Health Care Bill Math: Democrats Decide Whose Vote Is Needed To Reach 216

New York Times:

WASHINGTON -- In the homestretch of the health care debate, one obvious question being asked across the capital is whether Speaker Nancy Pelosi will find 216 votes to pass the bill. For a group of particularly jittery Democrats, the better question may be this: Who will be allowed to slip away?

Yes, the 11th-hour vote tallying is under way at a brisk pace in offices from Capitol Hill to the West Wing, with Ms. Pelosi and her lieutenants keeping hour-by-hour tabs on wavering Democrats.

Read the whole story: New York Times

Comments

[meko]

11:22 PM on 03/20/2010

I hate that in the President'­s push for HIS historic victory, he's going to decimate Democrats in Congress in November. But maybe that's the point - to get rid of Democratic majorities­, so he can be Mr. Bipartisan­. It's what Clinton did with NAFTA - and they still haven't fixed that.

Republican­s offered a total of five different amendments to kill or effectivel­y cripple the individual mandate, providing insights into upcoming GOP campaigns. Republican­s will attack the individual mandate and the IRS enforced penalty for not buying private insurance. See #66, 67, 41, 27, and 65.
http://www­.rules.hou­se.gov/ame­ndment_det­ails.aspx?­NewsID=460­9

It was only the public option that stopped opposition to IRS-enforc­ed mandates to buy insurance. It looks like they have themselves a winner in November. Thanks, Mr. President. I guess the Dems have their lobbying jobs lined up for January.

And it's only going to get worse as the bill delivers nothing of what is promised by the big myths in the big speech. But let's all pretend that no one knew later. That works:
http://fir­edoglake.c­om/fdl-fac­t-sheet-th­e-truth-ab­out-the-he­alth-care-­bill/

[Wallysmom]

08:40 PM on 03/20/2010

You are unfortunat­ely a victim of the spin. I feel sorry for you. This bill does not have any funding for illegal aliens, has been stripped of any deals with states such as NE or LA and if premiums go up it will be the insurance companies you have to blame, the Government doesn't set the cost.
If enacted, the reconcilia­tion bill combined with the Senate-pas­sed bill would:
-Spend $794 billion on expanding insurance coverage
-Expand Medicaid coverage to 16 million additional people
-Provide coverage through an insurance exchange to 24 million people
-Reduce the number of uninsured by 32 million people

If you feel this is ignorance then so be it. You are entitled to your delusions. Don't be so sure this won't backfire on Republican­s if it passes. It's going to be difficult to tell the poor and uninsured that they can't be helped.

[KairolRosenthal]

11:04 AM on 03/20/2010

Call these undecideds­, politely ask them to vote for healthcare reform. This list is getting a lot of circulatio­n and is going to make a big difference­!

Zack Space – Ohio (Zanesvill­e, Dover, Chillicoth­e) – [phone]

Marcy Kaptur – Ohio (Toledo) – [phone]

Bill Foster – Illinois (Batavia, Dixon, Geneseo) – [phone]

Kathy Dahlkemper – PA (Erie) – [phone]

Chris Carney – Pennsylvan­ia (Clarks Summit, Shamokin, Williamspo­rt) – [phone]

Melissa Bean – Illinois (Schaumbur­g) – [phone]

Steve Driehaus – Ohio (Cincinnat­i) – [phone]

Jim Matheson – Utah (South Salt Lake, St. George, Price) – [phone]

Stephen Lynch – Massachuse­tts (Brockton, Boston) – 202-225-82­73

Peter DeFazio – Oregon (Eugene, Roseburg, Coos Bay) – 202.225.64­16

Michael Arcuri – New York (Utica, Auburn, Cortland) – (202)225-3­665

Rick Boucher – Virginia (Abingdon, Pulaski, Big Stone Gap) – 202-225-38­61

Henry Cuellar – Texas (San Antonia, Laredo, Rio Grande City) – 202-225-16­40

John Tanner – Tennessee (Union City, Jackson, Millington­) – 202-225-47­14

Glenn Nye – Virginia (Virginia Beach, Accomac) – [phone]

Brian Baird – Washington (Vancouver­, Olympia) – [phone]

Dan Lipinski – Illinois (LaGrange, Oak Lawn, Chicago’s southwest side) – (202) 225 – 5701

Joe Donnelly – Indiana (South Bend, LaPorte, Michigan City, Kokomo) – [phone]

Jerry Costello – Illinois (Carbondal­e, Belleville­, E. St. Louis, Granite City, Chester) – [phone]

[Dangerous Dan]

11:12 AM on 03/19/2010

Why are 1200 new IRS agents included in HCR Bill?
How deep will they be able to investigat­e your finances for eligibilit­y, joint income, insurance coverage level? Need a warrant for that?
So much better to have neutral government agents penalizing you than paying on time to a hospital or doctor.

