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House Targets Underwater Homeowners

First Posted: 06/10/10 03:24 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:45 PM ET

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The House GOP launched an assault Thursday on homeowners who walk away from underwater mortgages, arguing that such foreclosed-on former homeowners are using the money they save to dine out and go on cruises.

"The Wall Street Journal has reported on families that have chosen to stop paying their mortgage and instead use the extra money they are saving each month to 'buy season tickets to Disneyland...take a Carnival cruise to Mexico...' and go out to dinner more often," says House Republican leadership in an e-mail to colleagues explaining the anti-strategic-default effort.

In other words, consumers with more money tend to spend it, spurring demand -- exactly what the economy needs. More than a few economists argue that the ongoing jobless crisis is a direct result of a lack of consumer demand. A homeowner stuck in an underwater mortgage is, each month, paying off a mortgage that is worth more than their home. The increased cost of housing means that money that could otherwise could be circulated through the economy - at restaurants, Disneyland, or on cruises, for instance - is sent off to Wall Street, whose profits have been soaring despite the economic downturn.

The GOP offered its provision as a "motion to recommit," which is one of the minority party's few ways to amend a bill on the floor. Known as an MTR, the motion is generally stripped out in the Senate if it is adopted in the House. Such measures are put forward more to score political points than to craft policy, but the mood of the House can sometimes be gleaned from the vote's outcome. In this case, Democrats chose not to fight, and accepted the motion with a simple voice vote.

Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Economy.com and an adviser to John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign, says that strategically defaulting is "a form of stimulus, a little tax cut." Estimates of the number of homeowners are underwater range from 10 to 15 million.

Dean Baker, an economist with the progressive-leaning Center for Economic Policy and Research, agreed that strategic defaults are good for the economy, but also noted the irony that the GOP effort interferes with the market.

When Democrats were pushing to enact "cram down," which would allow judges to rewrite mortgage contracts in bankruptcy court, conservative Democrats and the GOP argued that it would violate the "sanctity of the contract."

There is only sanctity, however, for one side of that contract. "It also disgusts me that the Republicans would use Big Government to interfere with the sanctity of contract," said Baker in an e-mail. "Those who do a strategic default are complying with their contract. The deal was that the banks get back the house if the homeowner doesn't pay the mortgage. Now, the Republicans are arguing that the nanny state has to look out for the little boys and girls at the big banks who are too dumb to understand contracts. They are going to use the power of the government to punish people because they acted on the terms of the contract to the disadvantage of the banks."

Baker said that the GOP position should put to a rest the assumption that liberals favor big government while conservatives favor free markets. He doubted that it would, however.

"It's kind of an overreach by the federal government, isn't it?" teased Rep. George Miller (D-Calif.), chairman of the Education & Labor Committee, when told of the GOP motion. He said he hadn't been aware of the voice vote, but said he was sure it wouldn't become law. The motion, he said, is indicative of GOP priorities.

"They're back to punishing the poor guy that got stuck with the subprime mortgage and we haven't yet figured out what to do with the people who gave them the mortgage," said Miller.

Economist James Galbraith said that in their zeal to protect banks, the GOP may actually have gone further than the banks would like. "The banks are actually tolerating defaults, because they do not wish to recognize the losses. A fair amount of free cash in the system now is there because the banks are deferring foreclosures, which they do because otherwise the losses would affect their profit statements, bonuses and solvency. They have the option of pressing for foreclosures, but they aren't using it in many cases for this reason," he said.

This story has been updated to include the Democratic acceptance of the MTR.

Read the GOP memo on their motion to recommit:

From: [GOP Floor Staff] Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: WHIP LD Alert: Republican Motion to Recommit FHA Reform


The Republican Motion to Recommit H.R. 5072, the FHA Reform Act, would amend the bill to prohibit individuals who strategically default on their mortgage from accessing the FHA program and protect taxpayers from financing a bailout of FHA programs.

Strategic Defaults

A strategic default occurs when a borrower decides to stop paying their mortgage even though they can still afford their payments. It is usually undertaken by those who owe more on their mortgage than their home is currently worth.

The Wall Street Journal has reported on families that have chosen to stop paying their mortgage and instead use the extra money they are saving each month to "buy season tickets to Disneyland...take a Carnival cruise to Mexico..." and go out to dinner more often.

