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Obama Warns Arizona Immigration Law Could Be Applied In 'Discriminatory Fashion'

BEN FELLER   05/19/10 10:12 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — Confronting soaring frustration over illegal immigration, President Barack Obama on Wednesday condemned Arizona's crackdown and pushed instead for a federal fix the nation could embrace. He said that will never happen without Republican support, pleading: "I need some help."

In asking anew for an immigration overhaul, Obama showed solidarity with his guest of honor, Mexican President Felipe Calderon, who called Arizona's law discriminatory and warned Mexico would reject any effort to "criminalize migration." The United States and Mexico share a significant economic and political relationship that stands to be damaged the more the nations are at odds over immigration, which affects millions of people on both sides of the border.

Obama sought to show that he, too, is fed up with his own government's failure to fix a system widely seen as broken. He said that would require solving border security, employment and citizenship issues all at once – the kind of effort that collapsed in Congress just three years ago.

The president's stand underscored the forces working against him in this election year: the need for help from Republican critics, the impatience of states like Arizona after federal inaction, the pressure to show movement on a campaign promise, and the mood of the public disgusted by porous borders.

The Arizona law requires police to question people about their immigration status if there's reason to suspect they're in the country illegally, and it makes it a state crime to be in the U.S. illegally. People may be questioned about their status if they've been stopped by police who are in the process of enforcing another law.

The law will take effect July 29 unless legal challenges are successful. Almost twice as many people support it as those who oppose it, according to an Associated Press-GfK poll this month. It found that 42 percent favored it, 24 percent opposed it and another 29 percent said they were neutral.

Yet in a Rose Garden appearance with Calderon, Obama called the Arizona law "a misdirected expression of frustration." He expects to announce soon what action his government may take about it, once the Justice Department finishes reviewing whether the law violates civil rights.

"In the United States of America, no law-abiding person – be they an American citizen, a legal immigrant, or a visitor or tourist from Mexico – should ever be subject to suspicion simply because of what they look like," Obama said.

Calderon was upbeat about the chance of finding a fair, dignified way of dealing with migrants. He added: "Many of them, despite their significant contribution to the economy and to the society of the United States, still live in the shadows, and occasionally, as in Arizona, they even face discrimination."

The immigration theme dominated a day of pageantry and showy support for Calderon, who enjoyed a state visit with his wife, Margarita Zavala.

The Mexican president was treated to a grand welcome on the South Lawn in the morning. Wednesday night, 200 guests were invited for a state dinner in the East Room, followed by entertainment back on the lawn under cover of an enormous tent. Obama repeatedly offered U.S. support for Calderon's government, particularly in his aggressive fight against drug traffickers, a violent battle that has left roughly 23,000 people dead since the end of 2006.

On immigration, Obama's criticism of the Arizona law is easier than the fix he wants: getting his own party and Republicans to pass an immigration overhaul.

His plan calls improving border security, ensuring employers are held accountable if they try to hire undocumented workers or break other laws, and assigning a series of responsibilities on the millions of people living in the United States illegally. Those include requiring them to pay a penalty and back taxes, learn English and get in line toward becoming a legal resident and citizen of the country.

Republican President George W. Bush tried to get that the kind of package through Congress in his second term, once confidently telling reporters: "I'll see you at the bill signing." He never did. The effort collapsed on Capitol Hill in 2007, as critics charged that the measure amounted to amnesty for lawbreakers.

This time around, Obama said: "I'm actually confident that we can get it done."

But in a political tutorial on the path ahead, Obama said he didn't have the 60 votes he needs in the Senate to overcome vote-killing stall tactics. Democrats and independents hold 59 Senate seats. Obama said he will seek the Republican support he needs.

"It's my job to work with members of Congress to see that happen," the president said. Again, though, even he has questioned Congress' will this year.

Senate supporters have unveiled a framework as a starting point, but time is running short for any real action in 2010, frustrating in particular the many Hispanic voters who want progress. The outcome of fall elections could determine whether Congress takes up immigration next year.

Calderon will have a chance to make his case directly to U.S. lawmakers on Thursday during an address to Congress.

Meanwhile, Obama and Calderon emerged from their talks heralding expanded cooperation on trade, energy, intellectual property and student exchanges.

Obama reaffirmed his commitment to Calderon's offensive in the deadly drug wars, too.

