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US-Israel Row Over East Jerusalem Continues

MATTI FRIEDMAN   04/ 7/10 04:10 PM ET   AP

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JERUSALEM — Israel's prime minister acknowledged Wednesday that his government has yet to iron out its differences with the U.S. over Israeli construction in east Jerusalem, a dispute that has stalled American efforts to restart Mideast peace talks.

Benjamin Netanyahu said both countries are still working to find a solution but staunchly defended his government's contentious settlement plans in the disputed holy city, calling them a long-standing Israeli policy.

"There are things we agree on, things we don't agree on, things we are closing the gap on," Netanyahu said of his talks with Washington. "We are making an effort."

The worst crisis in U.S.-Israeli ties in years erupted last month when Israel announced plans to build 1,600 new homes for Jews in east Jerusalem during a visit by Vice President Joe Biden, drawing sharp condemnation from Washington and calls to cancel the construction.

The announcement also derailed U.S.-mediated indirect peace talks between the Israelis and Palestinians just before they were slated to start.

The Obama administration has pressured Israel to halt construction in Jewish neighborhoods in east Jerusalem, the section of the holy city Palestinians claim as the capital of a future state, and has also pushed for a broader building freeze in Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

In November, Netanyahu agreed to a 10-month freeze on most West Bank construction in order to get peace talks started, but refused to include east Jerusalem, which Israel annexed in 1967 and considers part of its capital.

Netanyahu on Tuesday dismissed talk of a crisis with Washington and accused the media of blowing the disagreement out of proportion – despite the tension in U.S.-Israeli ties.

"What is being published doesn't fit what we are talking about," he said. "Apparently the discussion between us is more serious and more to the point than what is generally believed."

The Palestinians, meanwhile, are wary of Netanyahu and his hawkish coalition partners, and have refused to resume direct negotiations until Israel halts all construction in the West Bank and east Jerusalem. The Palestinians claim those territories, along with the Gaza Strip, for their future state.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas did, however, agree last month to return to the negotiating table for indirect talks, only to back off after Israel announced the new construction plans in east Jerusalem.

Netanyahu, however, blamed the Palestinians for the delay in negotiations, saying the Palestinians "simply climbed up the tree on the first day (of talks) and said, 'We're not coming to negotiations, we're setting all kinds of conditions'".

He also said his government has taken steps to boost conditions in the West Bank, removing dozens of military checkpoints and roadblocks in the territory to help revive the Palestinian economy. He also endorsed the concept of Palestinian independence for the first time last year, although with conditions the Palestinians say are unacceptable.

Netanyahu, who leads the hard-line Likud Party, took office in March 2009 on pledges he would take a different approach to peacemaking than his predecessor, Ehud Olmert. The more dovish Olmert has said he offered a broad pullout from the West Bank and some Arab neighborhoods of Jerusalem to the Palestinians.

Peace talks broke down in the waning days of Olmert's term, after Israel launched a bruising military offensive in the Gaza Strip to halt rocket fire coming from the territory.

Also Wednesday, Israel expressed outrage after a report on Israeli TV showed that a street in the West Bank administrative center of Ramallah was named after Yehiya Ayyash, a master Hamas bombmaker blamed for attacks that killed hundreds of Israelis.

The Israeli statement called the decision "an outrageous glorification of terrorism by the Palestinian Authority." Ayyash was killed in 1996 in a blast assumed to have been set off by Israeli agents.

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jgarbuz
12:26 AM on 04/14/2010
Ireland too has a "right of return" law just like Israel's, Anyone of Irish descent can return to IReland and become a citizen and get work rights. Germany has a similar law. Israel's Right of Return law is not totally unique to ISrael. But the fact is, that the Council of the League of Nations in 1920 was the international organization that gave the Jewish people the right to return and resettle what it specifically called the "Jewish National Home." With all this prattle about Israel's alleged violations of international law, the fact is those prattlers don't know, or prefer not to know, the facts! Israel is the most legally reestablished country in the world. The restoration of occupied Jewish lands back to the Jewish nation-in-exile was the most just thing the international community has ever done with respect to the Jewish people whom they have abused and persecuted for 2,000 years since the Romans occupied Judea in 63 BC.
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Marlyn
Always wrong, but never in doubt.
07:22 PM on 04/08/2010
"What is being published doesn't fit what we are talking about," Netanyahu said.

