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ADP Employment Data March: Private Sector Sheds Jobs But Analysts Expected A Big Gain

TIM PARADIS   03/31/10 09:32 PM ET   AP

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ADP Employment Data Show Unexpected Private-Sector Job Losses In March

NEW YORK — The stock market is taking some ages-old advice to heart: everything in moderation.

Stocks on Wednesday ended a first quarter that many investors and analysts would describe as healthy. The Standard & Poor's 500 index is up 4.9 percent by amassing a string of steady gains that were far from the supersized jumps seen in 2009. The Dow Jones industrials are up 4.1 percent, but with unremarkable gains of 50 points here and 15 there. They've had few of the triple-digit swings that used to be commonplace.

The market's relative tranquility has made many analysts upbeat about the chances that its gains will hold. They say investors now have realistic, not overoptimistic, expectations. And the market has gotten used to the idea of a bumpy economic recovery, including the continuing struggles of the housing market. But analysts warn, for stocks to extend their January-March gains, investors will need to see employers hiring again.

Even then, the market is expected to take its time.

"Like any sprinter, at some point you've got to put your hands on your knees and take a deep breath," said John Lynch, chief market analyst at Evergreen Investments in Charlotte, N.C. "That's why we've seen these mild advances in recent weeks – consistent but mild."

A by-the-numbers look at the advance that some traders have called the "tortoise rally":

_ The Dow fell 51 points, or 0.5 percent, to 10,856.63 Wednesday but still posted its best first quarter since 1999. It has risen four straight quarters. It is approaching 11,000 for the first time in a year and a half. It's up 9.6 percent after falling to 9,908.39 on Feb. 8.

The quarter has padded the Dow's huge 2009 gain, putting the average 65.8 percent above the 12-year low of 6,547.05 it reached on March 9 of last year. However, it's still down 23.4 percent from its October 2007 peak of 14,164.53.

_ The broader S&P 500 index fell 3.84, or 0.3 percent, to 1,169.43 Wednesday but rose 4.9 percent for the first quarter and 5.4 percent including dividends. It's the index's best first-quarter since 1998. For the past 12 months, it's up 46.6 percent. S&P says the index is up about 53.6 percent when dividends are included.

_ The Nasdaq composite index fell 12.73, or 0.5 percent, to 2,397.96 Wednesday. It rose 5.7 percent for the quarter, largely on the strength of companies like Apple Inc., which rose 11.5 percent. Overall, the tech stocks that dominate the Nasdaq had a more modest quarter.

_ The top performer in the S&P 500 index during the first quarter was Zions Bancorp. It surged 70.2 percent.

_ The S&P stock with the biggest price drop was H&R Block Inc. The tax preparer fell 21.3 percent.

_ Industrial stocks had the biggest advance among S&P 500 segments. They rose 12.5 percent on expectations that growth in places like China will continue and that spending on everything from roads to equipment will pick up.

_ Financial stocks, which have led the market in the past year, rose 10.8 percent as banks repair their balance sheets and investors grow more hopeful that mortgage and other loan defaults will decline.

_ Telecommunications companies have been the worst performing segment of the S&P 500. Their stock prices have fallen 5.7 percent. These stocks are seen as safe plays in bad economies in part because they often carry big dividends. But they lose their appeal when the economy picks up.

_ Utility stocks, also known for paying hefty dividends, saw their shares fall 4.6 percent for the quarter.

Three months ago, the quarter looked like it might be difficult. Starting in early January, the Dow fell 5 percent in about five weeks and investors eared that the stock market's 2009 leap was another bubble about to pop.

Uncertainty about whether China would raise interest rates to keep its fast growth in check hit stocks early on. And questions about whether debt problems in Greece or policy changes in Washington would derail the market have periodically sent stocks skidding.

Investors are still cautious about the economy, especially as the government winds down some of the programs it implemented in 2008 and 2009 to help the economy. The Federal Reserve on Wednesday was ending a program to purchase mortgages. The plan was designed to hold down mortgage rates, which may now creep higher even as the housing market remains weak.

