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Iran Spy Chief Floats Prisoner Exchange For U.S. Hikers, Demands 'Human Rights Gesture'

05/23/10 04:32 PM ET   AP

Iran Hikers Exchange

TEHRAN, Iran — Iran's intelligence minister on Sunday signaled that Tehran might be open to a prisoner swap with the U.S. for three Americans jailed in Iran since last July.

Sarah Shourd, 31, Shane Bauer, 27, and Josh Fattal, 27, were arrested along the Iraqi border 10 months ago. Iran has accused them of espionage and entering the country illegally; their families say the three were hiking in Iraq's largely peaceful mountainous northern Kurdish region and that if they crossed the border, it was accidental.

Last week, Iran allowed the trio's mothers to visit their children. The mothers were hoping to secure their children's' release, but returned to the United States on Saturday empty-handed. However, they say they were heartened to find their children are being treated well and in reasonable health.

On Sunday, Iranian Intelligence Minister Haidar Moslehi said the three Americans' "status as spies is a clear and obvious case," according to state TV.

But Moslehi said there would be a chance of discussing a prisoner exchange with the U.S. once Washington makes a humanitarian gesture toward Iranians in U.S. custody similar to the one Iran made last week toward the mothers.

"Our expectation is that the U.S., which has a claim on human rights issues, could make a similar human rights gesture to us, then we may get to the stage of whether or not there would be a swap," Moslehi said. He did not elaborate.

Iran has repeatedly accused the U.S. of abducting some 10 Iranians abroad and sentencing them to prison terms.

On Thursday, U.S. State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters in Washington that the U.S. is "not contemplating any kind of a prisoner swap" for the three Americans.

"But if Iran has questions about any of its citizens and whether we have any information as to their whereabouts, we would be more than happy to receive that diplomatic note and respond to it," he said.

Moslehi's comments on Sunday fall far short of the prisoner exchange that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad proposed in March. That idea, however, failed to gain traction at the time.

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Richard Pearce 07:21 AM on 05/24/2010
Now, why would Iran think the US has been grabbing up Iranians in other countries?

Oh, yeah, history.

Why would Iran think these 3 were spies?

Oh, yeah, history (especially if they just happened to wander right into an area where the Iranians were beefing up their border detection/defence capabilities, which Iran announced they had, and had completed, while the  Read More...
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valhalladad
Justice went out of style too soon
08:19 AM on 05/25/2010
"...they say they were heartened to find their children are being treated well and in reasonable health."

What?! Iran doesn't have a 'Guantanemo' style prison for them? They obviously won't get any information out of these 'spies'.
12:26 PM on 05/25/2010
Google "Evin prison" or "Iranian dissidents" or "Jailed Iranian journalist" and you can then stop worrying about poor IRI not being tough enough.
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valhalladad
Justice went out of style too soon
02:12 PM on 05/25/2010
Google 'sarcasm', genius.
02:23 AM on 05/25/2010
Huff Post, why do you publish this article on human rights in Iran and then bury it?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hadi-ghaemi/on-iran-un-human-rights-c_b_587755.html
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ZeraLee
A Citizen's View from Main Street
01:31 AM on 05/25/2010
The Iranians accuse every American they get their hands on of spying. This makes them bargaining chips in their dealings with us.

A French teaching assistant was released by the Iranians and two days later a French court released an Iranian assassin (killed the last prime minister under the Shah).

Two days after that Iran allows visits to the American hikers. The next day Iraq released two Iranians arrested by U.S. forces.

Now the Iranians want a "humanitarian gesture" followed by an exchange of prisoners. They are trying to claim the moral high ground and push the process on their terms.

This leaves me with three questions:
1. Are these hikers examples of the "Stupid American" stereotype?
2. Are they the worst CIA spies ever?
3. Did the Iranians reach across their border for American bodies to barter with?

I still remember the Iranian-American professor who was arrested after buying a bottle of black-market wine while visiting her sick Iranian mother. Accusations of espionage and long incarcerations are standard practice by Iran.
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valhalladad
Justice went out of style too soon
08:21 AM on 05/25/2010
How about option 4?