Who believes him? ZERO CREDIBILITY!
03:31 PM on 04/08/2010
Why should Israel want a Palestinian state? Really they are taking the land bit by bit and taking the water. They will squeeze the Palestinians into little reservations. This is what Israel can and is doing. Now whatever sort of salami slicing you wanna do to justify whats going on is not going to change the facts. The strong take and the weak get blamed. Maybe I cant do anything to stop it but I can stop buying this fiction of Israel wanting peace. Peace? there are waging and winning a way of annexation in slow motion. Land to expand and grow, Water for crops and industry why the hell would they want to stop.
Now do we continue to accept the lie cause it means we can be best friends forever? Or do we start to deal with the facts..Strong vs weak ,Strong beating weak, Strong taking from weak.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
03:44 PM on 04/08/2010
Crushed.......and now fanned
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07:03 PM on 04/08/2010
The dream of a Greater Israel has never been abandoned-we've fooled ourselves into thinking so, and Israeli leaders see no need to correct. After all the talk of "existential" threats to Israel, we realize it was diversion from the reality that the existence of a true Palestinian nation will never be acceptable to the current Israeli govt.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
01:23 PM on 04/08/2010
President Obama:

I'm shocked to say this, but you should consider doing something like what Bush did.

For every dollar spent on building illegal settlements, one dollar should be deducted from the military aid, and one dollar from the cash aid.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
06:15 PM on 04/08/2010
or - for every dollar spent on settlements, end all military and financial aid immediately.
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
06:28 PM on 04/08/2010
I agree, but that's harder to sell.

Sadly.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
12:09 PM on 04/08/2010
here is a peaceful protest....SEE here what happens to unarmed civilian s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pl9fksjPpY
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
08:44 AM on 04/10/2010
Thanks Muck for that moving video of what appears to happen in Israel on a daily basis.

It reminds of the old segregations in the deep south, except much, much worse!
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CigarGod
What is your process?
11:34 AM on 04/08/2010
Israeli Journalist Under House Arrest for Exposing Illegal Assassinations

In Israel and the Occupied Territories, an Israeli journalist has been revealed to be under house arrest since December for allegedly leaking classified military documents on unlawful assassinations in the occupied West Bank. Twenty-three-year-old Anat Kam is accused of copying the documents and giving them to an Israeli newspaper during her time in the Israeli military. The documents reportedly detail how the Israeli army continued assassinating alleged Palestinian militants in violation of a court ruling declaring the killings illegal. Kam is set to go on trial later this month on charges of treason and espionage. An Israeli court has imposed a gag order barring media coverage of the case.
12:19 PM on 04/08/2010
Let's break this down to the heart of the story:

Military personnel leaks lots of classified military information.

Anat Kam broke the law. Punishment would be just.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
12:32 PM on 04/08/2010
LOL.
You left out the whole right ventricle of the "heart".
She leaked doc's proving IDF ignored the law on illegal hit teams.

She is a hero of humanity.
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Nwo2012
Sue me, I boycott products from the settlements
12:51 PM on 04/08/2010
Allegedly. Hes probably glad you're not in any jury.

Ps.

Murder of civilians isn't a state secret.
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12:48 PM on 04/08/2010
I nominate her for the Nobel Peace Prize.
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CigarGod
What is your process?
10:01 PM on 04/08/2010
Actually, if you have the proper credentials...and they aren't too terribly difficult, you can nominate her or just about anyone else you think is worthy of consideration.
I have done so.
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/process.html
11:25 AM on 04/08/2010
The creation of Israel was the worst mistake of the last century. For 50 years the American taxpayer has propped up this cancer on the middle east. Since the right wing Likud came to power there has been no chance for a reasonable settlement to this mess. It is long past the time to withdraw all support for this renegade regime.