The immediate concern, however, is jobs. The Labor Department issues its March employment report on Friday. Economists expect the report to say that employers added jobs in March for only the second time since the recession began in December 2007.

"There is nothing more important than the labor numbers," said Jim O'Sullivan, chief economist at MF Global. He said if there is a gain for March it will need to continue to convince investors.

"The question is how much more improvement do you see in the next three or four months," O'Sullivan said.

Some analysts are cautious because of the market's own dynamics. They note that trading volume has been light because some traders are nervous about committing more money to stocks until the job market improves.

Barbara Marcin, manager at the Gabelli Blue Chip Value Fund in Rye, N.Y., said stocks are appropriately valued where they are and doesn't see much reason for further gains.

"You can't say it's a really good buy and yet we keep going up," she said.

A year ago, Marcin knew stocks had fallen too far and would eventually turn higher. Now, she's uncertain.

"I'm not sure what you're looking at 12 months from now."

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NEW YORK — The stock market is taking some ages-old advice to heart: everything in moderation. Stocks on Wednesday ended a first quarter that many investors and analysts would describe as healt...
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10:15 AM on 04/01/2010
Stock market is up today on signs of increased manufacturing and a beginning of a jobs turnaround. I wonder why we don't see anything about that on HP? Not sexy enough I guess.
12:44 AM on 04/01/2010
We can get this ship turned around. Here is the way.

1. Hold government spending to 1995 levels which means massive cuts in government;
2. Reduce corporate taxes to no higher than 20% to encourage business growth;
3. Cut Capital gains tax to encourage growth;
4. Get rid of the “death tax” to enable capital formation;
5. Drill for oil in USA (cheap power needed);
6. More coal mining and coal plants (cheap power needed);
7. Build nuclear plants (cheap power needed);
8. Reduce the EPA by 75% to cut needless costs and red tape;
9. Secure the borders of USA to protect freedom;
10. Keep our military strong to protect us from enemies;
11. Reduce personal income tax rates by extending the Bush tax cuts;
12. Forget about cap and trade;
13. Forget about government medicine;
14. Annual balanced budget amendment;
15. Government spending cannot exceed 15% of GDP;
16. Privatize Social Security (government is incompetent);
17. Eliminate waste in Medicare;
18. End all welfare programs (too much waste).
10:15 AM on 04/01/2010
The ship is turning around already.
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12:16 AM on 04/01/2010
ADP numbers are notoriously wrong !!! Relax until Friday's REAL numbers come in !!!
10:16 AM on 04/01/2010
Yes...
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
06:12 PM on 03/31/2010
There is a labor shortage in China and it's driving up wages. Hong Kong China is exporting more to mainland China. Also, Domestic retail sales are up in China, 15% in 2009 alone. All points to China starting to consume its own production, aka decoupling. Bad news for US. We're in for an inflationary depression, pushed there by our own government policies, record deficits, and easy Federal Reserve credit.
07:52 PM on 03/31/2010
Stagflation here we come. It's the 70's all over again.
06:09 PM on 03/31/2010
What's up with the headline? Private sector shedded jobs? I don't see anything in the story that mentions one thing about the data contained in the jobs report, except that it come out on Friday (4/2/10).
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07:04 PM on 03/31/2010
Shedded?

By the way still hoping to find out what cable company you use that offers MSNBC as a basic news program.
04:40 PM on 03/31/2010
Hey when can you ever take a corporations word for face value?

Maybe some people should start their own business like i am, check it out and follow me on twitter for support

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04:05 PM on 03/31/2010
One thing i dont like about "the new normal" is that feeling that *this is it*- this is what decline looks like.
It is particularly un-nerving to older workers who have been viewed suspiciously by employers for a few years now.
What jobs do come back, will go to those hungry young folk instead of hungry old folk.
Its gonna be tough for all of us- good luck and best wishes to you all.
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05:17 PM on 03/31/2010
Agreed, my friend. I’m afraid you’re right - this is the new “normal”. And yes, all factors considered, we are in a serious decline, in multiple ways. Of course, for those at the top, there is no decline. Our decline is their prosperity. In fact, they’re counting on it - sort of a giant, bargain basement economic distress fire sale of America. Everything and everyone in it is for sale - buyers’ market, of course.

