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Giant Oil Plumes Found In Gulf Depths

AP/Huffington Post   First Posted: 05/16/10 10:10 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:30 PM ET

Gulf Oil Plumes

ROBERT, La. -- Oil from a blown-out well is forming huge underwater plumes below a visible slick in the Gulf of Mexico, scientists said as BP wrestled for a third day Sunday with its latest contraption for slowing the nearly month-old gusher. One of the plumes is "as large as 10 miles long, 3 miles wide and 300 feet thick in spots," the New York Times reported. "The discovery is fresh evidence that the leak from the broken undersea well could be substantially worse than estimates that the government and BP have given."

BP, the largest oil and gas producer in the U.S., has been unable to thread a tube into the leak to siphon the crude to a tanker, it's third approach to stopping or reducing the spill on the ocean floor nearly a mile below the surface. Engineers remotely steering robot submersibles were trying again Sunday to fit the tube into a breach in a seafloor pipe, BP said.

Oil has been spewing since the rig Deepwater Horizon exploded April 20, killing 11 people and sinking two days later. The government shortly afterward estimated the spill at 210,000 gallons – or 5,000 barrels -- a day, a figure that has since been questioned by some scientists who fear it could be far more. BP executives have stood by the estimate while acknowledging there's no way to know for sure.

The Times noted:

BP has resisted entreaties from scientists that they be allowed to use sophisticated instruments at the ocean floor that would give a far more accurate picture of how much oil is really gushing from the well.


"The answer is no to that," a BP spokesman, Tom Mueller, said on Saturday. "We're not going to take any extra efforts now to calculate flow there at this point. It's not relevant to the response effort, and it might even detract from the response effort."

BP also owns a rig that operated with incomplete and inaccurate engineering documents, which one official warned could "lead to catastrophic operator error," records and interviews show.

Two months before the Deepwater Horizon accident, 19 members of Congress called on the agency that oversees offshore oil drilling to investigate a whistle-blower's complaints about the BP-owned Atlantis, which is stationed in 7,070 feet of water more than 150 miles south of New Orleans.

The Associated Press has learned that an independent firm hired by BP substantiated the complaints in 2009 and found that the company was violating its own policies by not having completed engineering documents on board the Atlantis when it began operating in 2007.

Word of huge submerged oil plumes, meanwhile, raised the specter of more damage to the ecologically rich Gulf. It also adds to questions about when large amounts of crude might hit shore.

"It's just a matter of time ... and the first significant amount of oil is going to show up around the U.S," said Hans Graber, director of the University of Miami's satellite sensing facility, who has been tracking the oil slick.

Researchers from the National Institute for Undersea Science and Technology said Saturday they had detected the underwater oil plumes at depths between just beneath the surface to more than 4,000 feet.

Three or four large plumes have been found, at least one that is 10 miles long and a mile wide, said Samantha Joye, a marine science professor at the University of Georgia.

Researchers Vernon Asper and Arne Dierks said in Web posts that the plumes were "perhaps due to the deep injection of dispersants which BP has stated that they are conducting." BP has won government approval to use chemicals on the oil near where it is gushing to break it up before it rises to the surface.

The researchers were also testing the effects of large amounts of subsea oil on oxygen levels in the water. The oil can deplete oxygen in the water, harming plankton and other tiny creatures that serve as food for a wide variety of sea critters.

Oxygen levels in some areas have dropped 30 percent, and should continue to drop, Joye said.

"It could take years, possibly decades, for the system to recover from an infusion of this quantity of oil and gas," Joye said. "We've never seen anything like this before. It's impossible to fathom the impact."

Joye's lab was waiting for the research boat to return so a team of scientists can test about 75 water samples and 100 sediment samples gathered during the voyage. Researchers plan to go back out in about a month and sample the same areas to see if oil and oxygen levels have worsened.

BP has been unable to stop the gusher with huge blowout preventers on the well or by putting a 100-tone box above the flow to trap and siphon it to a tanker on the surface. The latest effort, inserting a mile-long pipe into the largest of two leaks, hit a snag Saturday.

BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said one piece of equipment, called the framework, had to be brought to the surface and adjusted to fit with the tube.

The framework holds a pipe and stopper. If it works, the tube could capture more than three-quarters of the leak. BP also must contend with a smaller leak that's farther away.

One expert said BP's latest idea seems to have the best chance for success so far. Inserting a pipe into the oil gusher would be easy at the surface, said Ed Overton, a LSU professor of environmental studies. But using robots in 5,000 feet of water with oil rushing out of the pipe makes things much more difficult.

"It's something like threading the eye of a needle. But that can be tough to do up here. And you can imagine how hard it would be to do it down there with a robot," Overton said.

BP is also drilling a relief well that is considered the permanent solution to stopping the leak. It's about halfway done and still months away from being completed. The company also is still considering using a smaller containment dome known as a "top hat," as well as a "junk shot," in which golf balls and rubber would be inserted to try to clog the leak.