What they are doing to the Palestinians is on the same level as what the Nazis perpetrated on the Jewish people. Neither was or is acceptable in a civilized society. Until the people of Israel recognize this, we should withdraw all support for it and break diplomatic relations. No Mas! No Mas!
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Marlyn
Always wrong, but never in doubt.
07:32 PM on 04/08/2010
"For 50 years the American taxpayer has propped up this cancer on the middle east."

Yes. Germany was the one who persecuted the Jews, so why wasn't part of Germany given to them instead of part of Palestine?

Oh I know, because the Jews WANTED the Holy Land for themselves.

Now it's the Israelis who are acting like Nazis. How ironic.
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08:37 PM on 04/08/2010
Yep - the Palestinians pay for the crimes committed by the Nazis and the US and Britain share a large responsibility for creating this injustice. The majority of Jews living in Israel are Ashkenazi (the last 4 letters of which spell...) who lived in Europe for centuries. The people they displace never left Palestine and have a far greater claim to it. There is a small segment of the Jewish population who have continuously inhabited the Middle East and they do indeed have some claim and right to land, but they are generally not the troublemakers that the European interlopers are.
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tallen
panem et circenses
10:46 PM on 04/13/2010
>>the Israelis who are acting like Nazis

You have a peculiar idea of what "nazis" are.

The Children brought to Israel are treated at the Wolfson Medical Center in Holon and hosted at the Children’s home in nearby Azor.

Since 1995, Save a Child's Heart (SACH) has treated more than 2,300 children suffering from congenital and rheumatic heart disease aging from infancy to 18 years of age from the “four corners of the Earth” - 37 countries where adequate medical care is unavailable.

40% of the children who underwent cardiac surgery are from Africa; 49% from the Palestinian Authority, Jordan & Iraq; 4% from Moldova, Russia and former USSR and 7% from China, Sri Lanka and Vietnam....
http://www.saveachildsheart.org/17-en/Sach.aspx
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11:02 AM on 04/08/2010
Netanyahu is Israel's Bush, Israel's Ahmadinejad....

When are Americans going to learn that the neo-reich Zionists are the problem. They do not want peace. They've had over 50 years to make peace.

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about the same chance that Israel will not steal more land and build more settlements, even at the displeasure of Washington...

"The most significant action Israel could take to demonstrate good faith would be a settlement freeze." - President Reagan 1983

... over and over Israel spits in America's face... under GWB's Roadmap to Peace and again today with the Obama administration ... it's clear that the right-wing extremist Zionist do not want peace!
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
11:45 AM on 04/08/2010
kkrimmer...you are so right....fanned...and in addition

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b42FJwydOCY&NR=1

Robert Fisk
02:23 PM on 04/08/2010
The ever wonderful RF.
12:08 PM on 04/08/2010
If they do not want peace how do you account for two peace treaties, one with Egypt and one with Jordon that have both been in place for decades?
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CJCalgirl
nothing breeds faster than stupid
01:00 PM on 04/08/2010
Shamed into by J. Carter, and Israels' peacemaker was assassinated by ISRAELIS. The rigid right wing Israelis have proven time and again that no Palestinian is safe. That no 2-state solution is acceptable. Forget their excuses, and look at what they do. They break their own treaties, attack U.S. ships, and wreak havoc in the middle east. They coerced Egypt into blocking aid into Gaza, and while Palestinians in Gaza were also using the tunnels for arms, I think they were justified. You cannot displace a half a million people and expect peace and tranquility. They want everything, and at the same time they deny it. They SAY they want peace, meanwhile they destroy 1000 yr. old olive trees, and displace thousands more. They ran a young American over with a bulldozer while she was trying to stop them from razing a palestinian home. They have become what they claim to detest most.
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
08:52 AM on 04/10/2010
That is easy: Israel never had any designs on the Sinai Peninsula whereas the prospects of peace with Egypt, the most populatin and influential Arab country held out many advantages.

