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Unemployment Extension Standoff, Day 37: Mugged By Deficit Hawks

First Posted: 07/08/10 05:42 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:00 PM ET

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Congress has not reauthorized unemployment insurance for the long-term jobless because Senate Republicans (and Nebraska Democrat Ben Nelson) say the federal budget deficit can't bear another $33 billion.

Outside of Congress, fiscal conservatives actually aren't unanimous that holding unemployment benefits ransom is a smart way to reduce the deficit. Take it from Robert Bixby, president of the Concord Coalition, which exists solely to raise the alarm about big bad deficits:

"As a deficit hawk, I wouldn't worry about extending unemployment benefits,'' Bixby told Boston Globe columnist Scot Lehigh. "It is not going to add to the long-term structural deficit, and it does address a serious need. I just feel like unemployment benefits wandered onto the wrong street corner at the wrong time, and now they are getting mugged.''

The mugging started at the end of May, when the Senate adjourned for the Memorial Day recess before the House even had a chance to send over a domestic aid bill that included the benefits. Since then, to appease the hawks, Democratic Senate leaders delivered some gut-punches to reduce the bill's deficit impact but ultimately wound up one vote short before Congress adjourned for its July 4 recess.

By the time lawmakers return to Washington next week, more than 2.1 million people who've been out of work for longer than six months will have missed checks as they finish up their state benefits or current "tier" of federal benefits and find themselves ineligible for the next level up. Without the federally-funded extended benefits, most unemployed are eligible for just 26 weeks of state-funded unemployment benefits, whereas people laid off in 2008 could have received checks for 99 weeks.

"It's just amazing to me," said Christy Zvonar of the deficit debate. Zvonar, 27, said she lost her job as an accountant at an expense management company in Chicago last December. "I understand the whole issue of the deficit, but that doesn't seem to be a problem when they're making tax cuts for the wealthy and spending money on the war."

Zvonar said she received her last unemployment check, for just $342, on June 5. "I've been putting everything on credit cards -- phone, utilities, food," she said. "There are a lot of people in worse situations that have lost their houses. I'm thankful that I have as much as I do."

Senate Democrats rejected GOP counter-proposals to reauthorize the benefits and pay for them by cutting spending elsewhere. "Congress could easily extend unemployment benefits that are paid for by eliminating a tiny portion of the $350 billion Congress wastes every year," said John Hart, a spokesman for Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.). "If we don't change the culture in Washington and force Congress to make hard choices we will never address our long-term structural deficits."

The Democrats' refusal to offset the cost of extended unemployment benefits is based on the fact that the cost of extended benefits has never been offset during previous recessions. Rep. Jim McDermott (D-Wash.) told HuffPost last week that doing so would set a precedent that would fundamentally undermine unemployment insurance.

"Congress has never worried about offsetting emergency extended unemployment benefits, and with good reason," said Judy Conti, a lobbyist with the National Employment Law Project. "They are designed to be both an important social safety net, and economic stimulus, and they are so effective precisely because they pump money into the economy without taking it away from somewhere else."

Larry Mishel, president of the progressive Economic Policy Institute, agrees: "Paying unemployment compensation is one of the most stimulative things you can do and paying for it tremendously weakens that impact: you're injecting spending into the economy with one hand and taking it out with the other," wrote Mishel in an email to HuffPost. "The net cost on the long-term debt is minimal since the expenditures only last a few years and are not permanent. Plus, there's a return that such spending provides in higher revenues and lower outlays since UI expands the economy and creates more jobs."

David Walker, president of the Peter G. Peterson Foundation, joined Mishel earlier this year to argue in an op-ed that a "focus on jobs now is consistent with addressing our deficit problems ahead." (The Peterson Foundation funds all manner of deficit reduction efforts, including the Concord Coalition.)

Mark Zandi, chief economist with Moody's Economy.com and a former adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), has repeatedly said it's more important to help the unemployed and stimulate the economy now than to worry about deficits. Zandi has said he would support reauthorizing the benefits with a built-in plan to offset the cost three years from now -- an idea also supported by former Bush administration economist Keith Hennessey, who wrote on his blog that "Congress should extend unemployment insurance benefits as long as the unemployment rate is above 8 percent."

