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Alvin Greene A GOP 'Plant'? James Clyburn Warns Of 'Shenanigans' With South Carolina Candidate

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 06/10/10 12:16 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:45 PM ET

Alvin Greene Plant James Clyburn
James Clyburn accused surprise South Carolina Democratic Senate candidate Alvin Greene of being "someone's plant" on Thursday.

Is something fishy going on with Alvin Greene, the man who clinched an unlikely victory to become the Democratic nominee for South Carolina Senate? Fellow South Carolinian Rep. James Clyburn (D) thinks so, and on Thursday went as far as to say that Greene might be a "Republican plant."

Speaking with liberal radio show host Bill Press, Clyburn questioned Greene's improbable victory (Greene had no campaign signs, no website, and was largely invisible in the lead-up to Tuesday's primary) and said that his candidacy warranted an investigation by the U.S. Attorney's office.

"There were some real shenanigans going on in the South Carolina primary," Clyburn said of Tuesday's race. "I don't know if he was a Republican plant; he was someone's plant."

Clyburn said the circumstances of Greene's entry and eventual upset of the race were baffling.

"What is an unemployed guy doing paying $10,000 to run for the United States Senate? That just doesn't add up," Clyburn said of Greene, an unemployed military veteran who somehow came up with the $10,400 filing fee and decided to use it to mount an unlikely bid against conservative champion, Sen. Jim Demint. Greene ended up taking 59 percent of the vote despite his relative anonymity.

Clyburn went on to say that a U.S. attorney should examine the possibility that his limited campaign was improperly funded by outside political interests.

"I would hope the U.S. attorney down there would look at this," Clyburn said. "I think there's some federal laws being violated in this race...Somebody gave him that $10,000 and he who took it should be investigated, and he who gave it should be investigated."

The South Carolina Democratic party asked Greene to withdraw his Democratic nomination on Wednesday after it came out that he was facing a felony obscenity charge after allegedly showing inappropriate pictures to a college student last fall.

UPDATE:

Clyburn gave an interview to Talking Points Memo later Thursday and pushed the issue further, saying that a potential probe by the U.S. Attorney's office should extend to two other African-American Democrats whom he believes may also be party impostors with ulterior motives.

"The party's choice in the 1st Congressional district lost. The party's choice for U.S. Senate lost. Sounds like a pattern to me," Clyburn told Talking Points Memo.

Apart from Greene, Clyburn alleged that Gregory Brown, who mounted an unsuccessful campaign against Clyburn for the 6th Congressional seat, and Ben Frasier, who triumphed over state Democratic party-backed candidate Robert Burton to become the nominee for the 1st Congressional district, were also plants.

Asked by Talking Points Memo about Clyburn's accusations, Burton campaign manager Ann Beser said that something was "radically wrong."

From TPM:

Beser said that since election night the Burton campaign has been doing precinct tallies and has seen numbers that far surpass what turnout had expected to be, including all-white precincts where Greene beat Senate candidate Victor Rawl and Frasier beat Burton. Both Rawl and Burton are white. "None of it makes sense," she said.

Read the whole report here.

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Is something fishy going on with Alvin Greene, the man who clinched an unlikely victory to become the Democratic nominee for South Carolina Senate? Fellow South Carolinian Rep. James Clyburn (D) think...
Is something fishy going on with Alvin Greene, the man who clinched an unlikely victory to become the Democratic nominee for South Carolina Senate? Fellow South Carolinian Rep. James Clyburn (D) think...
 
 
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Kyle Lacio
01:20 AM on 06/15/2010
The South Carolina ES&S electronic voting machines were purchased surplus from Louisiana after that state outlawed them. The votes can be changed with a magnet or handheld electronic device such as a Palm Treo “smartphone.â€
http://www.free-times.com/index.php?ShowArticle_ID=11461501080666647&cat=1992912064017974
05:11 PM on 06/12/2010
It's hilarious the crazy allegations the poor, poor party machine is tossing out just because their favored candidate (Mr. Rawls) lost the primary.