Peace with Jordan involved the latter's renunciation of the West Bank. Jordan asked for nothing in return for peace.

The Israeli dream is to settle all of the West Bank, not Jordan, so that is why they may war on the civilians of the occupied territories and not Jordan.
10:13 AM on 04/08/2010
It would actually matter if the Israeli govt gave a rat's rear about the US and our security and well-being--they don't. They'd drop us in a second if this "alliance" weren't so profitable and they weren't able to manipulate our government so easily.
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StCuthbert
Anytime the mods are ready...
10:56 AM on 04/08/2010
The US would drop Israel if the alliance wasn't beneficial for us as well. Haven't we had this conversation before?
11:10 AM on 04/08/2010
No we haven't, and we're definitely not gonna have it now.
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
08:58 AM on 04/10/2010
Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt explained very clearly why the US is attached at the hip to Israel: The overwhelming power of the Israel lobby.

"the thrust of US policy in the region derives almost entirely from domestic politics, and especially the activities of the ‘Israel Lobby’. Other special-interest groups have managed to skew foreign policy, but no lobby has managed to divert it as far from what the national interest would suggest, while simultaneously convincing Americans that US interests and those of the other country – in this case, Israel – are essentially identical.

Since the October War in 1973, Washington has provided Israel with a level of support dwarfing that given to any other state."

Just check out this link to the topic's most thoroughly researched and most objective analysis. If you have not read at least a chapter from this book, you are REALLY MISSING OUT.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby
11:50 AM on 04/08/2010
sib....which is why they've been making furtive overtures to the Chinese.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
09:44 AM on 04/08/2010
Israel is ion violation of international law, including the very resolution (181) which created the state in the first place.

No country on earth accepts Israel's claim to all of Jersusalem. Every day they occupy east Jersulsalem is another crime. Every Arab family who's house they bulldoze is another victim.

Why are US taxpayers funding these extreme right wing fanatics and their murderous enterprises to the tune of billions per year?

When will us taxpayers demand an end to these incredible handouts for such a barabarous regime?
09:05 AM on 04/08/2010
Erin Burnett of CNBC just reported that giving financial aid to terrorist organizations IS LEGAL in Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and most other ME Arab nations!! Gee..glad we saved Kuwait from Iraq! And you lefty loons are worried about apartments in E. Jerusalem??
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09:30 AM on 04/08/2010
In the US, it is legal to give financial aid to Israel. Same difference.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
09:33 AM on 04/08/2010
Israel - a notable terrorist state, also gets Financial aid from the US. how can this be legal?

Oh right, if the aid giver - does not recognise the receiver as a "terrorist".

