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Pakistani Court Demands Facebook BLOCKED Over Page Soliciting Images Of Mohammed

BABAR DOGAR   05/19/10 05:26 PM ET   AP

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LAHORE, Pakistan — Pakistan's government ordered Internet service providers to block Facebook on Wednesday amid anger over a page that encourages users to post images of Islam's Prophet Muhammad.

The page on the social networking site has generated criticism in Pakistan and elsewhere because Islam prohibits any images of the prophet. The government took action after a group of Islamic lawyers won a court order Wednesday requiring officials to block Facebook until May 31.

By Wednesday evening, access to the site was sporadic, apparently because Internet providers were implementing the order.

The Facebook page at the center of the dispute – "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day!" – encourages users to post images of the prophet on May 20 to protest threats made by a radical Muslim group against the creators of "South Park" for depicting Muhammad in a bear suit during an episode earlier this year.

In the southern city of Karachi, about 2,000 female students rallied demanding that Facebook be banned for tolerating the page. Several dozen male students held a rally nearby, with some holding signs urging Islamic holy war against those who blaspheme the prophet.

"We are not trying to slander the average Muslim," said the information section of the Facebook page, which was still accessible Wednesday morning. "We simply want to show the extremists that threaten to harm people because of their Mohammad depictions that we're not afraid of them. That they can't take away our right to freedom of speech by trying to scare us into silence."

A series of cartoons of the prophet published in a Danish newspaper in 2005 sparked violent protests by Muslims around the world, including Pakistan, and death threats against the cartoonists.

Facebook said Wednesday it is investigating.

"While the content does not violate our terms, we do understand it may not be legal in some countries," the company said in a statement. "In cases like this, the approach is sometimes to restrict certain content from being shown in specific countries."

It remains to be seen how successful the move will be at keeping people in Pakistan from accessing the site. Some countries, such as China, permanently ban Facebook. But citizens often have little trouble working their way around the ban using proxy servers and other means.

In an attempt to respond to public anger over the Facebook controversy, the Pakistani government ordered Internet service providers in the country to block the page Tuesday, said Khurram Ali, a spokesman for the Pakistan Telecommunications Authority.

But the Islamic Lawyers' Forum asked the Lahore High Court on Wednesday to order the government to fully block Facebook because it allowed the page to be posted in the first place, said the deputy attorney general of Punjab province, Naveed Inayat Malik.

The court complied with the request and ordered the government to block the site until the end of May, Malik said.

Lawyers outside the courtroom hailed the ruling, chanting "Down with Facebook."

Later in the day, the telecommunications authority ordered all Internet service providers to block Facebook, it said in a statement.

Pakistan's minister of religious affairs, Hamid Saeed Kazmi, said the country's ban was only a temporary solution and suggested the government organize a conference of Muslim countries to figure out ways to prevent the publication of images of the prophet, which have caused backlashes among Muslim populations.

On Tuesday, an alleged al-Qaida militant detained in Iraq said he had talked to friends about attacking Danish and Dutch teams at the World Cup in South Africa next month.

"We discussed the possibility of taking revenge for the insults of the prophet by attacking Denmark and Holland," Abdullah Azam Saleh al-Qahtani told The Associated Press in an interview arranged by Iraqi authorities. "The goal was to attack the Danish and the Dutch teams and their fans."

In the Netherlands, an anti-Islam party has become the country's fastest growing political movement. Its leader, Geert Wilders, calls the Quran a "fascist book" and wants it banned in the Netherlands. His 2008 short film offended many Muslims by juxtaposing Quranic verses with images of terrorism by Islamic radicals.

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Associated Press writers Munir Ahmed in Islamabad, Ashraf Khan in Karachi and Barbara Ortutay in New York contributed to this report.

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07:58 AM on 05/20/2010
I thought maybe it was because terrorists or Al Qaeda or somebody like that has tons of pages on Facebook. But I guess they didn't care about that part.
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kurotenshi
08:22 AM on 05/20/2010
They only care about humiliation. It is a nation of over entitled little boys.
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Abdi S
05:51 AM on 05/20/2010
I believe every muslim nations have right to block websites insulting Islam, and go ahead draw it but facebook will loose users from those nations. Many muslim populations will boycott anti-islam western countries products. I mean I know those business depend on muslim countries buying there products but they can loose customers and business. The relations between nations that ban hijab will see reaction from muslim countires especially with oil industry ones or bigger than that. Muslim nations will not cause violance such as terrorist attack but it will respond peaceful without any harms. I do believe peaceful respond will trigger attentions from nations and seek solution to all the religious drama out there.
07:59 AM on 05/20/2010
This is exactly why we need to get off oil as soon as possible. So we aren't held hostage to people who want women back in the middle ages.
05:25 AM on 05/20/2010
Isn't the government supposed to be promoting peace instead of hatred?
03:25 AM on 05/20/2010
I did delete my Facebook account yesterday. Over its history, Facebook has taken down hundreds, if not thousands of pages for 'violating its terms and conditions', including court orders from France . A comfortable social environment is conducive to social networking -- just like all free speech is not fit for purpose on a plane or a crowded theater.

