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Albuquerque Shooting: Emcore Corporation 'Chaos' Leaves 3 Dead, 4 Injured (UPDATED)

SUE MAJOR HOLMES   07/12/10 11:59 PM ET   AP

Albuquerque Shooting

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A gunman angry about a child custody dispute with his girlfriend shot her Monday after a confrontation outside the New Mexico manufacturing plant where she works, then forced his way inside and killed two employees before turning the gun on himself.

Police identified the shooter as Robert Reza, 37, who had addresses in Rio Rancho and Albuquerque.

Four others were wounded in a rampage police said was motivated by Reza's disgust over a domestic violence dispute involving the girlfriend, who remained in critical condition Monday night. Police Chief Ray Schultz said investigators recovered a single handgun but it appeared Reza fired 20 to 25 bullets, reloading once.

Three of the wounded were in stable condition Monday night at University of New Mexico Hospital, while the fourth was treated and released, hospital spokesman Billy Sparks said. He wouldn't disclose the discharged patient's name or gender.

Schultz said no names other than Reza's would be released before Tuesday.

Reza confronted the girlfriend outside the Albuquerque fiber optics and solar manufacturing plant, and his rampage continued inside, Schultz said. It was unknown if the others who were shot had been targeted by Reza, he said.

"He acted alone," Schultz said. "His primary target was his girlfriend at the facility. He knew her routine and confronted her outside the business."

The woman was hospitalized in critical condition with gunshot wounds. Schultz said she had told co-workers she planned to report domestic violence to authorities.

Schultz said the only criminal background discovered for Reza were drunken driving arrests in 2003 and 2000. The chief said there was at least one previous domestic violence call involving the gunman outside Albuquerque.

It wasn't known how Reza got past security at Emcore Corp., but police said he was a former Emcore employee. Reza went through the building firing shots at several employees and leaving behind a gruesome scene of blood and shell casings across the company headquarters.

Responding officers had to step past several victims – one dead and several wounded – as they raced into the building to stop the gunman. Mayhem unfolded as Reza opened fire, sending employees fleeing for cover as police locked down the entire neighborhood.

"This is the worst nightmare you can think of," Schultz said. "No one wants to have a situation like this occur in their community."

Schultz initially told reporters six people were dead, but authorities later revised the count to say only three were fatally wounded.

He said the gunman and his girlfriend had children who live in Rio Rancho and said they were taken into custody by "another agency."

Schultz called the Emcore campus a "very secure facility" and said it appeared the gunman forced his way into the building before entering several areas. Schultz said detectives and FBI agents were reviewing surveillance video.

"It's a large and complex shooting scene," he said.

He said more than 220 people were transported by bus from Emcore buildings to a community center, where detectives interviewed them. Employees also were offered grief counseling and treatment for asthma or diabetic conditions.

Emcore manufactures components that allow voice, video and data transmission over fiber-optic lines. They also make solar power systems for satellite and ground-based systems, and Schultz said the company deals with numerous federal contracts.

Based in Albuquerque, the company has about 700 full-time employees.

Of the 5,071 workplace fatalities nationwide in 2008, 517 were homicides, or about 10 percent of all workplace fatalities, according to U.S. Department of Labor Statistics.

The department reported the 2008 numbers represent an 18 percent drop in workplace homicides from 2007 and a 52 percent drop from 1994, when 1,080 workplace homicides occurred.

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Associated Press writers Bob Christie and Amanda Lee Myers in Phoenix contributed to this report.

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08:17 PM on 07/14/2010
Switzerland keeps only a small standing army, and relies much more heavily on its militia system for national defense. This means that most able-bodied civilian men of military age keep weapons at home in case of a national emergency. These weapons are fully automatic, military assault rifles, and by law they must be kept locked up.
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rikilii
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08:39 PM on 07/14/2010
Your point being....?
11:22 PM on 07/13/2010
> Of the 5,071 workplace fatalities nationwide in 2008,
> 517 were homicides, or about 10 percent of all workplace
> fatalities, according to U.S. Department of Labor Statistics.

But our NRA buddies will tell us we should have nothing to fear when someone shows up to work carrying a gun. It would be "irrational" they say, because that only works out to be two people a day during the normal work week.

NO... we should feel safer when someone shows up with a gun just in case someone else that works there shows up with a gun... hmm... wait, he might miss, maybe we should have at least two people show up in case one guy shows up with a gun.

I can see we need to sit down and draw up a schedule.
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rikilii
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12:22 AM on 07/14/2010
Please show me some examples of all the times that a person who was legally carrying a firearm at work as part of his daily routine actually "went off on" his coworkers.

Here are some stats for you all to chew on. http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cftb0233.pdf

The largest category of workplace homicides occurs in retail establishments, especially convenience stores and gas stations. Other large categories include law enforcement and bars/restaurants, and cab drivers.