They are spies sent in by yet another country for no other reason than to make Iran look bad. "innocent hikers", yeah right.
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ZeraLee
A Citizen's View from Main Street
12:02 PM on 05/25/2010
Nope. You sound like Ahmadi-nejad.
This is not "Spies Like Us."
12:52 AM on 05/25/2010
For those who constantly vouch for their innocence, here is an article in New York Times that casts doubt on their assumption.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/world/25military.html?hp
12:29 PM on 05/25/2010
No it doesn't. What link do you have between the three and the article? That's absurd and reminds me of Cheney logic.
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valhalladad
Justice went out of style too soon
02:21 PM on 05/25/2010
Bingo. Only the willfully ignorant cannot see the set-up here. Poor innocent, albeit lost, American granola eating hikers who just happened to be in the mountainous region of Iran get arrested. Oh woe is us. But they they are being treated well just doesn't help the propaganda against Iran. Just wait til they are released and then we'll hear the real story of how they were waterboarded, deloused, had to eat pork, etc. Then they can go on Oprah and the 'survivor' circuit, get awards from Obama and be guest speakers teaching kids about the dangers of hiking in hostile countries. Oy vey.
11:06 PM on 05/24/2010
Lauren Rosen from Politico writes about "The Swap that Wasn't."

http://iraninquirer.com/2010/05/opinion-the-swap-that-wasnt/

What I don't get is, America just released two Iranians who were being held in Iraq for years. Wasn't that our unofficial gesture to unofficially swap those two for the three hikers?

Apparently Iran doesn't think so.
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Andman0121
07:48 PM on 05/24/2010
Is it really very crazy for Iran to grant these kids' freedom in exchange for Iranians being held by the United States? I dont think so. Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Now granted the United States is holding these Iranian individuals on suspicion of being terrorists but I personally have not heard the case against these individuals in the first place.

Yes it sets a dangerous precedent (if you want your nationals released, just kidnap some Americans) but do even WE know these people weren't spying for the United States? I mean it's really easy for us to just dismiss this as just another case of Iran acting crazy (yet again) but we really don't have the information for or against these individuals.

This, in a strange kind of way, JUSTIFIES Iranian hostage-taking (which I think is the case; these kids, to me, are not really spies in my opinion). Their nationals, in turn, are being held without trial and there is barely any information for us, the public, to determine their innocence or guilt. Without that available information they become, again justifiably, upset. So what do they do? Take a hostage from the United States. That is what I think is happening here.

So don't blame Iran even if they are being a bit disengenuous with their motives behind their abduction because it's only a tit for tat. If you really want these kids back you better hand them their own hostages behind our bars.
09:06 PM on 05/24/2010
Andman0121, who are the iranians being held captive?

I suspect that the Iranian spy chief is referring to the scientists ( and other iranians) who have defected,

(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36107861/ns/world_news-mideastn_africa/)

If that is the case, he is asking that the US Government hand over persons who may have willingingly defected from Iran. If they have indeed left willingly, I imagine that they would not enjoy a warm reception from the Iranian Government if they are "returned" by the US.
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Andman0121
09:50 PM on 05/24/2010
Thats interesting. However, since we cant read the mind of the Iranian Spy Chief, we don't really know who he is referring to. If they are people who have defected then that would be one thing but if he wants Iranians jailed on suspicions of being terrorists with little to no evidence then I solidly understand where he is coming from.

