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Herb Allison, Treasury Official: Government Barely Involved With Citi Despite $45 Billion Bailout

DANIEL WAGNER   03/ 4/10 01:32 PM ET   AP

Herb Allison

WASHINGTON — Facing sharp questions from bailout overseers, Citigroup Inc. CEO Vikram Pandit said Thursday the bank is "fundamentally different" than the tangled behemoth that took more than $45 billion in government aid during the recent financial crisis.

"I am pleased to say we are in a far different and much healthier position," Pandit said in testimony before the Congressional Oversight Panel. The independent watchdog group oversees the $700 billion financial bailout.

Pandit said Citi's experience during the crisis showed the need for a clearer process to deal with large, failing financial firms – a key priority of the Obama administration.

That echoed earlier testimony from Treasury's top official handling the cleanup of the crisis. Assistant Treasury Secretary Herbert Allison said Citi's bailouts were part of "difficult but necessary action to confront a financial system on the verge of collapse."

He said taxpayers will likely end up with a profit on the entire set of Citi rescues. Among them: a $20 billion infusion that has been repaid, and $25 billion that was converted into common stock and has since gained value.

But Allison frustrated panelists by refusing to answer many of their questions. He would not discuss events that preceded his arrival at Treasury, provide any analysis of the company's situation or describe conversations between Citi and Treasury officials.

Allison described Treasury as a "passive investor" that is barely involved in overseeing Citi.

His reticence led panel chairman Elizabeth Warren to ask, "Are you saying today that no one in Treasury monitors the financial condition of Citi, and no one in Treasury is paying attention to the systemic risk that Citi poses?"

"We do look at public information," Allison replied.

Citi's bailouts left Treasury owning 27 percent of Citi's common stock. Taxpayers risked shouldering losses on a financial portfolio worth $301 billion.

The bailouts put Citi in a small club of banks and other companies that required extraordinary assistance to weather the worst of the crisis.

Warren said the great danger is that Citi will always enjoy government support in tough times because of its sheer size.

"The United States government will bear any burden and pay any price to ensure Citigroup does not fail," she said in opening remarks.

Pandit faced his harshest criticism came from Damon Silvers, policy director for the AFL-CIO federation of labor unions.

He said he found it difficult to believe Pandit had no memory of conversations between Citi and Treasury officials at the peak of the financial crisis.

Pandit would not discuss those conversations. Panelists had to ask the question several times before Pandit even acknowledged that they took place.

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WASHINGTON — Facing sharp questions from bailout overseers, Citigroup Inc. CEO Vikram Pandit said Thursday the bank is "fundamentally different" than the tangled behemoth that took more than $45...
WASHINGTON — Facing sharp questions from bailout overseers, Citigroup Inc. CEO Vikram Pandit said Thursday the bank is "fundamentally different" than the tangled behemoth that took more than $45...
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06:44 PM on 03/05/2010
This whole thing about having celebrity role models, or carrying around pictures of the "first man/woman who (fill in blank)" leaves itself wide open to this sort of thing. O.J. was found not guilty in his murder trial, yet was undeniably a great football player- why can't he be a role model? RuPaul was the first LGBT black celebrity that I knew of growing up, and undoubtedly had to break many barriers- why can't he be a role model? Does Clarence Thomas, the only black person on the supreme court, qualify as a role model? The point is that anybody can be a role model; I don't know how anybody can get in trouble for not picking the right sort of role model. Who gets to decide who makes the cut?
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06:46 PM on 03/05/2010
Oops, I had the wrong window open on my computer. Such is the perils of having multiple windows open
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duckfan00
Après nous le deluge
11:02 PM on 03/07/2010
Wow...I thought I had too many merlots...
12:12 AM on 03/05/2010
Some years back a senator famously said "a billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking some real money." I guess things have changed- now it takes something more than $45 billion to merit any attention.
10:52 PM on 03/04/2010
It's one of the reasons why people are dissatisfied. See

http://ofthisandthat.org/SpeciealNews.html
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pepenero
chess player
10:14 PM on 03/04/2010
Well, what did you expect? It's a no accounting, no watchdog, no strings tied, deal. As a family the one consisting of Gov. + Biz. + Corps, makes the mafia look like a bunch of amateur second story types.
Obama is the 'lightning rod', he gets all the heat. No one knows who the Capo di Capi is. Guess what?, you never will.
Ah money, Ah power. Ah limos & bodyguards. Ah tailor made silk suits. Ah the very best of shoes, restaurants, mistresses, you name it.
You guys really believe that they ('they') are going to give that all up? They ain't scared of you, they don't care about you except as consumers.
Complain all you like. No one is listening and no one cares. Long live Democracy!
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patsydecline
we are so post kumbaya...
12:13 AM on 03/05/2010
pretty much with you there...
like a wife being thrown to the curb by her husband when he finds a new easy to please lover(the global economy)...
just too hard for many to face...
09:04 PM on 03/04/2010
If $45 billion is such a little figure to the US Treasury, then why do the middle and lower classes get hassled to pay our taxes?
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10:46 PM on 03/04/2010
because they need that never ending flow of money into the Treasury to cover what's been...well....appropriated?? Where would they have gotten the 750 billion that Paulson demanded (along with no accountability, and that I suspect was stolen already) if it weren't for the u.s. taxpayer, being squeezed, evicted and humiliated by the long arm of the fed ... the treasury.
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10:31 AM on 03/05/2010
geez, don't post when you're tired!

should have been: "taxpayer, being squeezed, evicted and humiliated by the long arm of the fed ... the ***IRS***
08:27 PM on 03/04/2010
sure.
08:04 PM on 03/04/2010
Even though we have the best democracy money can buy, Citibank (and it's peers) have proven that they cannot be trusted with other people's money. They keep going broke. Let them fade away already and get on to institutions that can be trusted and profitable without stealing or lying or deception. Is such a thing possible?

