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Department Of Justice Sues Arizona To Avoid 'Patchwork' Of Immigration Laws -- Which Already Exists

First Posted: 07/06/10 06:33 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:00 PM ET

Arizona Immigration Protests

High-ranking officials at the Department of Justice argued on Tuesday that the suit they filed challenging the legality of Arizona's new immigration law was a necessary step in order to avoid a "patchwork" of policies across the country.

"This is about who in our constitutional system has the authority to formulate immigration policy," said a senior DoJ official on a conference call with reporters Tuesday afternoon. "And as the Supreme Court has explained, and we believe the constitution makes clear, constitutional and federal law do not permit the development of a patchwork of [immigration laws] throughout this country."

The argument may be persuasive politically. It also could have grounding legally. But it ignores in some respects the fact that a patchwork system is already in place. Throughout the past few years, a wide range of states, cities and municipalities have passed various forms of policies that govern immigration within their jurisdictions. None may be as draconian as the one passed by Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer. But many have been criticized as such.

In November 2007, for instance, Oklahoma passed a law that prohibited undocumented immigrants from using state services and made providing transportation or assistance to undocumented immigrants a crime. In 2006, meanwhile the city of Charlotte, North Carolina, began implementing its own set of harsh immigration laws, placing illegal immigrants directly into deportation proceedings even if they have been charged with mere traffic infractions. Likewise, in 2008 Tennessee Gov. Phil Bredesen, bowing to political pressures, passed legislation that required local jailers to determine the immigration status of prisoners.

These measures -- it could be argued -- all threaten to a certain extent the capacity to implement a uniform immigration policy that doesn't drain law enforcement resources, impact foreign relations, or impede on the federal government's purview in this area (all reasons cited by DoJ officials in support of the Arizona lawsuit). But they weren't challenged under preemption when they were passed. And none of these states or cities appear likely to be threatened with similar lawsuits going forward.

"We are concerned about a patchwork of laws that would interfere with the federal governments priorities and the federal government's authority in setting immigration policy," said the senior Department official, when asked by The Huffington Post if DoJ will be looking at other state laws. "We will look at cases as they come to us, one at a time."

Although not stated explicitly, the DoJ's lawsuit appears to have two objectives. The micro target is to strike down (or at least hold off) the Arizona statute by deeming unconstitutional. The macro campaign is to clear the field of competing or impeding immigration statutes so that the federal government can take action. "We want to avoid a patchwork of laws and this lawsuit is about Arizona," said the official. "I don't think the two are inconsistent or in conflict with each other."

But the latter objective is based on the theory that Congress will actually act. And while the administration has been able to move the ball forward in pushing back against Arizona's law, it has been confronted with inertia in moving the legislative branch.

"Certainly, this administration has committed itself to comprehensive immigration reform and that is something which the Attorney General [Eric Holder], Secretary [Janet] Napolitano, and the President said repeatedly is necessary in order to really fix our immigration problem," said the senior Department official. "That doesn't change the issue that is presented by this lawsuit and that issue is whether or not the state of Arizona can set its own immigration policy, when that policy conflicts with the federal government's own authority to set immigration law."

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High-ranking officials at the Department of Justice argued on Tuesday that the suit they filed challenging the legality of Arizona's new immigration law was a necessary step in order to avoid a "patch...
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Aaron Aarons
06:50 AM on 07/09/2010
Give Arizona back to Mexico and let the latter deal with all the Anglo immigrants and their descendants who infest the place.
12:44 AM on 07/09/2010
Almost 40% of Hispanics support the AZ bill

White voters back the idea 53 - 32 percent, while black voters oppose it 43 - 26 percent and Hispanic voters oppose it 52 - 37 percent.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1295.xml?ReleaseID=1460
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ObamAtomic
09:39 PM on 07/08/2010
CauseandEffect13 6 minutes ago (9:30 PM)
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Hey back on topic. 1070 will be upheld. No amount of your foul language will change that.
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No solo eres un mamon sino tambien un cochino racista,tu madre deberia haberte abortado
09:42 PM on 07/08/2010
Right, right personal attack. Care to address the topic?
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ObamAtomic
09:44 PM on 07/08/2010
Muy tarde para eso,querias pastel,te voy a dar pastel!
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ObamAtomic
09:59 PM on 07/08/2010
Vas a mamar cabron,querias pastel,TE VOY A DAR PASTEL!
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ObamAtomic
09:00 PM on 07/08/2010
You are real stupid,okay.
09:05 PM on 07/08/2010
"You are really stupid, okay?" Is more correct. Have I mentioned that you have no grasp of reality?
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ObamAtomic
09:10 PM on 07/08/2010
No para ti que eres un estupido la situacion cambia,tu hablando de reality?
sheeple13,LOL

