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Red Cross Teaches First Aid To Taliban

FRANK JORDANS   05/26/10 02:17 PM ET   AP

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GENEVA — The international Red Cross said Wednesday it would continue giving first aid training and kits to Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, despite drawing angry e-mails from around the world and criticism from an Afghan official after the practice was publicized.

The International Committee of the Red Cross trained "over 70 members of the armed opposition" in first aid last month, along with more than 100 Afghan police and civilians, including taxi drivers.

The courses started in 2006 and the neutral group will continue as long as they are needed, said Red Cross spokesman Christian Cardon.

"It's the core of the ICRC's mandate to make sure that people are cured whether they are from one side or the other side," he told The Associated Press.

Britain's Guardian newspaper on Tuesday quoted an unidentified official in Kandahar's local government as criticizing the first aid training, saying the Taliban did "not deserve to be treated like humans."

Cardon said the Red Cross also received angry e-mails from people around the world in response to the article. But he insisted that in Afghanistan most officials well understood and accepted the group's 151-year history of treating all war wounded regardless of their background or affiliation.

Cardon cited the Red Cross orthopedic hospital in Kabul where amputees are fitted with artificial limbs.

"We never ask the people who come about their background," he said. "This is the way we work everywhere in Afghanistan and all over the world."

As for training Taliban fighters and providing them with first aid kits, Cardon said journeys to Afghanistan's few functioning hospitals were often arduous or nearly impossible, meaning even basic first aid could help save lives when medical help isn't available.

He added that the three-day courses also were an opportunity to show participants the need to abide by the Geneva Conventions that govern the conduct of war.

The conventions also are the reason that U.S. military medical helicopters rescue insurgents as well as U.S. and NATO soldiers when they are called to battlefields in Iraq and Afghanistan to pick up the wounded and rush them to field hospitals.

Red Cross first aid courses also have been held in Gaza with members of Hamas and other Palestinian groups, said Cardon.

Andrea Bianchi, a professor of international law at Geneva's Graduate Institute, said the Red Cross wasn't obliged to provide training and medical kits to the Taliban but appeared to have chosen to do so for practical reasons.

"Afghanistan is a very difficult place to operate," he said. "The idea that the ICRC might offer first aid kits doesn't shock me honestly."

"They stick to this idea that they are impartial and neutral, which means they must provide aid in whatever form is needed to improve the condition of the injured," said Bianchi. "Neutrality means you cannot take sides even in a situation in which it is clear who the bad guys are and who's on the right side."

Cardon, the Red Cross spokesman in Geneva, said the criticism recalled the period after Sept. 11, 2001, when the group was inundated with angry messages because it visited prisoners held at the U.S. detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

If Afghan officials were to complain to the Red Cross about the first aid training for Taliban fighters "we will go and meet them to clarify that it's the way we have always worked and always will work," he said.

"We are quite confident that it (the report) will not affect our operations."

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JonnyTruant
Liberal because I value hard work and honesty.
03:45 AM on 05/31/2010
The Red Cross is, and must always be, a neutral organization for aiding humans in need of medical attention, even if we consider them enemies.

Perhaps lessons in kindness and humanity can be learned on all sides when a neutral party is there to show us all what it is to aid those in need.
12:25 AM on 05/28/2010
ABSOLUTELY Y E S !!!!!!!!!!

They are not linked to the American hegemonic effort and never should be

The Taliban though not to be trusted with western values may learn an important lesson in human kindness by taking the lessons the red cross brings to them

Y E S ! Definately Red Cross should teach as many HUMANS as possible the techniques opf aising others!
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08:45 PM on 05/27/2010
The importance of teaching our troops to try to respect the Geneva Accords cannot be overemphasized. We cannot hope for our troops to be treated respectfully when captured or injured if we do not at least try to do the same to them.

Demonizing one's enemy is just human nature, but it has limited usefulness. The Taliban are not a few hundred extremists who we can try to exterminate, like al Qaeda. Like the Viet Cong in a previous war, the Taliban represent the will of a large fraction of the Afghan population. Unless we intend to set up Nazi style death camps in Afghanistan, we must eventually come to terms with how to live in peace with them, like we do today with the Vietnamese.
Many of my friends died in Vietnam, but today I go down to the mall and by well-made inexpensive clothes manufactured there. What was it all for? And, why are we now involved in Afghanistan's civil war? It wasn't the Taliban who attacked us, and they did offer to turn over Osama bin Laden for trial to a third party.
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02:41 PM on 05/27/2010
OMG, here we go again. First, no civil rights for suspected terrorists. Now, no emergency medical care for the Taliban? What is wrong with you people?
03:17 PM on 05/27/2010
I don't think anybody has said the Taliban can't have medical care, it is the teaching of medical care that is causing some of us concerns.
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JTCan
09:39 AM on 05/28/2010
I am afraid I don't see the difference.....
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10:25 AM on 05/28/2010
I think many pick and chose what they want to use when it comes to International and Constitutional law. They can't have it both ways. And I think it's a shame that people feel they have a right or feel justified in withhold treatment or even First Aid classes to a select population.

