good" and that the likely avenue for passage in the Senate will be through a parliamentary procedure that allows a simple up-or-down vote. "It is in the reconciliation instructions today with the House," he said. "So that is done. And all the conversations I've had with the administration, the Senate, they will probably go together."

Duncan, likewise, spoke encouragingly about the bill's prospects. There is, he stressed, no parallel to draw between this legislative process and health care reform -- another Obama initiative that once seemed destined for passage. "I don't know if I agree with the analogy," he said. "The choice is so amazingly clear to me. You just stop subsidizing banks, and you save tens of billions of dollars of savings in education.


"We feel a sense of urgency in this," Duncan said. "It's a once in a lifetime, once in a generation opportunity. These kinds of opportunities don't come along too often. And we want to make sure we have a chance to invest unprecedented resources in dramatically improving education in our country."


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The Obama administration has launched a final push to get one of the president's signature education reform initiatives, lashing out in unusually strong terms at the lobbying effort that threatens its...
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
05:21 PM on 02/21/2010
If senators sink this reform, there will be consequences for them.
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magnoliabird
01:09 PM on 02/10/2010
The President needs to be "In-Your-Face" and call out those lobbyist on National TV and make is transparent and plain as to what tricks are being played. He is not doing enough "calling out" as he said he would. We need to see more of this. Perhaps then folk on the Hill and Lobbyist will think twice because they will be exposed on National TV and we can all throw eggs at them.
11:50 AM on 02/11/2010
the more interesting thing is that while Sallie Mae is spending millions lobbying against the department of education and SAFRA, they also recently won a huge contract to service student loans for the department...talk about "biting the hand"!! That's what the Government should be "calling out"!!
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LeLoup
Res ipsa loquitur, ergo tace!
05:22 PM on 02/21/2010
All the Dept has to do is cancel the contract and tell SM: "Sue us!"
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Eris23Skidoo
Dischordian Keynesian
12:03 PM on 02/10/2010
So much for "conservatives" being "good with our money". They just pay off the lobbyists, no matter what the issue is.
11:54 AM on 02/10/2010
This is a horrible Bill, designed to force taxpayers to pay for students loans, Obama must think America has unlimited funds and a vibrant economy, he doesn't have a clue once again!
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Chris Rautmann
01:20 PM on 02/10/2010
The current system is far worse.
The government gives banks the money for student loans.
The banks skim off the top and bottom in charging fees and interest.
If the student cannot pay back the loan, the government pays off the bank.
And, meanwhile, the rules are written so that the banks can continue garnishing wages, defaulting the loan, and continually depriving the student of any chance of getting ahead.

The current system is a heads banks win, tails everyone else loses proposition.

It would be FAR cheaper for the government to cut out the middleman, and pocket the interest payments that are currently going to the banks.
11:32 AM on 02/10/2010
Lobbyists can throw down millions and millions in bribery money, but if members of Congress do not take it, the lobbyists will learn it does not work.
So we have to wait and see how Congress votes. Will they be bought or will they do the right thing?
Then I will vote.
11:23 AM on 02/10/2010
The loan forgiveness plan doesn't make any sense on 2 levels, if you go into public serice. All it does is drive up debt.

1. It exempts you from having to pay back the loan after, what, 10 years? That mean the taxpayers kick in the rest.

2.It puts you right on the gov't payroll. That means the taxpayers are paying your salary.

It just drives up the debt.

And fyi, public sector employees aren't making 22k a year. The avg salary is around 81k. Private sector is not very far ahead because the public sector jobs raised salaries to get more qualified applicants....
12:34 PM on 02/10/2010
The avg government (fed) salary in DC is about 76k (http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/12/business/econwatch/entry5007862.shtml).

The overal average for government jobs is about 56 K (http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-Government).

After adjusting for relative numbers, education level needed, etc. government pay lags behind private sector.