It's possible that cutting off extended benefits will actually worsen the deficit. The Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday that extended benefits keep older workers, who face longer durations of unemployment when they lose their jobs, from deserting the workforce in favor of Social Security disability payments.

"The biggest point in the deficit is the war....What we're wanting is just a trickle of what the deficit is," said Donna Price of Fort Worth, Texas, who was laid off from an interior design company in October. Price, 60, said it seems to her that Republicans are trying to crater the economy to make the president look bad and win elections. But she said she didn't understand why Democrats "won't let go of some of the stimulus money" to win GOP votes and reauthorize the benefits. Either way, if it doesn't happen, Price said her benefits will soon expire.

"I've got one more week left on that and that's it," she said. "My anniversary was this week. It was the first time in 35 years I did not buy anything for my husband. We didn't even go out to dinner."

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Congress has not reauthorized unemployment insurance for the long-term jobless because Senate Republicans (and Nebraska Democrat Ben Nelson) say the federal budget deficit can't bear another $33 billi...
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JacksonD 12:01 AM on 07/09/2010
To all those people who say "get a job", "stop being lazy", etc. I'd like to see you spend months on end looking for a job that isn't there and have to keep fielding calls from creditors, tell your kids that they can't have what they used to and then not even hear back with a "thank you for your interest". After awhile, when your self-esteem is pretty well shot and you've plowed through your 401K (doubly  Read More...
03:28 PM on 07/18/2010
Is anyone else is having this problem? I know others here in Ohio are experiencing the same problem. Those who have been unemployed for along time who are receiving or received unemployment for more than 6 months ,when going to some of the Temp Agencies are told that if you don't have any work expeirence for the past 6 months that they can not help you out. I also went on an interview and was told that because I had a GED they, the company, had to request my Diploma from the GED office themselves. It was a new policy they had implemented. The reason was that many people had been falsifying documents, so they have to request it directly from the education system in order to get my diploma. It didn't matter if I had my diploma or transcripts on me. This could take approximately 1 month or her to receive it. Is this something new, that these companies are doing now? Its bad enough, they want to do credit checks on you as well. This is totally wrong, how are people suppose to pay their bills if these companies don't want to hire people with bad credit. I DON'T UNDERSTAND?! So to you people who are paying your bills with your credit cards, better be careful cause its gonna come back and bite you in the rear. This is something that needs to be addressed. Congres.Extend the benefits so people can continue paying thier bills.
12:31 PM on 07/16/2010
Let's face it, as far as the Federal government is concerned, jobs for Main Street are no more important than jobs for Eskimoes. Our nation has been turning its back on significant segments of the population since its founding, and the newest career casualties will come from those who are seeking to make a life on Main Street instead of Wall Street or Washington. Up to 35 million people across the US will experience personal unemployment during 2010. Yet, neither the Democrats nor Republicans have any real intentions of creating jobs directly, because both parties know they have no means of doing so. The unemployment situation in Amercia will no doubt persist through the end of the decade and perhaps longer. Those unemployed who have exhausted their 99 weeks of unemployment checks should probably begin to evaluate emigration to other countries with their families in search of work. The irony is that as more and more unemployed leave the US, the unemployment burden will subside and prosperity for the remaining population with jobs will be accelerated. In the mean time, it's time for the unemployed to face the facts and reality that the nation cannot help them, but does nevertheless wish them the best...
03:27 PM on 07/12/2010
Our only hope is the President himself. I propose to everyone who is unemployed, go on twitter in the next 24 hours and send President Obama a tweet asking him for an executive order for unemployment extensions. Let's see how many tweets we can send to him in the next 24 hours! Even if you have tweeted him before, tweet his page again! A couple of hundred tweets probably won't make anyone notice, but a few thousand will!
Tweet now!
11:57 AM on 07/13/2010