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Associated Press writers Ramit Plushnick-Masti in Houston; Noaki Schwartz in Los Angeles; Janet McConnaughey near Fort Jackson; Jason Dearen in New Orleans; Erica Werner, Matthew Daly and Frederic J. Frommer in Washington, and Melinda Deslatte in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, contributed to this report.

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ROBERT, La. -- Oil from a blown-out well is forming huge underwater plumes below a visible slick in the Gulf of Mexico, scientists said as BP wrestled for a third day Sunday with its latest contraptio...
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12:48 PM on 05/28/2010
Can't believe that BP was allowed to use toxic chemicals to disperse the oil....did anyone think it would be easier on mother nature? Am outraged that once again man is destroying mother nature with greed..
03:06 PM on 05/21/2010
Got to find some way to blame Bush and Chaney ,only trouble with that Bush hasn't lived in the White House for almost two years , dang it there just has to be a way ! May be we could blame it on Korea , anybody but the elusterous grand potentate , he don't take the blame for anything !
04:53 PM on 05/17/2010
As bad as the oil leak/spill is. Let's not forget that 11 lives were lost because of this disaster. Criminal charges should be brought !
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tominnyc
04:18 PM on 05/17/2010
Hey are we supposed to be calling Transocean too?

What are we going to do with the corporations saying don't worry about it and getting away with them telling scientists not to come close.

Who has been in charge of handing our our leases?! Mr. Oins under whom the girls were having sex with company exec.'s (you know those Bush-years stories of the coke parties etc) well Mr. Oins the chief of Leasing throughout these past years is set to retire he says now what a surprise
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tominnyc
04:14 PM on 05/17/2010
FELLOW CITIZENS -- BP IS resisting requestss from scientists from NOAA and others to get closer and help solve this. IT IS GAINING AND COMING TO THE EAST COAST PLEASE UNDERSTAND>
"The answer is no to that [request by USA NOAA] said BP rep. Tom Muller dictating to the USA what we can do to save our soil and oceans.
*****************CALL TO ACTION CALL/FAX BP offices here are the contacts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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900 East Benson Boulevard
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AK 99508-4254
Phone: +1 907 561 5111

Chicago
28100 Torch Parkway
Warrenville
IL 60555
Phone: +1 630 836 5000

Houston
501 Westlake Park Boulevard
Houston
TX 77079
Phone: +1 281 366 2000

La Palma
4 Centerpointe Drive
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California
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Illinois
BP Chemicals
28100 Torch Park Way
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Phone: +1 877 701 2726

BP Solar
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Phone: +1 301 698 4200
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03:35 PM on 05/17/2010
Send in the independent experts -- and in droves. If BP had any claims at all to the ocean floor, it has forfeitted them with their serial incompetence and with the catstropic damages this has caused. BP owes the world for bungling, not the other way around. We want the facts, we want real solutions, and we want those responsible to pay.

[And enough with the solutions concerned with recovering oil from the flow. Just cap the darned thing and take the loss. Enough's enough, and we owe them nothing for their self-interested $crew-ups.They and the other oil companies need to understand that there is a real price for flouting the rules and for lax oversight. No more slap on the wrists and laughable fines.]
01:53 PM on 05/17/2010
The Interior Department was expected to host an event today to honor BP and other companies for its safety efforts, but the agency has changed its mind. The Interior Department’s Minerals Management Services was expected to host the event today and BP was up for two awards at the event. One of the awards was for “outstanding safety and pollution prevention performance.” Obviously, that seems like a sick joke now that we have 5,000 barrels of oil a day being pumped into the Gulf of Mexico from the leaking oil well.

According to the Minerals Management Services, the agency has dedicated far too many resources to the cleanup efforts after the Transocean oil rig explosion, and will not be able to go ahead with the event. Obviously, with the size of the spill in the Gulf of Mexico as it is now, fishing communities facing destruction, and no end to cleanup efforts in sight, it would have been ridiculous to give BP any kind of award at all.

The award is also probably the last thing on BPs mind. The company announced this week that it would pay for all the cleanup costs associated with the massive oil leak in the Gulf Mexico.

As a footnote, the big winner of the SAFE award at last year’s event was Transocean.

http://www.themaritimelawyer.com/bp-will-not-receive-safety-award-this-year-after-all/
Apparently, up until the accident BP was in good stead with the regime!
12:45 PM on 05/17/2010
God Bless the TriState Bird Rescue people. They were onsite right away.
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sama3033
10:58 AM on 05/17/2010
Yeah, how's that green PR thing working for ya?

HOUSTON — A Washington-based research group says two BP refineries in the U.S. account for 97 percent of "egregious willful" violations given by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

The study by the Center for Public Integrity says the violations were found in the last three years in BP's Texas City refinery and another plant in Toledo, Ohio. In 2005, 15 people were killed in an explosion at the Texas City refinery.

Deputy Assistant Secretary of Labor for OSHA Jordan Barab says BP has a "systemic safety problem." He told The Associated Press BP has not adequately addressed the issues, despite being fined more than $87 million.

