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Health Care Opponents Demonize 'Deem And Pass' As The Media Gets It Wrong [UPDATE]

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First Posted: 05/16/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 04:50 PM ET

Another day in the health care reform debate brings with it another battle over parliamentary procedure, and another example of the media struggling to get some basic facts right. Today, the battle is joined over deeming resolutions, the process by which House Democrats may finally overcome hurdles and worries to get the process of passing reform moving forward.

The GOP has advanced the idea that the "deem and pass" process -- also known as "The Slaughter Rule" because the idea was suggested by Representative Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.) -- is tantamount to passing health care reform without voting on it. The media has largely accepted, or at least lent credence to this premise.

But does that sound right to you, Marc Ambinder?

...that's wrong. House Democrats aren't doing that.


In fact, they ARE taking an up or down vote on the Senate health care bill. They're just doing it AT THE SAME TIME as they're passing the reconciliation language, which countermands several controversial provisions.

Here's what's going on. The House is stuck having to basically pass the Senate health care bill, because the bill cannot be reconciled in conference committee. Why? Because it will be filibustered. However, House members are averse to doing anything that looks like they approve of the various side-deals that were made in the Senate -- like the so-called "Cornhusker Kickback." The House intends to remove those unpopular features in budget reconciliation, but if they pursue budget reconciliation on a standard legislative timeline -- where they pass the Senate bill outright first and then go back to pass a reconciliation package of fixes -- they'd still appear to be endorsing the sketchy side deals, and then the GOP would jump up and down on their heads.

Enter "deem and pass." Under this process, the House will simply skip to approving the reconciliation fixes, and "deem" the Senate bill to be passed. By doing it this way, the Democrats get the Senate bill passed while simultaneously coming out against the unpopular features of the same.

YES. All of this is basically motivated by concerns over perceptions and other such cosmetic bullshit. This is all about the House Democrats being scared out of their minds that they'll have to spend even an hour explaining, "No, we do not approve of the Cornhusker Kickback." But that's America, circa 2010. It makes the Democrats look timid, but it doesn't make them wrong.

This is now the third round of opposition that's been put before the media ever since the "Slaughter Rule" was first proposed. The first round featured Republicans going nuts about it, on the grounds that it was some sort of unprecedented legislative maneuver. Just like they said about budget reconciliation! Sadly, that doesn't bear up under scrutiny. As Ryan Grim reports, however, deeming resolutions are pretty darned precedented:

The first time that the chamber used what's known as a "deeming resolution" -- the mechanism Democrats are leaning toward using to pass the Senate health care bill through the House -- was March 16, 1933.


Then, as now, it involved a bill that had little support in the chamber among individual Democrats, but all of them knew they had to pass it. Very few Democrats want to vote for the Senate version of health care reform, but most are okay with it as long as it's amended through reconciliation.

Less than two weeks into FDR's first 100 days, Congress needed to raise its debt ceiling, a ritual vote that hasn't gotten any easier for the majority party in the intervening 77 years -- and is still political fodder for partisan opponents.

Instead of voting on the underlying Senate bill to raise the debt ceiling in 1933, the House voted on Resolution 63, which stated that "immediately upon the adoption of this resolution the bill H.R. 2820, with Senate amendments thereto, be, and the same hereby is, taken from the Speaker's table to the end that all Senate amendments be, and the same are hereby, agreed to."

More recently, Grim notes that deeming resolutions were used by Republicans "36 times in 2005 and 2006," and by Democrats "49 times in 2007 and 2008."

The second salvo from health care opponents arrived in the form of complaints that Louise Slaughter once opposed the use of her own "Slaughter Rule" on the grounds that it was unconstitutional. As Ezra Klein explains, that's true:

So today's furor is that Nancy Pelosi and Louise Slaughter joined Public Citizen in a lawsuit arguing that a bill that George W. Bush signed was invalid because Deem and Pass is unconstitutional. But the court ruled against Public Citizen, Pelosi and Slaughter. Deem and Pass, well, passed. And now Democrats are using it, too.

