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Lamar Smith Wants Eric Holder To Say 'Radical Islam' Or He'll Cry

First Posted: 05/14/10 04:09 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:30 PM ET

Lamar Smith

Fighting terrorism is hard. But for the Liz Cheney set, there can be no success in the War on Terror unless you are using the magical words! You must say, "war," for example -- in fact, preferably -- "WAAARRRRRR!" -- whilst stamping your itty-bitty feet and screwing up your face into a rictus of impotent, jelly-livered rage. Also, you apparently must always say, "radical Islam," or your counter-terror efforts just don't count, sorry! And so the wingnuts are going nuts over this video of Attorney General Eric Holder -- who wants to have adult discussions about important matters -- and Representative Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), whose only job is to exploit whatever free-floating anxiety he can find so he can keep his his ass in his Congressional seat and his itching, baby-soft palm outstretched.

Basically, Smith is on a mission: to get Eric Holder to use the words "radical Islam," because he thinks that you fight terrorists in the same way that you fight Rumplestiltzkin.

[WATCH]

I'll readily admit, part of me sort of wishes that Holder would just recognize that he is speaking to a child, accede to his frivolous needs, burp him and then just move on. But it's understandable why Holder is unwilling to cast the entire matter as some epic religious clash -- a key component to counter-terror efforts is to continually marginalize the terrorist dead-enders from the larger Islamic community, with whom we have common cause. Smith would probably argue that the word "radical" does all of Holder's heavy lifting for him, but just try referring to the Hutaree terrorists as a "radical Christian group" (which they are!) and see what kind of complaints you get.

But beyond all that, what's most glaring about this whole matter is just how daft this all is. On that score, Steve Benen puts it better than I could:

But in particular, the interest in the Smith/Holder exchange is a reminder that for much of the right, rhetoric is more important than substance. The Obama administration has captured terrorists, prevented attacks, and struck at terrorists around the world, but that doesn't matter nearly as much as how they choose to describe the threat.


For the simple-minded, those who incorporate the word "Islam" are to be trusted; those who don't are not.

Or, as Steve from No More Mister Nice Blog puts it:

This is how right-wingers think you fight terrorism: by saying certain words that make right-wingers feel good as often as possible. Anyone want to explain why doing that for seven-plus years between 9/11 and Bush's last helicopter takeoff from the White House lawn didn't help us catch bin Laden and Zawahiri? Anyone want to explain why the Taliban is still in operation and spreading? Or why there are still insurgents in Iraq? Or why Ahmadinejad is still thriving? WHY DIDN'T YOUR FREAKING WORDS PREVENT ALL THAT? Why didn't saying ISLAMOFASCISM! RADICAL ISLAM! ISLAMOFASCISM! RADICAL IALAM! [sic] from 9/12/01 to 1/20/09 get the job done?

Meanwhile, you probably didn't hear about this, but earlier this week, a terrorist set off a pipe bomb at the Islamic Center of Northeast Florida in Jacksonville, while 60 people were inside. No one was hurt, because this particular terrorist was only slightly better at bombing than Faisal Shahzad was. The FBI is said to be following some "viable" leads.

I'm guessing that when this particular terrorist bomber is caught, no one in the world will suggest that he shouldn't be Mirandized, no one will insist that he be tried in a military court or tortured, and any mention of whatever sick religious beliefs served as the attack's motivating force will be met with a pearl-clutchy insistence that we not indict all followers of whatever faith is involved.

Until then, let's all clap our hands and yell "CRAZY CHRISTIAN TERRORIST" as loud as we can, so that law enforcement officials catch the perpetrator harder and faster.

RELATED:
SMITH VS. HOLDER [Washington Monthly]
LAMAR SMITH HAS "RADICAL ISLAM" TOURETTE'S [No More Mister Nice Blog]

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Fighting terrorism is hard. But for the Liz Cheney set, there can be no success in the War on Terror unless you are using the magical words! You must say, "war," for example -- in fact, preferably -...
Fighting terrorism is hard. But for the Liz Cheney set, there can be no success in the War on Terror unless you are using the magical words! You must say, "war," for example -- in fact, preferably -...
 
