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Supreme Court Nomination: Pressure Mounts To Avoid The Ivy League

First Posted: 06/13/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:10 PM ET

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This past Sunday, during the panel session on "Fox News Sunday", the Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol, a Harvard graduate and professor, urged the president with his next Supreme Court pick to stand up to a powerful interest: the Ivy League.

"I think it would be good to have a nominee that stood up against powerful interests like the elite law schools, which are a powerful interest in the U.S. and have done a lot of damage," Kristol said. "And I believe if Elena Kagan is nominated, which I expect, the Solicitor General, every person on the court will have gone to Ivy League law school."

This was surely not just a bit of self-deprecation on Kristol's part. Nor was it an attempt to sabotage Kagan's chances. After all, he went on to nearly endorse Kagan, saying that she was a "very respectable choice" with "impressive academic credentials."

Rather, Kristol's sentiment is part of a broader populist wave that has become a feature of recent Supreme Court nomination and confirmation battles. An Ivy League education or a career in the "judicial monastery" (see: U.S. Court of Appeals or the academic world) is considered as much a vice as a virtue. A humble origin with a non-traditional resume -- and certainly adding a bit of diversity to a bench that has been composed almost exclusively of white men -- is in vogue.

Supreme Court historians argue that the trend is fairly recent. Professor Lucas A. Powe Jr., at the University of Texas Law School, said it has only been evident in the last 30 years. And while it has become more commonplace, it also remains a bit perplexing -- not the least because presidents usually end up choosing the so-called academic and judicial elites whom they initially avoided. Since 1900, 31 of the 53 Supreme Court Justices appointed attended an Ivy League institution (either as an undergraduate or a post graduate) -- that includes Stevens's eight fellow justices.

It started most prominently with Richard Nixon, whose own personal insecurities made him naturally predisposed to the argument that the court would benefit from the inclusion of people of non-privileged upbringing.

"He didn't want an Ivy Leaguer," said David Yalof, a political science professor at the University of Connecticut. "He went to Duke and had a paranoia that Harvard people looked down at him. He surrounded himself with Ivy Leagues types... But he was very interested in his first term to name someone who wasn't an Ivy Leaguer. The irony, of course is that three of his four justices attended Harvard (Harry Blackmun, Lewis Powell, William Rehnquist). The only justice of the four who had no ties whatsoever was the Chief Justice Warren Burger, who went to the University of Minnesota at night as an undergrad."

(Burger also attended the St. Paul College of Law and graduated in 1931. The school is now known as William Mitchell College of Law).

Nixon was the most explicit of the presidents when it came to pushing for non-traditional appointments to the court. His philosophy, moreover, was far more anti-elite than his predecessors or successors. But he certainly wouldn't be the last. Reagan pledged to appoint a woman to the bench, only to quickly realize "how few women candidates there were of requisite age," as Powe puts it. "That is how he ended up with Sandra Day O'Connor (a Stanford grad who worked on the Arizona Court of Appeals)." Similar circumstances held true with Reagan's successor, George H.W. Bush, who felt acute pressure to appoint a minority to the court and settled on Clarence Thomas (Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit).

Bill Clinton, meanwhile, wanted a nominee with a ''big heart'' and real-world experience who would elicit a ''Wow!'' reaction from the nation. He also desperately wanted a politician for the post, turning to former New York Governor Mario Cuomo and Senate Majority Leader Greg Mitchell (also floating the names of Bruce Babbitt his interior secretary, and Richard Riley, his secretary of education). He ended up with two Ivy League graduates with judicial pedigrees: Ruth Bader Ginsburg -- Cornell (AB) Columbia (JD) Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit -- and Stephen Breyer -- Harvard Law, Judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the First Circuit.

George W. Bush thought it smart to take his Supreme Court vetter, Harriet Miers, and make her the nominee. Her education at Southern Methodist University was an alluring trait, but even more so was her philosophy on executive powers. But conservatives weren't comfortable with the choice. And in the end Bush settled on another Ivy League graduate with a judicial pedigree: Justice Samuel Alito (Princeton BA, Yale Law, United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit)

Why Nixon, Clinton, and the latter Bush all moved away from their court-nomination philosophies, is explained by a wide range of factors, including coincidence. Jeffrey Toobin, the legal writer and opiner for the New Yorker and CNN, suggested that the heavy Ivy League composition of the current court is owed to the fact that the Appeals Court circuit has become a launching pad for nominees.