Of course, the fact that Slaughter learned that deeming resolutions were entirely above board is probably what informed her decision to employ a deeming resolution!

I don't think anyone captured the baseline of this ongoing back-and-forth raging over parliamentary procedures better than Matt Yglesias, who writes, "Everyone knows that 100 percent of the people who like the underlying health care bill will approve of the use of the procedural mechanisms necessary to enact it, whereas 100 percent of the process-objectors will also be people who don't like the bill." It stands to reason that if all the majorities were flipped and the GOP was about to use "Deem And Pass" to get something passed, they'd pull the trigger on it and never look back.

There's no doubt at all that this legislative obscuranta is confusing. But it's not impossible to explain, you just have to want to explain it. Unfortunately, the media is doing a terrible job at this task. Per Byron Tau, over at The New Republic:

But the way that some journalists are describing it, you'd think the House Democrats were willing a bill into law by magic. "House may try to pass Senate health-care bill without voting on it," blared a Washington Post headline. The Post's only explanation of the tactic came from Nancy Pelosi, who said, "It's more insider and process-oriented than most people want to know."


The Wall Street Journal editorial board went even further, beginning their editorial with a cutesy fairy tale setup:

We're not sure American schools teach civics any more, but once upon a time they taught that under the U.S. Constitution a bill had to pass both the House and Senate to become law. Until this week, that is, when Speaker Nancy Pelosi is moving to merely "deem" that the House has passed the Senate health-care bill and then send it to President Obama to sign anyway.

None of this is new! Does one side want health care and the other side not want health care and nobody wants to compromise? Yay! SHINY HORSE RACE FOR THE MEDIA TO COVER. Who cares if the contention that Nancy Pelosi wants to pass health care reform without a vote is a lie? To the political press, a lie is just an "interesting point of view."

UPDATE: Norm Ornstein weighs in: "Any veteran observer of Congress is used to the rampant hypocrisy over the use of parliamentary procedures that shifts totally from one side to the other as a majority moves to minority status, and vice versa. But I can't recall a level of feigned indignation nearly as great as what we are seeing now from congressional Republicans and their acolytes at the Wall Street Journal, and on blogs, talk radio, and cable news. It reached a ridiculous level of misinformation and disinformation over the use of reconciliation, and now threatens to top that level over the projected use of a self-executing rule by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi." More here.

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Another day in the health care reform debate brings with it another battle over parliamentary procedure, and another example of the media struggling to get some basic facts right. Today, the battle i...
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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
Katco
Misogyny: hard to spell, easy to practice
01:38 AM on 03/19/2010
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.

~H.L. Mencken
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shutterbabe
“We can't stop here, this is bat country!”
08:55 PM on 03/18/2010
I posted this quote early this morning and I know some of you have seen it. I think it is powerful enough to share twice:

My question to them is:
When is the right time?
If not now, when?
If not us, who?

- President Barack Obama, while urging Democrats to put healthcare
reform before their concerns about the mid-term elections. -
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Mekales
...and I mean what I don't say!
09:06 PM on 03/18/2010
Hey shutterbabe! How are you!
This is a great quote. If everyone would take a deep breath and remember this is phase one of many changes that will take place before the majority of this particular version of the bill kicks in (2014) - there will be many changes and tweeks to come.
Somthing new ALWAYS freaks some people out...
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shutterbabe
“We can't stop here, this is bat country!”
09:16 PM on 03/18/2010
Hello There, Mekales-

Good to hear from you!

I felt it was a notable quote, too. Very strong and uplifting. You are very right in your perceptions.
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enlightened45
10:07 AM on 03/18/2010
Why didn't the administration just fabricate some so-called facts and support them with later debunked data and pass this bill.....Maybe Obama should have taken some lessons from the ethically challenged past administration....that's the "right" way to push through Congress.....
09:36 AM on 03/18/2010
Actually, deeming resolutions are the ONLY sensible way to pass a bill from the other chamber, since the items in the bill which are being changed are the exact items no one wants to vote for. The only reason not to use a deeming resolution would be to announce to the opposing Party that you would like them to run a hypocritical campaign at the next election based upon a vote you had no intention of casting.

