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Gulf Oil Spill: Latest Federal Government Estimate Still Understates Oil Flow

First Posted: 06/03/10 04:57 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:40 PM ET

Gulf Oil Spill

Last week's much-ballyhooed new federal estimate of how much oil is spewing into the Gulf of Mexico -- 12,000 to 19,000 barrels a day, or two to four times as much as the original estimate -- remains a low-ball figure.

The numbers released by the government last week and quickly adopted by the mass media actually represent the lower range of "lower bounds" generated by using conservative assumptions and flawed measures, according to documents released on Thursday.

The newly-released summary of the report from the Department of Interior's "Flow Rate Technical Group" doesn't disclose the higher bounds, however, declaring that a reliable upper figure was incalculable due to -- get this -- "known unknowns" and "unknown unknowns."

(It was Bush-era Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld who first coined those terms in February 2002 when asked for evidence of a direct link between alleged Iraq weapons of mass destruction and terrorist organizations.)

For more than a month after the well blew out, BP and the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) had been estimating the flow at 5,000 barrels, or about 210,000 gallons, a day. NOAA based its number on the amount of oil visible on the surface of the Gulf -- and stuck to that, even after marine scientists pointed out that due to the depth of the leak and the use of dispersants, a high proportion of the oil was staying beneath the surface.

Media reports continued to use that figure even after a video clip of the spewing pipe exposed it as a farce. Finally on May 27, the Interior Department issued a press release, describing 12,000 to 19,000 barrels as a "preliminary best estimate" of the flow.

Two members of the team did tell PBS the next day that the 12,000 to 19,000 figure was just the range of the "lower bound." Yet the figure was widely accepted as the entire range of possibilities.

One of the methods the team used to arrive at its numbers was based on an estimate of the oil detected on the ocean surface. The new report states that: "The team then corrected the value for oil evaporated, skimmed, burned, and dispersed up to that day and divided by time to produce an average rate."

But there is nothing remotely like agreement in the scientific community about how much of the oil remains beneath the surface. Some scientists think the vast majority remains suspended in the water column. By contrast, NOAA's director has a hard time acknowledging there is any at all.

How the flow-rate team "corrected" for something they didn't know about remains a secret. Overall, however, even including the amount of oil evaporated, skimmed or burned, the team's lower bound for the flow amounted to less than double the amount visible on the surface.

And the new document acknowledges that further scientific investigation could push its estimates higher, due to "unknown processes that remove oil naturally from the system" as well as "unknown unknowns."

Another estimation method involved calculating the size of the plume based on video from the sea floor. It had a whole different set of challenges, including a limited window of data (seven minutes!), poor quality footage, an untested methodology and a series of assumptions that may or may not have been correct.

The scientists pursuing that method also found their guesswork limited by "the effect of the unknown unknowns" which "made it more difficult to produce a reliable upper bound on the flow rate."

So the actual flow could be much, much greater than any of the numbers the government will discuss -- but we don't even know by what factor.

One congressional investigator, irate over the assertion that the group corrected for "unknown unknowns," shot back in an email to the Department of the Interior: "I've never heard of this before in math. Help me understand your thinking."

Even at 12,000 to 19,000 barrels -- or about 500,000 to 800,000 gallons -- a day, the BP disaster, now in its 45th day, long ago eclipsed the 250,000 barrels spilled by the Exxon Valdes.

There's a very good reason one party to all this would want to low-ball flow estimates. As Mother Jones environmental reporter Kate Sheppard recently noted: "The base fine for a spill is $1,100 a barrel, but it can go as high as $4,300 a barrel if a federal court determines that the spill was the result of gross negligence by the responsible party."

Should it come to that, at 12,000 barrels a day for 45 days -- at the base fine amount -- that would amount to $594 million; at 19,000 barrels, that would amount to about $940 million; at, say, 50,000 barrels, that would amount to about $2.5 billion. (And all those numbers would quadruple in case of gross negligence.)

Even for BP, that's real money. The company earned $4.4 billion in profits in 2009.