"This is not just a problem in Mexico," Obama said. "It is a problem that the United States has to address. ... It is absolutely true that U.S. demand for drugs helps to drive this public safety crisis within Mexico and so we've got an obligation not to drive the demand side of the equation."

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noaxe397 07:58 PM on 05/19/2010
The primary state document AZ accepts to prove citizenship under this law is the drivers license.

First, 8 states still do not require proof of citizenship to get a DL.

Second, the DL is easily forged. Kids get forgeries to buy beer. The Mexican drug lords and smugglers with all their money can easily produce better and better forgeries.

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03:34 PM on 05/22/2010
One huge problem I see with this issue politically is that people are trying to make immigration reform into a left/right, liberal/conservative issue and it isn't. As has been pointed out, most people in the country think you should not be here illegally and if you are, you should pay some consequences. Most people agree everyone should have an ID, but I see people on both sides arguing about this. People on both sides get the panties in a twist about legalities and constitutionalities and they are all correct, but they keep arguing and painting the "other side" as either racist or nazi. This is why nothing gets done in this country, folks. Step back and bit and listen to the other side. We're all pretty much agreeing except for a couple of minor points. The right is being too hard-@$$ed and the left is being too whiny on this particular issue. And everyone is painting the other side with harsh and false generalizations.
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01:21 AM on 05/25/2010
exactly.
08:38 AM on 05/25/2010
I was hoping you'd read that one. :-)>
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theerrantsoul
02:41 PM on 05/26/2010
Agreed. I don't like the new law, and don't support it, but I like even less the fact that nobody's actually listening to each other. Immigration is a big problem, and needs to be fixed, period.

It seems like not just this, but EVERY public political issue becomes a left/right war. Instead of blindly parroting your respective party's viewpoint, and dismissing all opposition, why not ignore the idiot sensationalists on BOTH sides, and listen to the smart, forward-thinking Americans on both sides? When you get down to it, would it be better to have morons you agree with running our country, or to be governed by intelligent, moral people whose policies you disagree with? I'd rather take the latter, personally.
01:54 PM on 05/22/2010
Obama needs to get a crystal ball that didn't come from the dollar store.
12:43 PM on 05/22/2010
Why didn't Michelle just say: "Well, if your mommy followed the LAW she would have the papers she needs and you woulldn't have to worry about this"
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Zonie
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02:52 PM on 05/21/2010
Here's the trick....beyond the Arizona law....this issue is far bigger than anyone really thinks about.

What we are talking about is the US and Mexican govt are in collusion to provide slave labor. Mexico gets it's ethnic cleansing done, gets even with us for allowing Texas to become a state...and gets to get even for selling the southwest so cheaply after they got their bums kicked when they called their greatest general back to Mexico City to quell the unrest THERE.

We get slaves and people who have alot of resentment for us...as well as homesickness for what they have never had....Mexico.....so...they want to move Mexico here since they can't have Mexico in Mexico. They also bring a lot of really bad environmental attitudes, sexism, and other issues Americans of all color have a problem with;.

You got the recipe for war....
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talilah33
05:35 PM on 05/21/2010
How is it even allowed to be so silly and ignorant?
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Zonie
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08:39 PM on 05/21/2010
Well gee....We don't mind you at all...
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Zonie
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08:41 PM on 05/21/2010
".......the U.S.-controlled regime of the PRI (Institutional Revolutionary Party)...."

http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/239-october-2-is-not-forgotten-upsurge-and-massacre-in-mexico-1968-part-1-the-youth-revolt
07:11 PM on 05/21/2010
I took you seriously before. Now I can see your just yankin' folks around. Either that or you have some good friends with canibus sativa and psychedelics .
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Zonie
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08:37 PM on 05/21/2010
http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/239-october-2-is-not-forgotten-upsurge-and-massacre-in-mexico-1968-part-1-the-youth-revolt

It came out a few years back...2003 or 2005 or so....we gave em the guns....

Do a bit of reading....what I have said is not out of a hat....

I'm less wrong than you know....
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Zonie
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02:47 PM on 05/21/2010
Mexico...hahaha..is actually a place where regime change might do some good.

Venezuela used to be a lot like Mexico.

Ahem.

But as long as the corrupt mexican govt keeps supplying cheap labor....they can take all the wealth.

Do not forget who the richest man in the world is....and where he is.
He got there the same way ours did....slaves.
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Zonie
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02:32 PM on 05/21/2010
Why the mexican government can never be trusted....

There have been no major changes in the power structure....and if you are not familiar with this....then you should be.

