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Labor On Dems Who Block Health Reform: We'll 'Take Them Out'

First Posted: 05/09/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:45 PM ET

Ar Outside Senator Lincolns Office

As health care reform enters its do-or-die stage in Congress, union leaders on Tuesday began threatening that they will work to 'take out' Democratic lawmakers who vote against the bill.

In a set of fiery speeches outside a private health insurance lobby gathering on Tuesday, a group of prominent labor and progressive leaders excoriated industry executives, calling them everything from "dark titans" to "domestic enemies."

It was feisty rhetoric that riled up a crowd that organizers put at more than 5,000 who had gathered to demonstrate outside the America's Health Insurance Plans' annual summit in Washington D.C. But an even more compelling discussion was taking place, literally and figuratively, backstage.

In a series of conversations with the Huffington Post, many of labor's leading voices pledged to launch a massive, arm-twisting effort to help persuade skeptical lawmakers to pass health care legislation into law. And in addition to their traditional ammunition -- from email campaigns to town hall events -- talk also centered on exacting electoral revenge against those who end up voting against reform.

"I hope this sends a message to Congress," Gerald McEntee, president of 1.6-million-member AFSCME, told the Huffington Post. "I think we have to demonstrate that we are not going to stand aside, that we are going to take them out if they don't help us at all."

In private, union officials seconded and applauded McEntee's aggression, saying that the labor community was buoyed by the reaction to Lt. Gov. Bill Halter's entrance into the Arkansas Senate Democratic primary. There was discussion of other unions following the AFL-CIO's lead in making independent investments in support of Halter's candidacy. And several aides enthusiastically pointed out that Sen. Blanche Lincoln's (D-Ark.) opposition to making changes to the health care bill through the use of reconciliation already seems to have softened since a primary challenger emerged.

"Isn't it amazing what happens when you get a little opposition?" one top union official asked with a smirk.

The take-on-the-Dems ethos didn't end with Arkansas. Other union leaders said they were exploring whether to invest in other potential primary battles or, by extension, sit out the elections of those Democrats who don't come through on reform. More immediately, some leaders threatened to essentially make life miserable for lawmakers who let the process draw out.

"We are going to be calling and calling members in the days ahead," Anna Burger, Secretary Treasurer of the SEIU and Chair of Change to Win, told the Huffington Post. "And if they leave before the recess and haven't done anything, they are going to get absolutely hounded at home."

"Accountability is very important," she added. "For too long, too many members have done one thing in D.C. and gone home and acted like they cared about the people in their states when they don't."

The threats, both veiled and unveiled, reflect the frustration of the labor community in the year-long course of crafting health care reform. As it stands now, officials aren't yet fully comfortable with health care reform's legislative language and remain in intense negotiations about making policy changes through reconciliation. But the community remains intensely invested in passage and appears willing to target members it traditionally supports. While union leaders on Tuesday made a big effort to castigate the insurance industry outside their meeting, in private they were knee-deep in the inside game of getting reform through Congress.

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John Robert
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10:28 AM on 03/13/2010
Ya gonna hit me with a baseball bat. Thug.
scipio2009
Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
07:22 AM on 03/11/2010
And there you have a fair and comprehensive fix, in my opinion, that does its' best to maintain dynamic learning environments for young people, while also being fair to teachers, regardless of what teachers unions would want to see.
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Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
07:21 AM on 03/11/2010
After a teacher decides which school they would like to teach at, they are obligated to remain at that school until the next "draft" happens, which would be two years later. For new teachers coming out of, there is a lottery available to them every year, during the off-years with the intent of merely plugging holes left by retiring teachers with young teachers. And in addition to the benefits afford to other teachers, if young teachers decide to commit to working at schools that didn't do so well, they will have an opportunity to have some of the money they spent on finishing school reimbursed by the state.

If after the entire process is through, and a teacher has failed to land a job at any of the school districts that they applied to, they can either try to find work in private/charter schools, commit to working with the "teacher's college", a group of final training seminars to help prepare teachers just about to hit the workforce, or merely sit out the year and wait for next year to come.