Overall, based on the nature of the biggest categories, I would bet that the great majority of these cases involve professional criminals, such as those trying to rob stores or cab drivers, and of course, police officers killed in the line of duty.
12:46 AM on 07/14/2010
The most common homicide is the husband or boyfriend killing his wife or girlfriend. That happens over 1000 times a year; the wife or girlfriend kills the husband almost 500 times a year.

So the S/O is homicide is around 1,500.

DO let's stop pretending it is criminals robbing stores or cabs.

You can "bet" nothing here, the facts are there.
09:46 AM on 07/14/2010
Man is this site glitchey. Tried repeatedly to get back to your last comment to me on this category, but it was a total no go. Your comment was about "off the books" guns and the shooter. I made no assumption as to whether or not he had bought the gun "off the books"--I and many others believe that we and the families of the victims in this case, and every other case of illegal gun activity and use, deserve to know exactly how the weapon was acquired, legally or illegally and a nation wide system be set up to track this information for trends and tie ins to certain groups or individuals so that gun related carnage in this country can be drastically reduced. I have no beef with legitimate gun enthusiasts and I am one myself and was a Federally licensed gun dealer for quite some time.
As to the lawsuit idea, if anyone helped to supply that killer with a gun after knowing about his DUI's and domestic problems or simply sold it to him illegally then lawyers for the victims' families should be able to pick their financial bones clean and that would be a great deterrent to the next nit thanks that a gun should be sold like a loaf of bread or a stick of gum.
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09:12 AM on 07/14/2010
And interestingly, in a time when looser gun laws are going in to effect, the statistic of 517 was 18% lower than the 2007 number. Thats about 113 fewer homicides in the workplace than the previous years. You don't have to draw a correlation between the two, but they are indeed actual numbers. According to the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
10:29 AM on 07/14/2010
> You don't have to draw a correlation between the two,

Indeed, I shan't.

We do not have guns at my workplace and haven't for fifteen years. The homicide rate is flat: zero.

I think if no one carried firearms to work - no one - the homicides would drop 80 percent.
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08:40 PM on 07/13/2010
Do you see the advertisement on this page? Do you feel lucky? The most important five seconds of your life -- How opportunistic of the gun lobby and its marketing plan. What about Huffington Post accepting this ad?
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02:10 PM on 07/13/2010
Domestic violence cases become deadly gun violence cases more and more in the USA.
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
11:28 AM on 07/14/2010
Please substantiate your assertion. Explain how your assertion is factually valid given that rates both of homicide and of violent crime in the United States are significantly lower now than in the 1980s and 1990s, and explain why recorded rates of violent crime and of homicide have not increased recently.
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08:31 PM on 07/14/2010
Still waiting for an answer, I see...
11:51 AM on 07/13/2010
I wonder how many of the gun violence statistics were incidents involving one criminal shooting another criminal ? It would seem to me that this would be the majority of the cases involving gun violence. I don't know.
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11:57 AM on 07/13/2010
As excusable to some as those cases of gun-enabled mayhem might be, this latest incident, you know, the one we're actually discussing, isn't one of them.
12:09 PM on 07/13/2010
Why are you condescending ? To my mind what I am reading on this thread is a debate about guns. It is as well a national mental health issue among other things. I see our 21th Century existence to be complicated with issue interwoven one thing to another. I believe the citizens of this Republic need to come together and work out our differences.
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12:49 PM on 07/13/2010
That's not what you've repeatedly claimed throughout this thread. Just to remind you: you have repeatedly claimed that innocent people have been mass murdered because their guns were taken away (we'll leave aside the obvious critique that having a gun clearly did not prevent these people from having that gun taken away...). Do you even know what you are arguing for or against?
01:09 PM on 07/13/2010
Their guns had been confiscated prior to being arrested and put to death. As you stated Ganden T the confiscation took place at gun point. A resistance group could have been formed and directed. “I would rather die standing than live on my knees!” this is how Zapata replied when asked to disarm the peasant militias of Mexico for agrarian reform in the early 1900's. You continue to say "At the point of a gun" yes! at the point of a gun, one with a gun, and the other without a gun.
11:42 AM on 07/13/2010
Being a small business owner maintaining expensive tools ( $50,000 replacement cost) in a 16x12 shed out back and a couple of work trucks ( with tools inside them $5000 replacement cost for the tools alone.) Is it o.k with y'all that I keep 12ga pump action shot gun loaded at night ? If your reply is get insurance Joe, please do not state the obvious. As well have a look at this link to Lance Thomas on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDgHDN_ANi4 Thanks, Joe.
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11:46 AM on 07/13/2010
Seems ok by me, as long as there aren't kids around. Did somebody suggest it wasn't?
12:00 PM on 07/13/2010
I have a family.
12:12 PM on 07/13/2010
So you are saying that if I have children it is not okay, therefore you are suggesting that it is not Okay.
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10:41 AM on 07/13/2010
I am extremely interested to know whether Emcore may have a policy against guns on their premises or in their workplace. Can anyone answer that question definitively?
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11:43 AM on 07/13/2010
I think that, after asking this same question half a dozen times, it may be time for you to move on and find out for yourself.
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11:57 AM on 07/13/2010
I've tried without success but I would strongly suspect that Emcore is a "gun-free" zone which is simply a way of setting their employees up for a massacre.