Donde esta tu madre,con los puercos?
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
08:26 PM on 07/08/2010
The DOJ wants to "avoid a "patchwork" of policies across the country"

Pure fantasy for two reasons:

1. The Arizona law mirrors federal law. Is federal law a patchwork? President Obama has had a year and a half while owning both houses of the US Congress. If there is something wrong with it, he should have fixed it and should have had no problems getting it done.

2. If Mr. Obama and the Democrats in congress wanted a uniform policy towards illegal aliens he would have immediately sued San Francisco and other sanctuary cities for violations of the US Constitution. But the fact of the matter is, President Obama doesn't care about the US Constitution or carrying out his oath of office to protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. City mayors who declare their cities to be sanctuary cities are in violation of federal law, their state & US Constitutions, and their own oaths of office.

The president does not want to curb illegal border crossings and the DOJ's law suit is another distraction designed to move your attention away from our other pressing problems, such as unemployment, the economy, the US debt, Afghanistan and the bleeding in the Gulf. Problems that he is also failing to do anything about.
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ObamAtomic
09:01 PM on 07/08/2010
Stop ranting tr0llz,this isn't a neo naxi website,where you lie driveling.
09:07 PM on 07/08/2010
So there is a saying about pots calling kettles black. When you state that someone is ranting, everyone else that reads your posts realizes it must be true, as you are to ranting as Lance Armstrong is to biking.
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
02:16 PM on 07/09/2010
This site is the gathering place of people who are trying to pay attention to their government's machinations. So I come here to help.

I hope this helps.

FYI: I am only one tr0ll. :)
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BoyInBOYCOTT
09:35 PM on 07/08/2010
San Francisco is under NO OBLIGATION to use their police force to apprehend people who broke a federal ordinance. There are ICE agents who do that job, and SF doesn't prevent any ICE agent from pursuing anyone in SF.
AZ law is UNIQUE in it's racist draconian statute. NO OTHER state or federal law considers Brown = guilty until proven otherwise. NO other law has CITIZENS suing law enforcement if they don't rigourously pursue this law to the citizen's standards,,,any citizen, it doesn't even have to be an AZ citizen.
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
02:14 PM on 07/09/2010
"San Francisco is under NO OBLIGATION to use their police force to apprehend people who broke a federal ordinance"

And what of all of those federal tax dollars these cities and states took to reequip and add law enforcement personnel from Clinton's 100,000 police funding and the Department of Homeland Security money they lapped up and spent like it was someone else's money?

Besides that, everyone to takes an oath of office swears or affirms that they will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of their own state. This applies especially to local and state law enforcement executive officers (mayors, governors, etc.) It leaves little room for allowing suspected criminals to run free when one of these officers becomes aware of the suspect's status. I do not believe that selective compliance is the proper way to execute your oath of office.

If the city/county/state police discover an illegal alien, as a Minimum, an illegal alien should be detained by any law enforcement agency until the INS can take custody of those persons.

"NO OTHER state or federal law considers Brown = guilty until proven otherwise."

FYI: Az's law doesn't do that either.