But for sake of argument let's assume he is talking about recently defected Iranian scientists. If this were the case then Iran isn't being very smart (or politically strategic) since I think the world-over would have more sympathy to the situation I originally posited. The United States would never give up these scientists though and rightfully. However for the record I honestly do not believe it is they for whom they are referring.
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05:36 PM on 05/24/2010
I had this thought today. What if (2) arab men and 1 arab woman were stopped walking along the Arizona border and An Az cop stopped and asked for ID. What if there response was "we were only hiking and are without passport". What action do you think the people of Arizonia would want to take. Torture? A trip to Guantanomo? deport them without a Miranda warning? would you believe them? A thought to consider when the shoe is on the other foot. We must do better!
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03:00 PM on 05/24/2010
No, it was about spying. The hiking story was insulting - no nation in Iran's position would have bought it. The fact that the US has, in general terms, infiltrated Iran via the border with Iraq has been widely reported; before the 'hikers' were captured was it given no more than pro forma official denial.
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KingofDetroit
Picture Me Rollin'
02:34 PM on 05/24/2010
These "hikers" are either spies or candidates for the Darwin Awards. Which is probably why there hasn't been a strong reaction to their capture from the U.S. Government or general public. A five year old could tell that there is something not quite right about their story.
04:01 PM on 05/24/2010
Where have you been? There have been hundreds of articles about these people since their arrest ten months ago. Many people, from friends, colleagues, family members, religious leaders, and government officials have declared their innocence publicly, including Hillary Clinton.
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Amryxx
politeness rules, but with sharpened edges
06:18 PM on 05/24/2010
Ms. Hillary "I dodged sniper bullets in the Balkans" Clinton is not exactly someone I'd want to believe. And wow, "friends, colleagues and family members"? Yeah, no bias there.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
04:08 AM on 05/25/2010
Sure, the government is going to admit they were spies (f they were).

Seems more likely they are stupid kids who wanted a good bar story when they got home
10:43 PM on 05/24/2010
There is a lot more to this story than we are being told. They were living in Damascus before they decided to go "hiking" along the Iran/Iraq border. What were they doing in Damascus, learning a bit of trade craft perhaps?
12:38 PM on 05/24/2010
Like we didn't know this was all about prisoner exchanges from the start. Iran knows they aren't spies. But the world knows the iranian government evil.. They aren't fooling anybody..
12:21 PM on 05/24/2010
I'm starting to wonder when this country will start to impose penalties on Americans who maliciously cross into Iran and/or North Korea and claim they accidentally strayed across the boarder while hiking. I'm not sure why someone would do this, but I am sure it wasn't by accident. Number one, why are they hiking so close to the boarder anyway, when they know to enter would be illegal? Secondly, I'm sure the friendly Kurds knew where the boarder was, so why didn't they know? Every time one of these Americans does something like this it cost the rest of us all kind of resources and missed opportunity for our government to work on something that benefits us all, rather than chewing up resources trying to get these people out of foreign Jails and prisons. Since I saw those two Korean American women, recently released from North Korea. appearing on Larry King promoting their book, I'm starting to wonder if perhaps illegally crossing was part of some overall plan, I know it's stupid and was no mistake or accident.
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KIVPossum
Moldova Marsupial
04:07 AM on 05/25/2010
The penalty should be, 'Hey, enjoy your vacaton'
12:09 PM on 05/24/2010
I have a gesture in mind for Mr. Moslehi, although I suppose it doesn't qualify as a human rights gesture.

Notice how Moslehi says the three prisoners' "status as spies is a clear and obvious case," when they haven't even been given what passes for a trial in today's Iran. Who does this guy think he is -- Dick Cheney?
04:02 PM on 05/24/2010
I second that gesture.
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rgateman
12:04 PM on 05/24/2010
I just graduated from Berkely!

So what are you going to do now?

I'm going to Allah World!
01:25 PM on 05/24/2010
Stay put and continue with your studies. You still need to be educated.
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IRChrisBrown
12:03 PM on 05/24/2010
The U.S. will be needing to respond to Iran is some way. The latest deal between Turkey, Brazil, and Iran and now letting the hikers family visit. This is a step in the right direction, now lets see what the response is. We can be cordial or not. What will it be? First off, I would leave any talks about Iran with China off the table. It wont do any good anyway.
01:50 PM on 05/24/2010
I applaud your positiveness.
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Corpsman Up
11:45 AM on 05/24/2010
Did they not have their papers on them?