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12:57 PM on 02/10/2010
Nice. That is very true. Look at a federal gov't employee salary vs municipality. There is a sharp disparate space.
01:22 PM on 02/10/2010
Your link doesn't work.

Look up avg. salary of gov't employees with college degrees salary. Professionals start at $42,100.

Make sure you don't include clerical, admin, student, clerical, etc... We are talking about degreed-jobs and people paying back loans.

We can include all of the lower jobs to bring the salary down, but that is not relative to the student loan conversation if they're not going to school.
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Graham7720
MiddleMan
10:48 AM on 02/10/2010
We have a loan with Sallie Mae. They have questionable accounting methods. Google Sallie Mae and you will find some heartbreaking stories. I hope this article makes people think twice about taking a loan out with SM. Will never deal with these parasites again.
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blueken
Finger Picking blues man
09:34 AM on 02/10/2010
I have often wondered what the default rate on student loans must be when you consider that 1/3 of freshman don't make it to the finish line. How do you pay off those loans when you are working at min wage? So if a large number of those loans are protected by the government, the banks have another pretty sweet deal. What do the banks bring to the table to earn this sweet deal? Not much..........
11:04 AM on 02/10/2010
You mean the taxpayers get a raw deal, just like Fannie/Freddie....

People just disregard loans....
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blueken
Finger Picking blues man
11:42 AM on 02/10/2010
How much of an effort is made by the bank to get the loan repaid? I have heard of lawyers and doctors makeing 7 figures that just do not pay. The bank gets paid when they send the loan to default. That's what the government guarentee is all about. Why cut the bank in on the profits when the loan is paid?
09:09 AM on 02/10/2010
What I find particularly galling about Sallie Mae, and something I wish the HuffPost or some other news outlet would address, is their break-my-heart claim that they'd have to lay off workers should they not get their government handouts. I've dealt with both Sallie Mae (through no choice of my family's - foisted on us by the college) and the direct loan office in Washington. Any contact with Sallie Mae has been with a worker in India. And with only a couple of exceptions, the info they provided turned out to be completely wrong. Some are earnest and all, but they mainly just tell me all is well after I received a questionable correspondence, and then a week later I get the same correspondence. With the direct loan process, I immediately get to talk to a knowledgeable person in the U.S. who readily pulls up our file in the database and competently addresses my concern. And, the direct loan interest rates have been lower. The contrast is stark. So I urge the Post to keep sounding the drumbeat on this assault on the taxpayer - something that should be appalling to Republicans based on their rhetoric, but because it favors their constituency they are all for.
Tuned IN
You Can't Make This Stuff Up!!
10:13 AM on 02/10/2010
Don't kid yourself: those nice sounding employees are employees of lenders like Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citigroup and Sallie Mae. Yes, Sallie Mae said they would bring back 2000 jobs from the Philippines, but they haven't yet--they re using it as a bargaining chip. Even still that will not make up for the 6,000 employees they laid off because of poor acquisitions, bad loans made on the private credit side... oh, and their mortgage division that went bust.
09:02 AM on 02/10/2010
GET RID OF THE GOP LEADERSHIP !

GET RID OF THE GOP LEADERSHIP !

VOTE THEM OUT !

GOP IS DESTROYING AMERICA !
09:05 AM on 02/10/2010
What is the GOP leading? They have to be in control of something to matter.....
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tonebender
09:41 AM on 02/10/2010
They are leading the effort to undermine the good of the American worker as they have for decades of course.
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jasonsabio
10:59 AM on 02/10/2010
They're LEADing a campaign of obstructionism in the Senate. You don't need to control the Senate to do this. In a threat to our democracy and the will of the people who voted a clear majority in both houses they are not allowing members of the Senate to have an up or down vote on numerous policy proposals, in this case it's student loan reform.

