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Pac-10 Expansion: Reports Indicate Conference Choosing Between Baylor, Colorado For Final Invitation

First Posted: 06/07/10 01:50 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:40 PM ET

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In a decision that will have profound implications for the future of University of Colorado athletics, officials from the Pac-10 are expected to announce plans this week for expanding the conference by taking on several teams from the Big 12 conference.

The Pac-10 reportedly hopes to add 6 colleges in order to expand to 16 teams.

Preliminary reports indicate that the Pac 10 will extend invitations to five Big 12 colleges in Texas and Oklahoma, including powerhouses like the University of Texas and the University of Oklahoma.

It has been widely rumored that Colorado, which recruits heavily in the Pac-10 stronghold of California, will receive the 6th invitation to join the storied conference.

However, ESPN reported over the weekend that lawmakers in Texas are insisting that Baylor University in Waco, Texas receive the 6th invitation in order to keep the college in the same conference as the 3 other Texas schools that are reportedly locks to receive Pac-10 invitations.

"If you're going to have an exported commodity involved in this, do you think we're going to allow a school from outside the state of Texas to replace one of our schools in the Big 12 South? I don't think so. We're already at work on this," an unnamed member of the Texas legislature told Orangebloods.com over the weekend.

The legislator also pointed to CU's recent struggles withing the Big 12 conference to bolster Baylor's case.

The Pac-10 granted commissioner Larry Scott the authority to move forward on an expansion plan, and reports have varied as to how conference officials would proceed. Recent reports, however, have largely confirmed that the conference intends to act on a plan to add 6 Big 12 teams and create two separate sub-conferences.

Sports commentators and reporters in Texas reported Monday morning that officials are still choosing between Baylor and CU, but should reach a decision this week.

The conference hopes to finalize plans this year before negotiating a new television contract.

The immediate effects of a conference change for CU are unclear at this point. As the Colorado Daily points out, the move would make CU more geographically isolated, which could make it more difficult for fans to travel to road games.

Mark Kiszla of the Denver Post has suggested that CU should also consider joining the Mountain West Conference, which would allow closer geographic proximity to rival schools.

The switch to a Pac-10 conference that includes Texas and Oklahoma would force the Buffs to compete against elite competition on an almost-weekly basis.

The CU football team was 2-6 in 2009 against current Big 12 teams.

Much has also been made of CU's recruiting pipeline to California, which many believe would be strengthened by a move to the Pac-10, which would allow CU teams to play more games in the state.

The decisions made over the following weeks will also depend on whether other Big 12 schools not in the running for a Pac 1o invite decide to stay in the conference. The schools that are expected to receive Pac-10 invitations have not said whether they will accept.

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holyfrak
02:33 PM on 06/10/2010
"If you're going to have an exported commodity involved in this, do you think we're going to allow a school from outside the state of Texas to replace one of our schools in the Big 12 South? I don't think so. We're already at work on this," an unnamed member of the Texas legislature told Orangebloods.com over the weekend.

What exactly could the Texas legislature do besides force Texas not to go without bringing Baylor along? Colorado and the Pac-10 were incredibly smart to pull the trigger on the Buffs admission after Nebraska announced their departure from the conference. Now the Baylor supporters have no leverage. It's funny how Texans alwaysthink it's all about them.

I suppose Texas could decide against joining the Pac -10 and:

1) Form a new conference on it's own by maintaining the remaining Big-12.
2) Join the SEC or other conference.

I don't think either of those things will happen...
01:41 PM on 06/09/2010
No way Baylor gets into the Pac 10 ~ They'd have to play Arizona and ASU, and everybody knows that the State of Arizona doesn't allow illegals or baptists.
04:12 PM on 06/08/2010
CU needs to fire Dan Hawkins the most worthless intramural coach on both sides of the Mississippi! And they also need to replace their AD, he really has done nothing for CU athletics.
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cynical one
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02:30 PM on 06/08/2010
Who cares what Texas thinks? Don't their politicians have anything better to do?

Just when you think when the stupidity has hit its limit.......
04:08 PM on 06/08/2010
Unfortunately their political ploy worked back when the Big 12 was formed, Baylor got the nod over TCU. But it's time to stop that bull and let Baylor join Conference USA, they can be with Rice, SMU and Houston!
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10:21 AM on 06/09/2010
This is working its way into a jobs program for unemployed Texans.
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DBtv
02:06 PM on 06/08/2010
The Pac 10 would be nuts to include Baylor.

Texas, A&M, TTech, CU, OU, OSU are the only schools that make sense in this scenario.
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09:07 PM on 06/07/2010
Pac-10'r here (UW '90).

Would like to see Pac add CU AND CSU. CSU is the weak-sister in the deal (like WSU and OSU), but the strength of the conference configuration is the "pairing" of state (or in case of CA, regional) teams.

Would prefer UT bring along either A&M or TT, but not both. Then throw in the two Okie schools and the pairs remain "intact".

Let the Okies, Texans, Colorado schools and the Arizonas form an Eastern Conference, with the CA's, OR's and WA's the Western Conference.

PacWestConf

Eastern Western

Texas Washington
Texas A&M Washington St.
Colorado Oregon
Colorado St Oregon St.
Arizona California
Arizona St. Stanford
Oklahoma UCLA
Oklahoma St. USC
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TTigerX2
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05:03 PM on 06/07/2010
The way the Fumbalos are playing in recent years they will have their work cut out for them remaining competitive in the Mountain West.