"The federal Appeals Court have traditionally been oriented towards people of specific legal achievement, which starts, generally with a good law school," he said.

Why presidents have looked to the Appeals Court for replacement picks, meanwhile, is owed primarily to political expediency. "I think what is very important is that recent presidents have been concerned about having too much of a paper trail," said David Atkinson, author of "Leaving the Bench: Supreme Court Justices at the End." "The nomination of Robert Bork comes to mind."

The logic, in the end, is inverted. While it makes sense that a senator or an administration official will have an easy confirmation because they have been either confirmed by the Senate already or are on friendly terms with senators, they also represent a bit of a gamble, owing to the myriad votes or public statements from their earlier careers. What ends up happening, in the end, is the president makes the easy, if not logical choice -- going with the nominee who is stellar on paper but short on the paper trail.

All of which leads up to Obama's pending choice to replace Stevens. While Kristol may already be bemoaning the possibility of another Ivy Leaguer on the court, the betting money is that such a person will end up there regardless. Kagan, after all, has emerged as the frontrunner. Another choice, Merrick Garland, went to Harvard undergrad and law school; Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the U.S. state of Georgia, Leah Ward Sears, is a graduate of Cornell; Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm went to Harvard Law too, and Harvard Law Professor Martha Minow got her masters at Harvard before going to Yale for her law degree. The only short-listers who satisfy Kristol's demand are Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Judge Diane Wood.

"It is odd that every remaining Justice on the Supreme Court went to Harvard or Yale Law School," remarked Toobin. "And it may well be that this factors in. But I don't think it will stop [the White House] from appointing someone in the end."

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This past Sunday, during the panel session on "Fox News Sunday", the Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol, a Harvard graduate and professor, urged the president with his next Supreme Court pick to stand up ...
This past Sunday, during the panel session on "Fox News Sunday", the Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol, a Harvard graduate and professor, urged the president with his next Supreme Court pick to stand up ...
 
 
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paganmist 11:24 AM on 04/14/2010
Okay, look.

I could have gone to an Ivy League school, by using loans and scholarships and grants, the way many people have done.

But I didn't have the dedication or the drive. I didn't want to spend all of my time working harder than average. I didn't have the self-discipline. I didn't have the wherewithal to research all the possible sources of funding, or make a 5 or 10 year  Read More...
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ancatdubh
02:02 PM on 04/15/2010
Sure, let's get a Justice with a certificate in medical billing from DeVry University. For the sake of diversity, you know.
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never moon a werewolf
10:50 AM on 04/15/2010
I understand that Obama is considering a female graduate from the U of Idaho.
04:03 AM on 04/15/2010
Sheila Colleen Bair, the Chairwoman of the FDIC. The woman has good sense and a backbone.
12:34 AM on 04/15/2010
I did not think that Roberts, Scalia, Alito or Thomas even went to college.
11:21 PM on 04/14/2010
Unlikely to happen...the U.S. pecking order has become increasingly ossified. Given that the U.S. has not made any significant strides in judicial selection vis a vis our Western counterparts in many, many years, it will continue to be a race to the middle with the lowest common denominator being an inside the Beltway set of bona fides.
10:14 PM on 04/14/2010
Utter stupidity. Why avoid picking an Ivy league graduate? It makes no sense.
Anyway, we should be proud of the academic institutions in this country.
They're remarkable, not elitist. The envy of the world. Higher education is
something we should respect and extol. It's time to stop giving so much time
and space to morons like Palin and Kristo;.
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ancatdubh
02:05 PM on 04/15/2010
Our outstanding colleges and universities are the achilles heal of Republicans. They know that knowledge is power, and knowledge does not work in their favor. That's why Fox News was invented.
08:36 PM on 04/14/2010
It's amazing that Bill Kristol still has a voice on any subject but here I agree with him, Ivy League Cornell was a fluke. Obama should look at the ACC for his SC nomination. The WH needs a good point guard who can go left.
09:34 PM on 04/14/2010
How about someone from one of the Normal Colleges
in Michigan with no legal training. Say, Michigan Normal?
or maybe Weebelow Normal?
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
07:25 PM on 04/14/2010
You know, one would think that the idea would be to find the best qualified candidate for the position, rather than to worry about their diversity. At least that's what I always hear rightwingnuttia screaming for, when you tell them that diversity in the workforce is a good idea. All on a sudden, they're all, "Oh, noes! We must haz teh diversiteee!" Mighty suspicious.
03:04 PM on 04/14/2010
"The federal Appeals Court have traditionally been oriented towards people of specific legal achievement, which starts, generally with a good law school," he said.