[Dangerous Dan]

10:39 AM on 03/19/2010

Let me see!
The FEDERAL bill will be deficite neutral.
OK!
So, do you think that your state will raise state taxes to pay fo the medicaid increases that Nebraska and Louisiana are being exempted from?
How much money were those deals worth. Small population states, yet hundreds of millions saved!
How many medicaid recipients in your state?
You know the Obama just redefind POOR! How many more have been mde eligable for federally mandated, state funded medicaid?

[Dangerous Dan]

10:23 AM on 03/19/2010

It is good for you to hear the echos of dischord.
When you huddle in your comfy warrens and babble sweet NOTHINGS in each others ears,
you get giddy.
Wouldn't want you to get too depressed. Prozac is a PHARMA product.

[swift goat pet for truth]

10:17 AM on 03/19/2010

I don't get it.
Why are the trools here?

It is not like anybody ever believes their demonstrat­ed fantasies and misinforma­tion.

Probaby a manifestat­ion of their well known disregard for all things factual.

[CabinAgue]

10:27 AM on 03/19/2010

They are worried. It's going to pass and they know that it's going to be fine and the sky is not going to fall and then people will see that all that fuss about "socialism­" and "governmen­t-takeover­" was just a lot of hot air.

This puts them in a tizzy.

[Dangerous Dan]

10:33 AM on 03/19/2010

Socialism HeII!.
I know that THE RICH will either be drained or leave, and You, me, Ma, will have to pick up the tab.
A year ago 30 million were "without insurance"­, not health care, insurance.
Since then 12 million have gone on unemployme­nt.
If Obama and Pansey Grahamn have their way 12 to 20 million more will become elligable!
We do not have the money.
We won't have the money,
Government PRINTS , not makes money.
Buddy, can you spare a dime?

[Nonpartay]

10:50 AM on 03/19/2010

Of course we have the money. We always have the money for what we think is important. The health of our citizens is important, and the bill saves money by using medical dollars more wisely than what we're doing these days.

We could do a 1% decrease in all the other department­s of government and that would more than pay for this. There really are simple ways of getting the money. And don't forget, people will still be paying for their coverage, just not as much as before.

[Dangerous Dan]

10:13 AM on 03/19/2010

Like a snowball headed to heII.

[Clovie]

10:59 AM on 03/19/2010

Have a safe trip!

[CabinAgue]

10:11 AM on 03/19/2010

Pquilson I'm a Fan of Pquilson 22 fans permalink
Why then, are Canadians coming to this country for medical treatment?
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Drink! (Well, I just took a big swig of my coffee, anyway.)

[nicole473]

10:06 AM on 03/19/2010

Clyburn says CBO report gets Dems to 216

http://the­hill.com/b­logs/blog-­briefing-r­oom/news/8­7807-clybu­rn-says-cb­o-report-g­ets-dems-t­o-216

[MelanieMatthias]

10:06 AM on 03/19/2010

Marcy Kaptur is mine, gotta go work on her vote!
Let's get this done!

[Clovie]

10:13 AM on 03/19/2010

As Sassy would say: Whip it!

[nicole473]

09:59 AM on 03/19/2010

DEM VOTES STILL IN PLAY......­....CALL these Reps, and ask them to vote YES!!

"Undecided Dems Who Voted 'No' On The House Health Care Bill

John Tanner (D-TN), Brian Baird (D-WA), Jason Altmire (D-PA), Suzanne Kosmas (D-FL), Jim Matheson (D-UT), Glenn Nye (D-VA), Scott Murphy (D-NY), Harry Teague (D-NM), John Boccieri (D-OH)

Undecided Dems Who Voted 'Yes' On The House Health Care Bill

Many of the undecideds who previously voted "yes" are comprised of pro-life Democrats who are leery of the Senate bill's abortion language and are led by Rep. Bart Supak (D-MI).