I think the international Red Cross, is doing what it's done best for a very long time. Delivering unconditional first aide to those in need. Period!. Which was what it was designed to do. It wasn't created to follow the US around the globe and respond to crisis according to our foreign policies. It's an International group and many are thankful that they are there.

Wasn't it this same group that found it difficult to get information from US made and controlled Detention Centers?
06:08 PM on 05/26/2010
like doctors without borders, the red cross has taken an opportunity to provide valuable medical training to people in war zones. Although the Taliban are America's enemy, just consider the cases where they will save a childs life with the same training.
04:25 AM on 05/27/2010
Part 1
Unfortunately, the Taliban do not think in a civil and rational manner. They are not an army, they are terrorists and those that think that the Taliban will treat civilians before their own fighters are misguided. The war in Afghanistan is NOT conventional warfare, like it was in WW1 and WW2 and cannot be compared to those wars. When you fight terrorism you are fighting a whole new war, a war that is held on the streets and not on the battle field. A war where your enemy does not wear a uniform for you to be able to identify the enemy. A war where your enemy will mingle in the crowd and watch what they have done with pleasure.

The Taliban have no respect for women and young female children, they are second rate citizens to them and the Taliban would deny female children and adults treatment, because they would class that as wasting med kits.
04:25 AM on 05/27/2010
Part 2

The Taliban instil in their sons, that the nasty troops killed their family and friends and base it on the fact of the troops being there, when the real reason is they want to harvest opium and supply the drugs trade which ultimately kills our sons and daughters on the streets of our own country.

Atrocities are committed all over the world, but we are now in a new age of warfare, a warfare that the British troops have been dealing with up until a few years ago on the streets of Northern Ireland. A war where they never knew who their enemy was.
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04:23 PM on 05/26/2010
http://humanrights.change.org/blog/view/us_military_taliban_share_same_view_of_aid_workers

This is the Taliban's little way of saying thank you!
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04:34 PM on 05/26/2010
The Soviet partisans committed a lot of atrocities against German soldiers. Yes, they even attacked medics and other Germans carrying a red cross. But it was THEIR country and they had every right to defend it against an enemy who considered them subhumans and targeted civilians as if they were combatants. Which is EXACTLY what your government is doing.
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04:40 PM on 05/26/2010
Lady I m not talking about germans, or soviet partisans. So is your government just as guilty for sending Canadian troops to support us??? I m done with you and our infatuation with WW II tell your goverment to stop supporting us if we are criminals making them accomplices.
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04:05 PM on 05/26/2010
"Red Cross condemns Taliban use of booby trap bombs"
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jtquc-ZcuAUpzsIVuD50UkGprUEQ

And to show those inhumane Taliban fighter a lesson the Red Cross gives weekend classes on First Aid, that should show them
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04:12 PM on 05/26/2010
"PESHAWAR: Of the 44 predator strikes carried out by US drones in the tribal areas of Pakistan over the past 12 months, only five were able to hit their actual targets, kiIIing five key AI-Qaeda and TaIiban leaders, but at the cost of over 700 innocent civilians.
According to the statistics compiled by Pakistani authorities, the Afghanistan-based US drones kiIIed 708 people in 44 predator attacks targeting the tribal areas between January 1 and December 31, 2009.
For each AI Qaeda and TaIiban terrorist kiIIed by US drones, 140 innocent Pakistanis also had to d.ie. Over 90 per cent of those kiIIed in the deadly missile strikes were civilians, claim authorities."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16758

Terr0rism is the war of the poor. War is the terr0rism of the rich.
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04:13 PM on 05/26/2010
"PESHAWAR: Of the 44 predator strikes carried out by US drones in the tribal areas of Pakistan over the past 12 months, only five were able to hit their actual targets, kiIIing five key AI-Qaeda and TaIiban leaders, but at the cost of over 700 innocent civilians.
According to the statistics compiled by Pakistani authorities, the Afghanistan-based US drones kiIIed 708 people in 44 predator attacks targeting the tribal areas between January 1 and December 31, 2009.
For each AI Qaeda and TaIiban terr0rist kiIIed by US drones, 140 innocent Pakistanis also had to d.ie. Over 90 per cent of those kiIIed in the d.eadly missiIe strikes were civilians, claim authorities."

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=16758

Terr0rism is the war of the poor. War is the terr0rism of the rich.
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04:25 PM on 05/26/2010
http://humanrights.change.org/blog/view/us_military_taliban_share_same_view_of_aid_workers

