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CIA Waterboarding Video Destroyed: Porter Goss Agreed With Decision To Destroy Interrogation Tapes

MATT APUZZO and ADAM GOLDMAN   04/16/10 07:43 AM ET   AP

Cia Video Tape Destroyed

WASHINGTON — Internal CIA e-mails show the former agency head, Porter Goss, agreed with a top aide's 2005 decision to destroy videotapes of the harsh interrogation of a terror suspect, a controversial action that remains the focus of an FBI investigation.

The documents show that, despite Goss' apparent agreement, CIA officials almost immediately began worrying they'd done something wrong. The e-mails also indicate that President George W. Bush's White House counsel, Harriet Miers, hadn't been informed of the tapes' destruction and was "livid" to find out later.

The videos showed CIA interrogators using waterboarding, a simulated drowning technique that's widely considered torture, on terrorism suspect Abu Zubaydah. The videos showed that interrogators did not follow the waterboarding procedures authorized by the Bush administration, the documents indicate.

Jose Rodriguez, the agency's top clandestine officer, worried the 92 tapes would be "devastating" to the CIA if they ever surfaced, the documents show. He approved the destruction of the tapes.

Rodriguez told Goss and others he "felt it was extremely important to destroy the tapes and that if there was any heat, he would take it," according to a November 2005 e-mail.

Goss, according to the e-mail, laughed and said he'd be the one to take the heat.

The e-mail then states: "PG, however, agreed with the decision."

The author's name is blacked out. The e-mail amounts to an after-the-fact summary and does not prove that Goss approved destroying the tapes. Current and former intelligence officials have said he did not, and was angry to find out about it.

Rodriguez's lawyer has disputed that and Goss has not discussed the matter publicly.

The e-mails, released late Thursday by the Justice Department under a Freedom of Information Act request by the American Civil Liberties Union, showed that Bush's top lawyer, Miers, and her CIA counterpart, John Rizzo, didn't find out the tapes were destroyed until two days later and were both angry.

"Rizzo is clearly upset because he was on the hook to notify Harriet Miers of the status of the tapes because it was she who had asked to be advised before any action was taken," reads a November 2005 e-mail from an unidentified CIA officer to the agency's No. 3 official, Kyle "Dusty" Foggo. "Apparently, Rizzo called Harriet this afternoon and she was livid."

Miers' predecessor, Alberto Gonzales, and Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, David Addington, had told CIA lawyers in 2004 not to destroy the tapes.

A year later, Rodriguez sent a memo approving the destruction, saying the agency had no legal requirement to keep the tapes.

It's unclear who told Rodriguez that, but a subsequent e-mail suggest that either someone lied to Rodriguez or that Rodriguez lied about having received approval.

The e-mail correctly predicts: "Rizzo does not think this is likely to just go away."

Years later, prosecutor John Durham is still investigating whether any crime was committed.

"These documents provide further evidence that senior CIA officials were willing to risk being prosecuted for obstruction of justice in order to avoid being prosecuted for torture," ACLU lawyer Ben Wizner said. "If the Department of Justice fails to hold these officials accountable, they will have succeeded in their cover-up."

CIA spokesman George Little said the agency continues to cooperate with that investigation.

"We hope that this issue is resolved soon," Little said.

The tapes were destroyed in Thailand. The agency's former top officer there has not responded to repeated messages seeking comment.

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WASHINGTON — Internal CIA e-mails show the former agency head, Porter Goss, agreed with a top aide's 2005 decision to destroy videotapes of the harsh interrogation of a terror suspect, a controv...
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03:22 AM on 06/07/2010
From MOTHER JONES:

http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/06/bush-administration-experimented-detainees-phr-report

"In the course of trying to prove that its "enhanced" interrogation program was legal, the Bush administration may have broken the law, according to a new report (PDF) by Physicians for Human Rights. The watchdog group claims that in an attempt to establish that brutal interrogation tactics did not constitute torture, the administration ended up effectively experimenting on terrorism detainees. This research, PHR alleges, violated an array of regulations and treaties, including international guidelines on human testing put in place after the Holocaust."