Why any bill in reconciliation would be voted on in any other way is a mystery. But I suppose Republicans just don't understand the process, since they found it useful only about 200-plus times from 1994 to 2006 for votes which raised the budget deficit by as much as 10 times the amount that this bill will reduce the deficit.
09:26 AM on 03/18/2010
If it's so wonderful, why are they so chicken to vote for it?
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Tommygun264
2Q2BSTR8
09:40 AM on 03/18/2010
And if pubs agree that health care reform is needed, why didn't do ANYTHING about it whenever they had the majority?
10:15 AM on 03/18/2010
Fair question. But it doesn't mean they should vote for a bad bill.
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sloreader
writ this down
01:47 PM on 03/18/2010
They just want to start over with nothing and bring nothing from there.... Pretty simple really.
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AyeChart
Retired Army, half-retired physician
09:24 AM on 03/18/2010
Maybe we could extend this "deem" process a bit. Maybe it actually has some "re-DEEMing" features.

How about if we allow people to just "deem" that they're divorced?

Perhaps I'll just "deem" myself to be Megan Fox's boyfriend!

That should work out just fine...
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rbchilds
In times of deceit, the truth will set you free
09:12 AM on 03/18/2010
As a small business owner, I am deeply concerned about this bill. The Senate version will force me to make a compromise that I should not have to make and is against what I deem responsible for my employees. I have a long history of hiring of single parents and this bill will force me to drop coverage for everyone. Why? Because of the liability it will impose on my business that I have no control over. I can not ask my employees what their family income is but the Senate version holds me accountable for that.
Health Care Reform needs to take place, but this bill is garbage.
09:26 AM on 03/18/2010
This is precisely why we have the unemployment rates we do.
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AyeChart
Retired Army, half-retired physician
09:53 AM on 03/18/2010
So losing control, losing the ability to make rational business decisions, could harm businesses and result in a worse economy and worsening unemployment? Really? Who would ever have thought?

Apparently Democrats are not thinking, for sure, fer shur, fer sher.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
08:46 AM on 03/18/2010
I can't wait to see what SarahCare will look like .....

Probably free witch doctors for everybody .....
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RBLRDR
Can I curse in this little box?
11:15 AM on 03/18/2010
You have to go to Canada?
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
08:28 AM on 03/18/2010
By the way, quite a few of these people look like the people in those Joe the Plumber rallies in Ohio last year.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
09:01 AM on 03/18/2010
They all look alike. Probably from inbreeding so many generations.
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sloreader
writ this down
01:44 PM on 03/18/2010
They were hand-picked from the cast of Deliverance.
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henrypapillon
Put a Psychiatrist in every NRA meeting.
08:26 AM on 03/18/2010
They get much less and we'll be able to memorize all the names and faces. "Oh , where's Herman, he didn't make it to this one."
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
07:51 AM on 03/18/2010
Whatever it takes to get it through is ok. Yet is seems that we deserve better representation - all we have are cowards who won't put their neck on the block to get a meaningful bill through, so they use a different approach.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
08:47 AM on 03/18/2010
we ALWAYS have cowards in Congress they'll never go away ....
09:29 AM on 03/18/2010
Whatever it takes will be threats and blackmail and if that's not possible, bribes, and buyoffs (with your money). That's ok with you?
Ends justify the means is the mantra of many a tyrant.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
10:26 AM on 03/18/2010
I thought the mantra was - 911, terrorist, terrorist, God bless America, freedom fries, lot it or leave it.
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ZappaFreak
In pedal-depressed panchromatic resonance...on tap
12:20 AM on 03/18/2010
Good gravy I hear little right handed fingernails being bit off all around me!

Run for the hills, pack the guns, grab the Bible...better health care is coming and it's going to ruin the entire country, make us all commies, force Texas to secede, and cause Michelle to slit her wrists!

Look out Chicken Little...the sky is about to FALL!