Ask yourselves why your government cooperated with this as well.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/october/2/newsid_3548000/3548680.stm
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talilah33
10:39 AM on 05/21/2010
What is wrong with people..
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/308060/april-26-2010/the-word---docu-drama
Bill Kristol thinks that law will cause huge, horrible civil rights violation, BILL KRISTOL!

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-april-26-2010/law---border
Tom Tancredo thinks this bill goes to far. Tom Tancredo, for god's sake.
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02:43 PM on 05/21/2010
Does give you pause, no?

You see...this story has more to it.

Corruption in Mexico..corrupt, racist euro .elitists who wish to ethnically cleanse the country of mestizos.... in collusion with the slavers here....send their least educated and most impoverished mestizos here to work for slave wages. The mestizos bring what they love from the country they have been booted from and refuse to assimilate and begin to assert that this is their country....being they have no control in their own....they take American jobs and cause wage deflation....This leads to more clashes with Americans of all color....

Some of these individuals are criminals....the mexican govt aids and abets their hopscotching the border and frequently refuse cooperation because WE have a death penalty.
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talilah33
05:34 PM on 05/21/2010
Um..did you even watch the videos? They don't bite, you know! ;-)
Ha, yeah exactly, "refuse to assimilate". Ask any immigrant (from Mexico or wherever) one question about the constitution, they often know it much better than most Americans. Reminds me of another very funny video:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-may-6-2010/suspicious-behavior-on-cinco-de-mayo

"Take American jobs"...yeah, the ones Americans don't want to do. How can they even take jobs if they're illegal and have no papers? Maye American companies should stop hiring these people just because it's cheaper. You seem really prejudiced and misinformed.
07:21 PM on 05/21/2010
There's a conspiracy around every corner. While your watching this one there are 10 Venezuelans and 14 Colombians behind your fence just waiting.
06:05 PM on 05/20/2010
Great news. This sounds like the beginning of a process that will grant relief to the American people. This taught us that racism has not faded away, it's all the contrary. We need to fight for peoples rights and fights against hateful acts regardless of cost.
03:42 PM on 05/20/2010
enough talk do the job ...and in the mean while clean up the problems around the border
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ronkw
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03:37 PM on 05/20/2010
I have a plan to destroy America
In 2004, Richard D. Lamm, former governor of Colorado.....

If you want to grasp the severity of the situation read this one page

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50997
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10:57 PM on 05/20/2010
Why? Because 70 percent of those choosing not to obey our immigration law are Mexican Nationals.

We do not need "reform"....Every nation has it's policy on immigration. We do too. If you are not selected after you apply....you do not get to come. Period.

That's the way it works worldwide.

But Mexico's government choose to use us as a pressure valve to their corruption and failure to share the wealth....
07:18 PM on 05/21/2010
Maybe you could go down to the border and give your opinions to the border patrol. Or you could feed them. Or you could help build a fence. Or you could be a vigilante. Or you could go down to Mexico and straighten them out down there. Sounds like you have a good grip on all of the problems.
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10:59 PM on 05/20/2010
I goofed. The above post was meant for the fellow below.
02:51 PM on 05/20/2010
i simply don't understand why in the world is it that only Mexicans always get pointed at for being illegal immigrants??? When there are sooo many other different raises that come into the united states in an illegal way. No one has the right to discriminate against anyone because we are all the same no matter what skin color what clothes you wear what music you hear. But people just want to feel as if they have power and they may do but there is only one person that everyone is forgetting about and that is God because he is the only one that can judge us.
Although people want to believe in the law and all this other bs well believe it but take a minute and think about how you are hurting people that come here for a dream for a better life and just because they dont have the right documents they are going to be judge. Well I really hope that everyone is perfect.
Because there is a God and he sees everything and to him we are all the same and he loves those who are loving and caring to others no matter what raise, color,ext. so next time any one wants to critizise anyone just think are you perfect!!!
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10:59 PM on 05/20/2010
Why? Because 70 percent of those choosing not to obey our immigration law are Mexican Nationals.

We do not need "reform"....Every nation has it's policy on immigration. We do too. If you are not selected after you apply....you do not get to come. Period.

That's the way it works worldwide.

But Mexico's government choose to use us as a pressure valve to their corruption and failure to share the wealth....
04:57 PM on 05/22/2010
you have empathy and there are a lot of people who don't know what that means. And frankly, believe it is weak.
01:14 PM on 05/20/2010
Does Arizona Law Profile?