In addition to this new system, the standards, and the rubrics to study teachers, the state must also commit to funding education at a level that maintains comfortable class size, hypothetically capped around 25 students per class.
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Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
07:21 AM on 03/11/2010
With the pools of teachers roughly set, the next move would be having the individual school principals select their teaching staff. To preserve some sense of continuity, each principal will be allowed immediately retain 15 teachers on their staff, before the process begins. After this point, in a snake-draft format, every principal goes through the pool of possible teachers, until the pool is clear.

After the "draft" is complete, the principals go about filling their staffs.
After the draft, if a teacher had decided to apply to several school districts, several different options for places to teach would be available for every teacher. And as principals go about filling their staffs, every teacher would have the option to accept or decline any offer given to them. To continue on the prior example, the teacher that ended up applying to work in the four different districts now has 4 separate schools in four separate districts to make a final choice from.

To sweeten the pot for teachers, if they decide to teach in a elementary school, middle school, or high school, they will see a $2,500 increase in their base pay, if they decide to work at a school that ranked in the bottom half of all schools, based on the standard, they will receive a $5,000 increase in pay, and if they end up chairing a department, they will receive another $5,000 increase in pay.
scipio2009
Alan Wolfe's "The Future of Liberalism"
07:20 AM on 03/11/2010
Let's take California as an example. Have curriculum standards in place, to measure a baseline of what you would expect children to know at every level. Have a process to certify every teacher for the subjects that he/she would like to teach. Have the teachers unions negotiate a base salary for teachers with the governor, "education commissioner", or whomever has jurisdiction. For every year that a teacher is proven to work in the public school system, he/she will receive $500 in additional salary. In this scenario, if the teachers union is able to negotiate healthcare and a $25,000 base salary, a teacher who had been teaching for 20 years would have a base salary of $35,000. So far, so good.

From this point, the teachers, who have been certified to teach in California, are free to chose as many possible school districts as they would be willing to work in. If a teacher wouldn't mind teach in Oakland, San Francisco, Richmond, or San Bruno school districts, they could apply to work in all of them.
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BryanTheRegOps
04:42 PM on 03/10/2010
Does that include Obama as well? You can pass the Senate Bill but what difference will it make w/o a Public Option and right now Obama has no interest in getting the Public Option pass.
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Quitcherbichin
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03:32 PM on 03/10/2010
HCR is not going to happen until the Dims sit down at the table with the Repubs, as equals, and have
a constructive dialog. Since it looks like the chances of that are slim and none, don't look for any real legislation to pass this session. After that all bets are off because of the manner in which the Dims are approaching the problem. It will be a different day after the Nov elections.
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Eykis
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04:21 PM on 03/10/2010
Repigs decided on Day One they were going to abuse the system to make Obama fail.


Repigs are NOT EQUALS, they are REPIGS.

End of story.
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Quitcherbichin
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05:34 PM on 03/10/2010
It is scary to note that, even though you are with class, you have 570 fans. I guess that proves the old saying that "misery loves company."
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Quitcherbichin
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05:36 PM on 03/10/2010
Oops...got ahead of myself..that should read "without"class.
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jmpurser
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03:18 PM on 03/10/2010
The Democrats "blocking health care reform" are mostly the ones SUPPORTING this bill.
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kimbutgar
03:16 PM on 03/10/2010
These politicians need to know who elected them and why. Not to represent corporate interests but "we the people"! Go get them unions!
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Tom95134
01:20 PM on 03/10/2010
Bart Stupak is the primary block to getting Health Care reform moved out of the House. If Labor is so upset at not getting Heath Care reform then why are they not making him a target NOW? He's a Congressman from MICHIGAN. It's time for Labor to flex their muscles in a State (Michigan) where Labor has traditionally been very active and strong in politics. Start to visit his local offices. How about a Labor delegation visiting his Office on Capital Hill? Stupak is putting his personal religious beliefs ahead of what it good for the vast majority of his countrymen. Let him know!
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carbolaw
05:08 PM on 03/10/2010
He is being challenged in the primaries. It will be interesting to see where labor puts their support.
11:37 AM on 03/10/2010
What happened to drug price negotiation, a central provider reimbursement negotiator, standardizing the basic insurance package, and honest discussion of single payer?

All of these would have done more to cut costs than anything in the President's plan and they wouldn't have entrenched the power of insurers the way mandates do.