Companies have even sprung up to capitalize on the new trend with websites advising people (for a fee) on how to go about a strategic default. These companies actually advertise that after a few years an individual who chooses to default on their mortgage should be able to buy a home again, including through government loan agencies.

60 Minutes reported on individuals who defend their decision to strategically default saying, "...with the money savings that I will have in four to six years, I'm confident I'll have money to buy my way into a house if I want to."

Strategic defaults raise costs for responsible borrowers, many of whom may currently be struggling to make their mortgage payment themselves, but who take their obligations to pay their debts seriously. The MTR would ensure that no one who chooses to simply stop paying their mortgage, even though they can afford to do so, is able to benefit in the future from the government's FHA program.

Future Bail-Outs

The Republican motion also protects American taxpayers from possible future bailouts of FHA programs. Washington currently has a bailout culture at the expense of hard-working Americans and this MTR puts into place protections against FHA receiving a taxpayer-backed bailout.

The Republican MTR is a vote to expose and prevent fraud and abuse from FHA and protect the American taxpayer from another Washington bailout.


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The House GOP launched an assault Thursday on homeowners who walk away from underwater mortgages, arguing that such foreclosed-on former homeowners are using the money they save to dine out and go on ...
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TheCrimeDog
09:33 PM on 07/03/2010
BS ... absolutely BS.

The Democrats ... specifically Obama ... walked away from the Bankruptcy Cramdown Bill ... and have no intention of fighting for it.

Obama walked away from the foreclosure issue altogether ... struggling homeowners ... you're on your own ... the Obama Administration represents the Wall Street Banks ... not struggling homeowners on Main Street.

But how can you criticize the smartest President we have ever had ... I mean the guy's magic is magic ... right ?
06:37 PM on 06/30/2010
#1 : the GOP needs to be put in front of a firing squad yesterday
#2 : everyone who is is underwater must stop paying their mortgages or the banks will never do anything constructive
#3 : the banks have ALREADY been paid from the mortgage insurance and are now just double-dipping when they accept any defaulted mortgage $...PURE PROFIT
#4 : the entire situation is an offensive, reprehensible and inhumane monstrosity of a mess created by greedy bankers
#5 : NOTHING will be resolved until the banks take in the rear and MARK ALL THEIR TOXIC ASSETS TO MARKET! ...and NO!!! they don't get anymore assistance (they should never have received any in the first place) if they fail then let them fail...."they took the risk" ...isn't that the crap excuse they dump on their customers ? they are a blight on society ...they can go #$%* themselves ...and if they need directions on how to do that too....there's a bunch of us happy to help.
08:47 PM on 06/27/2010
There may be a tiny silver lining for home owners and for a while home builders sitting on a stock of unsold homes. That would be in the event of passage of the proposed VAT. I may be wrong, but everything that I've been able to find out, indicates that existing homes at the time of passage would be exempt from the VAT. Were that the case, then the 8k would become a speck in comparison to the addition to the cost of the median priced house due to the VAT. With the dramatic increases in the sales prices of new homes to cover the VAT, existing new homes and homes currently owned would see a marked rebound in their value and many would recover from being upside down. In many areas this is only a pipe dream as their increases exceeded the market, but in other areas it may help a few..... any accountants out there that might be able to flesh out this thought?
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earlyblue
05:13 AM on 06/17/2010
RecentRetiredVet, I saw you responded to my reply to you from a few days ago so I hope this new reply finds you well. Yes, you are correct, the mainstream media is in on it all - sadly. News isn't information anymore, it's spin. May I point you to an award winning website: www.mediamatters.org
The founder, David Brock, was once a republican operative that had a crisis of conscience when he finally realized he was asked to lie all the time by the right-wing think tanks and his
republican bosses.
They daily cover the horrible lies and misinformation in the right-wing (mainstream media).
The ultimate goal is to squash the wise owls (like you and I) with the sheer weight of the manipulatable sheep (majority of Americans). Confuse, yell loudly, accuse, lie, misinform, scare with passion. American's who just pick up bits and pieces of "news" and who are not junkies who dig deep for the truth, cannot POSSIBLY make sense of all this confusion. That is the goal of the corporate/industrial/military media and their wealthy owners/lobbyists/politicians. War/industry/profit - the new "news." Beck and Limbaugh do not believe all the excrement they spew. They are paid handsomely, 30M+ annually each, to shock and scare American's into believing that liberals are evil. Ironically, it is only progressive liberals that can save this country from the treasury robbers on the right.
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ziger123
All you need is unconditional love and acceptance
03:29 AM on 06/15/2010
Yikes! another witch hunt for the small percentage who default on their completely under water loans when the banks won't do a d@#$%mn thing to work with the homeowners.
www.congress.org to find your Reps and Senators along with contact info and voting records.
www.fairelectionsnow.org to take the big money out of politics so our elected officials can work for us during their term instead of campaigning for cash and reelection.
www.usa.gov lists all fed, state and local govt's.
02:45 PM on 06/14/2010
the ONLY solution: EVERYONE who is upside down on their mortgage MUST strategicaly default immediately. The only way to stop this insanity and to choke the power of the banks is to stop paying mortgages immediately. Banks would cease to have access to monthly cash funds, their liquidity would reach critical mass and they would be forced to deal with the reality that THEY violated every fiduciary responsibility and get real. Homeowners should pay all their other bills and enjoy each day, let the banks fail....it should have happened 2 years ago! .....lest we forget we has Bush and Paulson back then ....THEY are who TRULY FOCHT AMERICA!
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HJS2010
02:13 PM on 06/13/2010
Why can CEO's and politicians rape the taxpayers/consumers? Why is it OK for them to cheat/abuse the system? But the taxpayer/consumer can not.
11:51 AM on 06/14/2010
That's a great question. Perhaps it's because they're considered people and we are not.
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Bertalein
Human Being
04:51 PM on 06/17/2010
coudl it be that we are the "small" people?
12:32 AM on 06/15/2010
Have you not heard the saying "The beatings will continue until the moral improves", get ready for some more beatings. HA!
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WoolStreet
12:49 AM on 06/13/2010
Bank Wh@res.
02:00 PM on 06/12/2010
More government interference in housing, how has that worked out for ya so far?
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
03:06 PM on 06/12/2010
Just fine actually, since it was only a LACK of government interference which led to the housing bubble....
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WoolStreet
12:51 AM on 06/13/2010
There wasn't a lack of federal intereference from the OCC who blocked states from doing anything,