Colorado can't recruit worth a damn and can't keep good players and coaches from leaving the team -- it is a program no longer worthy of the Big 12 or the Pac 10. (alum '70)
03:40 PM on 06/07/2010
This stuff always get political in Texas. When the Southwest Conference broke up and Texas and Texas A&M were offered invites to the old Big 8, Texas Governor Anne Richards... a Baylor grad, got together with the powerful head of the state appropriations committee... a Texas Tech grad... and strong armed the Horns and Aggies to force the Big 8 into accepting Baylor and Tech into the newly formed Big XII

Denver is a Top 20 TV market, so this may come down to who has more political clout... Baylor or Texas Tech alums. My guess is that when it's all said and done, Pac-10 offers Baylor and Colorado to go with Texas, A&M, Oklahoma and Okla. State. Those three Texas schools get you into the Dallas and Houston TV markets, plus you bring in Denver. Pac-10 TV revenues will be right there with the SEC.

Should be interesting to see how it all plays out.
04:15 PM on 06/07/2010
I thought Texas was offered the Pac-10 and A&M the SEC back then and neither would answer the Big 8's calls. It took Bullock and Sibley doing the dirty work, while Richards was the face on the deal.
05:08 PM on 06/07/2010
Initially it looked like Texas and Colorado would jump to the Pac-10, and A&M would go to the SEC, but forces aligned with both schools did not want the Horns and Aggies to join separate leagues. That became a political issue, so the schools set their sights on the Big 8.

Richards was a big player in this. She famously told the presidents of Texas and A&M, "Not without my Baylor".

Lt. Governor Bob Bullock and State Finance committee member David Sibley, also Baylor grads, and State Senate President John Montford, a Tech grad did a lot of the heavy lifting and arm twisting, but Richards was very involved in making sure the Bears and Red Raiders didn't get left behind.
02:55 PM on 06/07/2010
the pac 10 must be looking for someone they can easily beat if they are asking CU to join the sorority.
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Nosybear
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02:28 PM on 06/07/2010
Dang, it must be a really boring day in Austin when the State legislature wants to govern the fate of a college football team. Better idea for Baylor: Kill football and go back to being a university.
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rbchilds
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12:50 AM on 06/08/2010
Well football is a religion in Texas.
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DBtv
02:00 PM on 06/08/2010
Baylor has never been a university.
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rcozad
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02:12 PM on 06/07/2010
The insanity of ever increasing college athletic budgets fly in the face of all the schools that are cutting back on faculty and staff, raising tuition to the stratosphere , eliminating degree programs and jamming students into ever larger classes. We are rapidly duplicating the folly that was the fall of Rome. As our academic powers fade and the rest of the world is advancing technologies beyond us few will notice as all our alumnae donations are eaten up building ever larger stadiums! But hell! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!
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02:31 PM on 06/07/2010
well, except that major college football and major college basketball (and the TV contracts that go with) pay...for...everything. So, if you are cuttin teachers, eliminating programs etc...don't blame football.
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cynical one
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02:33 PM on 06/08/2010
I'm not so sure that is true. Got any info to back this?
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rcozad
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02:04 PM on 06/07/2010
Oh great! Arizona is THE ONLY Pac 10 school never to play in the Rose Bowl-this expansion will make that frustration a reality for the next 100 years or so!
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DialectDerelict
02:54 PM on 06/07/2010
GO SUN DEVILS!
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Allan Bartlett
03:02 AM on 06/08/2010
YESH! please, go away sun devils.
04:03 PM on 06/07/2010
Don't fear. If the expansion happens, it means that in addition to Arizona, Texas Tech, Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, and Baylor/Colorado will also never play in the Rose Bowl for the next 100 years.

Better idea: Have the best of those schools play in a new bowl in Texas called the Yellow Rose Bowl.
01:49 PM on 06/07/2010
This is the Big 8 to Big XII history repeating itself. When the Big 8 absorbed the Texas members of the old Southwest Conference, the Texas institutions made so many demands that the Big XII headquarters are now in Texas, rules were changed to fit the Texas institutions, and recently they had been pushing to permanently have the Big XII championship game played in Texas.

If the PAC 10 gives-in to this extortion, it's only the tip of the iceberg.
04:13 PM on 06/08/2010
Spot on!
01:47 PM on 06/07/2010
it should be colorado. I think the tv ratings are a little better in Denver than Waco
03:06 PM on 06/07/2010
Colorado loyalties are divided between CU and Colorado St. Baylor has a ton of alumn in the DFW and Houston markets, not to mention the Texas markets when the Texas schools play Baylor. Might want to check your facts next time.
05:04 PM on 06/07/2010
I don't know anyone who is loyal to CSU. Go Buffs!
12:21 AM on 06/10/2010
Isn't Colorado bigger than Waco?? Even with half the fans (more like 80%), Colorado has Baylor beat. And those Texas markets, seems like they are wearing Burnt Orange and Aggie Maroon...not Baylor Blue.
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01:44 PM on 06/07/2010
Hey Texas! I’ve got a compromise for ya.

How about you guys secede from the union and take your 34 RED electoral votes with you.

BTW…. Have fun coming up with the funds to secure your southern boarder on your own!

Then you can have your own college academics system. The NCAA will get along fine without you.
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02:33 PM on 06/07/2010
Except that Texas pays more to the Federal Gov't than it receives so...perhaps it could "come up with the funds" if the Federal Govt wasn't confiscating it.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/22685.html
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Hapakanaka
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03:00 PM on 06/07/2010
Texas obviously needs that extra money for education.