Yes, it's true that no one knew who Mr. Greene was.

However, just a week prior to the election, polling in S.C. showed that a whopping 82 percent of the state had never even heard of Mr. Rawls, either.

Of the 18 percent who HAD heard of Mr. Rawls, only 5% had a favorable opinion of him.

So what is strange about the fact that amongst 2 relative unknowns, and the one thoroughly disliked by the 1/5 of the populace who did know him, the other carried a surprise victory?
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deepintheheartoftejas
Middle o/t Road = Yellow stripes & dead armadillos
04:50 PM on 06/12/2010
What kind of charge is "looking at obscenity on the internet"? Is because he showed it to another over-18 adult? If that's a crime, why is Federal appellate judge (and Reagan appointee) Alex Kozinski still sitting on the bench? He ran an actual website with such pictures, and forwarded the link to numerous people.
07:15 PM on 06/11/2010
I'd invite people to check out Nate Silver's analysis on this issue over on fivethirtyeight.com

Nothing conclusive, but there is no significant relationship between race and votes for Greene (Green won slightly lower percentages in less white districts).

High turnout wasn't an anomaly as there was the hotly contested governor's race.

And a person had to choose to vote whether to vote for Republican primary candidates or Democrats at the polling station. Meaning if they chose to vote on the Democratic slate (to vote for Green) they gave up the opportunity to make a difference in the governor's race. That would have been insane, since people cared about the governor's race and DeMint is a lock.
07:18 PM on 06/11/2010
I misspoke above, Green won slightly lower percentages in *whiter* districts.
11:40 AM on 06/12/2010
Greene also won more votes in 25 precincts then there were total votes cast. Did Nate explain how that happened?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#37651099
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Heru1
speaking Truth to power
07:08 PM on 06/11/2010
Alvin Greene appears to be brain damaged. Perfect choice for GOP tool.
12:36 AM on 06/12/2010
But he's a dem tool!
11:14 AM on 06/15/2010
http://politifi.com/news/Your-morning-jolt-Hank-Johnson-and-a-capsizing-Guam-370886.html

Why are you people defending a man that appears to be less intelligent than Greene?
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easterncharacter
06:48 PM on 06/11/2010
So establishment guys lost, because people don't like how they did their job, no conspiracy here. Small guys won, and some people up there are upset
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Baileygk
homosexual socialist, and proud of it!
06:44 PM on 06/11/2010
I'd like to know who was answering his questions last night on Olberman. It was quite obvious someone was trying to feed him answers. I liked watching him hitting his ear when he tried coming up with answers.
04:02 AM on 06/13/2010
You could even hear another person talking. KO said it was thought to be Greene's lawyer.
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brt929
06:37 PM on 06/11/2010
This is looking more like Rethugilan dirty tricks. They just looked at the data at Fivethirtyeight.com. It looks like the majority of Greene's votes came from white districts, so the theory that African-Americans knew Greene was a black man because of the spelling of his name, has just been dispelled.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

The evidence is starting to look like Rethugilan dirty tricks. I can't imagine that this is that difficult to investigate and find out the truth.
12:25 PM on 06/12/2010
Well, dear, you can't dismiss the FACT that DEMOCRAT VOTERS decided he was the guy for them. What could it have been? The color of his skin perhaps? Or maybe the name "Alvin" struck a chord as belonging to one of their own.

Too bad Martin's plea for the content of character over the color of skin never sank in.

ANY serious citizen does his/her due diligence before entering the voting booth. Too bad we've grown into a nation where the majority now thinks that racial bonds mean more than intelligence, character, accomplishment, and adherence to Constitutional governance.

As for the cries of racism, I'd vote for Bobby Jindal for President in a heartbeat, and the last time I checked, he was pretty darned brown. Ditto for Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, Condolezza Rice, J.C. Watts. . .shall I go on?
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brt929
01:02 PM on 06/12/2010
Well, of course you seemed to missing the point don't you? Democrats DID NOT vote for him, white Rethugs did. SC has an OPEN primary. So, your specious statement about "content of character" is quite comical. The last Rethug with character is long dead.