From Congress granting SUPERPRIORITY to Credit Default Swaps, (ie Insurance fraud swaps)

Truly King George politics
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karen1p
03:34 AM on 06/13/2010
FINE? FINE? Excuse me? I'm not sure if you have been doing your homework.....but HAMP is a total failure.
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HJS2010
01:59 PM on 06/13/2010
How has the lack of government interference in housing worked in the SHRUB yrs? Must not be good. Since we are talking about this subject!
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Mr Hankey
Kucinich / Sanders (Democratic Socialist)
12:01 AM on 06/12/2010
This just adds insult to injury.

Time to write some scathing letters.
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karen1p
03:37 AM on 06/13/2010
H3LL yeah. I'm with you. I will find out who voted this in and they will have my wrath. I will make a few pointed phone calls to my reps (a lot of good all that effort will do.)

And then I think I will cut myself a nice big piece of cake.....that's all that's left folks.
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Mr Hankey
Kucinich / Sanders (Democratic Socialist)
10:05 PM on 06/11/2010
How the heck would a lender/mortgage holder to know for sure if a default was strategic vs someone who is in dire financial trouble?

I certainly do not want Bend Over America to have information about my bloodied bank accounts in Wells Fargo....or maybe they already do! Are banks allowed to share that information?
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Mr Hankey
Kucinich / Sanders (Democratic Socialist)
09:58 PM on 06/11/2010
WHAT!?! - Dining out and taking cruises? - The GOP is completely out of touch with reality!

I haven't read this whole article yet, and I am outraged at the audacity! I have to read this whole thing, then chill before I explode on here.

Too many hypocrites in charge
http://www.therealestatebloggers.com/%20/housing-general/mortgage-banker-association-takes-30-million-dollar-loss-on-real-estate/
04:40 PM on 06/11/2010
I am pleased that at least one party has the interests of the taxpayers at heart.

