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Rendell To Health Reform Repealers: 'There's No Going Back'

First Posted: 05/14/10 12:49 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:30 PM ET

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Gov. Ed Rendell (D-Penn.) delivered a stern message on Thursday to those Republicans (including his state's attorney general) who want to repeal the president's health care reform, deem it unconstitutional or drastically change its language or implementation.

"Once you cross the Rubicon and do something that every other developed country in the world has, there's no going back," he said. "No going back. I mean, can you imagine, how would you like to be the politician who votes to take health care away from 1.2 million Pennsylvanians? Not gonna happen. This is all good fire for political campaigns but in reality it's not going to happen."

The Pennsylvania governor, in a briefing sponsored by Health Affairs magazine, spent a good portion of his discussion addressing the heavy responsibilities that fall on states to implement the health care bill recently signed into law. Rendell predicted that the most daunting task will involve setting up the exchanges -- which will require a devotion of state resources and time that could prove daunting if officials are to meet the 2014 start date.

His comments on the effort by GOP officials -- including Pennsylvania Attorney General and Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Corbett -- to demonize the bill and declare it unconstitutional, however, were the most direct.

"When Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid were all enacted, you heard the same stuff," he said. "Go look up the Republican senators in Social Security and Medicare: 'Socialism! Communism!' the same stuff. It's just closing your eyes and not realizing what era you're in. Now, who defended Medicare [this go-round]? The president wisely wants to take some of the waste out of Medicare. And who defended Medicare? The same people who called it some Communist plot five decades ago."

"So we're not going back," Rendell continued. "But we should do that mandatory legislation. I would like to see mandatory legislation on cost control. I'd like to see it get a little tougher. I'd like to see us, [sic] is this doesn't ratchet cost down enough...There is plenty of stuff I'd like to do. And I hope it gets done. But the basic bill itself, we're never going back."

Rendell added that he'd love the challenge of getting the exchanges up and running. But he's term-limited and will be out of public office for the first time in 30 years following the next election. Asked how health care reform would have affected his reelection chances had he run -- and, by extension, how the bill will play in the 2010 races -- he was surprisingly frank.

"It probably slightly hurts," he said. "But I think it's a minuscule issue compared to the economy... If we were to have six more months of significant job growth, say 100,000 a month, plus, I think they'll turn around and it'll not be a big issue at all."

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Gov. Ed Rendell (D-Penn.) delivered a stern message on Thursday to those Republicans (including his state's attorney general) who want to repeal the president's health care reform, deem it unconstitut...
Gov. Ed Rendell (D-Penn.) delivered a stern message on Thursday to those Republicans (including his state's attorney general) who want to repeal the president's health care reform, deem it unconstitut...
 
 
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emma richmond
04:07 AM on 05/16/2010
Rendell, These Republicans are depending on Judge Robert to be the Death Panel For Health-Care Reform, these are the words of Bill McCollum, McCollum said that Judge Robert has the Willingness to Strike down the Land Mark Legislation, he also said Bush 41 Lawyers are working with them, McCollum gave Rekers $120k to testify against allowing gay couples to adopt Children this guy is abusing his Power as a AG, of Florida, Now this leave people to wonder how much is Paying Judge Robert, Bill McCollum is working with Davis Rivkin also a lobbyist, McCollum and several other AGs. These Bastards should be kicked out of office. Fact Check http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/bill_mccollum. It's bad when you can't trust the Judicial System and the Judges, who are taking Bribes, we have to watch them now, what the he.., going on in America, the Judges don't have any honor, Did they forget the Oath they took, they better remember when they sell the soul to the devil that's it. We will be watching.
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optimist7
05:15 PM on 05/16/2010
The Supreme Justices sold out during the Clinton administration, and sealed the deal in 2000. Many Judges in lower courts have long had no honor, ruling in favor of major campaign contributors such as large law firms, banks, insurance companies, local corporations of all spots. Appellate Courts rarely overturn the rulings of the Courts below, and there is little or no justice. Lifetime appointments of both Federal Judges and the Supreme Court Justices should be changed and limited to a term of no more than twenty years. The Constitution remains the same, unless amended, but issues change from generation to generation, and shelter in an ivory tower is not conducive to recognizing the impact of the issues being litigated on the society and its citizens.
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Andrew Belcourt
12:23 PM on 05/15/2010
I dont think anyone would disagree that this bill could have been stronger or havehad some significant changes in it. But the notion that this bill is going away anytime soon is nonsensical. You may want it to go away and some GOP candidates are going to pander to that idea but it is not going to happen. Like it or not this is the framework that our healthcare system is going to be built and improved upon.
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gnorrfa
emitte lucem et veritatem
11:36 AM on 05/15/2010
anyone watch the winter olympics in vancouver? vancouver is in canada, which has had healthcare for over 40 years. did you notice that canada is NOT a communist state? gawd what ignorance!
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siamao
12:49 AM on 05/16/2010
Sometimes the most astute remarks contain the fewest words when they contain a visual
image which is available in all our memory banks. So, I fan you for that, gnorrfa, coz I sure
didn't see any signs of communal governance in the country which hosted the Winter Olympics,
plus I noticed that those Canadians appear to be an amazingly hardy, healthy bunch of folks.