Ah, the old assumption that ivy league schools are automatically good schools and the rest have to struggle to keep up. The legal achievement required to get into one is a GPA (not legal), an LSAT score (not legal), and money.

Sounds good to me.
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thepoliticalcat
Eradicate your microbioflora
07:21 PM on 04/14/2010
While you're quite correct in that being a member of the Ivy League does not automatically make a school good, the fact is that the Ivy League colleges are precisely where a student wishing to make a serious career of the law would go. The alternative, of course, is to put, I don't know, a community organizer? on the Supreme Court, and I'm sure that fanged, pois0n0us, and inaccurate little h@ck Kristol (who only has a job because his daddy bought him one) would spit his innards out if that happened.
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BocaMom
02:55 PM on 04/14/2010
Pick Hillary Clinton for the Supreme Court! She's smart, she's liberal and this way she won't run against in Obama in 2012.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
02:40 PM on 04/14/2010
Maybe we should get somebody with common sense .....
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seereene1
More genius in a cracked pot than a whole one.
04:41 PM on 04/14/2010
One persons common sense is another persons abject insanity. Common sense is a relative term that means absolutely nothing more than what the speaker wants it to mean. We should get someone for the job with the best legal training and experience available. This anti-intellectualism is nonsense.
09:25 AM on 04/15/2010
Like Sarah Palin? Sure would get her off the front page of every news paper...Clever? Make her the Supreme Court Justices problem. Think the Republicans would filibuster her nomination?
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Guitar63
01:34 PM on 04/14/2010
Perhaps for once I agree with FOX. It would be a nice change of pace to get a graduate from a non-ivy. Don't get me wrong, I think that Ivy league schools are great, but adding some more diversity/perspective would certainly help!
01:18 PM on 04/14/2010
Since Bush Sr., all of our presidents have attended an Ivy League school at one point or another. That is definitely a good enough reason for me to never vote for an Ivy Leaguer again. Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr. and now Obama. Prior to that we had Ford, Kennedy and FDR, all of them big government progressives. Haven't we had enough already? And another observation, both Bush Jr. and Kerry were members of Skull and Bones. How much difference do you think there was in their thought patterns? Never again will I vote for an Ivy Leaguer and the president should not appoint anymore to the Supreme Court.
01:54 PM on 04/14/2010
I prefer big government progressives to voodoo economics worshipers any day. Our economic mess was caused by their deregulation (lawlessness) and lack of regulation enforcement (lawlessness). Besides, I like highways, the Coast Guard, National Parks, clean air and water, Social Security, protection from invasion and all those other big government ideas.
02:05 PM on 04/14/2010
I like all those things too. But, look at the record. Bush Jr. actually tried to rein in the financial companies, Fannie and Freddie. Who fought it? Barney Frank. It was Barney Frank that fought against some form of regulation of the financial industry. Bush tried, Barney lied and we as a country died, a bit more. Thank you Barney.

P.S. Protection from invasion is not a big government idea. It is one of the limited powers given to the federal government by the Constitution. And it is one that the "big government" types seem to put on the back burner.
01:04 PM on 04/14/2010
He's right that an Ivy league education does not guarantee smart, or honest, or the best judgement (Our financial meltdown and GWB both examples of that), but I think the underlying conservative message is that being smart is elitist, the message that got GWB to the White House and Quitter Palin to the Vice Presidential nomination and into the hearts of the teabaggers. Smart is elitist and out of touch, dumb is common sense and "one of the people". Scary.
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juhar
01:17 PM on 04/14/2010
You are absolutely right. Now is not the time for Obama to dummy down - leave that the Republicans, please. Intelligence and educational accomplishments are the only thing being considered. Everyone leaves enough markers indicating what type of person they are and how they will most probably act in the future.
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seereene1
More genius in a cracked pot than a whole one.
04:44 PM on 04/14/2010
Here! Here! Common sense folk values often lead the common folk up a crick!
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hulagirrrl
12:47 PM on 04/14/2010
I think he is on to something. Considering what Ivy league banksters did to this country, maybe there is time to look at this issue.