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NATO: Rockets Miss Target, Kill 12 Afghan Civilians During Marjah Offensive

ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU   02/14/10 09:01 PM ET   AP

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MARJAH, Afghanistan — Two U.S. rockets slammed into a home Sunday outside the southern Taliban stronghold of Marjah, killing 12 civilians after Afghanistan's president appealed to NATO to take care in its campaign to seize the town.

Inside Marjah, Marines encountered "death at every corner" in their second day of a massive offensive to capture this bleak mud-brick city filled with booby traps, hardcore Taliban fighters and civilians unsure where to cast their loyalty.

Marines confronted a fierce sandstorm as they ducked in and out of doorways and hid behind bullet-riddled walls to evade sniper fire. To the north, U.S. Army troops fought skirmishes with Taliban fighters, calling in a Cobra attack helicopter against the insurgents.

Insurgents littered the area with booby traps and explosives before the offensive, and the sound of controlled detonations – about three every hour – punctuated the day along with mortars and rocket fire.

"Our children are very scared by the explosions. When will it end?" asked Zaher, a 25-year-old poppy farmer who like many Afghans goes by one name.

The civilian deaths were a blow to NATO and Afghan efforts to win the support of residents in the Marjah area, a major goal of the biggest ground offensive of the eight-year war. Marjah, which had a population of 80,000 before the offensive, is a Taliban logistical center and a base for their lucrative opium trade which finances the insurgency.

The rockets were fired by a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, or HIMARS, at insurgents who attacked U.S. and Afghan forces, wounding one American and one Afghan, NATO said in a statement. Instead, the projectiles veered 300 yards (meters) off target and blasted a house in the Nad Ali district, which includes Marjah, NATO added.

The top NATO commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal, apologized to President Hamid Karzai for "this tragic loss of life" and suspended use of the sophisticated HIMARS system pending "a thorough review of this incident," NATO said.

Before the offensive began Saturday, Karzai pleaded for the Afghan and foreign commanders to be "seriously careful for the safety of civilians."

Karzai's spokesman Waheed Omar said the president "is very upset about what happened" and has been "very seriously conveying his message" of restraint "again and again."

Allied officials have reported two coalition deaths so far – one American and one Briton, who were both killed Saturday. Afghan officials said at least 27 insurgents have been killed in the offensive.

In unrelated incidents in southern Afghanistan, NATO said two service members died Sunday – one from small-arms fire and the other from a road side bomb explosion. The international force did not disclose their nationalities, but the British defense ministry reported that a British soldier died Sunday of wounds suffered in an explosion.

Marines and Afghan forces met only scattered resistance when they swooped down by helicopter on the impoverished farming community before dawn Saturday. A day later, however, Taliban attacks were escalating, with small bands of fighters firing rifles and rocket-propelled grenades at troops moving slowly through the bombs and booby traps hidden in homes, residential compounds and along the rutted streets.

"It seems these guys want to get a bit closer," Lt. Carl Quist said as bullets whizzed overhead.

Brig. Gen. Larry Nicholson, a top Marine commander in the south, predicted it could take 30 days to clear Marjah because of all the hidden explosives.

Marines said they would have preferred a straight-up fight to what they called the "death at every corner" crawl they faced as they made their way through the town.

"Basically, if you hear the boom, it's good. It means you're still alive after the thing goes off," said Lance Corp. Justin Hennes, 22, of Lakeland, Florida.

To bypass heavily mined bridges, Marine engineers erected their own Vietnam-era metal spans over canals that irrigate opium poppy fields.

As Marines pushed deeper into town, gunfire forced them to take cover in buildings and compounds not yet cleared of booby traps. In one compound, a dog trained to detect explosives discovered a massive bomb hidden in a pile of trash.

Some troops complained that the strict rules issued by McChrystal to spare civilians were making their job more difficult and dangerous. Under the rules, troops cannot fire at people unless they commit a hostile act or show hostile intent.

U.S. soldiers operating near Marjah said the Taliban can fire on them, then set aside their weapon and walk freely out of a compound, possibly toward a weapons cache in another location.

A few crafty, determined insurgents can keep a larger force engaged for hours with some degree of impunity.

"The inability to stop people who don't have weapons is the main hindrance right now," said 1st Lt. Gavin McMahon of Brooklyn, N.Y. McMahon. "They know how to use our ROE against us," referring to the Rules of Engagement.