Marcia McNutt, the director of the U.S. Geological Survey and author of the group's report, last week defended the lack of an upper bound. She blamed variations in the gas and oil outflow.

She did hold out the hope that additional video supplied by BP could result in a higher bound estimate at some point in the future, but none has been forthcoming so far.

Meanwhile, a computer modeling study released Thursday suggests that some of that oil might soon extend along thousands of miles of the Atlantic coast.

The National Center for Atmospheric Research, a National Science Foundation program in Colorado, has animated computer simulations showing how, once oil gets caught in the Gulf of Mexico's fast-moving Loop Current, it is likely to reach Florida's Atlantic coast within weeks. It could then move north as far as Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, with the Gulf Stream, before turning east.

WATCH THE PROJECTION:

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Dan Froomkin is senior Washington correspondent for the Huffington Post. You can send him an e-mail, bookmark his page; subscribe to RSS feed, follow him on Twitter, friend him on Facebook, and/or become a fan and get e-mail alerts when he writes.

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Last week's much-ballyhooed new federal estimate of how much oil is spewing into the Gulf of Mexico -- 12,000 to 19,000 barrels a day, or two to four times as much as the original estimate -- remains ...
Last week's much-ballyhooed new federal estimate of how much oil is spewing into the Gulf of Mexico -- 12,000 to 19,000 barrels a day, or two to four times as much as the original estimate -- remains ...
 
 
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07:37 PM on 06/05/2010
WOW! "Unknown Unknowns" Donald Rumsfeld,the undisputed "King of Obsfucation",and "Grand Master of Confusion" is a genius; to bad he is insane. Really,I wish I had thought of it first. "Unknown Unknowns" WOW!
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tempting
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12:39 PM on 06/05/2010
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/13/business/energy-environment/13greenwire-less-toxic-dispersants-lose-out-in-bp-oil-spil-81183.html

The people who 100s of gallons of dispersant into our environment to did so knowing that the product is banned and did so to sink the oil under the water in order to hide it from cameras. They are also connected to BP.
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tempting
sure fire
12:21 PM on 06/05/2010
All these CEOs should be tried and convicted and made to do hard time/life/death penalty for the killing and destruction of the people, animals, and the environment.

The supreme court ruled that corporations are people who can give countless amounts to politicians, thereby overriding any voice or values the communities that they are from may have.

Therefore these same CEO's should pay for their crimes as people who commit crimes do.

I heard a lawyer on MSM arguing that these people will not be held to the same standards as criminals because it has to be proven that they personally set out to hurt us.....give me a break.
If that's the case I will be proud to put my name on any document challenging the Supreme Court's dicision in the "Citizens United" case. If anyone has a link for that let me know please.

In the main time check out this site and their amazing links.
http://www.freespeech.org/blog/weekly-mulch-oil-spill-could-bring-mass-extinction-gulf-coast
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speakingtruth2power
Not motivated by fear & loathing
12:22 PM on 06/04/2010
Gross negligence? How about negligent homocide?

Blaming the environmentalists here is Bushit!

Who stole our money and ruined the economy?

Dick Armey, deregulation and the Faux-con movement.

Who let BP ruin the Gulf of Mexico for generations?

Dick Cheney and his secret energy meetings.

What is the connection between these two Dicks?

The Bush Crime Family and their three generations long

pursuit of fascism using oil and drugs to fund their cabal.

ST2P
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speakingtruth2power
Not motivated by fear & loathing
12:20 PM on 06/04/2010
Obama's lack of emotion? That is pure Bushit!

Who stole our money and ruined the economy?

Dick Armey, deregulation and the Faux-con movement.

Who let BP ruin the Gulf of Mexico for generations?

Dick Cheney and his secret energy meetings.

What is the connection between these two Dicks?

The Bush Crime Family and their three generations long

pursuit of fascism using oil and drugs to fund their cabal.

