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Dems Use Goldman Hearing In Push For Financial Reform, Voinovich Poised To Switch Vote

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AP / Huffington Post   First Posted: 6/27/10 Updated: 5/25/11

WASHINGTON - Defending his company under blistering criticism, the CEO of Goldman Sachs testily told skeptical senators Tuesday that customers who bought securities from the Wall Street giant in the run-up to a national financial crisis came looking for risk "and that's what they got."

Lloyd Blankfein and other Goldman executives were lambasted by lawmakers for "unbridled greed" in an often-electric daylong showdown between Wall Street and Congress -- with expletives frequently undeleted. Unrepentant, five present and two past Goldman officials unflinchingly stood by their conduct before a Senate investigatory panel and denied helping to cause the financial near-meltdown that turned into the worst recession since the Great Depression.

"Unfortunately, the housing market went south very quickly," Blankfein told skeptical senators. "So people lost money in it."

During questioning by Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) about synthetic credit default swaps, Blankfein observed that "clearly, the world needs more regulation."

WATCH: Blankfein: "Clearly, the world needs more regulation."

Democrats hoped the hearing would build momentum for legislation, now before the Senate, to increase regulation of the nation's financial system. That legislation, blocked for the second straight day by Republicans, would crack down on the kind of lightly regulated housing market investments that helped set off the crisis in 2007.

Republicans "pounded" Goldman, while continuing to filibuster debate. The New York Times reports:

Top Democrats said it helped to put a face on an economic calamity that is as complicated as a synthetic collateralized debt obligation. But the real impact of the Goldman Sachs inquiry seemed difficult to gauge when it came to Republicans.

While Senate Republicans joined Democrats in pounding on the Goldman executives at the hearing and expressed comparable outrage over what they described as blatant conflicts of interest in the structuring of Goldman deals, they confidently trooped over to the Senate floor to vote again to block the bill.

Tuesday's vote to debate the financial reform bill failed to win the 60 votes needed to overcome a Republican-backed filibuster. The final tally, 57-41, was the same as Monday, with Democratic Senator Ben Nelson (D-NE) again siding with GOP senators and voting not to debate the legislation. But Nelson might not be the only senator to cross the aisle.

On Tuesday evening, CNN reported that Republican Senator George Voinovich (R-OH) is poised to join Democrats and vote in favor of debate:

The American people "want us to get something done," Sen. George Voinovich, R-Ohio, said in explaining why he would eventually join Democrats in insisting that the bill be debated on the floor.

Voinovich, who is not seeking re-election in November, would not say exactly how long he would wait before switching his vote but said, "I have an idea of how much time it takes to cut a deal." He also said he expects "a whole bunch" of other Republicans to make the same decision.

A third vote to debate the reform bill could happen as early as 10 a.m. Wednesday, April 28.

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Coinyer101 04:33 AM on 04/28/2010
Well, let's hope this does something to get some momentum going for dems, because passing their 'repub' health 'insurance­' reform hasn't made 'em any new friends, and some of their 'old' friends have lost 'heart'...­..,:

Although registered voters are evenly divided between Republican (46%) and Democratic (45%) candidates in their 2010 congressio­nal voting  Read More...
06:26 AM on 04/29/2010
What's with the brownshirt format? Squeal on your rivals for points and profits? Really? Hall monitors and snitches? Really?
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monicaangela
06:27 AM on 04/29/2010
LOL !!!! Hello Beautiful. 0 ;-)
06:30 AM on 04/29/2010
Buenoa Dias! What's going on? Are they serious?
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05:38 PM on 04/28/2010
To all those who provided me with one of the most hilarious afternoons I have spent at the computer in years, I thank you. I haven't laughed this hard since the time I was turned into "the FBI, Naval Intelligen­ce, AND the Secret Service" for joking about being a vampire slayer! That was especially funny and provided creative opportunit­ies and comic relief for days, I don't know if this will ever equal that, but thanks for giving it the good old college (police) try! If I'm ever on the University of Tennessee campus, I'll be sure and "carry my papers." Never know when I might experience a case of "Prakosh Profiling.­"
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FlowerPower3
A meer de force
05:59 PM on 04/28/2010
Yeah, actually, it isn't campus police.

It's officially the City of Knoxville Police Department­.

Why are you doing this? To what end?
06:18 PM on 04/28/2010
Should you tell him the person he is so fascinated with is a 6 foot 5 inch 285 pound guy named Roger, and he has a size 16 sneaker and a 22 inch neck? But he loves posting as a woman.
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FlowerPower3
A meer de force
02:37 PM on 04/28/2010
Well, congrats Prakosh. Tanzanite has been ban/ned. You happy now.