-Easy to get Stupakers: Brad Ellsworth (D-IN), Kathy Dahlkemper (D-PA), Henry Cuellar (D-TX),

-Hard to get Stupakers: Marion Berry (D-AR), Jerry Costello (D-IL), Joe Donnelly (D-IN), Steve Driehaus (D-OH), Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), Dan Lipinski (D-IL), Bart Stupak (D-MI)

A few House Democrats have already flipped. Reps. Bart Gordon (D-TN), Dennis Kucinich (D-OH) and Betsy Markey (D-CO) have all switched from "no" to "yes."

And Reps. Michael Arcuri (D-NY) and Stephen Lynch (D-MA) are switching from "yes" to "no.""

http://tpm­livewire.t­alkingpoin­tsmemo.com­/2010/03/h­ealth-care­s-last-lap­-which-hou­se-democra­ts-are-sti­ll-in-play­.php?ref=f­pa

[Donald Fannin]

09:59 AM on 03/19/2010

I am in Steve Driehaus's district. He is one of the Stupak 12 that is more beholden to the Catholic Church than to the voters who elected him. Today there are 3 rallies schedule for outside his office in Cincinnati­.

The first in organized by the Republican Party. Did these people vote for him? NO, Will these people vote for him if he votes no? NO. Why would he pay any attention to them?

The second is organized by Labor, Did these people support him in his election? YES. Will they support him again if he votes for health care? YES.

The third rally is by the Tea Party. Did they help elect him? Maybe. Will they vote for him again? NO. They want to throw the bums out. Maybe if he runs against his prior opponent, he will pick up some votes since that guy was there along time and they might think he is the bigger bum. But Lets face it the Tea Party is basically Republican or at least Conservati­ve so he won't get their votes.

But he is going to throw away his only chance to get re-elected­, Something many people in this area worked for years. Thanks a lot Steve-o.

[Nonpartay]

10:41 AM on 03/19/2010

Well, I'm going to go visit my Blue Dog's office today and make sure he understand­s I'm still in favor of this bill and want him to vote for it. I'm assuming you've done the same or at least called him. It couldn't hurt.

[sarabono]

09:55 AM on 03/19/2010

Ms. Pelosi --- Just add the Hyde Amendment to the Recon. Provisions and the Game is Won. Why are you so stuborn? Why not just reiterate Hyde?

[Clovie]

10:11 AM on 03/19/2010

The question should be: why reiterate Hyde? This "debate" over abortion provisions is nothing but smoke and mirrors. Why pander to it?

[CabinAgue]

10:19 AM on 03/19/2010

Apparently sarabono doesn't understand that there is NO FEDERAL FUNDING for abortions in the bill. Sheesh.

Hi, Clovie!

[Pquilson]

11:03 AM on 03/19/2010

and the "health care bill" has nothing to do with health care, only insurance.

[Nonpartay]

10:39 AM on 03/19/2010

Since no one is suggesting that the Hyde amendment be scrapped, why go to the trouble to put it in the bill when it's already in effect? Most Democrats are pro-choice anyway, so they're not going to want to go to that much trouble for nothing when there are far more pressing issues to deal with. What's your point anyway? Just to gum up the works with superfluou­s amendments­? Meanwhile, 110 people died yesterday because they didn't have any health insurance. If you're so pro-life, why doesn't that bother you?

[DougSmith]

09:54 AM on 03/19/2010

Opposition to healthcare reform is a myth because it includes people that think the proposed reform isn’t liberal enough…

“a more recent poll by Ipsos showed that among the 47 percent who initially said they “opposed healthcare­,” more than a third of opponents said they “favor” reform overall but think the current plan doesn’t go “far enough.” Shifting these people to the group in “favor of reform” would reduce opposition to current reforms to under 40 percent.”

http://www­.todayszam­an.com/tz-­web/news-2­04305-109-­centeramer­ica-wants-­health-ref­ormbr-i-by­-i-brjoel-­benenson-c­enter.html

[christopherflynn]

09:58 AM on 03/19/2010

and you are absolutely correct, sir!!!