Listen to Dr. Warren.
07:59 PM on 03/04/2010
'vikram pandit', ceo of citi.. wonder if he's learned to tip yet..

anyway, no wonder, when white-collar thugs rob you blind don't expect to be able to 'oversee' what they do with the money. guess what? lending money isn't a real business, it's a criminal enterprise.
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Retired.
07:49 PM on 03/04/2010
Our goverment is the biggest enemy we face.
07:59 PM on 03/04/2010
No the companies who buy our government are the biggest enemy we face.
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pdog
08:04 PM on 03/04/2010
But the government is the only way to stop that and they're not about to bite the hand that's feeding them apparently that's one sweet teat to suckle from.
08:16 PM on 03/04/2010
I know. And Jefferson Davis was your favorite president. Yawn.
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JohnQpublic81
Common sense isn't common.
07:48 PM on 03/04/2010
My biggest problem with the Citi bailout is quite simple, they rose rates to 29.99% for a good chunk of their customers. Despite the treasury owning 27% of the common stock. I have about 2 months worth of payments to Citi, then my account will be closed.
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08:26 PM on 03/04/2010
good for you!
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AmazingChicken
07:37 PM on 03/04/2010
NO FIDUCIARY RESPONSIBILITY?

REALLY??
07:33 PM on 03/04/2010
Wow,

45 BILLION dollars to a private bank

And our public schools and colleges tuitions keep going up for normal people

Shows you who buys Washington. "The banks own the place", quote of the year.
07:07 PM on 03/04/2010
It is complicated ~ Citicorp's primary shareholder is The Kingdom Holding Corporation ~ an extension of the Saudi Royal Family. The Kingdom Holding Corporation is also the primary stockholder of Newscorp / Fox News / Wall Street Journal / The Dow ~ freaky geo-political implications. It is too bazaar to make up ~ I wish Huffpost would look more deeply into these relationships and how they effect our economy and politics. Only Michael Moore pointed out these incestuous relations ~ i.e. the Bush family being deeply connected and friendly with the House of Saud.
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07:03 PM on 03/04/2010
Should anyone know of a sharp and conscientious attorney in Georgia, who enjoys a legal challenge, I have a civil suit against CitiBank/CitiGroup for their part in destroying the market for my product, a common law tort of interference in business prospects.

They fired the first legal shot, thinking it worthwhile to sue a newly minted pauper for some debt from a revolving credit account, thus I counter sued, and I am trying to keep it alive in the Georgia court system, which is not to be confused with anything resembling a justice system.

Citi had its hands in both groups of guilty scoundrels who created the mortgage bubble, having two units, Citi Mortgage and Citi Financial, who issued mortgages, the latter specifically concentrated on the sub-prime market. Meanwhile, its investment unit, foolishly bought up the time-bomb mortgages, giving incentives to lenders to produce more and more of those products. Of course Citi was paying big bonuses to those investment managers to produce great immediate results, which they did long enough to get their bonuses.

Citi and others who participated in the fraudulent issuance of millions of mortgage loans and thus a surge in homes sales, knew that the bloat would produce a like increase in supply and eventually the bubble would pop and create a huge gap in supply and demand.

They are as guilty of ruining my business as if they were firing shots at potential buyers.

-RLee
http://therleepost.blogspot.com
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ciabrat
08:39 PM on 03/04/2010
What is your product?
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06:56 PM on 03/04/2010
His reticence led panel chairman Elizabeth Warren to ask, "Are you saying today that no one in Treasury monitors the financial condition of Citi, and no one in Treasury is paying attention to the systemic risk that Citi poses?"

"We do look at public information," Allison replied."

These people are so corrupt it makes me want to scream.
More proof...This Administration is no different than any Republican Administration.
The Elite OWN and abuse our government no matter what political stripe they paint on their backs.
It's just one big scam after another!
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johnb123
All I ask..just be reasonable....do things my way
07:08 PM on 03/04/2010
I agree, the whole system is corrupt. ALL INCUMBENTS have to go in November!!!
07:34 PM on 03/04/2010
Not if whoever replaces them would be worse.

Please engage brain.

The worst offenders should be primaried as an example.

Voting a bunch of even worse republicans in doesn't solve the problem.
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jeb50
Retired.
07:56 PM on 03/04/2010
Check out GOOOH, Get Out Of Our House. A group out to replace everyone in congress with real people. No big business donations. Just neighbors who want to work together with other nieghbors across the country. No teabaqgger nuts.
10:08 PM on 03/04/2010
Looking at public information is corrupt?

Lol.