ST2P
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leonel
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11:20 AM on 06/04/2010
The feds need to start thinking of putting liens on the bank accounts of BP so they don't spend their profits in ways that the future damages awarded against them will not be paid.
11:09 AM on 06/04/2010
I would like to know why (bleeping) BP is not using oil-eating microbes to clean up this mess. They have been used BEFORE multiple times in the Gulf with 100% success! The Gulf would be clean and safe in a few months - But BP doesn't want to use them because they want to recover the oil - Even now, BP is more interested in their bottom line than human and animal life. UNBELIEVABLE! Here is a video about this - it is a bit slow at the beginning, but is worth watching: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx1tI
05:47 PM on 06/04/2010
Once the oli is in the water (salt water no lesS), it's not like they can just scoop it up and sell it/use it. I've mentioned this to you on two other boards, but you don't seem to get it.
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12:41 PM on 06/05/2010
So far, BP has told federal agencies that it has applied more than 400,000 gallons of a dispersant sold under the trade name Corexit and manufactured by Nalco Co., whose current leadership includes executives from BP and Exxon. And another 805,000 gallons of Corexit are on order, the company said, with the possibility that hundreds of thousands of more gallons may be needed if the well continues spewing oil for weeks or months.

But according to EPA data, Corexit ranks far above dispersants made by competitors in toxicity and far below them in effectiveness in handling southern Louisiana crude.

Of 18 dispersants whose use EPA has approved, 12 were found to be more effective on southern Louisiana crude than Corexit, EPA data show. Two of the 12 were found to be 100 percent effective on Gulf of Mexico crude, while the two Corexit products rated 56 percent and 63 percent effective, respectively. The toxicity of the 12 was shown to be either comparable to the Corexit line or, in some cases, 10 or 20 times less, according to EPA.
10:54 AM on 06/04/2010
Why the (*%&($*& are they not using this? Oh, I know, because
$*%$%(&ing BP is not at all interested in saving the environment if
it means they can't recover the oil. They aren't using this because even
now, they are focused on their bottom line over human and animal life! !
This is CRIMINAL!! (PLEASE JUST KEEP RE-POSTING THIS VIDEO and watch
the whole thing, the beginning is a bit slow, but it is worth watching
the whole thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VfypUzx1tI
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12:33 PM on 06/05/2010
The disbursant that they used has already damaged the ocean and is banned in Europe. I may not work because the microbes may be destroyed because of the chemicals

http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m5d13-EPA-BP-makes-Gulf-oil-spill-worse-by-using-more-toxic-less-effective-chemical-dispersants

It turns out that the company BP bought this product from has a board member that has ties to BP. I hope the MSM will look into this as well.
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EatYourVeg
10:30 AM on 06/04/2010
The cover-up BP has been orchestrating since day 1 it's basically a struggle for survivor for the company. It has already lost billions on the market, and I can perfecty understand how BP's CEO is trying to save some as**s there. (Wouldn't you try to save yourselves in the same situation? BP is a private company after all, it doesn't have to respond to the american people for its actions, but just to its shareholders) (that's the way your beloved capitalism works).

What I really CAN'T understand is why federal agencies such as NOAA or the Coast Guard, or even the Obama Administration, are just playing BP's game right now. First they stated that it wasn't urgent to know the exact amount of oil leaking, then they let BP use dispersants in order to hide crude beneath the sea surface, than again they started patrolling the coasts to avoid reporters to see (and report) beached oil and dead animals.

How can this possibly happen?!?!?
09:34 AM on 06/04/2010
Well...maybe now that precious Florida is being effected, there will be a sense of urgency!!

If even the (idiot in charge) Governor of Mississippi, Haily Barbour, knowing damn well how bad the situation is on the Mississippi Gulf Coast (Yes, it was beautiful, and an affordable, and fun place to visit) still pretends every thing is "hunky dory", then maybe since a threat to Florida's beaches has come into play, something will be done!!!