Hope you return the fan so we can continue networking on this issue.
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
10:38 AM on 05/15/2010
Oh god I hope there is a going back. This debacle of a law was literally written by the health care insurance industry http://fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/03/29/baucus-thanks-wellpoint-vp-liz-fowler-for-writing-health-care-bill/#Respond It leaves 20 million plus with NOTHING. It forces 32 million to buy crappy private insurance with insanely weak protections. Insurance companies can still deny coverage for people with pre-existing conditions if the companies are willing to eat the fines, $100 a day, $36,500 for a year. My brother works with chemotheraphy drugs. Treatment for cancer with chemo will run you $40 K minimum. Companies will just eat the fines. Nothing prevents the companies from increasing premiums. Obama protected his campaign contributors from hospitals, Big Pharma and the health insurance industry. He killed the Public Option. That is when he lost my vote. We can go back and we should. Single payer, Medicare for All or a Public Option. People are more important than profits.
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Andrew Belcourt
12:37 PM on 05/15/2010
This "debacle" of bill was never coined as being the final or end product but the starting point to build upon. The point was to get the pre-exisiting condition language into the bill. If the penalities need to be diluted down to get a Ben Nelson or Joe Lieberman vote to get it through. You do it because strengthening the bill is easier once it is passed. It wont be long before one of the progressive members of the senate picks up on your point and writes some language to increase the fine from 100$ a day to 1000$ a day. Its good politics. Its the kind of fight that the Democrats want. Which GOP memeber do you think is really going to want to be seen protecting the insurance industry against pre-existing conditions. I am sure that parts of this bill were written this way specifically for winning easy political fights in the future because everyone is Washington is playing politics all of the time.
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henrypapillon
Mitt--free up the last 9 years' taxes
10:24 AM on 05/15/2010
I would have to agree with Rendell. There was a time and place for getting involved in shaping the future. The immature Republicans chose to pout in a corner while the program was shaped instead of participating. Now the chance of getting this totally repealed is very slim.
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springsm
10:05 AM on 05/15/2010
No but since it is all they have, the Obstructionists will work this to the nth degree all summer in order to stir the base of the Party of NO. They know they can't go back, but it is still a simmering subject..so that is what they will do. Play in the sandbox with the same rhetoric. Ugly people.
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hotbarb2614
proud military mother
08:45 PM on 05/14/2010
It's not a government run program if it were it would be Medicare.
08:40 PM on 05/14/2010
It's kind of hard to run a gov't program if Congress doesn't approve money for it.
trish333
Tea will be served in 2012. Lemon or sugar?
11:30 PM on 05/14/2010
Exactly. Defund that dog.
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Manhattanite
08:37 PM on 05/14/2010
Of course, there's no going back. Only the GOP wants to go back in time... to the robber barons' era... Talk about living in the past!
09:51 PM on 05/14/2010
as if socialism is brand new...
"Failure, taste it again for the first time."
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eddw88
12:58 AM on 05/15/2010
Love you socialism experts who don't know the first thing about it.
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Manhattanite
02:00 AM on 05/15/2010
Sure! I guess you'll refuse those socialist Social Security and Medicare programs when you are eligible for them... And I guess you don't drive on those socialist highways, take your kids to those socialist public libraries, and do not want those socialist police and fire departments. Etc... Etc...
08:17 PM on 05/14/2010
Some claim that they don't want health care insurance mandated because it infringes on their "freedoms" but they've been okay with, or at least tolerated, mandated car insurance. At the same time they don't like freeloaders (esp. the "reasonably suspicious") who show up at our Emergency Rooms because it increases the price of health care services to us all. Yes it does. But the solution, in lieu of the public option, is mandated health care insurance. Governor Rendell is right, we've crossed the Rubicon. There ought not be any going back. Not in a responsible country.
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siamao
12:53 AM on 05/16/2010
Thank you, S Valley. You've spelled it out in very few words, and I do appreciate that,
so I fan you.