Why is no one ranting at President Obama to change federal law? Is President Obama's Administration "Draconian? The Arizona law mimics federal law. You may want to read it. (http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf)
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10:09 PM on 07/21/2010
Can you please show me where in the AZ law it states "Brown = guilty until proven otherwise", or where it has race as a determining factor of someone's immigration status?
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BoyInBOYCOTT
06:58 PM on 07/08/2010
Latin@s are 1/3rd the population of AZ.
NO candidate can win in CA, CO, FL, AZ, NM, NV, or TX that doesn't secure 1/3rd of the Latin@ vote.
YOU won't have a Liabrary Board member or dog catcher when the GOP... Grand OLD Pinata gets beaten SO hard in November,,,you'll be fishing your dentures out of the Gulf of Mexico,,,dripping of BP sludge.
07:14 PM on 07/08/2010
You are assuming the white vote will remain static. A shift of 1/4 of the white vote and the Republicans win in every state but California and that state would require a 1/3 shift to make up the difference and go GOP.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
07:25 PM on 07/08/2010
I don't assume the white vote will remain static.
I expect the Evangelical leaders with mega churches with large Latin@ congregations to denounce SB 1070...and they did.
I expect the Catholic Bishops and Cardinals and Nuns who wrote scaything letters denouncing SB 1070 as racist and similar to laws in a totalitarian state....and they did
I expect mayors, colleges, cities, organizations of people of color and EVERY religion to denounce AZ and boycott the state...and they did.

any questions?
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
04:55 PM on 07/09/2010
FYI: "In Colorado, a recent Denver Post poll said 62 percent of Colorado Hispanics favor a law like Arizona’s."

(http://www.infowars.com/nearly-half-a-million-dollars-pledged-by-americans-to-fight-doj-lawsuit-against-arizona).
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BoyInBOYCOTT
05:02 PM on 07/08/2010
Republican tea-klanners who claim they are so faithful to the Constitution, and drag their little pocket book version out at the drop of a hat.

Are showing what MASSIVE hypocrites they are, when a simple court challenge to a racist law they like is brought by the U.S. Attorney General, as other administrations routinely have done with ALL KINDS of LAWS on myriads of subjects.
What's wrong don't trust the courts...many who have judges hand picked by Bush for 8 years?
05:38 PM on 07/08/2010
I don't trust an AG that gives an opinion on a law he has not read. Same goes for legislatures that vote on a bill they have not read. To me, this says they have their marching orders to operate outside the intended due process of how the country was meant to be led (i.e., under the auspices of the US Constitution).
06:29 PM on 07/08/2010
We do trust the courts. We are just sad that Obama chose to take the side of people from other countries over the side of American citizens. We wished for a President that would look out for our interests first. We should have known that Obama seeing himself as a citizen of the world first and an American second would make these sorts of decisions and have these kinds consequences. It is our bad for voting him in and we will have buyer's remorse until 2012. Anything done can be undone in time.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
07:30 PM on 07/08/2010
blah blah blah...we're sad....blah blah blah we don't trust the Attorney General.

You trust the courts...or you DON'T.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
04:02 PM on 07/08/2010
Another illegal just looking for work.

Three teens gathered on a school yard to converse with one another. They were approached by an illegal alien gang member who had nothing better to do with his time than murder these teens. He deserves the death penalty:

One of the victims, then-19-year-old Natasha Aeriel, survived the attack, in which members of the gang sexually molested her, shot her and cut her with with a machete. Now deaf in one ear, and suffering partial facial paralysis, Aerial testified at the trial, The New York Times reported. Aeriel’s younger brother, Terrance Aeriel, 18; her best friend, Iofemi Hightower, 20; and another friend, Dashon Harvey, 20, were all killed.

The jury, which was made up of four men and eight women, needed only three hours’ deliberation to reach their verdict.

"Godinez has lived on Midland Avenue and Manor Drive in Newark, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement records indicated he may have also been in the country illegally. Rodolfo Antonio Godinez Gomez entered the U.S. from Nicaragua on Oct. 24, 1992. He was ordered deported on May 5, 1993, but it isn’t clear if he ever left the country, according to Essex County Sheriff Armando Fontura. “It seems to me that he was illegal,” he said last night."

I guess he was waiting on amnesty.

http://www.hicktownpress.com/illegal-alien-rodolfo-godinez-wanted-by-nj-police-for-role-in-execution-style-slaying/
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BoyInBOYCOTT
04:51 PM on 07/08/2010
You quote a 2007 murder from New Jersey, from some rinky dink conservative BLOG...all to smear all Latin@s..
Think I couldn't llok back 3 years in crime ridden cities and find HUNDREDS of rapes and murders to SMEAR any race you choose.

