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Evanston's Saggy Pants Ban Moves Forward

First Posted: 06/10/10 03:13 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:45 PM ET

Saggy Pants

Municipalities trying to outlaw the wearing of sagging pants is nothing new. In 2004, the entire states of Louisiana and Virginia both tried to pass laws banning baggy pants--calling the trend public indecency. Now, north suburban Evanston wants to outlaw sagging trousers.

Members of Evanston's Human Services Committee voted in favor of a redefinition of public nudity at a Monday night meeting in the suburb, WBBM reports.

The new ordinance adds a few descriptors to the town's preexisting public indecency policy, and states that "the showing of the human male or female genitals, pubic areas or buttocks, or female breasts with less than a full opaque covering of any portion thereof below the top of the nipple" should be banned.

WBBM reports:

Alderman Lionel Jean-Baptiste proposed the ordinance in response to a trend among some youth wearing their pants too low.

Jean-Baptiste also expressed concerns about the long-term health effects of saggy pants on wearers as they walk and try to keep their pants hitched up.

While other bans popping up across the country usually target gang violence, Evanston lawmakers seem more offended by a peep show they did not want from an arrestee:


The issue first came to the committee's attention in a police report.

Police reported asking a young man to raise his arms. When he did, his pants slid to the ground. Underneath he was wearing nothing.

"Frankly, government shouldn't be telling us how to dress," American Civil Liberties Union spokesman Edwin Yohnka told CBS regarding the proposed ban. "If they create an ordinance, so if their pants exposing X amount of underwear, so what are the police going to do, carry around rulers and then you start stopping and questioning and measuring?"

The bans have been deemed unconstitutional in other parts of the country.

Evanston's ban would slap those wearing too-low pants with a fine of up to $750. A similar ban exists in suburban Lynwood, where the fine is just $25.

WBBM reports that during Monday's meeting, Evanston resident Betty Ester asked what length officials would go to impose their standards--asking why certain beachwear is somehow less offensive than saggy pants. WBBM reports:


"As a bikini wearer," said Alderman Jane Grover, "I think we're looking to regulate what you cover, and not how you cover it. A bikini covers all the right parts."

Pants can sag and still cover one's private parts, "and it wouldn't violate our public nudity ordinance," said Grover, an attorney. "The ordinance was just looking to define what nudity is, to give clarity to our Police Department so they understood where the lines were and to make clear public expectation of what you cover."

The full City Council will review the proposal before it becomes law.


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Municipalities trying to outlaw the wearing of sagging pants is nothing new. In 2004, the entire states of Louisiana and Virginia both tried to pass laws banning baggy pants--calling the trend public ...
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DevonTexas
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10:41 AM on 06/14/2010
I can't help but laugh when I see a young man with his pants hanging below his butt. My favorite was a guy with bright red underwear walking down the street. After he passed by, all you could see was this huge red butt! I nearly pee'd myself with laughter!
I just wish the style was popular with the girls. Much more interesting that way.
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gregcurts
Any belief worth having must survive doubt”
09:55 AM on 06/12/2010
I tend to like baggy jeans, not on myself...it allows me to quickly identify the criminal element.
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07:18 PM on 06/13/2010
really???to identify the stupid element im sure you use a mirror.
09:41 AM on 06/12/2010
I'm not seeing where this law bans saggy pants. It appears to ban indecent exposure of skin.
06:38 PM on 06/11/2010
"Pants on the ground, pants on the ground, looking like a fool with your pants on the ground." Elderly gentleman from American idol. He got it right.
03:38 PM on 06/11/2010
This is ridiculous... 95% of them where shorts under the pants anyway, nothing is exposed. What I think is even worse is these guys running around with skin tight jeans on... thats not something I'm trying to see on a man.
11:15 AM on 06/11/2010
This is just another example of the Evanston City Council failing to address their prime responsibilities. When are they going to figure out how to solve the problem of their giant deficits and enormous tax burden while Vampire University sucks the life out of all the residents? These people don't just tilt at windmills or plan them for the lake, they manufacture illusions of how their lives on the lakefront should apply to those of us on the wrong side of the El tracks. I say, let them wear their pants around their knees. The libertarians on the City council should recognize the right of free expression and allow the panty boys to make fools of themselves when and where ever they wish. It just makes it that much harder for them to run away.
10:53 AM on 06/11/2010
So this is essentially a regressive law, almost wholly intended for African-American males. Might as well come out with it and ban Fubu. This is like the rule in a bar where I used to live (Huntsville AL) that doesn't allow people with long polos or baggy pants. Racism in its most evident form.
10:29 AM on 06/13/2010
Ummm, nope. I grew up in Evanston. Alderman Lionel Jean-Baptiste is black.
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Ladyrantsalot
The bell tolls for thee.
06:06 PM on 06/13/2010
Actually a lot of the teens in Evanston--black and white-- let their baggy pants slip past their bums. Teenagers are conformist lemmings. The fashion will soon change and soon they will be hitching their pants up to their rib cages, like the 70s.
04:33 AM on 06/11/2010
The styles will change soon enough.
12:48 AM on 06/11/2010
Oh,i think this picture is talk about how to wear the jean like the hip hop style. So nowaday we are all get alot of modern and update style to the perform everyday life. Guest what ,it is about the new think of new generation.
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12:39 AM on 06/14/2010
That was the most charming post I think I've ever read.
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Jasel
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09:19 PM on 06/10/2010
Everytime I hear about these Saggy Pants Ban attempts the only word that comes to mind is: Stupid.

And NOT regarding the people who sag their pants like idiots, which in itself is stupid enough.
10:44 PM on 06/10/2010
Let it go. I agree that very soon everyone will feel silly/stupid. It's kids-- or wannabe kids. We have to worry about the adults, and what we're doing to this planet.
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08:34 PM on 06/10/2010
Oh the irony! As a 24yr blk male who considers himself a libertarian, I'm all for this ban. Bring it on!
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Bude
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05:25 PM on 06/10/2010
The Illinois supreme court is busy with real issues but I suppose they will find time for this.

Not that they need much help, but this gives elected officials a bad name.
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pinkeyelemonade
Had Enough? Vote Green Party.
04:50 PM on 06/10/2010
Racially motivated, much?
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
04:01 PM on 06/10/2010
What is it about government that just attracts these control freaks like an ALANON meeting on New Years Eve?
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PalaceOfWisdom
Obama signed away habeus corpus
03:59 PM on 06/10/2010
The guys I saw last week had the seat of their pants all the way down at knee level. Had they stood up straight their pants would have hit the ground. Some day a rapper will wear his shoes on the wrong feet with the laces tied together and young "urban" males will mimic him. Why don't community leaders counsel their youth against embracing stereotypes?
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ItAintNoRocketScience
05:58 PM on 06/10/2010
Because that takes too much time, and doesn't raise any revenue...
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08:31 PM on 06/10/2010
you're obviously oblivious to urban punk musicians style of dress or deliberately choose not to acknowledge "urban" ppl arent the only ppl sagging their pants. Some day a drummer will pierce his eyelid and scratch his cornea and young suburbanites will mimic him :/
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PalaceOfWisdom
Obama signed away habeus corpus
10:59 AM on 06/11/2010
I've seen the guys you're talking about. They mostly frequent shopping malls. I call them "urban samurai" because that's what their style of baggy yet belted pants resembles. Also, they usually wear shirts with anime or Japanese symbols. They dress badly, but at least their clothes stay on. And yes, they could use a good talking to about facial hardware and its impact on future employment.