Jindal and the Blacks on your list carry the water for the Rethugs- the Plantation Party. They mistakenly think they achieved everything on their own, and that is clearly not possible. None of them have stood by or contributed to the black community. They are takers- they are examples of a total lack of conscious.

But you know, you have no credibility anyway. Who cares what a tool like you has memorized. It isn't as if you are actually capable of independent thought.
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justthomas
04:59 PM on 06/11/2010
This is nothing but a GOP Plot. Cant believe Democratic Party will authorise a felon who does not know how to say explain his ideas in words . Watch Mr. Greene's interview with Keith Olberman.
12:27 PM on 06/12/2010
And, the plot surely followed voters into the booth and FORCED all those brilliant DEMOCRATS to pull the lever for good ole Alvin.

Face it. This says more about the intelligence of those voters than it does about Mr. Green.

Can you say "banana republic"?
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billw8017
History looks like this
03:59 AM on 06/15/2010
Apparently, many of them voted Greene several times before leaving the booth.

This is like the Florida vote of 2000 when the "Democrat" who designed the tricky ballot had retired from Jeb Bush's campaign and returned to work for the governor later the next year. While W Bush's name was at the top and he had the first box, Gore had the third box despite having the second place on the ballot as the second referred to a candidate on the facing page.

Face it. Just because you need some smarts to vote Democrat doesn't mean you should be proud any idiot can vote for a Republican.
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judibluiz
There is no planet B
06:22 PM on 06/12/2010
I did, and wow. Just wow. I'd sure like to know where Mr. Greene got the $10,000.
11:10 AM on 06/15/2010
I would like to know where Obama got a billion dollars to run for president!
04:18 PM on 06/11/2010
I like his political views as described by GreenvilleOnline.com on May 25. For example, "Alvin Greene is for wrapping up the wars in the Middle East and using that money for domestic programs, such as job creation, education and Social Security.", while his primary opponent Vic Rawl is "not happy with the situation in Afghanistan but said he understands it", whatever that means.

Link: http://www.greenvilleonline.com/article/20100525/NEWS/305250032/Former-judge-newcomer-challenge-for-Senate
03:23 PM on 06/11/2010
I always KNEW Jim DeMint was a corrupt louse, but this takes the cake!
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gypsysailor
Things that might have been never were.
03:14 PM on 06/11/2010
Florida 2000. Ohio 2004. South Carolina 2010. The republicans are at it again.
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alicam
03:31 PM on 06/11/2010
There is no depth they cannot reach
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12:33 PM on 06/11/2010
Alvin Greene was on the ballot legally and people legally voted for him... Is there some sort of Law, Rules or Regulations in S.C. that require he raise millions, appear for numerous TV interviews, purchase 1000's of worthless campaign signs, run expensive AD's in local papers, have a Facebook and Twitter account or even be backed by the Party he represents?

Is it Mr. Green's fault the S.C. Democratic Party and his opponents didn't even bother to check him out, offer to debate him or even just acknowledge his very existence on the ballot?

If there is any real failure here it lies at the feet of the S.C. Democratic Party and their anointed candidate...
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colah
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01:07 PM on 06/11/2010
lol
05:24 PM on 06/11/2010
I completely agree. If Mr. Greene's electoral victory is the result of some nefarious plot then the Democrats in S.C. only have themselves to blame. Are we to believe the the voters in the Democratic primary of S.C. are so blindly loyal to the Democratic party that they will just vote for any Democrat? Did the party-anointed candidate fail to inspire? If an unknown can come in and win the Senate Democratic primary in S.C. without really trying then what does that say about the Democratic party in that state? Look in the mirror S.C. Democrats!
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12:25 PM on 06/11/2010
Is South Carolina Candidate Sen. Alvin Greene A GOP 'Plant'? VOTE

http://www.youpolls.com/default.asp
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Nickolette Sanello
11:38 AM on 06/11/2010
It's pretty obvious since SC primaries our open allowing for crossover voting to occur.