It's really a tragedy when the people of Mississippi are so Republican that they continue to support a true Corporate man like Haily Barbour, who could not care less about the average working class citizen, (i.e. not allowing State minimum wage to go up for the entire eight year term until forced by the Government). He is a lame duck and is looking to go back in the Lobbying arena where he came from.

What is sad is that so many people HE has held down voted for him not once, but twice!!
11:09 AM on 06/04/2010
I live in Florida (although not on the coast) and I don't think your comments are very helpful. This is a national issue, not just the states that first had the oil wash ashore. Maybe Haily Barbour is an idiot as you say, and he's probably lined his pockets with enough oil company money to cause his comments to be, shall we say, silghtly biased. It doesn't matter. When you start bickering between the states you are playing right into BP's hand.
11:47 AM on 06/04/2010
You are right SR...It is just so frustrating when you have a person at the helm who has always looked out for himself alone. I lived in Florida for 5 years (Jupiter) and we do all need to pull together. It just seems when it's only Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama being hurt, there is not as much of a sense of urgency. Many Katrina victims JUST this year got any (not nearly what they lost) compensation. I care very much about Florida's coasts as well. Point taken.
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Aikaterina
A Greek-American living in California
09:14 AM on 06/04/2010
BP originally said 1,000 barrels/daily were spilling into the Gulf. Then they said it was 5,000, which Tony Hayward insisted was "tiny" and "miniscule," while denying independent or government scientists, researchers access to the drilling site. Since, we've learned there are between 12-to-19 (possibly as much as 25) thousand barrels spilling into the Gulf. BP claims that since this is "their oil," they have the right to restrict access by journalists or independent scientists to sites where the devastation is taking its toll. Those who work on the clean-up must sign waivers precluding them from suing BP should they become ill from toxins, and speaking to the media or anyone about what they witness. This is nothing but a PR stunt and effort to limit the company's liability.

What's exasperating is that our US Coast Guard and local law-enforcement, rescue workers paid by the US federal or state governments, are helping BP hide the truth and limit-restrict access to the site. It makes one wonder how much they're getting paid (cash, gifts or lucrative job offers for friends/family) these government employees, sailors (charged with defending our shores) are getting from BP to betray their country, local communities and duties of office.
09:11 AM on 06/04/2010
The one rhetorical snafu that most everyone in the media. Huffpost included, is taking part in, is that everyone insists on calling this a SPILL. A spill is when something gets dumped onto the surface of a body of water, or perhaps leaks from a ruptured hold on a surface vessel. This is a well BLOWOUT, pure and simple. So far 11 workers have lost their lives, as well as untold thousands of creatures. Millions have or soon will lose their way of life due to BP's cheap way of doing business. The entire Gulf and possibly the Atlantic will have long lasting deleterious effects, and we continue to use euphemisms such as "spill".

Wake up everyone! By calling this a spill you are pandering to the minimalists such as Sarah Palin.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
08:45 AM on 06/04/2010
Love the 'blame game' but it is getting a little boring. The primary fault for this goes to bp itself. Then comes transocean and haliburton. Then the Interior Department. By extension, dickiecheeney is obviously in line because he wrote the energy policy (remember: bp's permit to drill this well was issued in 2007. Of course gwbush was responsible for the whole eight years of deregulation.

This is the story that the 'corporate media' will not tell. Why? Guess.
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MrBadExample
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08:34 AM on 06/04/2010
I'm getting tired of the possibilities being raised about what BP could be on the line for in terms of fines or sanctions. We could seize BP's assets by eminent domain, destroy their stock and leave investors penniless and sell off all their possessions to the highest bidders and there still won't be enough to pay the damages. And much of the damage simply can't be fixed--what price do you put on a couple of extinctions?

That said, there's some evidence of more than one leak in this field--the sudden pressurization from the blowout could've destroyed pipes in other parts of the oil field. It's long past time for the government to stop taking BP at its word--get a mini-sub down there and figure out how a relatively small hole is pushing upwards of 12,000-19,000 barrels a day (minimum) into the Gulf.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
08:47 AM on 06/04/2010
Simple answers from simple people?