I cannot see how Hamas can be classified as "terrorist" when the Israeli Knesset is not. Most middle eastern countries do not classify Hamas as a "terrorist organisation" but as the legitamately ELECTED representatives, and military leaders of the Palestinian people. A people abused and murdered in their thousands by Jewish terrorists next door.
11:25 PM on 04/08/2010
You mean the Arab states who are still technically belligerent enemies of Israel (some of whom actively harbor Hamas terrorists) don't think of Hamas as a terrorist organization? Shocking, absolutely shocking.
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06:30 AM on 04/08/2010
. . . a Palestian state is the only viable solution. (Given that Israel is surrounded by Arab nations, surely one more won't matter.)
08:56 AM on 04/08/2010
One more TERRORIST STATE on its borders DOES matter...not to the Israel bashers...they'll jump for joy.....but for normal humans!
09:19 AM on 04/08/2010
go read the Goldstone Report and then come back and tell us who the terrorist is
09:50 AM on 04/08/2010
How peculiar it is that the TERRORIST STATE neighbours of Israel have made a peace offer which Israel has ignored for 8 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Peace_Initiative
04:08 PM on 04/08/2010
Couldn't one also make the argument that there are enough Arab states, including one with a Palestinian majority (Jordan), so making another one out of the territory of an existing state is unnecessary?
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
05:58 AM on 04/14/2010
"Couldn't one also make the argument that there are enough" idiotic comments on these boards without adding anohter?
06:13 AM on 04/08/2010
Israel/Palestine should be occupied by a permanent force of peacekeepers like Cyprus.
08:57 AM on 04/08/2010
So when are you and your family going over there to keep the peace?? How about this afternoon? I'll pay the one-way fare!!
09:11 AM on 04/08/2010
How many times I can fav. you, bannedingaza?
09:21 AM on 04/08/2010
Related to chaimschwartz are we?
10:41 AM on 04/08/2010
The Palestinians have actually been calling for international forces to protect them.
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SPQR1775
04:43 AM on 04/08/2010
As an AMERICAN and SOLDIER, I think the US should stop sending 100 billion in military aid and 3 billion in hard cash to ISRAEL. Why should be use our money to offer HAND OUT to a nation that work against OUR NATIONAL INTEREST and SECURITY? Time to end the ISRAELI BS!
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
07:55 AM on 04/08/2010
SPQR.....we all know the problem, but in order to stop it the USA must pass some kind of restriction to STOP all of the Israeli Firster/Corporation money goint to the CONGRESSMAN that the Majority elect... we all hear of this so called 3 billion given to Israel...that is only a small part of it as during the year our Congressman vote on resolutions to give a total on the average year some 17 billion extra in the form of weapons...Some 5900 tons of US weapons were just delivered to Israel end of January ...who are they going to use them on....I say Lebanon, others say Iran. but one thing is sure many are going to die soon.
08:58 AM on 04/08/2010
You mean like Iraq and Afghanistan?? They cost us over $100 BILLION a year!!
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Yank in France
Thomas Paine, expat in France 1792-1802
06:00 AM on 04/14/2010
That's right but at least in Iraq's case, we would never have invaded if it were not for Israel.

And I am sure you were one of the invasion's biggest supporters, regardless of what you say here today!
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jonjon66
12:58 AM on 04/08/2010
Netanyahu is playing with fire. The rest world is no longer buying it.
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muck-raker
give me liberty or give me death
07:57 AM on 04/08/2010
jonjon....Israel does not care what the world thinks. There is no way, so far, that the world has been able to rein in this rabid aparthied country.
09:01 AM on 04/08/2010
Apartheid societies don't have 20% of its citizens as Arabs like Israel does...and does not allow Arabs to sit in the Knessett (20% of its members are Arabs). The Arab society is the Apartheid society...NO JEWS in the P.A.....and no Jews can live peacefully in Arab towns like Ramallah and Nablus! Just wanted to clear this up ...WITH THE FACTS!!
09:39 AM on 04/08/2010
What worked for South Africa will work for Israel, only it won't take 35 years.

Awareness:
http://apartheidweek.org/

Action:
http://bdsmovement.net/

The Gaza blitzkrieg was Israel's Sharpeville Massacre - the event that turned global conscientious. The years of groundwork that has been done and seemed to be without effect, suddenly comes alive.

Since you like u tube MR - A pioneer from 1977:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvMoGAy7q9c

Some background:
http://thestruggle.org/redgrave.htm
http://tigermethod.blogspot.com/2009/08/redgraves-zionist-hoodlums-speech.html
http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2010/03/vanessa-redgraves-oscar-speech-back-in.html

And a recent 60 minutes segment on her:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yKQSMIrGQk
08:57 AM on 04/08/2010
Israel is an easy target and they know that. They used to that and do not give a fig what the rest of the world thinks.
The whole country is an Army. Well trained and patriotic Army.
09:32 AM on 04/08/2010
Which makes Israel a military state - how terribly democratic.
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Wisdo
semantics shamantics
09:36 AM on 04/08/2010
Like Germany in 1939.