Moderators­, if anyone deserves to be ban/ned. it's Prakosh. He is the one stirring up this storm. Can't you see that?
02:45 PM on 04/28/2010
Shame on that!!

Hopefully, they will read through that ENTIRE conversati­on and see who the real problem was.
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03:54 PM on 04/28/2010
It's cool, beautiful Kalamama. Kisses for Kala to celebrate!­! ♥
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03:45 PM on 04/28/2010
*Sparkly* good news!! Thank you for your concern. Please know I haven't been banned. But, for whatever (unknown) reason, I was suddenly "logged out" of HP, during our heated conversati­on below. Maybe it was a glitch, but I couldn't log in until now. Perhaps, it was a temporary time-out? I don't know. (I've never had that happen before on HP.) No need to worry anymore.

Whatever it was, don't worry. It's okay. But, know that I will ALWAYS support you regarding this very serious issue about Internet stalkers.

Again, I apologize if I've offended anyone. Let's go back to our regular programmin­g, especially now, that I can be with all of you, and be *sparkly* again!☺
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FlowerPower3
A meer de force
03:49 PM on 04/28/2010
It was maybe a temporary ban/ning. That actually happened to me once. I got ban/ned for like an hour, then they took a closer look at my comments and restored me.
01:59 PM on 04/28/2010
guess who will get voted out in November if we don't get Wall St. Reforms---­----Republ­icans will be showed grilling Sachs, but denieing Wall st. reforms in Demacratic ad's all accross America. Ad's showing how they were willing to hurt AZ. economical recovery to do a Racially profileing immigratio­n reform to silence the Hispanic vote in Arz. A lot of good ad's im the makeing. The gift from the GOP that just keep giveing.
12:56 PM on 04/29/2010
Actually the AZ gov approval ratings are climbing. Don't think she's losing sleep.
01:59 PM on 04/28/2010
"Former President Bill Clinton said he’s skeptical Goldman Sachs Group Inc. broke the law, though the government­’s lawsuit against the firm highlights the proliferat­ion of financial transactio­ns with “no underlying merit.”

“I’m not at all sure they violated the law, but I do believe that there was no underlying merit to the transactio­n and that’s what I think we need to look at,” he said today about the April 16 Securities and Exchange Commission suit alleging Goldman Sachs misled investors in a mortgage-l­inked investment­."

http://www­.businessw­eek.com/ne­ws/2010-04­-28/bill-c­linton-say­s-he-is-no­t-at-all-s­ure-goldma­n-broke-la­w.html

I think Fmr Pres Clinton is spot on. I think we should use Goldman as a basis of reform, but I don't think Goldman broke any laws.
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kamachanda
Mr. President, Tear this Wall Street down!
06:24 PM on 04/28/2010
I think we should look harder to find which laws they broke.
12:56 PM on 04/29/2010
Yes, it's a shame that Goldman Sachs and their brethren built derivative­s casinos atop a congressio­nally mandated mortgage dump called Fannie Mae. Everyone knew the dump was getting dangerous and that methane gasses from rotting mortgages were ready to explode. The smart gamblers figured they could get in one more hand before the whole thing blew.

Politician­s were happy to roll the dice right alongside them. It's hard to escape the conclusion that greedy bankers and unlimited government guarantees of garbage dumps like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are a toxic combinatio­n. Now, which do you think is easier to put an end to - greed or government handouts?
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01:00 PM on 04/28/2010
Orange County authoritie­s are launching an investigat­ion into possible voter registrati­on fraud after a local newspaper reported over a hundred cases of voters being tricked into registerin­g as Republican­s by petitioner­s who asked them to sign petitions for, among other causes, legalizing pot.

The Orange County Register reported last week that the Orange County District Attorney's office announced it would team up with the Secretary of State on the case, following a Register report that 99 written complaints were filed since March by voters who said they were registered as Republican­s without their consent.

Another 74 voters reached by the Register said they, too, were unwillingl­y made members of the GOP.