And you’re right, this country is perversely geared toward youth, always with PROFIT in mind. Generally, older Americans increasingly do not fit into that equation. Often, they are not valued for their experience, knowledge and productivity, but are seen more as a liability. Always the tyranny of the bottom line, valuing certain segments of society as desirable and “profitable”, while de-valuing others as undesirable, hence, “unprofitable”.

Corporate America has made humanity itself a commodity.

That is serious moral and social decline - and it’s exactly what happens when money is more important than people.

Slavery thrived under such a philosophy.
04:02 PM on 03/31/2010
Traditionally, the Fed manages its inflation targets through increasing or decreasing unemployment (as a byproduct of raising or lowering interest rates). High unemployment yields low inflation and low unemployment yields higher inflation.

There are currently very high inflationary pressures due to the massive expansion of the money supply which was necessary to bail out the financial system. These are not employment related pressures since unemployment is already high. To make sure that inflation stays low, the Fed must ride a tightrope between high unemployment and high inflation, and with interest rates already at record low levels there is not much that can be done to lower unemployment (by stimulating the economy with lower interest rates).

Always keep in mind that the Fed's FIRST AND PRIMARY concern is with inflation and not with jobs.
03:42 PM on 03/31/2010
" Analysts expected a big gain" Which analysts ? The shills from the MSM sponsored by Korporate money. Every legitimate economist out there has predicted that there will be NO job recovery. Welcome to the future. Our economy will be like much of the Third World- 20-25 percent unemployment, a small wealthy class and a very large class of workers struggling for the crumbs left us by the elite ruling class.
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04:31 PM on 03/31/2010
Exactly. We’re already well on our way as a third world country. American companies (99%) have NO allegiance to the US or its workers. Their only loyalty is to PROFIT. They will troll the endless US unemployment lines just like they troll Bangladesh and Malaysia. We are nothing more than a global “resource”. Jobs will only return to the US when overseas wages* finally creep up higher than ours.

* Indian employers regularly increase wages to keep their employees from moving to higher-paid competitors.
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04:40 PM on 03/31/2010
Yep. This is why the stock market has been doing nothing but go up.
Eeeee- hah!
Its just a big party up there on Wall St.!
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02:43 PM on 03/31/2010
Simple solution if private industiry/multinational corporations will not create jobs and be socially resonsibile govenment creates jobs and be socially responsible. Start increasing corporate tax rates to 75% with credits for new hires and tax surcharges for polluters and enery wasters.
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03:49 PM on 03/31/2010
Attaboy, tax the heck out of the corporations and then when they go away because of it...how will your government jobs be funded? That scenario might happen with this administration and that is why there is very little hiring.
06:16 PM on 03/31/2010
Have you ever been anything but an employee? It might help if you reversed the roles so that you fully understood the role of an employer. They are different. It is all about profits because otherwise without profits they have to close the door and they YOU are out of a job and then join the ranks on the unemployment line.

BTW, when Obama decided to take away the tax benefit for the prescription drug program and also to eliminate the subsidy to banks for student loans, he single-handedly eliminated thousands of jobs. Actually 2,500 just for Sallie alone. You can argue the tax benefits all day long, and subsidies to banks, but in the end more jobs are lost. GONE. DONE. Thousands joining the long line of those without a job.

Oh, but instead we got temporary census workers that will artificially boost the jobs outlook.
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02:34 PM on 03/31/2010
Slave labor thats the trick then everyone will be employed! This is the only labor policy that the GOP wants to serve their corporate masters.
05:47 PM on 03/31/2010
When you started off with slave labor, I thought you were talking about the government tax rate here in America. However you veered into jobs that citizens freely took, and freely decided to keep.
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12:50 PM on 04/01/2010
"However you veered into jobs that citizens freely took, and freely decided to keep."