In areas where troops have wrested control from the Taliban, the second phase of the operation is under way – trying to convince civilians that their future lies with the government and not the insurgents.

Several shuras, or meetings with community leaders, have been held in Marjah and the surrounding Nad Ali district with more planned.

In one village, Qari Sahib, Afghan officials met with residents Sunday, promising to provide security, pave a road and build a school and a clinic. In exchange, they urged the villagers to renounce the Taliban and push militants to reintegrate into society. To show good faith, a resident who had been arrested for alleged militant activity was freed.

"This is all to the benefit for you people but we need your cooperation," Deputy Gov. Abdul Sattar Mirzekwal, told more than 100 villagers gathered outside a mosque. "Do not let the Taliban come into your area and disrupt security."

Most villagers at the shura expressed support for the government. Others expressed skepticism, laughing and paying little attention to the officials' promises.

Abdul Wali, a 23-year-old farmer, said he hoped people would give the government a chance.

"I'm afraid that if they do not join with the government, there will be fights, clashes and gunbattles in our village," he said. "I hope the government will fulfill all the promises it is making."

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Associated Press writers Noor Khan in Kandahar, Rahim Faiez in Helmand province, and Deb Riechmann, Heidi Vogt and Tini Tran in Kabul contributed to this report.

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11:00 PM on 02/15/2010
[American leaders] are perhaps not so much immoral as they are amoral. It's not that they take pleasure in causing so much death and suffering. It's that they just don't care, the same that could be said about a sociopath. As long as the death and suffering advance the agenda of the empire, as long as the right people and the right corporations gain wealth and power and privilege and prestige, as long as the death and suffering aren't happening to them or people close to them, then they just don't care about it happening to other people, including the American soldiers whom they throw into wars and who come home-the ones who make it back alive-with Agent Orange or Gulf War Syndrome eating away at their bodies. American leaders would not be in the positions they hold if they were bothered by such things. William Blum
06:41 PM on 02/15/2010
In the midst of an economic crisis that's getting scarier by the day, it's time to ask whether the nation can really afford some 1,000 military bases overseas. For those unfamiliar with the issue, you read that number correctly. One thousand. One thousand U.S. military bases outside the 50 states and Washington, DC, representing the largest collection of bases in world history.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/American_Empire/Costs_Empire_1000_Bases.html
02:02 PM on 02/15/2010
Apparently, according to some here, we shouldn't discuss "military matters" because we are not military experts!

So the same would hold true for economic matters (not an economist), health care matters (not a doctor or an insurance company), or our Constitutional Rights (not a lawyer).

Well, as one poster said, you don't need to be a dairy farmer to know when your milk has gone bad.

And last time I checked none of these self appointed, self important censors were showing us their degrees in military or political science or international diplomacy. And if we were to put our futures only in the hands of the so called "experts," we'd be letting the same guys who destroyed the economy, ruined our health care system and screwed up two wars continue to run things.

Oh, wait a minute--we are. How's that working for y'all?
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Kate Zeiss
What fresh Hell is this?
09:17 AM on 02/15/2010
Some commentary starting to filter in that suggests using the HIMARS might have been "overkill" in this particular situation . . .
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LetsGoSteve
09:16 AM on 02/15/2010
Glitch caused error in previous post. Wow! I could get paid for what I do. Where do I apply? Anyone wanting to pay me for what I do, contact me at southunionroad@yahoo.com.

"I was conservative before it was cool"
08:57 AM on 02/15/2010
Why is long distance weaponry still being used in areas of close proximity to civilian populations when such tactics have in the past inevitably led to the loss of civilian lives. It's time to get real, if this war if truly ever going to be won then it is through winning 'hearts and minds', and the only way to do this is engage the Taliban in close quarters fighting; the only way to ensure the safety of civilians. However, such tactics will inevitably lead to a greater loss of life among ISAF forces. The choice which leaders face is therefore either to continue to use long distance weaponry leading to inevitable civilian casualties and thus lose the war, or to engage in close quarters combat increasing the chance of ISAF fatalities but decreasing civilian fatalities winning the 'hearts and minds' of the Afghan people, and thus winning the war overall. Of course the third option is for ISAF forces to accept defeat now and withdraw, preventing any further casualties among military personnel but leaving the Afghan people drowning in the inevitable bloodbath which would follow.
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Ljilja
http://graciouslivingdaybyday.com/
08:16 AM on 02/15/2010
This is how one looses a war.

http://graciouslivingdaybyday.com/
01:50 PM on 02/15/2010
loses
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AndyWright68
Freedom is inevitable!
08:13 AM on 02/15/2010
"Civilian Casualties Called 'Inevitable'"

What a bunch of bull!