What my understanding is for a police stop in any state is, the police want to identify with some form of identification, and usually go to their computer data bank to find verification. If someone does not provide anything verifiable for identification the police will not let the detainee just walk away. This could be a wanted serial kill, and identity is crucial. Now if this detainee is in this country illegally he will not have any record of his/her history in any police database.

There is no profiling needed or done by the police, so no one is going to be detained without a legal enforcement of a law. This is the way the Arizona law is intended to operate.

Do you think if illegal immigration is given amnesty then all the ones in the country illegally will have citizen rights and can stay and the problem is over? Almost everyone in the world wants the protection and opportunity this county offers (even if they don't like Americans, they still want to get the gains we generously provide), and there will be a tsunami of illegal immigrants flooding this county. These illegal immigrants are not here because they are loyal to this country. Fact of the matter is, it should not even be called illegal immigration, instead, invasion.

We have more than enough legal Mexican/American legal’s to keep our lawns mowed, and to insure we have handpicked tomatoes available etc.
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Daniel Radtke
01:38 PM on 05/20/2010
The thugs and the drug dealers want special treatment when it comes to IDS. I think that is what this is boiling down to. Because we as Americans are asked all the time for proof of insurance proof of residents proof of job performance. Whats the big deal and who are they trying to protect??
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Shan Wells
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02:34 PM on 05/20/2010
So if I, as waspy blonde dude get stopped in AZ for speeding, and I don't have my license on me, they're going to hold me until they verify I'm not a serial killer?

Really?
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05:07 PM on 05/20/2010
A better example would be if you're just walking around and they ask you to identify yourself. Before this law, if you were a citizen all you had to do was truthfully tell them your full name.
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11:19 PM on 05/20/2010
You will definitely get a ticket for not having your license, likely a field sobriety test and depending upon your speed.... a trip down to the local jail.
01:11 PM on 05/20/2010
States have the authority to enforce federal financial legislation, but not immigration??

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-05-19-financialreform19_ST_N.htm
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12:32 PM on 05/20/2010
Why do the papers keep misquoting AZ 1070? I've read it. It's only 16 pages and it clearly states that there must be "legal contact" ( a crime, or infraction) before any police can ask about citizenship. They CAN NOT just ask for ones citizenship based on skin color---a crime must take place first, and I'm BLACK!
If I can't produce my license if I'm stopped, or have any papers to verify that the car is mine--the officer has every right to arrest me if he desires. The law is NOT discriminatory. If you belong here, it's easy to prove it.
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Daniel Radtke
01:34 PM on 05/20/2010
Why is it so hard for people to understand your logic and reality. So many just try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I was just asked at my local dollar store for ID. The cashies was black and I am white. Should I sue the store now? This is rediculous thinking on many people who are bashing the Arizona law. If that was the case it will cause seperation again and black and white and Hispanic will all have to live in there own communities. Maybe that is the solution to the since so many are looking at asking ID as bigger issue than it is. If you are legal you should not have to worry. Like you said we all have to answer to someone for something or another, liek your example to the cop asking for license and registration. Whats the big deal??
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Shan Wells
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02:36 PM on 05/20/2010
I keep asking this, and you folks keep running away from it. I'll try again. Please explain exectly how one would define:

"REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN"

So how is this determination made?
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05:43 PM on 05/20/2010
You've just now misnamed, misquoted, and misinterpreted it yourself. It's Arizona SB1070; it says "lawful contact", not "legal contact"; and there was so much ambiguity in the phrase "lawful contact" that HB2162 superseded that provision of the law by changing it to "lawful stop, detention or arrest". If this law had been in effect when I was coming to Arizona on a regular basis from New Mexico, and had I been stopped and asked to prove my legal presence in this country, I would have been unable to do so with the ordinary documentation, i.e. a driver's license, most people carry around with them. It's not necessarily as easy to prove as you might think.
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11:28 AM on 05/20/2010
Gee....I guess it shouldn't have been such a big deal that those reality stars, the Salahi's sneaked into the White House without proper documentation.

Methinks Mr. Salahi was unfairly profiled. He should sue.
But not the wife....

She is white.

Nevertheless, she should sue too.....

Now....I know some will need help with this.

Someone go get that sarcasm detector.
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Shan Wells
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12:39 PM on 05/21/2010
What in the world are you talking about?
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05:00 PM on 05/22/2010
fanned again for quickness