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Exxon Valdez Integral To Dem Talking Points On BP

First Posted: 06/14/10 02:07 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:45 PM ET

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Hoping to pave the way for a series of legislative responses to the oil spill in the Gulf, Democrats on the Hill have begun incorporating the Exxon Valdez crisis into their official talking points.

A leadership aide sent to the Huffington Post some Democratic talking points that emphasize that the response to the 1989 spill -- which was until now the largest environmental crisis in U.S. history -- is a template that Congress must seek to avoid.

• And as we've learned from past experiences like the Exxon Valdez spill, some corporations would often rather pay legal fees to fight payment for damages than help the victims.


• Exxon Valdez was found responsible for $3.8 billion in economic damages and clean-up costs - and the Gulf Coast oil spill is feared to be at least 6 times worse in volume.

The first point is the more crucial of the two. For the past few weeks, senators have been making a strong push to increase BP's liability in the wake of the current spill. Three unanimous consent measures to accomplish that, however, have all been blocked by Republicans. Invoking the legacy of Exxon Valdez -- in which the oil company was able to drag out paying a portion of damages through extensive litigation -- is an effort to cast the debate in more dire terms.

By Monday morning, the bullet points were being put to frequent and full use. In a conference call centered on making the liability of BP and other companies involved in spills unlimited, Sens. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) and Patty Murray (D-Wash.) referenced the Exxon Valdez spill more than half a dozen times. The reference became so ubiquitous that at one point Menendez caught himself confusing Exxon and BP.

"Exxon said all the right things in the immediate aftermath but dragged the process to court," the senator said to start the conference call.

"Any corporation including Exxon will seek to litigate," he offered at another point.

"Those of us from the Pacific Northwest myself included, remember this very clearly 20 years ago when this happened," said Murray. "There was a long and arduous battle over cleanup... and Exxon had tremendous reserves to pay for lawyers... and you know who won. So this is an issue of fairness and we need to make sure that we don't allow BP, whose words seem to be good now... to fight this in the courts and those who lose are the small businesses and families."

"Coming from the Exxon Valdez experience here, any loophole that is created today will be plowed through by these companies," Murray added.

"We can't forget, and we have not forgotten here, with Exxon Valdez, that there are decades [of fighting] to come."

The use of Exxon Valdez as a talking point makes smart political sense -- to the extent that memories of that crisis haven't faded. There are some remarkable similarities between the two instances, down to how each White House approached them.

The question, however, may not end up being whether Democrats can create the type of political momentum to raise BP's liability cap. Even House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) has suggested he supports that effort. It's whether the legal wiggle rooms exist to do something like this retroactively. Brian O'Neill, an attorney with the firm Faegre & Benson who worked on the Exxon Valdez case, has suggested that applying a change in liability ex post facto would be unconstitutional. Others in the legal world have raised doubts as well, which is partially why Sen. Byron Dorgan (and now the Obama White House) have urged the oil company to sign a legally binding commitment to pay damages or set up a fund for their payment going forward.

Menendez, for what it's worth, said he's confident that Congress will operate under the letter of the law in making BP's liability cap retroactively unlimited.

"At the end of the day, there is no question what we are doing here... will be upheld," he said.

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11:59 AM on 06/15/2010
Dems use talking points?
08:30 AM on 06/15/2010
Oh Demrats next you will be using "Remember the Alamo".
05:42 AM on 06/15/2010
This entire toxic scenario is frightening……
Did You Know?
BP engineers alerted federal regulators at the Minerals Management Service that they were having difficulty controlling the Macondo well (Deepwater Horizon) six weeks before the disaster, according to e- mails released by the Energy and Commerce Committee.

“I don’t think this would have happened on Exxon’s watch,” Tom Bower, author of “The Squeeze: Oil, Money and Greed in the 21st Century,” said in a June 11 Bloomberg Television interview. “They’d be much more careful and much more conscious of the need to supervise subcontractors.”

WELL excuse me your sainted Exxon……. and Chevron and ConocoPhillips.

Let’s just take a look at a few of your past misdemeanours, and then we can consider again – if the moratorium on deepwater drilling should be lifted, and place it all firmly back into your nice clean hands!

http://just-me-in-t.blogspot.com/2010/06/fairy-stories-about-oil-companies.html
10:01 PM on 06/14/2010
I remember.
09:17 PM on 06/14/2010
Should be "remember the obama adminstration" cuz this is the end of his career. LOL
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08:55 PM on 06/14/2010
Republicans try to block. GOP wants liberals in blue states to pay.
08:31 PM on 06/14/2010
The FACT is that Congress CANNOT make an unlimited cap retroactive since the Constitution prohibits ex post facto laws. THAT is not even close. What CAN be done, is to cancel BPs off shore drilling permits and lease sales if they do not follow through. They have bought LOTS of leases to drilling rights in areas off coast, and THOSE are where the US can get at them.

If they don't sign a pledge to fully pay for clean-up and damages, then the US can cancell all their rights in the Gulf. THAT is legal.
10:02 PM on 06/14/2010
They can nationalize them and put TONY in jail. No Bail. Sit until trial.
06:59 PM on 06/14/2010
"official" talking points ?

