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NATO Troops Open Fire On Vehicle, Kill 4 Unarmed Afghans


First Posted: 06/20/10 06:12 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:15 PM ET

NATO troops kill four unarmed Afghans. NATO troops shot at a vehicle, killing four unarmed Afghan civilians in Khost province, reports Reuters. The civilians were killed as they accelerated in the direction of a NATO convoy and ignored warnings to slow down. While NATO's official statement described the dead as two insurgents and two "associates," a NATO spokesman conceded that the four may have been civilians. This shooting follows another similar incident last week in Kandahar in which NATO forces opened fire on a bus. Four civilians died while 18 were injured as a result. The U.N.'s envoy to Afghanistan, Staffan de Mistura, called the latest incident part of a "disturbing trend."

Afghanistan's "doomed generation." A study by the State Department has found that Afghan children are exposed to high levels of opium and heroin, which has lead to rarely seen levels of drug addiction among children. Some of these children were said to be as young as 14 months.

"These children are classic opium or heroin addicts. They crave the drug," a researcher told ABC News. The study, which tested heroin and opium levels in children belonging to households where drug addicts live, looked at 42 homes homes and found that children in 31 of those homes had "significant drug exposure." In 2005, it was estimated that there were 900,000 drug addicts in Afghanistan. According to NPR, a U.N. study published in April found that 1 in 12 Afghans abuse drugs, a number that indicates an appallingly high number of Afghan children are exposed to, and are at risk for, drug addiction. The chronic drug exposure is creating a "doomed generation" of children in Afghanistan, said one researcher.

McChrystal's COIN headed for failure. In the spring issue of World Policy Journal, Michael Cohen argues that the "warm and fuzzy" counterinsurgency (COIN) doctrine touted by NATO's Gen. Stanley McChrystal ignores history and is bound to fail. Cohen's is a dissenting voice in a growing chorus--joined by both progressive and conservative policy circles in the U.S.--that believes in the effectiveness of a more humane war effort in Afghanistan. But McChrystal's COIN strategy rests on the assumption that a reliable local partner exists, and since, in Cohen's view, Afghanistan lacks such leadership, he argues that the U.S. and NATO are likely headed for failure.

Correction -- In an earlier version of the entry above, "McChrystal's COIN headed for failure," it was reported that Mr. Cohen's article "points to Sri Lanka's war against the Tamil Tigers as a better model for the U.S. in Afghanistan." However, Mr. Cohen makes no such argument in his article. Instead he wrote: "So, would the United States be better served by adopting a Sri Lankan-style approach to waging the Afghanistan counter-insurgency? Not at all." We apologize for the error.

For suicide attack plotter, path to militancy began at madrassa. The Associated Press was able to interview a potential suicide bomber and his trainer in a Lahore prison, bringing to light what motivates militants and how closely the insurgency in Afghanistan is tied to militancy in Pakistan. Abdul Baseer, the trainer, and a 14-year-old would-be suicide bomber were arrested before they could blow up a luxury hotel in Lahore, where they had hoped to kill Americans. Baseer's story begins in a poor household in Swat and leads him to Pakistan's infamous madrassas (religious schools), where he "became aware that this is the time for jihad and fighting the infidels." He traveled to Afghanistan, received training, and claimed to have attacked U.S. troops while there. "I was happy to be in place where I could kill unbelievers," he told the AP.

Karzai viewed more favorably back home. While Karzai has been portrayed as corrupt and crazy (and has even been called a drug addict) in the Western media, the view of the Afghan president in his home country is more favorable, writes Asma Nemati in Foreign Policy. To some Afghans, Karzai's recent anti-Western outburst is a sign that the president is finally waking up.

They agree that the U.S. and the international community are interfering too much in Afghan politics. There are rumors, for instance, "that members of the IEC were threatened by [a] U.S. official to 'dig their own graves' if Karzai was to be reelected in the runoffs." And many Afghans concur with Karzai's claim that the international community is also largely to blame for the corruption that has flourished since the fall of the Taliban. But Afghans also believe that a public brawl between Karzai and the U.S. does no one good, and may not end well for Karzai--some "won't be surprised to see him assassinated."

Deputy mayor of Kandahar killed. The deputy mayor of Kandahar, Azizullah Yarmal, was killed late on Monday night while he prayed in a mosque, reports the New York Times. The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack, describing the city's "most effective and admired public official" as a "puppet." The assassination is the latest in a series of attacks by Taliban militants in Kandahar, a city that was once the capital of the Taliban and is now the base of the insurgency. A number of people the Times spoke to believed that Yarmal was targeted precisely because he was one of few honest and effective officials in the city. Earlier in the day, Taliban militants attacked the home of a key ally of Afghan President Hamid Karzai, killing three children. According to Reuters, the Taliban have stepped up attacks in the area ahead of a NATO and Afghan military offensive planned for this June.