I don't mind someone making any type of offensive anti-Muslim or Nazi imagery and put it on his little site somewhere. But when a global social platform gives him/her access to millions of users worldwide, it is an enabling platform -- and as such has to provide a certain environment for others.

While Facebook has taken down many, many pages, it has yet to take down the one about the 'death prayer' for Obama -- saying that it does not break its rules. It is clear that it is courting controversy for controversy's sake.

As for me, I do not need to be on a platform that provides a platform for hate speech. As simple as that. http://www.akber.org/2010/05/good-bye-facebook-hello-diaspora.html
05:25 AM on 05/20/2010
good for facebook
02:14 AM on 05/20/2010
What's funny about this is that the Quran doesn't forbid images of Mohammad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4674864.stm

In fact Mohammad has been depicted in various branches of Islam since the 7th century.

http://zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/islamic_mo_face_hidden/

Very good overview of it all -

http://www.religionfacts.com/islam/things/depictions-of-muhammad-in-islamic-art.htm

Summary - from above link -
The Qur'an does not prohibit making images, only worshipping them.
Hadith clearly and consistently prohibits all images of any living being, with special mention of punishment for painters.
Neither the Qur'an nor hadith mention depictions of Muhammad.

The hadith prohibiting images do not call for Muslims to take action against those who make images, but instead say that God will punish them severely at the Day of Judgment.
The main reason given for not depicting Muhammad is to avoid the temptation to worship the image.
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The prohibition on images comes from the hadiths - in which Mohammad states that ALL picture makers will be condemned to hell and scorned on judgement day when they are asked if they can make their pictures "come to life". Drawings of humans and animals are forbidden, and will prevent angels from entering any house that has pictures. Thus movies, photos,drawings, all pictures are banned by some scholars.

http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthread.php?130528-Photos

I guess a lot of us, including muslims, may be going to hell for picture making.
05:28 AM on 05/20/2010
well, the current totalitarian version practiced by most muslims is always looking for excuses to intimidate non-muslims. If prophet mohammad was not allowed to be depicted in paintings then islam would never have spread in certain cultures east of arabia, such as in Iran, India, etc
06:18 AM on 05/20/2010
Most Muslims? You're talking about a religion followed by over a billion people. Roughly 21% of people on the Earth are Muslims. That makes it the second largest religion in the world behind Christianity. Within about 40 years, it is expected to become the number one religion in the world due to it's rapid growth. That would mean that you assume half a billion people, or about 11% of the Earth's population share the same beliefs as the radical fundamentalists. Well, I hate to break it to you, but it's not the case. The radicals are a very small minority. Most Muslims, such as in places like Indonesia which is the country with the largest Muslim population, are very moderate. In places like Tajikistan, which is right next to Afghanistan, Muslims are so secular that only about 10% of urban Muslims observe dietary restrictions or bother with the daily prayers. In the countryside, the number is only about a third. Even if you want to assume that people in the Middle-East are more radical than other Muslims, you are still left with the fact that the Middle-East only accounts for about 20% of the world's Muslim population, most of which are quite moderate. Muslims are not as you assume.
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Bruce4Change
02:08 AM on 05/20/2010
I am so sick of these nuts and their beef with Mohammed’s image being shown. I drew Mohammed a stick figure on a sheet of paper. oooo
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Bruce4Change
02:09 AM on 05/20/2010
(as a)
08:04 AM on 05/20/2010
LOL
I dare to laugh!
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overcat
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01:52 AM on 05/20/2010
So Pakistan chooses to opt out of letting anyone in their country choose to participate in Facebook. That's right, strike a great blow against the infidels. Oh wait a minute...I guess this will have no effect on the infidels, will it? Oh right, it's only Pakistanis who will be affected....Well, let Pakistan have the society they choose to have, those who don't like it, like MILLIONS before them, can just bail out and leave the theocracy to the fundamentalists.
06:42 AM on 05/20/2010
Theocracy? Pakistan is a democracy... and hardly fundamental. It's the regions bordering Afghanistan that are in turmoil and largely due to the fact that it's inhabitants share the ethnicity with the majority of Afghans (Pashtoon). The US knew the border b/w the two countries was porous and what the subsequent results would be for Pakistan before invading Afghanistan. But that's for another conversation so i won't mention the drone attacks here (oops)...