Says a lot about where we are.
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pecosdog
this sht writes itself
06:16 PM on 06/14/2010
I say don't even worry about this gulf disaster anymore. It is over. The time to have worried about this and done something about it was before it happened. America has failed. There is no way to overcome the "Conservative" GOP and the drag it has on the continued existence of America. I am only relieved that the conservatives have soiled their own playground by their choice of ideological leanings. But there is no way to save the gulf now. It is over.
05:52 PM on 06/14/2010
Well, it is very good to see that our alert elected leadership is steering the boat by looking at the wake - Exxon Valdez was 21 years ago. What are they doing to help with this problem now other covering their butts with easy quotes and setting up straw men? What did they do to address the deep water Gulf of Mexico risks (vs. say developing ANWR, which is much less risky and onshore)? Answer: nothing.
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MachCrit
A red guitar, three chords and the truth
12:11 AM on 06/15/2010
The best USGS projections are that ANWR only contains enough oil to last for six months and it would take up to ten years to extract it. The real reason the conservatives want to drill there it because it's the crown jewel of the environmental movement. You know--FU politics, all the way!
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SilverWolfSigil
Social realist
08:29 AM on 06/15/2010
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
05:50 PM on 06/14/2010
BP was responsible for the response to any spills in Alaska, and thus they were responsible for the poor handling of the Exxon Valdez spill.

"I've seen this movie before. In 1989, I was a fraud investigator hired to dig into the cause of the Exxon Valdez disaster. Despite Exxon's name on that boat, I found the party most to blame for the destruction was ... British Petroleum (BP).

That's important to know, because the way BP caused devastation in Alaska is exactly the way BP is now sliming the entire Gulf Coast.

Tankers run aground, wells blow out, pipes burst. It shouldn't happen, but it does. And when it does, the name of the game is containment. Both in Alaska, when the Exxon Valdez grounded, and in the Gulf last week, when the Deepwater Horizon platform blew, it was British Petroleum that was charged with carrying out the Oil Spill Response Plans (OSRP), which the company itself drafted and filed with the government."

http://www.truth-out.org/slick-operator-the-bp-ive-known-too-well59178
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/111965?RS_show_page=0
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/7791055/BP-promised-it-could-stop-leak-10-times-bigger-than-Gulf-of-Mexico-spill.html
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MARYHOBE
At last! Finally!
05:49 PM on 06/14/2010
We all realize that this is so much worse than the Exxon Valdez; over 100 million live around the Gulf and the damage we have done to the ecosystem is still not fully abulated. What we will need from the Administration is a proper appreciation of the dangers inherent in deep water drilling and a review of safety guidelines after it has become clear that the technology for repairing a failed operation is not in our reach at this time. The assurances of safety for the oil industry were not valid and we need to make some tough choices in the weeks and months ahead.
05:54 PM on 06/14/2010
People in Louisiana are much less valuable than the vast population of the Alaska North Slope (in a state that almost universally wants ANWR developed). This is why drilling is going on in mile deep water at the boundaries of technology instead of onshore in an unpopulated area.
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pecosdog
this sht writes itself
06:20 PM on 06/14/2010
That doesn't matter. Where there is oil, they will drill. That oil is never stamped "for use in America only". It hits the market and it will just as likely power a two-banger rickety car in China as Cadillac here. I don't see the point in destroying ANWR for the sake of our country. Our country cannot overcome it's idiotic rightwing base and it won't last another 20 years because of that.
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MachCrit
A red guitar, three chords and the truth
11:55 PM on 06/14/2010
Of course Alaskans want to drill in ANWR--they are tied to the permanent fund. What an easy way to buy off the populace. Anyway, ANWR isn't their land--it belongs to all Americans, and I don't want it drilled--get it!
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mark331blue
Left leaning independent
06:19 PM on 06/14/2010
The choices the administration makes will be based on political calculations, not the truth.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
05:43 PM on 06/14/2010
Only the GOP issues a set of talking points every morning ....
09:18 PM on 06/14/2010
Yes like BHO hate B*$ck people........so do the DEMS....get a life
04:59 PM on 06/14/2010
The Democrats are only talking about TALKING POINTS. It has nothing to do with any legislation, or proposed legislation, or constitutionality. It is all soap opera.

The US Government needs a Chief Executive Officer.

The Congress needs some serious legislators, but is composed of 99% partisan hacks.

The Judicial Branch needs some justices, but is composed of about 78% partisan hacks.

We still questioning why the government is paralyzed?

We need more than our heads examined. We need our hearts, souls, minds, spirits, and guts examined. Indeed, it is unclear anyone human is still around.
05:33 PM on 06/14/2010
get all candidates to sign a legally binding contract to outlaw all political contributions for the obvious bribery they are. Public finance elections.

Till then, the conservative plutocracy rules, and the democratic republic our liberal founding fathers created, is dead.
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jan1760
The Constitution is not an instrument for the gove
05:59 PM on 06/14/2010
The founding father were not liberal, in a lot of their demeanor's and ideas they belong more in the conservative arena. You know that idea of LIMITED GOVERMENT, and the IMPORTANCE OF THE INDIVIDUAL. Sorry you can not claim them as liberal they were not! They were actualy multiple fights to stop the encroaching of CENTRAL goverment on individual rights.
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PolicyWonkette
04:37 PM on 06/14/2010
Anyone reporting on the lastest Chevron spill over the weekend? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE65C2VL20100613?type=domesticNews
http://www.ajc.com/business/chevron-oil-in-utah-548689.html
05:02 PM on 06/14/2010
Obviously God did it!

So tell those Republicrats to stop yelling "NO!" and fall down upon their knees and pray!

(That might slow down their knee-jerking.)