I think this is a great Idea...Tweet today, tweet tomorrow, tweet everytime you put in a claim. Just make it a habit, if most of us remember to do this, it should make some sort of impact, I have been with out a check since April 2010 and I still claim every week, and i will keep claiming until i get a job...I paid for this damn Unemployment INSURANCE for YEARS!! So quit messing with us and just pay the damn money. We spend it on bills in the US, better then going to other countries!
03:11 PM on 07/12/2010
I don't believe they will pass an extension anytime soon. Not until it is too late for those who lost benefits in june, anyway. After waiting over a week for them to come back and vote, not some hot shot governor is holding the final vote hostage by refusing to put in a replacement for Byrd until possibly November! I smell a buyout, or yet another corrupt politician with his own agenda as he wants to replace Byrd himself. We don't need help in November, we need help now! By November, almost all of us who lost our benefits in the past month will be out on the streets. I have $22 in my pocket, and I work day labor but the 20-30 year olds are stronger and get picked before a 41 year old, believe me. It's minimum wage and grueling but it's money. Not enough, however, to keep us off the streets. By November, there will be "Tent cities" much as there were in the Great Depression. People who once had something begging for food. My grandparents and parents lived through that. They didn't trust the government or the banks, they were RIGHT! We shouldn't either. F.D.R., where are you? Your country needs a leader like you! We are at the mercy of politics, and snakes who don't care about the people.
"We the people, in order to form a more perfect union,"...We ARE the people! Shout and make your voice heard!
12:32 PM on 07/16/2010
Let's face it, as far as the Federal government is concerned, jobs for Main Street are no more important than jobs for Eskimoes. Our nation has been turning its back on significant segments of the population since its founding, and the newest career casualties will come from those who are seeking to make a life on Main Street instead of Wall Street or Washington. Up to 35 million people across the US will experience personal unemployment during 2010. Yet, neither the Democrats nor Republicans have any real intentions of creating jobs directly, because both parties know they have no means of doing so. The unemployment situation in Amercia will no doubt persist through the end of the decade and perhaps longer. Those unemployed who have exhausted their 99 weeks of unemployment checks should probably begin to evaluate emigration to other countries with their families in search of work. The irony is that as more and more unemployed leave the US, the unemployment burden will subside and prosperity for the remaining population with jobs will be accelerated. In the mean time, it's time for the unemployed to face the facts and reality that the nation cannot help them, but does nevertheless wish them the best...
12:57 AM on 07/12/2010
!!VOTE OUT THE REPUBLICANS IN NOVEMBER!!Please sign my Petition @ change.org
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12:09 PM on 07/19/2010
I just signed,lets light this thing up,and get these signatures in follow the link,by Regina Alexander
12:09 AM on 07/12/2010
Some of my students made a video about this very thing. PLEASE pass this link on to everyone you know. Maybe we can get it to Congress. Thanks so much!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24T1E_vgCMg
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trikkegirl
Fitness buff for 35 years. Former Fattie.
10:57 PM on 07/11/2010
I think I'm starting to crumble. I have busted my butt for a solid year looking for jobs and interviewing over 15 times so far, and the last 2 companies I saw over a week ago have not called me (which means there are no offers forthcoming), and I got yet another rejection letter in the mail from a company I don't even remember interviewing with.

I have started looking thru my jewelry box. I bought few gold chains when life was good back in the mid 1990's. I am going to take them over to the "Cash For Gold" place tomorrow. Anyone else gotten this low yet? I'm just now starting to feel like a may burst into tears just going to the grocery store. I don't know if I can hold on like this.
10:39 AM on 07/12/2010
Yeah me, I feel hopeless and helpless...just got put on Zoloft today for depression....thank goodness I have the VA. to turn to... Good luck to you I know how you feel....
10:52 AM on 07/12/2010
I have already sold all of my jewelry. I am about ready to lose my car. If I do I will have no way to go on interviews. I live in a city which has no public transportation. I've been without a check for over a month now and am scared to death. I have applied to so many jobs I can't even count them all. I've looked online, gone in person and I can't even get a job flipping burgers right now because of all of the kids out of HS and college. It's truly pathetic out here!!