Single payer would have done more to protect union jobs than any other legislation. The biggest thing unions are fighting for are benefits. If everyone in the country had better health care, unions could focus on other issues and the businesses in which their members are employed would be more competitive globally.

If insurance companies are so evil, why force me to buy their product?

And I don't believe the HHS will do anything to control insurers during the next Republican White House, nor do I expect much to be done under this one. It's not as if the Treasury and the Fed have done much to protect small investors on Wall Street.

More than anything this is about giving insurers new forced customers to replace all the Baby Boomers they're going to lose to Medicare.
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maserati2
Finally an honest politician! ELIZABETH WARREN!
10:20 PM on 03/12/2010
Thanks, Meko. fanned again.
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11:16 AM on 03/10/2010
Do these Unions really have the power in Dem Party that they once did? I guess this can be a test of it. SEIU is crippled beyone belief with Andy Stern running it, but as long as he can continue to collect 2% of the gross of members salaries and divert it for whatever he likes I guess the craven politicians will continue to listen, and take the money.
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02:51 PM on 03/10/2010
Union are powerful only in their own mind. Their numbers are declining, and now in single digits. The only unions that are prospering are in public sector where they are just added baggage as they already have civil service protections. Unions are dinosaurs. They are going extinct. They just don't know it yet.
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carbolaw
05:11 PM on 03/10/2010
Yes of course, because the working conditions for the American working class are so great - what with the 30 years of stagnating wages, the 1 in 4 jobs that pay less than a living wage with no benefits, the 10 years of declining wages, the 1 in 5 workers unable to find full time work, the cuts to OSHA, the DOL, and the EEOC, there clearly is no need for an organized body to look out for the needs of the American worker. After all if you feel you have been mistreated at work your friendly corporate paid HR manager is sure to be your advocate.
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Daveg000
10:39 AM on 03/10/2010
Republicans convinced their constituents that UNIONS, that fight for workers rights, wages, safety, and benefits are bad. Minimum wage is bad. Republicans fought Social Security and medicare. NOW, Health insurance for all, is bad.

The Unions are the ONLY force that have driven wages upward, and called out the Republicans on their ridiculous platforms of deregulation, trickle down, and unfair trade, for thew last 60 years.

Now they are going to have to call out the Democrats also.

As a victim of rising Insurance costs and benefit cuts - I'm behind the Unions 100%

Get rid of the Democrats that are blocking public option, or not actively supporting it.

Insurance companies PROVIDE NO HEALTH CARE.

They shuffle the papers, and charge 30% of 1/6 of our economy for doing it.

The cost for government run Healthcare paper shuffling is about 6%

Can anyone argue that?

Show me a government paper shuffler making tens of $millions a year

I am VERY DISAPOINTED that my Senators, Kohl and Feingold, even though they have supported the Public option, are not showing some solidarity and signing the public option reconcilliation letter.

Medicare for all!
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marijam
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12:10 PM on 03/10/2010
I agree in principle, but I reserve the right to continue to support those whom I wish to support, such as Kucinich.
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carbolaw
05:14 PM on 03/10/2010
I agree we cannot fail in our support of Kucinich. If there is one member of Congress that is truly on the side of the working class it is Dennis. I understand the concerns with him blocking HCR, but at least his reasoning is fair and is based on the needs of the majority of the people in the US and not to protect the corporate insurance companies. Had the Dems listened to him a year ago we would have a much stronger and more meaningful bill and it would have been passed months ago. We also would see that the support for the Dems in Congress would be much higher and Brown would have never won the Mass. Senate seat.
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JohnBryansFontaine
Liberal Democrat
10:29 AM on 03/10/2010
Regarding the FreedomWorks ad on this page: FreedomWorks was described in a January 27, 2010 article posted on Alternet as "the Wall Street front group that helped launch the Tea Party Movement"

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks
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larmarch5
12:14 PM on 03/10/2010
But clicking on it will cause them to have to pay HuffPo some money. They pay for clicks, not converts.
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Eykis
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04:23 PM on 03/10/2010
Larmarch, thanks, I clicked but did NOT sign petition. I have literally hated Dick Armey for most of my life.
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JohnBryansFontaine
Liberal Democrat
10:23 AM on 03/10/2010
Health Care for America Now

http://healthcareforamericanow.org/