Assistant Secretary of Labor for OSHA David Michaels says similar problems are pervasive throughout the U.S. petroleum industry.
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worktheoracle
10:55 AM on 05/17/2010
I just had a brainwave and it goes like this:

Drill a hole into the side of the pipe with robotic instruments, big enough for a winch cable. Thread a winch cable through that hole and out through the main opening of the pipe and have the robotic device pull that winch up to the surface and attach some manner of an efficient plug. Retract the winch and pull the plug into the mouth of the pipe, using the robotic device to secure the winch from the outside with nut and bolt ready on the cable. This procedure could be repeated at varied lengths from the open end of the pipe, allowing for a team of plugs. The nut and bolt would secure the flow from the drilled holes. How would this not work?
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sama3033
11:22 AM on 05/17/2010
The pipe is a mile down - they can't winch it to the surface - it would have to be a mile long and I think when the rig went up in flames it mangled the machinery and pipes below. This is crazy stuff. The possibilities of something going wrong were obvious to me - it was just a matter of time before something like this happened whilst drilling in deep water. Obviously serious change is needed to prevent something like this happening again and it's going to be god-awful expensive. Some sort of containment dome needs to be in place on the sea floor automatically when doing this sort of drilling. The oil companies should have done this on their own instead of waiting for a catastrophe to force them to do it, but no: Exxon is still resisting paying up for the Exxon Valdez and the lives it ruined.
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worktheoracle
11:33 AM on 05/17/2010
i didn't mean winching the pipe to the surface, i meant winching a broken cone of heavy plugs down into the mouth using holes we drilled through the side along the extent of the pipe ~ that way we impede the flow and thin out the pressure ~ then we have a better chance at having the plugs that fit snug and serve as full stoppers to hold their place with that reduced pressure ~ that's the idea
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woody7
Always a Dem, but..............
10:05 AM on 05/17/2010
BP doesn't own the "ocean" or the seabed, if we need to send scientist to the area, just do so. If not mistaken isn't this a "maritime" accident, and we should be in charge not BP.
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SeenItBefore
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09:45 AM on 05/17/2010
It just occurred to me... we will never get rid of BP in our territorial waters, the world's thirst for oil simply will not allow it. But...

Force BP and other multinationals who strip us of natural resources to finance the development and construction of alternate energy sources. Say, 10% of their profits from selling our stuff and put that back into sustainable power generation.
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hgovernick
09:49 AM on 05/17/2010
That's cool. While we're at it, why not force any company who wishes to extract our resources to sell those resources exclusively to us? Why should our oil, limited enough as it is, be sold to China?
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woody7
Always a Dem, but..............
10:02 AM on 05/17/2010
This why I can't understand the "drill baby drill" mentality, it takes years before it is pumped and it does not necessarily come here.
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LastAngryWoman
waiting for godot
11:01 AM on 05/17/2010
I don't know. Some Canadians feel that way about our lovely tar pits in Alberta.
Guess who we export most of it to? Yup. You.
Cause you know, tar pits are not exactly welcome in the States themselves. Apparently there are environmental issues. So...so far...no tar pits like the ones we have going in Canada. Not to that scale, anyway.
But our Fearless Leader (friend to Sarah Palin et al) loves his tar pits. And loves the profits. And loves that he can sell it to the States for a profit.
I find it all very weird.
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swords-r-us
10:36 AM on 05/17/2010
The truth is the oil leases are basically free to BP and other companies, which means we are heavily subsidizing the product (there are obviously extraction, refinery and fulfillment costs) that the oil company then sells back to us at a huge profit. That is the logic behind 'drill baby drill'. Once again proof that these single sell organisms, like Palin, are not only voting against their interests, but being hoodwinked by multinationals.
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09:44 AM on 05/17/2010
And what potential role did the dispersants play in these under water plumes?
But lets not get bogged down with science and let the 'experts" try to cap this leak with a metal box.
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keramos
Guns don't kill, bullets do. Tax the bullets
12:12 PM on 05/17/2010
I couldn't say what role they might play in the underwater plumes, probably not so much as pressures and currents do. However, they've pumped some 400 K plus gallons of these into the gulf and I'll just bet they'll take a nice juicy tax write off for this bit of public minded service.
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disgustedwithall
USA not free/safer if citizen requires gun for it.
03:24 PM on 05/17/2010
There also exists some very steep temp gradient, thermocline's down there, and they might be strong enough to do boundary layer trap of the oil..
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SaddamIt
I have just one thing to say...
09:34 AM on 05/17/2010
It's up to US to tell BP to stop the BS !!!
09:25 AM on 05/17/2010
Not to worry

The Repubs have JEus lined up to suck up all the oil
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hgovernick
10:13 AM on 05/17/2010
It won't be too long before we'll all be able to walk on that water.
10:15 AM on 05/17/2010
H: Yes, but Jesus already has a plan for the ocean, which goes something like, "All living creatures in the sea will die, and the sea will turn to blood." Need I say more? I believe this is in Revelations. BP is a beast, a money grubbing monster, gobbling everything up for its bottom line and now people, sea life, and the planet are paying the price. Awful.
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hgovernick
10:19 AM on 05/17/2010
Of course, for true believers, the upside is that all of these tribulations only bring us nearer to the Father.