Some work your friends did to some aid workers and how they feel about them.
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04:01 PM on 05/26/2010
How many of you think the Taliban wouldn't jump at the chance to capture kill or try to interfere with a Red Cross envoy trying to reach soldier to render aid or supplies so we can get better so we can continue to fight them?
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04:02 PM on 05/26/2010
Rule #1: de-humanize your enemy...
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04:24 PM on 05/26/2010
Is that your plan for me?
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08:22 PM on 05/27/2010
Teabaggers is a derogatory term for what most refer to as a homosexual sex act which you have applied to the people who support the Taxed Enough Already movement. Is that your step #1 in your dehumanizing activity or is it something else as are not all insults also dehumanizing?
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Dham4201
03:56 PM on 05/26/2010
It's one thing to treat wounded Taliban fighters - the Red Cross already does this, as do American troops. It is another thing to teach medical tactics to the Taliban which will help them live another day. I highly doubt any of them will use these newly learned First Aid skills to help the wounded civilian victims of their suicide attacks. Also, First Aid is completely basic anyway. If the Taliban don't know how to administer something as simple as basic First Aid to each other, then I truly believe there is no way they are ever going to be able to go toe to toe with US or Afghan government troops, much more control the country again.
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01:25 PM on 05/26/2010
All funding for the Red Cross should stop from the United States. The Taliban are our enemies and funding assistance for them is in direct opposition to our goals.
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03:41 PM on 05/26/2010
The RC is an INTERNATIONAL organization and it's neutral. But then again, to conservative Americans "if you're not with us, you're with the terr0rists..."
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03:57 PM on 05/30/2010
No funding to the RC is an obligation to humanity. That organization takes no side. Part of our own military creed is to give medical aid to the enemy. You can vanquish an enemy with out being totally inhuman. Killing is bad enough don't add undo suffering to the process by denying funds to an organization that only exists to heal and help. Good or bad that is part of what America is suppose to stand for.
01:11 PM on 05/26/2010
These are the same people that let the Jews die in the camps. Didn't do much in africa. Didn't help our troops that were prisoners in the war.
And now there helping our enemies. Great job? (Now lets send them money.)
What did you expect?
01:23 PM on 05/26/2010
They screwed up badly over the concentration camps and they admit it. But they're pretty well everywhere in Africa where there's a conflict, and a number have paid the ultimate price of trying to be neutral in that continent's conflicts.

As for helping US servicemen ... ask most American WWII vets whether the Red Cross helped or not. Ex-servicemen on all sides will have stories about how they wouldn't be here today if hadn't have been for the Red Cross.

Generally, where the Red Cross hasn't helped, it's because it's not been given access to people. The concentration camps are the only example that springs to mind of a situation where they failed to help people they could have. It's a pretty shocking example, mind you.
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04:00 PM on 05/30/2010
The Red Cross has helped everyone in the history of war fare and desaster that they were allowed to help. They didn't LET Jews die. They were denied access. They assisted our POWs as they were allowed. They are unarmed medical and aid personnel. They are limited by those that control access to where they are needed.
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12:59 PM on 05/26/2010
Kudos to the Red Cross for standing firm. Concern for our fellow humans must override partisan posturing. No one deserves to suffer, regardless of their politics.
02:52 PM on 05/26/2010
It's not their politics. It's their tactics of targeting innocent people with suicide bombers.
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12:36 PM on 05/26/2010
I think this is great. Who is to say that such a humanitarian attitude might not influence a "terrorist" to think twice about what they are doing. I was appalled when I read the head-line and thought the Red Cross might be leaving those wounded to die or struggle on their own.
01:15 PM on 05/26/2010
Exactly.

A friend of mine is a surgeon with the (British) Royal Army Medical Corps. He has worked in Afghanistan a number of times. One day, he was repairing a somewhat damaged Taliban. The guy was totally incredulous: "Why are you doing this? If it was the other way round, I'd be skinning you alive!" And my friend had the impression this wasn't a figure of speech. Wonder what thoughts went through the Taliban's mind afterwards. Could have been "These westerners are a bunch of mugs." But could also have been "Are these westerners really quite the barbarians we thought?"
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02:18 PM on 05/26/2010
That situation is different of course we render aid to the enemies in our custody, but the Red cross doesn't need to teach them first aid so they live to escape and fight us another day.
02:54 PM on 05/26/2010
I'm more inclined to believe he thought we were idiots for helping and after he healed up he joined the fight again. These guys are fanatical and I don't think anything would convince him that we're not the Great Satan.
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02:21 PM on 05/26/2010
Ma'am, I trust you don't know many "terr0rist", it's one thing to take care of prisoners in our custody, it's another to teach them how to be resilient and battle ready by giving them knowledge on how to patch them selves up to fight us again later. I think we need to win the hearts and minds and bombs and bullets are not the answer but we have to draw the line somewhere they are trying to kill us we can't make it easy for them.
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03:38 PM on 05/26/2010
Yeah, let them bleed to d.eath. So hilarious but tragic at the same time that you believe you're some kind of humanitarian. How many did you kiII?
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Macnos
11:32 AM on 05/26/2010
I wonder how the douches at Fox are going to spin this one, "The Red Cross working with terrorists" or "Red Cross shows love for the Taliban". Anyway the Red Cross should keep up the good work.
08:13 PM on 05/26/2010
They haven't been spinning it at all. They've been running "WHO KNEW?" stories, because Fox News' audience are a bunch of dolts who didn't know what the Red Cross does yesterday, and now they think they're traitors.
11:23 AM on 05/26/2010
"He added that the three-day courses also were an opportunity to show participants the need to abide by the Geneva Conventions that govern the conduct of war." I'm glad they're doing this. It should stop all the suicide bombings of people at markets.