Karzai-U.S. spat over? The Washington Post reports that the Obama administration's public conflict with Karzai is over. After anti-Western pronouncements by Karzai and suggestions by senior U.S. officials that Karzai was an unreliable partner, the tensions between Kabul and Washington have cooled. During the much-publicized spat, some had speculated that the White House might revoke its invitation to Karzai to visit the U.S. But in a sign that the crisis has been resolved, the Obama administration announced that Karzai's May visit would go ahead as planned. Richard Holbrooke--Obama's Afghanistan and Pakistan special representative--told a State Department briefing that relations were now "in good shape."

Suicide bomber kills members of Pakistani Islamist party. Protesters belonging to a prominent Islamist party and a senior police officer were killed in a suicide attack in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar. The bomber's apparent target was Gulfat Hussein, deputy superintendent of the city's police force. The New York Times speculates that Hussein was attacked because he was a Shiite and was known for providing security to Shiite religious festivals. There have been two other attacks on Shiites in the past four days. Groups linked to Al Qaeda and the Taliban have been responsible for sectarian violence in the past.

However, the attack was unusual in that it occurred near an anti-government demonstration held by members of the Jamaat-e-Islami, a mainly Sunni Islamist party that opposes the U.S. and expresses sympathy for the Taliban. Two dozen members of the party died in the attack. According to Dawn, while authorities blamed the Taliban, the party alleged that the CIA and Indian intelligence agencies were responsible.


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02:17 PM on 04/21/2010
Its amazing that the mass murder in Pakistan is not mentioned in amybodys comments. In fact look in H.P. and try to find it. Why did the troops fire. Because the Taliban makes it so. READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE FROM THE NY TIMES SundayRegarding the slaughter:
"Two suicide bombings at a centre for people displaced by a Pakistani military offensive against militants killed at least 32 people and wounded 80 on Saturday, said an official. The first attacker, disguised as a woman in an all-enveloping burqa cloth, was followed seconds later by a teenager who blew himself up, local Commissioner Khalid Khan Omarzai said."
Thats why troops fire when somebody starts speeding up when they should slow down.....
Disguised as a woman, teenager who blew himself up....
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02:23 AM on 04/21/2010
Glory be to God who is above the imperfections of man.

America still doesn't have its transafghan TAPI (Turkmen, Afghan, Pakistani, Indian) pipeline built and AFghanistan is already succumbing to the 'liberalizing' effects of American occupation. Prostitution is up in Iraq and drug use is up in Afghanistan. For kids who have no education - Taliban schools have been replaced with UN sanctioned curriculi- who's families are either dead, off in a tiny desolate village, or are dirt poor, these kids are becoming the same kids in Rio d Janiero's slums, or Mumbai's slums, or Mexico City's, or Bangkok's.

They would have been better off in Taliban schools.
05:49 PM on 04/20/2010
Well it looks like mission accomplished. Heroin use is also up in the US since we got hold of the Opium fields.

Wonder how these drugs are getting here??? hmmmm.
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12:12 AM on 04/21/2010
Citation please.
02:41 PM on 04/21/2010
C 130's, of course - they come in, drop off the stuff on Air Force bases (customs? what customs?), and fly back with bombs & bullets. It's the perfect transportation system! Thanks, Mr. Cheney!!
05:30 PM on 04/20/2010
As a Canadian I can honestly say this makes me proud:

Canadian general in Afghanistan charged in gun incident
OTTAWA — The top Canadian general in Afghanistan, who ordered military police to investigate him after his rifle went off unexpectedly, has been charged.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20100420/general_charged_100420/20100420?hub=Canada

The General places the same expectations on himself as he does his men.
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06:01 PM on 04/20/2010
Kudos to the Canadian General.

However, Canada should get out of Afghanistan NOW.
"On March 13, 2008, the Harper Conservative government's motion to extend the military mission past February 2009 into 2011 was approved in a parliamentary vote with the support of the Liberal opposition."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada%27s_role_in_the_Afghanistan_War
06:08 PM on 04/20/2010
If I, and many Canadians, had had any say we would have left in 2009. There will be no more extensions, guaranteed. Politically, Harper would never survive.

Unlike America, we have no term limits for serving as PM. If Harper wants to stay relevant in Canada we will be out in the summer of 2011, no matter the pressure from Clinton, or any other US representative.
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02:25 AM on 04/21/2010
Canadian propaganda machine at work. How about saluting those Mounties- they always get their man- except OBL!
02:38 AM on 04/21/2010
Please feel free to show me where the mandate of the RCMP is to invade foreign counties to capture terrorists who committed no crimes on Canadian soil.

And besides, Dubya and McCain, with their knowledge of how to catch OBL (funny how they refuse to share that info with their OWN military) have no control over the RCMP.
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05:23 PM on 04/20/2010
When in doubt, open fire and say they were speeding. Better them than me. Its an excepted reason for accidental shootings. No officer is going to bring soldiers up on charges for what they percieved to be defending themselves against a threat. Tragic and horrifing, you bet. Accidentlly killing innocent civilians is a terrible deed that never goes away. These shootings wont end until the US is out of the country.
05:38 PM on 04/20/2010
Also, "when you want some target practice, open fire and say they were speeding".