Take your lies and propoganda back to white supremacist FAIR.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
05:24 PM on 07/08/2010
8 July 2010

Schoolyard Killer Sentenced to 245 Years in Prison

Updated: Thursday, 08 Jul 2010, 4:00 PM CDT
Published : Thursday, 08 Jul 2010, 4:00 PM CDT

(NewsCore) - A 27-year-old man convicted of murdering three college-bound students in a Newark, N.J., schoolyard was sentenced to a total of 245 years in prison Thursday, The Star-Ledger reported.

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/dpps/news/schoolyard-killer-sentenced-to-245-years-in-prison-dpgapx-20100708-mh_8547622
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
05:26 PM on 07/08/2010
"Terrance Aeriel, Dashon Harvey, Iofemi Hightower, and Natasha Aeriel were hanging out, listening to music in an elementary school yard in Newark, New Jersey on a Saturday night in August, 2007. Around 11:30 p.m., three of the four were murdered, forced to lean up against a wall, and shot execution style at close range in rapid succession. They were pronounced dead at the scene. Natasha Aeriel survived being shot in the head and multiple knife wounds. Jose Carranzo, a known criminal alien from Peru was arrested. A warrant was issued for Rodolfo Godinez, an illegal alien from Nicaragua, a principle player in the murders. Two fifteen year olds were arrested and may be tried as adults."

http://www.operationfireandice.com/
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Aaron Aarons
07:14 AM on 07/09/2010
The number of people in other countries who have been killed by people from the United Snakes surely outnumbers those in the U.S. who have been killed by people from outside the U.S. by at least a 1,000-to-1 ratio.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that this "spytheweb" character has participated in some of those killings.
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Mover
Father, Husband, Ret 1SG
07:27 PM on 07/09/2010
What, are you looking for some equalization?

Let me know when you hand over your kids, brother, sister, father, mother, cousins or neighbors, to make it even..

Turn off the cartoons and grow up.
03:27 PM on 07/08/2010
This law is going to be withstand the Federal challenge with the exception perhaps of AZ making it a misdemeanor the first time a person is caught. It is the only place the AZ law And Federal law differ. Federal law makes it a misdemeanor when a person is caught the second time.
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ObamAtomic
05:27 PM on 07/08/2010
The bill standing will diminished the Constitution.
05:45 PM on 07/08/2010
Your opinion. You are allowed to have your opinion, right or wrong. It is still a free country. The democrats have not yet re-introduced the "Fairness Doctrine"....
08:56 PM on 07/08/2010
Oh hey, I am back. "The bill standing will diminish the Constitution." Grammar is hard.
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ObamAtomic
03:01 PM on 07/08/2010
@frixx http://www.ocexcelsior.com/articles/ice-1170-syndication-arresta-pedido.html
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You use an old report dated April 21, 2009 8:35 AM trying to make a point defending racism, you are an obfuscate person stupor induce,OMG,you like to criticize others and you are
an I M B E C I L E .

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03:29 PM on 07/08/2010
Hispanic is not a race.
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spytheweb
Black Democrat
04:07 PM on 07/08/2010
The country crying racism the loudest is also the country who has more of their citizens naturalized as US citizens than any other country. They also have the most illegal aliens in the country, Mexico!!!

"In 2009, the five leading countries of birth of new US citizens were Mexico (111,630 or 15 percent of total), India (52,889 or 7.1 percent), Philippines (38, 934 or 5.2 percent), China (37,130 or 5 percent), and Vietnam (31,168 or 4.2 percent)."
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ObamAtomic
05:19 PM on 07/08/2010
HISPANICS VOTE,DO YOU READ ME?
04:12 PM on 07/08/2010
Do you think the person the article was about changed their cheating ways in 15 months?
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ObamAtomic
05:17 PM on 07/08/2010
United States Of America vs Arizona,Governor Brewer that is relevant to the immigration lawsuit?
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frixx
02:33 PM on 07/08/2010
Repost from a spanish language newspaper:

Check this out:

Illegal alien, uses 5 aliases, and tries to collect welfare for this kids after having been deported numerous times to mexico.

Is this one of the guys you want to give amnesty to?