BOO!
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Katco
Misogyny: hard to spell, easy to practice
03:36 AM on 03/18/2010
"Noise proves nothing...often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she had laid an asteroid."

Mark Twain
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Katco
Misogyny: hard to spell, easy to practice
03:41 AM on 03/18/2010
In other words... let them squawk.
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Mekales
...and I mean what I don't say!
09:10 PM on 03/18/2010
Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!
Exactly what my posts above were saying!
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peacegurl48
09:32 PM on 03/17/2010
I look at these crowds and see people who probably need health care, and other "socialist services" ,as much as the rest of average America yet are so willing to believe the Orwellian spin of the far Right. Do these people believe that Corporate America is going to trickle something down to them other than more grief? Do you need to experience more than your credit card interest doubling or your home in foreclosure because you're ill or unemployed to see where you fit in? THE PEOPLE get no bailouts, no exemptions no loopholes and no empathy yet this movement supports politicians and media personalities who put the interests of their corporate masters before the American people.
I lost my home to foreclosure last year; the bank sold it for a profit; you know what I got? A friggin 1099 form as if I'd gained something by losing everything I owned. An employee of the Goldman Sachs-owned firm that took my home said "the government can't tell us what to do!" .
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sloreader
writ this down
11:35 PM on 03/17/2010
I agree with your observations about people blindly trusting corporations to do the right thing. A whole lot of people believe that anything that is good for business is always good for the rest of us. These "true believers" are not only naive, they are ignoring history and events unfolding around them as we speak. That said, the attitudes being expressed are not likely to change soon because what really makes this "movement" tick is fear of change and fear of retribution from their corporate masters.
09:31 AM on 03/18/2010
The reason that "trusting" corporations (the private sector) is better than trusting the government is that if you don't like what they're selling you can go elsewhere. Or if you don't like working there, you can go elsewhere. If enough people go elsewhere they fail.
When the govt controls it all, you have no choices. That's the end game here.
01:15 AM on 03/18/2010
I have no idea what you're talking about.

What is "corporate America"? I have individuals who have incorporated for tax purposes, small businesses, are they a part of this evil? Is government a part, whether or not a government agency is a corporation?

I feel bad your home was foreclosed, I have a friend in the business, I cannot do it myself, I'd rather see folks keeping their home, or arranging a foreclosure/leaseback, difficult to do if you're an investor and must make money, really need a charity or foundation here. Hard to cut a deal with the lender when things around are tough. I'm not a homeowner any more, will just rent unless things get much better.
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jjgg5
09:01 PM on 03/17/2010
The teabaggers think its "demon pass".
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Barbie and Ken forever
03:13 AM on 03/18/2010
Omg, don't be surprised if some lunatic GOP member will say that to spread it to the crazy teabaggers
09:31 AM on 03/18/2010
That's actually a very clever description!
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StJames
In absentia luci tenebrae vincunt
01:58 PM on 03/20/2010
Deem and pass is comparable to buying a house that needs a new roof on the contingency that the roof will be repaired before the contract is fully executed. Republicans have used it over 200 hundred times...Republicans are just trying to make it sound evil....The Representatives will all have to cast their vote, nothing will be hidden from the electorate...if you want to check how your representative voted you will be able to using your usual means.

While there is a lot not to like about this bill, health care reform is a necessity. Last week the head of AHIP said the current system is unsustainable. I've been telling people that for months now. Either reform it or watch as hospitals close, doctors close their practices etc.
08:52 PM on 03/17/2010
This is what passes for civil discourse among Teabaggers and their republiklan handlers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_PX5L_v_7I&feature=youtube_gdata

Notice how an infant is exposed to these bullies teabagging a person exercising his rights under the 1st ammendment...
09:33 AM on 03/18/2010
Thanks for the laugh--civil discourse!! Come on- I read y'all's posts.
As for an infant exposed to bullies, well, at least he got to be born.
12:46 PM on 03/18/2010
So you agree that this is perfectly acceptable republiklan behavior and that taking a baby along to watch the thuggery is just introducing him to the GOP's twisted brand of "family values"...