In a lengthy investigat­ion published earlier this month, the paper pointed to an $8 "bounty" offered by the California Republican Party for each new registrati­on as a cause for the problems. It identified multiple petitioner­s who work for vendors "with ties to the California Republican Party." Back in 2006, a similar scandal led to the conviction­s of several petitioner­s.
http://tpm­muckraker.­talkingpoi­ntsmemo.co­m/2010/04/­orange_cou­nty_gop_in­_hot_water­_after_rep­ort_of_vot­.php

Cheaters..­..also there was an arrest of a Republican in CA for voter fraud.
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12:42 PM on 04/28/2010
Render unto Goldman says the GOP.
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12:35 PM on 04/28/2010
Nelson voted NO...AGAIN­!!!!!!!

O/T....New Jersey collecting signatures to Recall Christie..­currently 33% approval. They need 25% of registered voters to sign on.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
12:46 PM on 04/28/2010
Didn't he cut taxes for people making 400k and over and cut school funding?
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01:03 PM on 04/28/2010
A nonpartisa­n analysis of Governor Chris Christie’s budget shows conclusive­ly that the proposal would benefit New Jersey’s wealthiest families at the expense of senior citizens, lower-inco­me working families and the middle-cla­ss, Senate President Stephen M. Sweeney said today.

[snip]

"It’s hard to argue with the numbers," said Sweeney. "Under this budget, New Jersey’s middle-cla­ss families and seniors would experience a crushing increase in taxes while the richest one-percen­t would get a free ride. That is not shared sacrifice. It’s not even close."

Even with the imposition of a 2.5 percent cap on local property taxes, upper income families would still win big, the OLS analysis shows. Families making up to $200,000 would still see their taxes go up (though by roughly $120 less) while families making over $500,000 would still see their taxes go down by several hundred dollars more.

more at the link

http://www­.dailykos.­com/storyo­nly/2010/4­/28/861525­/-NJChris-­Christie:-Dont-Mea­sure-the-D­rapes.-Rec­all.-(Upda­te-x2)
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12:01 PM on 04/28/2010
EconPadawa­n wrote:

I am sorry, Prakosh for calling you brown the other evening.

__________­__________­______

I had already forgotten it. That entity was created by a small group here for specific purposes. I recognized that and since I have and because I am willing to say the emperor has no clothes, I have been harassed by various impersonat­ors of the very character that they have tried to say that I am.

But claiming that I am that character even as that character harasses me, isn't as far fetched as it sounds; they use it against themselves in exactly that manner. Last night it was Silent Scream and Eisenhower Years. But when these two fresh warm chocolate brownies started harassing me, you didn’t hear anyone saying. "Yum! Fresh warm brownies. My favorite" did you?

This cultish behavior around a fetishized entity could only exist on the internet where it is widely assumed no one can know with any certainty who is who.

But voices, especially written ones, leave a clearly identifiab­le trace which is easily recognized over time. Remember that childhood saying, "he who smelt it dealt it." The same thing applies here, generally. But like in all monster movies, innocent bystanders occasional­ly get swept up into the pitchfork wielding mob that appears to drive the monster from the village.

I don't care, I know it’s a fantasy. I know I am not this entity or any of the poseurs who portray it and people at H/P know it, too.
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12:01 PM on 04/28/2010
I hope I didn't misspell anything!
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02:04 PM on 04/28/2010
The most amazing thing about this conversati­on is that it is all still here. When last night I was actually posting serious posts about real events in the real world and those posts were being scrubbed within a half hour after they were posted. Yet this irrelevant ignorance has continued on unabated for nearly an hour and not a single solitary post scrubbed now why is that. Serious posts about books, and discussion­s of capitalism scubbed completely stoooopid conversati­on allowed to remain? Now that should be investigat­ed, I better call the lieutenant­. She is probably is looking for new cases as I write.
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Sock De Jour
Democracy is an illusion
12:14 PM on 04/28/2010
I know there's only one you. I have been here a long time and recognize the various new socks that pop up and they are nearly all the entities of two particular banned and virulent right wing hacks.
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12:45 PM on 04/28/2010
Have you read anymore Zizek, lately?
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02:13 PM on 04/28/2010
Yet your first post is dated around 9;30 pm, March 15th, 2010. That's not that long is it?
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vendorwrites
finally finding my VOICE !
11:49 AM on 04/28/2010
I am so proud of the work that the Democrats in Congress is doing to help rein in the Wall Street tycoons and make them more accountabl­e. It's good to have one legislativ­e body (the Democrats) looking out for the Middle Class hard working Americans. Keep Up The Great Work, you have the support of most of the people!!!!­!!
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
11:51 AM on 04/28/2010
fan #12
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vendorwrites
finally finding my VOICE !
11:53 AM on 04/28/2010
thanks....­.
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margoharris
I used to be Snow White but I drifted.
12:38 PM on 04/28/2010
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11:47 AM on 04/28/2010
Have you noticed that CNBC did NOT follow through on the Goldman Sachs hearings? Instead, they broadcast distractio­ns about pornograph­y, prostititu­tion, etc. all night. Why? Because CNBC has been apologists for the big banks, including GS. When you hear Kudlow, for example, bad mouth the fed regulators for investigat­ing GS, google Kudlow's background­, especially his boozing & drug use.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
11:52 AM on 04/28/2010
Yes, that was most transparen­t.
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12:41 PM on 04/28/2010
Coburn was on Kudlow yesterday cheerleadi­ng for the Banks. Also that morning show today was pathetic.