Which identity will you give it to? Or does he get amnesty for all five IDs?

from: http://www.ocexcelsior.com/articles/ice-1170-syndication-arresta-pedido.html

"The request for public assistance for their children of an undocumented immigrant resulted in his arrest on Monday in Anaheim. Police said the man had entered the country illegally after being convicted of several drug-related charges, between the eighties and nineties.....

....Jose Cruz-Real (of Guerrero, Mexico), who uses at least five other names, was sentenced to 10 years in state prison by Orange County transportation or sale of a controlled substance in January 1998.

ICE agents say it is very likely that the drugs he was selling was heroin. Cross-Real was also convicted of two drug-related charges during the eighties.

Alonso says she only knows that her husband has gone to court twice to pay fines for driving without a license. When asked about the charges for controlled substances, she replied: "They are crazy."

- No the only people who are crazy are the ones who would allow people like this a path to US citizenship.
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ObamAtomic
02:53 PM on 07/08/2010
Are you a fool dru-ggie lardy?

What that copy/paste from a Spanish language newspaper go to do with the attempt to
power grab immigration from the federal government?

You racist xenophobes are the "scumbies" of the Earth ,defending white supremacists
partyKlaners and Russell Pearce.

The governor is pleading for money almost crying ,any help from your pathetic little soul?

By the way dimwit Spanish is a proper name you must use capital letter S.

Enjoy it tr0llz!
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ObamAtomic
03:08 PM on 07/08/2010
You use an old report dated April 21, 2009 8:35 AM trying to make a point defending racism, you are an obfuscate person stupor induce,OMG,you like to criticize others and you are
an I M B E C I L E .

HAHAHA!
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
01:34 PM on 07/08/2010
I would like to thank Eric Holder and his predecessors in the Dept of Justice for their lax enforcement of border security. Their work has resulted in NJ taxpayers paying for the life imprisonment of this illegal. You know a guy just here doing a job no Americans would do:
http://blog.nj.com/ledgerarchives/2007/08/key_suspec_arrested_in_newark.html
01:28 PM on 07/08/2010
If you Libs really want the pressure off illegal immigrants then oppose Obama's economic agenda. Most people aren't all that worried about immigration until the economy gets really bad. Happened in during the Great Depression: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Repatriation
Also happened in the 1954 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

The elite Liberals understand that Obama is killing the economy and they are turning on him:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-07/aspen-ideas-festival-obama-loses-support-of-nations-elite/?cid=hp:mostpopular1
holyghostie
Spiritus est qui vivificat
01:14 PM on 07/08/2010
The Federal Gov't failed Twice in keeping this guy out of our country. Their failure and the fact that NJ doesn't have Arizona's law on its books led to the rape of a child and ther murder of these college kids.

Good job DOJ.
http://blog.nj.com/ledgerarchives/2007/08/key_suspec_arrested_in_newark.html

The first murderer on trial just got life in prison today.So the Taxpayers of NJ have to pay 50K a year to give 3 hots and a cot to this cretin that should never have even been here.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
12:50 PM on 07/08/2010
FIRST they break out hearts
THEN they make us MAD
THEN WE VOTE
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/thenwevote.jpg
and in Spanish
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-8/1210139/thenwevoteSpanish.jpg

pinche Republicans.....see ya in November
01:02 PM on 07/08/2010
FIRST they intrigue you with their over the top intesity
THEN you realize they are just posting the same cr@p over and over.
THEN you see them as vacuous and ignore them.
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BoyInBOYCOTT
01:07 PM on 07/08/2010
"-Dems cut off unemployment benefits by refusing to pay for it. Only 40% of the stimulus money has been spent. Nancy Pelosi claims unemployment benefits stimulate the economy. Seems like paying for it from the stimulus is a no brainer.
-Boehner was criticizing the enormity of the bill (about 2000 pages) used to fix the problems. The issues that needed to be fixed is what he called ants not the melt down.
-It was a shakedown. We have a court system to determine liability it is not a function of the Presidency to tell a company what to pay and when. As a matter of fact it could complicate things when people do start sueing BP as they will claim the President assured them that they were on the the hook for only 20 Billion.
-Michael Steele was criticizing the intense ground war policy we have adopted vice the light foot print model we were pursuing in Afghanistan "

YOUR own statements DAMAGE your credibility...you make it too easy cupcake