Hope to receive a return fan so we can continue to support the health insurance
mandate through mutual dialogue.
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Marie Russell-Barker
Grandmother
05:26 PM on 05/14/2010
Governor Rendell, is right, why what is all the fuss about the Health Care Bill, it is true each of us would have liked to have it go further than it did. But to actually go to court to get it picked apart is ludicrous the Republican have demonized the Health Bill so much until those who would receive the best benefit from it are crying fouled. We who wanted it are going to keep it! Those of you who receive Medicare should be jumping for joy, but instead of reading for yourself you allow those who are disgruntle with the President talk you into thinking other wise. Wake up can't you see that they are playing politic they wanted him to fail on the Health Care Bill just as Clinton did. We should be fighting for every Democrat who put their jobs on the line for us. Not a Republican voted for this bill, but if it was the insurances companies bill (like the one Bush Passed) they would be all for it. Money not you remember MONEY!
09:58 PM on 05/14/2010
aaah, the minority have spoken! congratulations to the 36% who want it...you still have a government that does not listen to the people. Good luck with that in the future. If you havent noticed, all socialist states fail...and if it isnt repealed, you'll find out why.

Margaret Thatcher said it "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money".

Let's be like the EU and crash! I cant wait to become like the old USSR when it failed, and America turns into a giant bread line.
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04:40 AM on 05/15/2010
Do you have anything positive to say about the United States of America?

Who would you like to be President today?
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
10:39 AM on 05/15/2010
Obama Care is not socialism, get you head out of the sand and do some research.
04:09 PM on 05/14/2010
Rendell is clueless...Healthcare reform in it's current Obama form will be dead by 2012....
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Blak
Yes..I know my Micro-bio is empty.
08:07 PM on 05/14/2010
Curious as to why you say so....
doinaheckuvanutjob
Monsanto stole my micro-bio & put in GMO's
08:55 PM on 05/14/2010
Really? What will replace it? More of the same Denialcare, and vouchers? Of course, you can't be serious with your amateur partisan posting.
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03:49 PM on 05/14/2010
The Rubicon has not been crossed. The boat has been launched but it still has a lot of perils to face before the crossing is complete.
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HappyBalance
People BEFORE Profits
10:40 AM on 05/15/2010
Funny it left 22 million behind on the shore.
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Andrew Belcourt
12:41 PM on 05/15/2010
Is there another boat coming? This one is full and there are still some people left on the island!
03:17 PM on 05/14/2010
There is almost never a way to go back on entitlements.
trish333
Tea will be served in 2012. Lemon or sugar?
03:55 PM on 05/14/2010
There is if the entitlement is unsustainable and taxpayers are paying for it before the benefits actually take effect.
10:01 PM on 05/14/2010
and when the majority of taxpayers didnt want it in the first place, but was pushed through by a progressive run house and senate.

if progressives lose election in Nov, and GOP dont repeal it...I bet $5 you see a revolt.
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optimist7
05:05 PM on 05/16/2010
Medicare and Medicaid are currently unsustainable, but much of the hew and cry has been about not touching Medicare. You'd probably banish Medicaid, but without some sort of reform, how would you propose to sustain Medicare for all those Tea Partiers? Sell insurance across state lines? - which is impractical because each state has its own Department of Insurance and its own regulations. The outcome would be insurance along the lines of credit cards, with insurance carriers operating in states most "friendly" to their profits. What was the other Republican solution that was impractical? Who says taxpayers are paying for it?
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jcaunter
Profile: schizoid, INTJ, IQ145
02:49 PM on 05/14/2010
Kill the mandate, and I'll support your "health care" "reform". Until then, I'm more liable to vote for a stinking Republican who will promise repealing it than any spineless, soulless Democrat.

Real reform is single payer; instead we were given garbage. We will remember.
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rigmoten
Occupy the Micro-bio.
02:53 PM on 05/14/2010
Voting for a Republican to get a single payer system has as much logic as playing pocket pool to develop cold fusion.
correctingerrors
Real micro-bio censored by HuffPost, as usual
09:44 PM on 05/14/2010
I laughed HARD! Fanned!
10:03 PM on 05/14/2010
it will become single payer regardless, the private sector will not be able to support the cost...

of course the progressives know this...not rocket science
03:06 PM on 05/14/2010
I agree with you about single payer. It's the only real anwer. However, if the mandate is the sticking point for you, you might be interested to see just how much of a non-mandate the mandate is. There are basically no penalties for ignoring it.

One thing for sure, Republicans will never give you any meaningful reform on health care. Haven't you figured that out?
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springsm
10:09 AM on 05/15/2010
I don't care if anybody refuses to have health insurance. But I do resent that they think that we will pick up the tab if needed. A person should sign a paper saying that they don't have insurance but will be fully responsible for all costs for medical/hospital charges. FULLY responsible.