NATO and U.S. forces have videotaped themselves firing mindlessly at passing civilian vehicles and chuckling as the cars run off the road.
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02:40 AM on 04/21/2010
Omobob, something rings hollow in your post. There are plenty of ways to reduce such 'accidental fatalities' if there was impetus to do so. If it was an American checkpoint on an American road in suburban America, your commanders would have devised ways to minimize such 'tragedies'. Signs, speed bumps, local police patrol before the checkpoint, flares, barriers, whatever.
If you want to claim a surprise checkpoint, from just a few minutes of brainstorming, you can find ways to make a mock traffic accident which causes vehicles to stop, into a spontaneous checkpoint.

I saw 60 minutes when a US special forces soldier declared a checkpoint and a few minutes after started shooting at an oncoming truck, hitting a 14-16 year old boy in the back. The boy looked like my son, tall, gangling, with a baby face. You better believe you would have turned me into a Taliban if that were my son. There is no moral standard of war for such irresponsible, careless conduct. Its careless, even amoral military leadership.
05:06 PM on 04/20/2010
The Taliban was eradicating drugs in their country before we got there, rocking the drug market around the world. Everywhere the American MIC goes, the drug trade follows. The same criminals in charge of the drug trade which was misleadingly called Iran-Contra are in charge of Afghanistan. 0% of our heroin came from there before we got there; now, it is 40%. From near eradication, since we have been there, they are now growing more drugs than ever in their history. Investigators of the world wide financial crash say that it was only the drug money that kept the banks afloat.

Congratulations America.
05:27 PM on 04/20/2010
You know that is a myth about the Taliban and drug eradication.

No, I guess after all you wouldn't know that.

Just like you don't know poppies have always been grown in Afghanistan, to one degree or another.

In the Good Old Days the King controlled the opium trade.

Hashish was left to the free market.
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05:00 PM on 04/20/2010
It's a win win, bring the troops home. They're killing themselves just like drive-by shootings.
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04:58 PM on 04/20/2010
Ah, the Bush legacy will never end.
05:29 PM on 04/20/2010
The Bush legacy of incompetence has ended.

And hopefully the Obama Administration will find a way out of the criminal mess Bush/Cheney produced.

But you are correct. The evils of Bush/Cheney will far out live their lifetimes.
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04:57 PM on 04/20/2010
Although in most cases I will always take accounts on the US side with a healthy dose of skepticism, it's hard for me to justify why US troops should *not* fire at an accelerating vehicle. My gut instinct is to file this under "unfortunate incident" rather than "outright murder".

Too bad about the high rate of opium abuse, but if I live in Afghanistan I'd probably light up a few joints, too.
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04:44 PM on 04/20/2010
"Two U.S. Army specialists involved in the July 2007 Baghdad shootings depicted in the infamous Wikileaks video have written an open letter to Iraqis offering "our apology, our sorrow, our care, and our dedication to change.""
http://org2.democracyinaction.org/o/5966/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2724

What would " We-know- All- About-Rules- of Engagement Guys at HP" say about this?
05:32 PM on 04/20/2010
I woulds say their community and family probably let them know how disgusted they were at the actions displayed.

If they truly were sorry they would have admitted the truth and apologized then, not lied until they had no choice BUT to come clean.
02:44 PM on 04/21/2010
"Sorry about killing your husband and brother - here's a goat and two passes to Disney World!"
04:24 PM on 04/20/2010
Another barometer of our success in the Middle East?
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04:14 PM on 04/20/2010
lets see we get our dope in afghan that we protect

we now get our oil in iraq

we now have the opportunity to get more oil in iran after we bomb them.

god I love america we can invade countries at will and occupy them and steal their resources.

we are truly god's chosen nation.

it feels so goood to live in a christian nation.

god bless we americans.

now if we can just get that oil in canada in their oil slates.

how hard would it be to mow down their mounties on horse back with our tanks.

is canada working on a nuke we could use as an excuse to invade them.

god bless imperialism and americans like our congress, white house, and supreme court. and the people that vote these people into office.

truly we are a great republic and we deserve this oil and dope.

plus by protecting afghan's dope trade we can have our own war on drugs here and privitize prisons and make a ton of money here.

bless capitialism there is a sucker born every minute and two capitalists to take them to the cleaners.

my wall street friend just got a million dollar bonus for selling a product to a customer knowing it would fail then selling that insurance to another that it would fail. like taking candy from babies in dumbed down greedy america.
04:44 PM on 04/20/2010
fanned for truth
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05:03 PM on 04/20/2010
:"With god on our side" Various artists, maybe written by B Dylan.
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04:08 PM on 04/20/2010
NO! You mean we paid Blackwater to do our dirty work like arm and fund drug cartels and somehow that led to the heroin problem increasing making the people more docile and easily controlled? Weird...
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04:05 PM on 04/20/2010
Kind of funny when you think that the Taliban had drastically cut poppy production. Now it is the #1 crop in Afghanistan and heroin in the US is purer than ever.
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03:49 PM on 04/20/2010
You are right.
But the other side of the coin is that the US military has perpetrated enough lies and cover ups to leave doubts. Let's start with Pat Tillman's death.