This is the first time I have ever been on unemployment. There is really going to be some shaking up come election time. And all of those folks who think we're just lazy.......I would like to see them try and survive and find a job the way we have been. They should thank their lucky stars they haven't lost their jobs "yet" or have money in the bank. What savings we had is gone!
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trikkegirl
Fitness buff for 35 years. Former Fattie.
02:46 PM on 07/12/2010
My Dad died last August on a Thursday night. On Friday MORNING I was at a job interview. I defy anyone to tell me the unemployed are coasting on their benefits. Last August I was living on my severance pay, and still interviewing at least once a month, cause I am good at getting interviews. I cannot get hired cause of my age. That's the only thing that explains why I have had no offers for jobs I was qualified to perform.

I am sorry about your car. I had some 401 money and used a chunk of it to pay off my car. If I have to use the rest of it to live on, it will wipe out over 10 years of saving like it never happened, and cost me money in penalties. It's a horrible situation. Guess it's a good thing that gold prices are so high.
02:22 PM on 07/11/2010
It's really hard to imagine anything that destroys jobs more effectively than unemployment insurance (UI).

UI discourages employers from hiring Americans. For every dollar paid in salary, the employer must pay an insurance premium. This makes Americans expensive to hire, so that employers are increasingly outsourcing our jobs to other countries.

UI discourages saving, which is what debt-ridden Americans need to do now more than anything. The employee figures he's covered so there's no need to save for his next job loss.

Once the employee is let go, UI then gives him an incentive to remain unemployed.

Extended UI benefits cannot be covered by the paid UI premiums (since these extensions were never anticipated). So every extension increases our deficit, which is already far beyond repayment. If you are not scared by our deficit, you need to be bowing out of any discussion that involves our government spending ANY more money at any level on ANYTHING.

Finally, UI requires that we implement a bureaucracy in every state that produces no products or services that are of use to anyone and whose primary purpose is to destroy jobs and bankrupt employers.

If you are truly looking for work, one of the prime factors you can blame is unemployment insurance, which makes you far less attractive to a global employer than people overseas, and which makes life tougher for employers who DO want to hire you. Do you really want a job? Then vote to eliminate unemployment insurance altogether.
07:01 PM on 07/11/2010
Excuse me, Mr. Ziffer - Many of us lazy unemployed did save for a rainy day - or a day without a job. We have used that money to keep our homes and transportation to look for jobs. It is so easy to be on a high horse when you have never walked in our shoes!
missprissanna
the weight of the news nearly broke my back
07:32 PM on 07/11/2010
I can only assume your relatives are royalty, since you certainly don't have a clue what it's like in the real world.
10:52 AM on 07/11/2010
If they do pass an extension, we still need to remember in November…

“Remember in November” That’s a slogan I can get onboard with. If you can, if this passes, IF you can find a job (probably not)…but IF you are getting by and have an hour or two to give, let’s all rise up during the elections. Hand out flyers, talk to neighbors. I’m considering heading to some town hall meetings and I think I may just use that slogan I wrote! Maybe put that & a list of things the gov’t did for big business & did not do for the people, hand them out, put them into newspapers….not just vote out Republicans…vote them ALL out should be the message. I know there’s not many of us on this blog, but you’ve got to start somewhere. Hang in there everybody…we are Americans & we can stand up for ourselves!!! Like my mom ( & many others) say: Where there’s a will, there’s a way!!!!
04:56 AM on 07/11/2010
I need this extension. I'm at my wits end here. I just did my weekly filing in hopes something positive will happen this week. I don't know how I'm going to pay my rent in a few weeks if this doesn't go through. I have been out of work for just over 6 months and I cannot find a job to save my life, literally and figuratively. I'm a college educated hard working guy. I don't do drugs, I apply for countless jobs every day with rejections or no response at all. I have applied for anything from fast food, landscaping, car washing, retail, manufacturing... you name it I have applied for it. I actually went to a job interview this past week and wasn't hired due to me being "over qualified". I was told that I would most likely get a better offer else where and they didn't want to waste time on hiring/training me to wash cars... I went on another interview, at Kmart actually, and I wasn't hired for similar reasons. "I am sure something your qualified for will turn up soon"... what am I supposed to do!
06:20 PM on 07/10/2010
Wall Street allies of the Republican Party as well corporate, multinational oil interests, and financial sector allies of the Republicans are cheering the perfectly choreographed sequence of events that has led to one of the largest unemployed worker pools in recent U.S. history. Now, with a desperate pool of more than 10 million American workers--many highly skilled--private self interests have the pick of the litter and can hire good talent at cheap prices with no concerns about worker conditions, pesky union interference, or worker griping. Next stop: Verichip implants for the "fortunate" few that get a job.
03:26 PM on 07/10/2010
We need to keep putting pressure on Congress to extend unemployment benefits. Mine expired 2 weeks ago and I have no savings, all of it used to pay property taxes last year. Republicans are completely out of step with our country's needs...they simply want to hinder the Dems and Obama by being the "Party of No".