Or did you not read the article you were commenting on?
11:13 AM on 02/10/2010
you are so right dolphi333 . .
08:47 AM on 02/10/2010
i am as conservative as they come, and I think this student loan bill is a great idea. The notion that students are going to school on the backs of these student loans, with tuition surging every year, and now will have a harder time than ever trying to find a job, it's going to crush an entire generation of youth if something isn't done, and done right now. We have to to put something in place to stop the pending youth loan revolt that will come when creditors come calling on their student loans they can't pay without a job. This is one Obama plan i happen to agree with!
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Sharon Corcoran
10:27 AM on 02/10/2010
call your fellow republicans ask them to demand that their representatives vote for this- This is extremely important. Students are suffering- This outsourcing of American jobs should outrage people- They gouging by these lenders should outrage people- Why do we want to keep paying the middle man when he is destroying this country? I have spoken to many Republicans and they won't budge-
10:29 AM on 02/10/2010
Thank you for your honesty. It's refreshing to hear that.
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JohnBryansFontaine
Liberal Democrat
08:44 AM on 02/10/2010
It will be even better when the White House starts going after all of the anti-worker, anti-EFCA lobbyists.
09:13 AM on 02/10/2010
or even crush the unions that survive this reset
JPFL
A church steeple with a lightning rod on top?
08:33 AM on 02/10/2010
"They're a powerful lobbying force, and working-class families don't have lobbyists working for them."

Yes we do. They're called senators and representatives. They just aren't doing their job.
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LivingDebtFree
I bet you I can be less competitive than you.
09:07 AM on 02/10/2010
Ditto.
09:16 AM on 02/10/2010
Oh they're doing their job alright. They work for the lobbyists.
08:12 AM on 02/10/2010
The saddest thing is that the evil side will go for privatizing the IRS after this. The dems will say the right things but will not do anything to stop it, because, face it, some of them are really from the other side.
Poor Americans, that's us, have no idea how they are being played by these greedy corporations and their lobbyists. They will rob the American dream until the tax-base totally dries up and there is nothing left to snatch. Then they will move to other avenues in other countries. They are multinational, after all. I know the skeptics will raise the eyebrow, but where else can the continuing rise in unemployment, recessions, unaffordable colleges, etc. will land the US eventually? There is no earthly reason for any kind of manufacturing jobs to come back. People are increasingly taking up service jobs at extremely low wages. Colleges are getting too expensive. The politicians who are supposed to protect people have instead pledged allegiance to the dark side...the ignorance and blindness of most Americans is sickening, just sickening. The Dem party has been infiltrated by the evil doers. We need a new party of the people, by the people, and for the people.
09:15 AM on 02/10/2010
good luck with that one
09:19 AM on 02/10/2010
I agree. The Dems have been infiltrated by "Blue Dog" Dems as well as these, Liberman types, and people who just are too chicken to stand up against conservatives (Dem or Repub)

But with all that said...is the country really Progressive? Maybe ......just maybe its more Conservative and Centrist (Blue Dog Dems) than there are Progressives that's why a lot of the "common sense" ideas never make it.
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Sharon Corcoran
10:42 AM on 02/10/2010
THe majority voted for Obama not the man but the idea that we could change things- Our voices were heard- but we have gone to sleep-
The corps and the Right from Day one has done everything in its power to destroy our dream- for America and they have done a good job- When do you hear our voices on the Media? All we hear is the voices of the corps and the tea partiers- Its up to us to demand change- we are so defeated and it's only been 1yr- The Repubs had 8 yrs- many of us couldn't wait for the reign of destruction to end- 1yr later we are defeated?
08:09 AM on 02/10/2010
The GOP and lobbyists are detroying this country.
09:00 AM on 02/10/2010
That is absolutely True ! The GOP is the fundamenlist jihadists of America. They need to be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE IN 2010. Their agenda is for their own self interests which are big business, NOT the welfare of the American people.

VOTE THE GOP OBSTRUCTIONISTS OUT OF OFFICE IN 2010 !
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LivingDebtFree
I bet you I can be less competitive than you.
09:08 AM on 02/10/2010
Yeah, but who is destroying the country?