Our government has given huge amounts of our tax dollars to bail out banks and passed legislation to help deserving homeowners. Anyone involved who abuses the system and the generosity of the American people needs to be prosecuted.
07:07 PM on 06/11/2010
If we did that the Republican party would disappear.
03:28 AM on 06/13/2010
Oh please, where do we start? The huge amounts of tax dollars were to bail out the banks. Period. NOT to help deserving homeowners. Keep on guzzling that kool aid.
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HJS2010
01:55 PM on 06/13/2010
I agree.

Thats some bad kool aid! Must have crack in it.

GOP = DO AS I SAY AND NOT AS I DO!

THE CEO's and politicians need to be prosecuted. Not the struggling home owners!
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Erdgeist
per omnia extrema
03:13 PM on 06/11/2010
When you consider that Bush gave the green light through the OCC for predatory lending back in 2003 (a), it seems almost heroic to walk away from a loan where your were nothing more than prey in the eyes of the lender.

(a) http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/13/AR2008021302783_pf.html
03:35 PM on 06/11/2010
Well this is very nice!

A link to a partisan, disgraced liberal democrat,currently unemployed for demonstrating to the world his egregiously bad judgment.

You think you could possibly dredge up a more tainted and worthless opinion piece?

Just sayin.
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04:44 PM on 06/11/2010
Um, Elliott Spitzer is hardly discredited on the law. He got in trouble with women, just like many, many on your side of politics. Spitzer knows where corruption is in the financial system, and he calls it out. So, try again to put your fingers in your ears when hearing the FACTS does not please you. So typical of the righties.
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LeftRight
TANSTAAFL
06:38 PM on 06/11/2010
If this was an article about keeping the sanctity of your marriage, then you might have a point, but THIS is akin to claiming that a person has no first amendment rights because they didn't serve in the military!
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bassface49
2010 NEVER AGAIN! VOTE WITH A FRIEND!!
05:09 PM on 06/11/2010
While the 'cons' in Congress diverted 'Fannie' and 'Freddie' by going after them, the 'Countrywide's of our Country' were given the opportunity to roll out the 'sub prime' products that became the 'toxic assets' that would be 'shredded' and scattered into the 'mortgage bonds' that would infect the world's economy.
They were packaging bonds 'specifically' to fail, so they could bet against them.

Corporation: an a-moral entity whose success is based on corporate 'profits'.
Republican Party: an a-moral entity whose success is based on corporate 'profits'.
Period, sparkless!
fanned
05:22 PM on 06/11/2010
I gave you links earlier to videos of democrats aggressively protecting Fanny & Freddie and fighting against republican calls for regulation.

Were you really thinking of sneaking back here and posting that nonsense again?
02:41 PM on 06/11/2010
bassface49 20 minutes ago (2:17 PM)
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Don't need 'em.
I check out your 'propagandists' all the time for the 'comic' relief' unlike you 'book burners', I relish information.
What is it with you 'cons' and your 'junkie' heroes.......

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Frankly sport, I don't offer partisan sources and don't accept them.
If you can't support your argument without resorting to a partisan information source.... then, you simply can't support your argument.

I will support this comment by inviting you to please review my posts and see if you are able to locate links to such places as Glen Beck, FNC or any other demonstrably partisan source.

Otherwise, can the rant.
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axollot
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02:50 PM on 06/11/2010
I havent seen the links but can say this - it doesnt have to be connected directly to Beck, Rush or FNC for most of us to see it. There is this thing called the "echo chamber" that comes out of the RW and if your only source is a RW site then it's going to get canned.
02:52 PM on 06/11/2010
Perhaps you ought to reread the comment sport.
Slower this time though.
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as if
Guard against impostures of pretended patriotism
03:47 PM on 06/11/2010
You accept Glenn Beck as a source but you don't accept "partisan" sources.

Way to take the moral high ground.
03:59 PM on 06/11/2010
I'll quote myself for your benefit, though I'm a little disturbed that you need me to:

"Frankly sport, I don't offer partisan sources and don't accept them.
If you can't support your argument without resorting to a partisan information source.... then, you simply can't support your argument.

I will support this comment by inviting you to please review my posts and see if you are able to locate links to such places as Glen Beck, FNC or any other demonstrably partisan source.

Otherwise, can the rant. "
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axollot
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04:19 PM on 06/11/2010
Fanned and fav'ed! Bob's a bitter partisan hack.