Now that brought a chuckle. "Freely" took and "decided" to keep? Don't make me laugh. This financial disaster and subsequent job losses are a direct result of baser human nature out of control, with the Alphas among us self-serving to the point of extinction.

What these Alphas never seem smart enough to calculate into their grand, rigged equations of entitled superiority is the inevitable backlash for the purposeful, greed-inspired undervaluation and repression of the other guy.
02:34 PM on 03/31/2010
Economist are surprised they are no better at knowing what's going to happen then me,I've predicted things that has been right on target in the last 3 years I've been on this site that have come true then so called economist,all they are are glorified actors nowadays grubbing for media exposure,they all think of themselves as self righteous prima donnas and think they know everything ,when in truth they no nothing at all,except getting to flap their big mouths and get paid lot's of $ for they useless blab.
04:32 PM on 03/31/2010
You are absolutely right. I listen to my own 78 year old mother talk about how it was a bad idea to close down so many of our factories and import the same goods from low-wage countries. This was actually what Alan Greenspan supported and called "Creative Destruction". Common sense has taken a back seat to academic theory.

If you really want to see the economic thinking that is driving central bank and governmental decision making, do a google search on "Modern Monetary Theory" (aka "MMT"). Here we see that deficit spending and government debt are GOOD for the economy while running a surplus or balanced budget is BAD for the economy.

Now consider that our federal government is projecting deficit spending going forward in excess of $1 trillion dollars per year (something like $1.5 Trillion in 2011) while our projected TOTAL FEDERAL INCOME TAX (personal) collection is just shy of $1.0 Trillion dollars. This means that if we wanted to balance our national budget without cutting spending - not pay down our debt but just collect in taxes what we spend - we would need to more than double our personal income tax.

Maybe the 2010 1040 tax form will have a new line under Line 32 "INITIAL INCOME TAX" that says:

"If the amount on Line 32 above (INITIAL INCOME TAX) is greater than zero, multiply the amount on Line 32 by 2.5 and enter that amount here. This is your TOTAL FEDERAL INCOME TAX."
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02:21 PM on 03/31/2010
The new iphone for verizon is to be produced in Taiwan. Obama admin. is handing Brazil 2 billion for oil exploration off their coast, but no provision for hiring U.S. companies or people in return for this financing. These are just two things I have picked up on in the last few days which could have been opportunities for U.S. job creation.
02:40 PM on 03/31/2010
The Export-Import Bank-Petrobras deal does not have a provision for hiring US people or companies, HOWEVER it DOES stipulate that the funds are for the purchase of US goods and services.

The Verizon iPhone is still a rumor, but how is it different than any other electronic device in the last decade? The fact is that we lack the manufacturing capacity to produce such a good.
01:59 PM on 03/31/2010
NUMMI plant closes April 1 in California. 4700 will lose their jobs tomorrow along with thousands of support and manufacturing jobs that support NUMMI. The carnage continues. No pun intended.
02:16 PM on 03/31/2010
A great story on that closing on NPR's This American Life.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/
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01:52 PM on 03/31/2010
Is there really any question whether these ubiquitous "analysts and economists" are part a mind control propaganda scheme? I mean, seriously. Do they ACTUALLY believe that people are taking any of their rosy projections to heart? Furthermore, why would we? We can see the future of globalism. Most of us are inherently gifted with the basic insight to see how such a scheme will ultimately play out. The only people pitching it are those who are gaining from it...which is a relatively small number while those suffering is a relatively HUGE number.
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03:15 PM on 03/31/2010
Exactly. Of course they're gonna downplay and spin all the bad news, while promising that the economy is slowly starting to "recover" (oh, yeah, where?). Yes, things are starting to look up! For who - the rich?

People, there will be no real recovery without JOBS. A "jobless" recovery is the worst kind of oxymoron. Translation: the rich are doing even better.