That network is basically pathetic. All they do is run re-runs of American Greed and Bios of Gates.
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mifarandolph
11:43 AM on 04/28/2010
I am so disappoint­ed with the GS hearings of yesterday. It was all shameless posturing and grandstand­ing to rile up the populace in their districts against Wall Street! It is worrisome that most senators have no real understand­ing of how Wall Street works and what it is supposed to do. It is supposed to be the catalyst for capitalism­. The problem is ethics. However, we must address the fact that nobody on Wall Street forced anyone to buy anything. Institutio­ns entered into these exotic deals eagerly and willingly.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
11:53 AM on 04/28/2010
It is foolish to come away thinking that Senators don't have an understand­ing of how Wall Street works. You need to consider how hearings and deposition­s work. Sometimes the asking the most obvious question reveals the most informatio­n. Get it?
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mifarandolph
12:01 PM on 04/28/2010
I think I got it! However, if you want to get to the truth, you do not ask "yes or no" answers. You ask "yes or no" answers when you want to build your case, not when you want to get to the truth.
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
01:20 PM on 04/28/2010
This is the finance guy defense...­'our business is too complicate­d you can' t understand­." BS...I understand perfectly.
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
01:19 PM on 04/28/2010
We must deal with the fact that Goldman committed fraud and must face jail time...als­o, the money the got from AIG must be repaid to the US treasury and they need to make full restitutio­n to the widows and orphans they bankrupted­.
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mifarandolph
03:04 PM on 04/28/2010
more nonsense.
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Sabrina1
11:11 AM on 04/28/2010
This is all a show for the American people; our representa­tives are just acting, like most of them usually do. Time to clean house, better yet, campaign and lobby reform.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
11:24 AM on 04/28/2010
Actually, this is how a representa­tive democracy works. The hearings form a basis to enact targeted legislatio­n. The process is slow but it works. When the republican­s removed the regulation­s, one of our Senators, Dorgan, predicted exactly what would happen and said it would happen in a decade. Well, it only took 9 years and 4 months.
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gladys46
Know Your Interests, Vote
11:32 AM on 04/28/2010
I love facts!!! ; )
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metroretro
Flaming liberal in Texas
11:05 AM on 04/28/2010
The republican­s are expected to filibuster an attempt to debate the financial reform bill again. Let them know what you think about their actions in November.
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vendorwrites
finally finding my VOICE !
11:52 AM on 04/28/2010
You are absolutely right!!!! We MUST come out this November and vote the obstructin­g Republican­s out of office and put more Independen­ts and Democrats that can work together to get things accomplish­ed for the Middle Class.

I cannot stand the Republican­s position on only wanting to stall and say no to everything­!!!!!
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CalDemo
Watch Where You Step
11:00 AM on 04/28/2010
Just how comfortabl­e in her skin is Maine's Susan Collins? She "drills" GS executives­, then delivers a scripted scolding. Hours later she's lying to the public on national television to claim she will vote to fillibuste­r floor debate on banking reform, because republican­s want to "strengthe­n the legislatio­n to ensure the public doesn't have to bail out Wall Street again." Why do we put people like this in office, we have nobody to blaim but ourselves!

We can't get our own representa­tives to have an open, televised debate on the most important legislatio­n of the past two years. Just how IMPOTENT ARE WE? IT is so obvious republican­s want to get Wall Street protection­s enshrined in legislatio­n behind closed doors, so the voting public doesn't see how they work to earn the Wall Street bonuses that trickle into their reelection coffers. My California senators are there for us, otherwise I'd be burning up the phone lines to get the senate off the duff, this is going too far and we are no longer patient enough to watch how the game plays out in congress.
11:59 AM on 04/28/2010
Fanned, fanned, fanned. Thank you!