Bring home our troops and stop lying!
07:31 AM on 02/15/2010
How to create more terrorists - kill the citizenry. When will this stop?
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simplify
07:43 AM on 02/15/2010
When you start living your life
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AndyWright68
Freedom is inevitable!
08:14 AM on 02/15/2010
Exactly!

Fanned!
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Kaviraj
06:55 AM on 02/15/2010
Gen. Stanley McChrystal, apologized to President Hamid Karzai for "this tragic loss of life" and suspended use of the sophisticated HIMARS system.

Sophisticated?

It veered 300 yards to one side!

That is 300 yards away from "sophisticated". Gen. McChrystal was more "sophisticated" when he lied about Pat Tillman.
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satanlite
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07:17 AM on 02/15/2010
The incorrect area was targeted, I'll lay odds. "veering" of couse by a factor of 300 yards??? Possible, but pretty *amn unlikely.
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eljefefx
07:27 AM on 02/15/2010
I take it you're a qualified Fire Technician on the HAMIRS system?
12:04 PM on 02/15/2010
where is your vitrol for obama? oh i forgot, you guys stump for him so he can do no wrong
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
01:12 PM on 02/15/2010
Perhaps you should read the thread. There's plenty directed at Obama.
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StillAmused
Some mayo on that troll, please...
05:46 AM on 02/15/2010
DOD statistical formula: "If they're de@d, they were 'suspected insurgents'. Simplifies the count."

Cheney would be here to explain it to us, but he's over on ABC... lying through his clenched teeth.
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Kate Zeiss
What fresh Hell is this?
07:08 AM on 02/15/2010
Ever notice how the number of dead "insurgents" is ALWAYS between 25 and 30? That's true of any location: Pakistan, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan . . . Also, whenever civilians are killed, there were always 2 or 3 insurgents among them? Silly twits must think we're really stupid, or not paying attention.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
07:18 AM on 02/15/2010
They do think the main street American is stupid, that's a fact. But then, we won't bring them back.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
02:44 AM on 02/15/2010
Supposedly we have rockets that can slide up a camel's but from 50 miles. If so, how can we be off 300 yards?
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Romeover
Civilization is for weaklings.
06:39 AM on 02/15/2010
How can a Toyota's accelerator stick?
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MossyOak
11:03 AM on 02/15/2010
... and Google has a picture of your front door.
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02:34 AM on 02/15/2010
But this is impossible: I have been assured by various posters over the last couple of days that the Marines are so well trained, such consummate professionals, that my fears that civilians in any kind of proximity to a large number of Marines at work are in extreme peril were not simply unfounded, but ridiculous and even un-American.

This is what happens when you wind up the Marine Corps (or the Army) and set it loose in a town or city. It does its job well, and its job is to kill. Obviously, the assertion that civilian casualties are inevitable in this kind of operation is true, and that's why this operation is so likely to end up as a net loss for the US, even if the Marines and their Afghan "comrades" kill every Taliban in that town. This is a stupid, pointless operation in a stupid and self-destructive war.
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eljefefx
07:20 AM on 02/15/2010
What a wonderful use of sarcasm.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
01:15 PM on 02/15/2010
Please point out the sarcasm.

You get a bunch of people trained to kill and tell them to kill, and they will kill - fact.

You kill innocent people and you earn hatred - fact

We kill enough innocent people and 500,000 troops can't control the country.
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01:24 PM on 02/15/2010
Thanks, hon.
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02:18 AM on 02/15/2010
Thinking how much our troops are wishing they were in Canada watching the Olympics.
And how much the Afghanis also wish they were.
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sarnold15
02:01 AM on 02/15/2010
Stop this evil war. Obama will go down in history as a warmonger just like Bush.
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02:05 AM on 02/15/2010
That is already a matter of historical record. America's first African-American President was a war monger. R.I.P. change we can believe in. Nothing--absolutely nothing--is ever going to put that back into the box.
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jojothedoggirl
Outside a dog a book is mans best friend
06:43 AM on 02/15/2010
I certainly don't think of Obama as a war monger.
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simplify
07:41 AM on 02/15/2010
Like most who comment here less your ego gets in the way, saying whatever you want because you think it doesnt make it true......

Its all empty vitriol all day, everyday and has no real intent.