 
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Opygollopy
The more I talk to people, the more I love my dogs
02:38 PM on 05/16/2010
Frank Luntz is the equivalent of a person yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre. He creates as much chaos and fear as is possible, but, he is the one closest to the door. His word usage is protected by Free Speech even though it is incitement to violence, threats, mis-information and outright lies.

The country and the W. H. is spending all its time deflecting the ideas this man cooks up every day in his "pure white" brain. He is inciting fear and h8tred for the only ones in government who want to dig the U. S. out of the hole it is in. Against all odds, they are succeeding by doggedly deflecting all the accusations the GOP can throw at them. All the while the GOP are not being brought to the carpet by voters for obstructing, lying, and purposely misleading their base.

There is a label for this, it was used beginning in 1933 and ended in 1945. Is this what Americans want. To purge the country of anything that is not white? Go ahead, but be prepared to build a fence around your whole country, because everyone will want out, not in.
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11:27 AM on 05/16/2010
Integrity, honesty and humor. Great combination!
06:47 AM on 05/16/2010
holder isnt allowed to call the shooter of the fort hood massacre "radical" either. he'll get spanked by ole telepromter obama and rahm.
01:02 PM on 05/16/2010
PC at it's sickening best. Wake up libs....now!!
05:26 PM on 05/16/2010
no, I think I'll sleep in.
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MyFatCat
I'm paid in catnip
12:23 AM on 05/16/2010
The same people who think God's last name is Dammit, and who think that "illegal" always prefaces the word "immigration," are now declaring that the only Muslim is a radical Muslim.

As one writer (Dorothy Parker?) put it: "Nouns and verbs are gold. Adjectives are cheaper ore." Trying to make a compound noun of an adjective and a noun will, I hope, fail.
06:44 AM on 05/16/2010
well - your's is one of the most ignorant posts this morning.
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Opygollopy
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02:22 PM on 05/16/2010
Actually, the reverse is true. He has a good command of the english language, he capitalizes Proper nouns and uses punctuation. His tenses are good and he uses adjectives properly, you do not.

That analysis being done, your post does not make the grade, any grade, considering it lacks substance, punctuation and proper usage of grammar.

Sorry, you lose.
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Opygollopy
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02:41 PM on 05/16/2010
Fanned.
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lthuedk 1
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12:14 AM on 05/16/2010
It's more than just the Separation of Church and State at stake here.

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

The infiltration and overthrow of the United States by religion gone wild isn't some wacko delusion. The threat is real. Do not let the angelic smiles of Palin or Robertson fool you. They do not seek peace, but the destruction of anything non-Christian. Does anyone truly believe Rev. Hagee's effort to convert Jews to Christian Zionist will bring peace?

Clue: When a Christian power broker teams with the American Enterprise Institute, peace is not waiting over the next horizon.

http://www.light-to-dark.com/Hagee_to_the_Rescue.html
01:43 PM on 05/15/2010
I discussed this article today with a friend of mine who is a Muslim. I asked about the concept of "Radical Islam." His response was first that there are a lot of crazy Muslims out there, but it would be better to refer to these people as "radical Muslims" not followers of "radical Islam." I think this is a great observation because Islam does not condone the actions of these terrorists any more than Christianity as a religion condones the actions of "radical Christians."

American Leslie - I understand your frustration with PC "word police," but words do matter. Using the term "radical Islam" instills the false idea in non-Muslims who no little or nothing about Islam that the Koran condones the behavior of terrorists. It does not.
10:45 AM on 05/15/2010
When will we get away from the marketing rebranding of words by conservatwits?
Insurgent = rebel
Enemy combatant = prisoner of war
Self enrichment = embezzle
Climate change = global warming
Death tax = estate tax
Torture = enhanced techniques
And the list goes on. They have gone so far as to hire PR firms that create new branding to create a kinder perception of their agenda.
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noaxe397
11:53 AM on 05/15/2010
abortion=murder
fetus=unborn child
insurance payments=entitlement programs
employee benefits=welfare
12:07 PM on 05/15/2010
Oh brother. We could do this all day. Both sides use euphemisms but they are far more prevalent on the left. http://liberalspeak.com/
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Decipherer
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04:50 PM on 05/15/2010
What? You are nuckin' futz.
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littleolwinemakerme
Put A Cork In It!
05:51 PM on 05/15/2010
This joint is lousy with nitwits & tro//s
10:36 AM on 05/15/2010
If we removed the entire fear-based rethuglican M.O., would they have anything pertinent to run on? Hmmmm...
12:15 PM on 05/15/2010
The left constantly plays on people's fears. Examples:

Evil bankers and corporations are out to take advantage of your family and make you poor. Global Warming will destroy the planet. Hispanics in Arizona will now be arrested for going out for ice cream. The mere existence of guns leads to more violence than would exist without them. Hateful rhetoric on the radio and cable will lead to violence.

The difference is when they do it their solution is ALWAYS to take away more freedoms and give more power to the federal government.

Oh and I'll just go ahead and rebut you before you get a chance to respond since you lefties are so predictable. Of course all of those fears are "justified" in your eyes. Many on the right would say the same thing about the fears you accuse them of "fearmongering" over.
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Decipherer
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04:58 PM on 05/15/2010
Thank you for your insight, Frank Luntz.
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littleolwinemakerme
Put A Cork In It!
05:52 PM on 05/15/2010
The difference is when they do it their solution is ALWAYS to take away more freedoms and give more power to the federal government.

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Miss Dubya much?
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noaxe397
10:34 AM on 05/15/2010
This is just more white racism writ large. White racists have been told we are living in something called a "post racial society" so these home schooled inbreds think that means it's OK to use racial epithets in public again.

Yes, angry white men, there ARE radical islmists in this world who want to hurt us. But how foes speaking the word make us safer?

Remember, the Bush administration Luntz-tested many terms to see which ones scared people the most.

Remember "islamo-fascism?" They had to drop that one because Bush had too much trouble saying it.

Dems wil concentrate on stopping attacks; not making up words that make it look like they are stopping attacks. So far it's: Republicans-3,000; Democrats-0, if you are keeping score.
10:39 AM on 05/15/2010
How does jumping through hoops to avoid calling a spade a spade make us any safer? Do you honestly think there are jih adis over seas who watched this exchange and chose to lay down their arms because they heard Mr. Holder emphasize that they are practicing a perverted version of Is lam? Political correctness for the sake of political correctness accomplishes nothing. It is a pointless, silly exercise.
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pottedferne
10:45 AM on 05/15/2010
yes it was........on Smith's part........
11:15 AM on 05/15/2010
People used to say, "..that's politics." Now, we constantly hear, "..that's racist!" Please come up with something a bit more original. You're boring us.
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noaxe397
11:52 AM on 05/15/2010
It IS original for angry white men to be so overtly racist that you can call them racist and the only ones who don't agree are angry white men.

And, it is not racist to call a racist a racist.
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Somali
The best defense is no offense.
10:33 AM on 05/15/2010
Whoa!
10:32 AM on 05/15/2010
Can he answer a "yes or no" question properly?
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02:53 PM on 05/15/2010
Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or no?

Sometimes a question cannot be answered "yes" or "no".
07:49 PM on 05/15/2010
I would answer, "No, but I never started." The questioner could cut the answerer short, but Holder never even answered the question.
06:40 AM on 05/16/2010
well - so far - your's has been one of the most idiotic posts this morning.
10:30 AM on 05/15/2010
Radical Christianity or Fundamental Christianity are acceptable terms. Why isn't Radical Islam?
10:33 AM on 05/15/2010
Islam is not radical, which shows how little you understand about another culture. Where the slanderous christian terms are quite applicable.
10:45 AM on 05/15/2010
Yeah, nothing extreme about a religion that calls for dea th, conversion, or dhimmitude for all non-believers. Wake up!
11:30 AM on 05/15/2010
Your sentence structure makes your comment incomprehensible.
10:38 AM on 05/15/2010
Drew don't confuse them with logic.
10:28 AM on 05/15/2010
Consider this: If a conservative tea partier on the right attempted to blow up an ACLU office, do you guys really think Holder would be jumping through hoops to emphasize that he does not want to call him a right-wing extremist because the person followed a perversion of conservative ideology? That is the problem here. Surely if it was anybody but a Musli m t errorist, Holder would not feel the need to worry about political correctness. Political correctness kills. In a sane world Maj. Hassan would have been kicked out of the army because of all of the red flags, but instead he was promoted and transferred because nobody wanted to confront him on his ji hadi tendencies. This is serious stuff, I don't really understand why Jason Linkins feels the need to crack jokes. Nobody will be laughing next time when the b omb goes off.
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Decipherer
Objects may be closer than they appear
10:35 AM on 05/15/2010
Hard to follow your incoherent ramblings, but try this one on for size:

BOOOOO!!!!!
10:42 AM on 05/15/2010
What part was incoherent? I would be glad to clarify any parts of my statement that you were unable to understand.
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24hourrifle
A time comes when silence is betrayal
10:52 AM on 05/15/2010
so,were you critical of the way the Bush Adm. handled ter r o r i sm?......because thats the real question......

we can have a rational debate-theoretically,at least-over the way the Obama adm. has handles things so far,but the vast majority of critics had nothing to say while Bush was in office,even though the worst at tack in the history of the U.S. occured on his watch......

yet when that happened,not a single elected official-came out and blamed Bush........yet every single time anything occurs under a D President,R members of congress are tripping all over themselves to point blame........as opposed to rallying together and supporting the President and his administration,the way every single Democrat did following 9/11............

you all are so concerned w/ termanology and playing politics,yet during the Bush yrs,anyone,even some random Leftwing actor or musician who criticized the Fed gov't was immediately labeled as un am er i c an......and then the incident was hu n g around the collective ne ck of every progressive/Democrat across the entire country.......
11:08 AM on 05/15/2010
I didn't blame anybody for any attacks or attempted attacks. Did you mean to reply to my post? All I have said in this thread is that political correctness is not helpful when it comes to fighting terr orists. It sounds like you are the one playing politics and I am just looking at the facts. Bush is out of office, get over your obsession with him.
10:25 AM on 05/15/2010
Another Christan terrorist... we really should start profiling these people, most home grown terrorist in the US are Christan after all.
10:39 AM on 05/15/2010
And your point?
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10:14 AM on 05/15/2010
Conservatives care less that we may be bombed than they do that we use certain code words when we talk about terrorism. Holder clearly does not want to denigrate a religion. He is much more honest than the Congressman and words do matter. As the article suggests, if we called members of home grown militias as radical Christians than conservatives would go nuts. Therefore, why not be precise about those Muslims who have adopted an interpretation of the religion inconsistent with its true values. I mean this politician seems to feel if we repeat the words "radical Islam" and touch our toes, terrorism will go away.
10:34 AM on 05/15/2010
That is not a fair comparison. There is nothing in the Bible that says anything about launching holy wars and either k illing all non-believers or forcing them to submit to Christianity or else live as second class citizens. The Koran does. People that think that these musli m extremists have perverted their religion really do not understand the Koran. While I submit the that majority of musli ms are not interested in ji had, to act as if ji had is just something these extremists made up is downright silly. It is in the Koran, so it makes no sense to call it a "perversion."
10:42 AM on 05/15/2010
Maybe not in the new testament, but the old testament does say quite a bit of crazy stuff.
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realpolitic
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10:57 AM on 05/15/2010
There is plenty of wars and a hand for a hand rhetoric in the bible. You must be reading something else. Besides modern day American evangelicals have what they call a prosperity message of Jesus, which is really outside the teachings of Jesus as well. They say Jesus wants us all to be rich. One can argue all of modern American evangelicalism is outside the teachings of Jesus as they emphasize salvation alone and not works.
10:41 AM on 05/15/2010
What holder needs is someone like you speaking for him----he can screw it up himself thank you needs no help
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realpolitic
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10:54 AM on 05/15/2010
No one asked you! He handled himself with aplomb. The Republican was the idiot, as usual.