So you have a problem if they protest peacefully (banning is a boycott and by no means a threat) and you have a problem if they turn violent. What is a Muslim to do to stand up for something they hold dear to them? I say let them ban it. It's their prerogative...
08:13 AM on 05/20/2010
It's not a theocracy?
"American officials have privately backed Pakistan's "Sharia law for peace" deal with Taliban militants in the Swat Valley "
So you say any atheist, agnostic, Jew, Christian, Buddhist or Hindu can live freely and without fear in Pakistan?
09:34 AM on 05/20/2010
you must be joking. Pakistan a democracy? There has never been a single peaceful transfer of power in Pakistan.

And its hardly fundamental? Now seriously.. All the jehadi terrorists are based out of Pakistan. It continues to harbor terrorists which launch attacks on NATO forces and in India.
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porsche996
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01:38 AM on 05/20/2010
I didn't know Muhammad even had a Facebook page....let's poke him.
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Talossa
Not all liberals are silly.
01:14 AM on 05/20/2010
That face covering up the image of the flag... is it Muhammad?

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/167290/thumbs/s-PAKISTAN-FACEBOOK-large.jpg
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porsche996
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01:39 AM on 05/20/2010
I think you're right...that's either a tea boy I once knew...or Muhammad.
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elan4444
01:04 AM on 05/20/2010
On one hand, you have some astonishing things being done at the CERN lab in Switzerland/France, experiments that may explain the origin of the universe, then on the other hand, you have looney tunes Taliban types doing something amazingly asinine like threatening the Danish and Dutch teams while they are at the World Cup. It's like, one of these entities is still climbing out of the ooze, and it isn't the folks in Switzerland.
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Talossa
Not all liberals are silly.
01:17 AM on 05/20/2010
Fanned and faved.
12:50 AM on 05/20/2010
For its next act, Pakistan is going to ban Huffingtonpost for covering this story....
06:44 AM on 05/20/2010
Dumb statement...
10:02 AM on 05/20/2010
Hardly. Just read the news, Pakistan banned youtube today. The precedence is there for them to ban anything.
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12:27 AM on 05/20/2010
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/missmarchhare/dome.jpg

My satirical depiction of The Prophet Mohammed.

As an America, as a free person, as a person that doesn't subscribe to any belief system but doesn't care if others do so long as they let me live in peace, this is my statement, not about what I feel for Islam, but what I feel for the small minority that are willing to threaten violence over something as silly as a cartoon made by people who don't believe and have no obligation to follow Islamic custom or dictate. I wish peace on all beliefs, I wish tolerance for all opinions, and I say lighten up, if you don't like it don't look at it and no harm done.
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12:45 AM on 05/20/2010
I would like to add that my Google search for "Super Muhammad World" yielded no results, so if you want to create such a game with the character you drew, the door is open! :-)

Fanned & Faved, btw...
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MsMarchHare
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01:28 AM on 05/20/2010
my son was quite impressed with my photoshop skills...as for a game....hmmmmm...ya know, I hate first person exploder games
09:41 AM on 05/20/2010
congrats! you have single handedly banned huffpost and photobucket from Pakistan... :D
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MsMarchHare
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03:56 PM on 05/20/2010
whoops.
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11:40 PM on 05/19/2010
Gonna be a bummer for the Farmville addicts.
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beckpod1
10:43 PM on 05/19/2010
They don't deserve Facebook...Facebook and the internet were invented by man to take us into the 21st century.....they should stop using cell phones...computers...computer games...
Go back to your caves...
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Talossa
Not all liberals are silly.
12:24 AM on 05/20/2010
They could just issue a fatwa against electricity, but then how would anyone find out about it?
10:16 PM on 05/19/2010
My first reaction was that the Pakistani government obviously must not believe in the separation of mosque and state but now I'm wondering if they aren't maybe trying to avert widespread rioting.
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12:48 AM on 05/20/2010
I think you hit the nail on the head. That country is built on a hair trigger.