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'Wild People' Were Species Of Early Human, Speculates Folklorist Michael Heaney

First Posted: 06/20/10 05:02 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 05:50 PM ET

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USA Today:

Siberia's Denisova cave held the pinky bone of an unknown early human species, a genetics team reported in March. The Naturejournal study, led by Johannes Krause of Germany's Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology, offered no answer for what happened to this "archaic" human species, more than one million years old and living near their human and Neanderthal cousins as recently as 30,000 years ago.

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Siberia's Denisova cave held the pinky bone of an unknown early human species, a genetics team reported in March. The Naturejournal study, led by Johannes Krause of Germany's Max Planck Institute for ...
Siberia's Denisova cave held the pinky bone of an unknown early human species, a genetics team reported in March. The Naturejournal study, led by Johannes Krause of Germany's Max Planck Institute for ...
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angrymanspokane
Just a regular guy
03:22 PM on 06/21/2010
Some of us are more evolved than others...
01:04 PM on 06/21/2010
Their was a tribe of South American Indians unlike any other Indian in the Americas, called the Yaghan, or Canoe Indians of Terra Del Fuego. They were very hairy and went naked year round in the harsh climate the tip of South America, they could have been from a neandertal people. They went extinct when the Europeans tried to get them to wear clothes and the clothes kept them damp and they got sick and died out. They kept a hearth in their canoes to keep themselves warm.
07:04 PM on 06/21/2010
They weren't hairy; they weren't Neanderthal.

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Budokan
Professional science fiction/fantasy writer
12:39 PM on 06/21/2010
Hardly extinct. They're still around today. They're called conservatives.
12:35 PM on 06/21/2010
Robert Graves has an explanation for one eyed giants, he said they were the bones of elephants ( the elephant has one hole in the center of its skull) that early people saw and theorized that they had only one eye. I think I read that in his book "The White Goddess" or "Greek Myths" or "Hercules, My Shipmate". He had an excellent grasp of history.
Paulo1
Thanks for reading, (even if you disagree)
09:51 AM on 06/21/2010
Bah, if the HufPo wants to do a science piece it should not rely on a cross link to USA Today which is not exactly the wealth of scientific knowledge. This piece was journalistic puff and speculation.
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GonzoBrawler
Hunter S. Thompson is my hero
09:42 AM on 06/21/2010
a.k.a the RNC, & the GOP!!!
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slogward
06:31 AM on 06/21/2010
No,they survived in Brussels and now run the European Union.

http://nbyslog.blogspot.com/2010/06/revealed-whats-really-being-bailed-out.html
07:00 AM on 06/21/2010
This is old news. They already found found them in the La Brea tar pits, cloned them and now they run the California Republican party
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spandautoseattle
Things that matter. (MLK)
02:24 AM on 06/21/2010
For more than 10000 years the human population grew from a relatively small number steadily and spread slowly over this planet, in the process running into species and "strange" human relatives completely unknown to the first colonists. Insular living cousins with different appearances than that of the dominant group must have been encountered all along this time (and still we find tribes that were unknown).
How they disappeared? LOL.
"Hal...halloo, me Zurp. How do, uhm, you do..."
"It's a witch, a monster, kill, kill, kill....!"
Humans. Sometimes the answers are too easy.
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01:53 AM on 06/21/2010
There were no black ppl in Serbia.
12:47 AM on 06/21/2010
This article really is just bullocks.
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BannedInBoston
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
02:01 PM on 06/21/2010
Don't you mean "ballocks"?
06:59 PM on 06/21/2010
No, BULLOCKS. As in "Never Mind the Bullocks"
12:40 AM on 06/21/2010
Laplase75 said:

Sorry, but evolution is a fact.
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It's NOT a fact; it's a theory, and theories could become obsolete over time. Some theories in the past have become useless nowadays.
12:44 AM on 06/21/2010
so is gravity. or does your world just suck?
02:21 AM on 06/21/2010
The funny thing is that there is more factual evidence to support the theory of evolution than the theory of gravity being a force.
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01:26 AM on 06/21/2010
Anything that superceded evolution would still have to explain all of the same facts. That's a pretty tall order without it just being evolution under a different name.
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pene
critical thinker
11:20 PM on 06/20/2010
the monkey people!!!! (Battlestar Galactica, redux)
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confuseddemocrat
11:21 PM on 06/20/2010
why won't they make a BG movie?
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BannedInBoston
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
12:05 AM on 06/21/2010
Who copped the concept from "Planet of the Apes" who copped it from "The Wizard of Oz"....
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confuseddemocrat
11:17 PM on 06/20/2010
why are they classified as different species?

A species, classically, is defined as a group of genetically similar individuals which upon mating produces viable offspring (of both sexes) that are capable of reproduction

If these different homonids (neanderthals, Cro-Magnon, modern humans, "archaic hominid") were capable of interbreeding, then they represent true "races" of one human species rather than different hominid species

P.S. I think that today's classification of races are artificial since they are only based on skin color ....more likely we all represent the last remaining "racial variation" of humans
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Cinnamonape
11:34 PM on 06/20/2010
The Demisova specimen is genetically distinct from the Neanderthal samples in terms of DNA and separated at least 1 million years ago from the common Neander-modern root. No modern or Neander DNA shows intermixing with it.

Recent work suggests that modern humans outside of Africa may have interbred with Near Eastern Neanderthal individuals (though there is no evidence that European or Caucasus Neanders have modern H.sapiens genes). That level of mixing was small...perhaps 1/50 ancestors would have been from Neanderthal...49/50 would have been African "moderns".

There could have been very strong selection against hybridization...and this is seen in some organisms we normally attribute to different species (wolves-dogs-coyotes; horse-donkeys). In each of these cases there is some evidence of a small degree of past admixture...though they have since developed even stronger isolating mechanisms.

BTW Cro-Magnon is fully MODERN H.sapiens.
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BannedInBoston
Everyone is entitled to my opinion.
12:10 AM on 06/21/2010
Wrong! Lions and tigers can mate to produce offspring, as can horses and _asses (the animal variety, that is....) Closely related species within the same genus can interbreed and produce offspring. The genus in this case is _homo -- _Homo Sapiens and _Homo Neanderthalensis, separate species belonging to same genus....
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horhay
Res ipsa loquitur
02:21 AM on 06/21/2010
While I agree that closely related species within the same genus can interbreed and produce offspring. Lions and tigers are only known to have produced offspring in captivity. Their habitat ranges don't overlap in the wild. The hybrid offspring is also prone to behavioral and genetic disorders, & often not able to reproduce.

As for horses and donkeys(asses) producing offspring, the result is called a mule. Horses and donkeys chromosomes don't match up so the hybrid result of a mule is sterile/infertile. There have been some cases of female mules being able to breed, but it is very uncommon.
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whiskeytangofoxtrot451
11:17 PM on 06/20/2010
Really? A human species that died out 30,000 years ago was written about by Herodotus 2500 years ago? How did he hear about them? Some folklorist ties an ancient fossil to writings separated by 27,500 years with no evidence connecting the two and this is considered worth writing about?
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10:35 PM on 06/20/2010
Get the movie "13th Warrior" (?)