If you support an extension of unemployment benefits, go to the following link:

http://www.petition2congress.com/2/3355/extend-emergency-unemployment-compensation

It will allow you to enter your address and it selects your legislators...you are then able to send them a letter or email in support of extending unemployment benefits.

Keep this positivity going!
10:45 PM on 07/11/2010
Repub offered to pass UI using UNUSED bailout funds. Drms decided to go on recess.

Dems passed pay-go then dont want to follow it.....

Dems control it all they can pass it if they want. (just like healthcare)
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treadway123
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01:31 PM on 07/10/2010
Now u know why I left the Republican party in 2008, an I haven't looked back sense! Mrs. Palin drove me to the Demacrate party an every sense then I have been so glad not to be aviliated with the Republican party. It is so sad that this is the party I depended on for many years to get things done an reach accross the isle! Remember with Ted Kennedy an Oran Hactch came up with kid connection to help needy children who need medical care? Those were the days my freind! Sense then they have done every thing by political games/greed/to line their pockets, an stoped doing the peoples bussiness. It is so sad!
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missgramma2005
01:20 PM on 07/10/2010
I can remember a very long time ago the first time I called a business and was greeted by a computer. Remember thinking then that someone lost a job. Now the jobs have been lost exponentially to outsourcing and our elected representatives have been replaced with shameless greedy shysters who don't give a rat's patt00ty that folks they represent are desperate for help.

Now how to undo years/decades of American jobs being replaced with computers or outsourcing? Ain't the 'baggers or the Palins or the GOP who continues to stall so they can get power back to cause more harm to Americans....hell they can't even ManUp and admit their man GWB/Cheney/GOP ideals broke it...death and destruction to many...so who cares if Americans have no jobs and no unemployment benefits to feed their familys...no.... to the GOP that is the dastardly socialist ideal and by golly they are capitalists at heart and don't give a hoot. The old "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" won't work if someone has had their legs chopped off by a corporate owned economy that worships at the alter of the almighty dollar. Sad that America's middle class is rapidly disappearing while countries "over there", mainly China has a rapidly growing and booming middle class.

Demand that the Democrats grow some cojones and quit playing nice. Some will shake your hand whilest stabbing you in the back something naive Dem's need to realize.
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treadway123
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01:41 PM on 07/10/2010
Where all being taken for a ride by the Republicans! They think the worse they can make our economy the better it will be for them in Nov., an come 2012. They don't think they will be blamed for any of it! Maybe americans are just that dumb? Look at some of the crazy people like Angle an Rand Paul running neck to neck with people we know have looked out for our interest, an this crazy people want to stop S.S, Board of Ed, an Amend the Civil Right Bill an all this crazy crap---------Yet their numbers are high in the polling. Yep, Yep, Ya Betcha------We are getting dumbed down more every day in the United States!
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missgramma2005
02:38 PM on 07/10/2010
Amen!

Takes me awhile to answer back. Complicated life.
10:00 AM on 07/10/2010
And again....the 99ers are nothing but the parasites feeding off of road kill.
WE VOTE!!!! Millions of Americans are 99ers...........we WILL remember.
11:12 AM on 07/12/2010
AMEN to that!!