Yoo and Bybee and other DOJ attorneys who wrote the stilted opinions knew that this was going on and helped legitimize it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/us/politics/20justice.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/murray-waas/pressure-increases-on-tor_b_197764.html

http://www.nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2006/0209nj1.htm
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guveqzero
Inventor and Innovator
11:44 AM on 04/19/2010
At least we now know that Miers was not fully incompetent as a lawyer. Destroying evidence is the quickest way to get kicked out of the lawyers club.
tamazul
Badges? What Badges?
11:41 AM on 04/19/2010
Likely story.
The question that should be asked of Harriet Meirs,...UNDER OATH ,is:
"What did she know, and when did she know it?"
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ohiotechie
Better dead than red...
07:35 AM on 04/19/2010
The fact that they felt compelled to destroy these tapes should tell anyone everything they need to know about this subject.

I am still aghast that we, in the USA, have to "debate" the use of torture as somehow being necessary and/or effective. We prosecuted and convicted Japanese officers from WWII as war criminals for employing this very same technique so there should be no debate needed.

This issue more than any other exemplifies the tarnish the Bush gang put on our country. While I know that abuse has happened in every war committed by every side, until now it was never official policy.

Everyone connected to this needs to go to jail for a long, long time. All the way up to W and Darth Cheney.
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01:06 AM on 04/19/2010
He wanted to make copies for xmas presents.
11:20 PM on 04/18/2010
I do not believe that Meyers was livid or that Cheney said not to destroy the tapes. That does not make sense knowing what their positions were and are on such matters. If anyone believes that baloney they should get the stupid of the year award.
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:00 AM on 04/19/2010
Can't CIA agents use any common sense? After deciding to do something naughty, they sure surely realize that they should either not tape it or quickly erase it, without having to ask their director, the office of the VP and the White House counsel.
03:59 PM on 04/18/2010
Livid my A@@.

Did he resign?

No.

Did he go Public?

No.

It's a little late to be coming to Jesus now doncha think?
04:02 PM on 04/18/2010
OOPS.

Make that "he" "she".
09:07 PM on 04/18/2010
Any attorney would be livid for very good reason:
The moving party's (here, Zubaydah's) version of events could be accepted as fact by a judge as a sanction against the other party (the CIA), for having destroyed the evidence.
01:44 PM on 04/18/2010
Couldn't the tapes be simulated using Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, Rove, and Beck as waterboardees?
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01:16 PM on 04/18/2010
LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! LOL! just how LIVID? ROFL! ROFL! LMAOF! especially when we have been told over and over again " AMERICA DOES NOT TORTURE!" LOL! LOL! remember that one?
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BUSTERtheCAT
SNL owes me MONEY
10:47 PM on 04/17/2010
what if the tapes showed how wasterboarding work so well, how they got actionable INTEL that saved American lives...isnt that what they showed?
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gschear
Buhbye D. Rehberg, Sincerly, Bozeman MT
08:37 AM on 04/18/2010
Then why did they destroy them?
You people fail to comprehend that by becoming a nation that advocates torture we have become what our enemies say we are.
What is wrong with you?
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gschear
Buhbye D. Rehberg, Sincerly, Bozeman MT
08:41 AM on 04/18/2010
Buster. i apologize for my previous reply. I realized i read your post wrong. Sorry for the friendly fire.
09:28 PM on 04/17/2010
Someone I'm sure has them in a personal collection.

The tapes will pop up sooner or later.
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OliverTwist
Contrarian advocate for truth and justice
09:11 PM on 04/17/2010
"WASHINGTON — Internal CIA e-mails show the former agency head, Porter Goss, agreed with a top aide's 2005 decision to destroy videotapes of the harsh interrogation of a terror suspect, a controversial action that remains the focus of an FBI investigation."

The FBI investigation will probably wrap up just about the time when the statute of limitations expires on the crimes involved.

The FBI is part of the problem.
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RRK70
12:37 PM on 04/17/2010
So Alberto Gonzales conveniently "forgot" any questionable activity or conduct, but clearly recalls instructing them to not destroy the tapes. Selective amnesia is so convenient! He made a mockery of the justice system and the fact that he is a free man today is only evidence that there is little accountability in Washington.

Let us not forget that "Dusty" Foggo character is a convicted felon who committed fraud, money laundering and conspiracy while being #3 at the CIA.

Sadly many more should have been tried and convicted from the activity that was going on in Washington from 2000-2008
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onegandolf1
12:26 PM on 04/17/2010
When it comes to the alleged misdeeds of The bush Administration I am in full agreement with the FBI guy in National Treasure when he said "Some one's got to go to jail". I wonder when we can expect that to begin !
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maslin
At 6 bn km, it's mostly small stuff.
12:21 PM on 04/17/2010
Harriet Miers just got mildly rehabilitated. I'm glad she was livid. That's the appropriate response. Here's hoping we see some trials.