These guys who do these things are looking for total control, even if they know they are going to die, they want to die on their own terms and by their own hand so they will naturally gravitate to a gun-free zone feeling fairly secure in the knowledge that they will have the only firearm on the premises for long enough to kill a bunch of people.

If Emcore had NOT been a gun-free zone, chances are good this horrible thing would never have occurred.
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01:26 PM on 07/13/2010
If there were more guns on the premises, more bullets would have been flying. More guns, more bullets, more deaths. More guns, more violence.

If it was a gun-free workplace, that's exactly what saved the lives of others.
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rikilii
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05:20 PM on 07/13/2010
It didn't stop this guy from going in there with his gun, did it?
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
11:31 AM on 07/14/2010
I am certain that you can justify your prediction by citing instances of such incidents in locations where the carrying of concealed deadly weapons was not prohibited. Please do so.
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08:06 AM on 07/13/2010
Violence is violence, regardless of the tool you use. Lets look at some numbers, some from and article yesterday.

Japan has the lowest incidence of gun violence in the world but it has a VERY high suicide rate. In fact, if you added the US suicide rate (14.4 per 100K) and the homicide rate (5.7 per 100K) it still does not add up to the suicide rate in Japan (24.4 per 100K). And they seem to manage to get this done without any guns. Maybe guns really AREN'T the problem.

Additionally, even though the UK has gun control, Derrick Bird shot twelve (12) other people on 2 June in Cambridge, England.
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10:21 AM on 07/13/2010
Guns aren't the problem in Japan or England, but they sure are here. There is a glut of them, and we treat them as our default problem-solvers.
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rikilii
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08:33 AM on 07/14/2010
Europe has just about as many mass shootings as we do.
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10:34 AM on 07/13/2010
Comparing all out gun-violence with suicide is really stretching it. It is common for people in Japan to commit suicide when they bring dishonour to their family. For instance: pregnancy, forgetting an important wedding anniversary, etc. When is the last time you heard of men in America killing themselves over forgetting their wedding anniversary?

You take an intelligent chimp and teach him how to aim and fire a gun at other chimps and doubtless, you will simply dismiss this as a dangerous and homicidal chimp and obviously the gun had nothing to do with it. "Guns don't kill chimps ... chimps kill chimps." Right ?

The infamous Dunblane, Scotland 1996 massacre was when a distraught fired children's gym teacher ... took his anger out on the children by killing 15 5-year-olds with a "hunting" rifle he kept at home. Scotland's answer was to pass laws of anyone storing their "hunting" guns and rifles at home ... millions voluntarily gave up those guns as an honour to those children. Never again.

After this latest incident here in Cambridge there is strong movement to happily pass this same type of Scottish Dunblane type of law so that even though not perfect at least there is a strong deterrent from this happening again.

Violence is violence but if you dismiss it with arming yourselves to the teeth ... that is not a rational answer. "Those that live by the sword - die by the sword."
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11:03 AM on 07/13/2010
A significant portion of the gun deaths in the US are suicides. And there were a number of children killed in China a couple weeks ago by a guy with a knife. Your totally missing the point.

We are talking about people with an intent to harm themselves or others. Obviously in Japan, the lack of handguns does not stop them from committing suicide because they have the intent to kill themselves. Obviously in China the lack of handguns did not him stop him from going into the school and killing children because he had the intent to kill them.

Also, do some fact checking before posting. The guy in Dunblane walked into the school with four handguns on his person, not a hunting rifle. He shot from close range. Close enough he could have used a knife. You can take the gun out of his hand, you cannot take the intent out of his heart/mind. Given that, they will find a tool to use.

In fact, in this particular story, there might have been more casualties. Instead of him just shooting rounds through the temporary classroom (and missing EVERYONE in it), he might have entered the trailer and done more damage.

Rest in peace to those killed at Dunblane. My sympathies to those that still have to live with it.
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02:47 AM on 07/13/2010
Our families condolences to all involved...what a tragedy.
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11:42 PM on 07/12/2010
"...criminal background discovered for Reza were drunken driving arrests in 2003 and 2000. The chief said there was at least one previous domestic violence call involving the gunman outside Albuquerque"

Record of alcohol abuse and previous domestic violence: how did he get that gun? Did he break the law to get it? Where's that part of the story? Where'd the gun come from?
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12:13 AM on 07/13/2010
Perhaps he just took some cash to a gun show.
12:30 AM on 07/13/2010
there was no record of alcohol abuse, they were dui's. and i didn't see it stated any conviction of domestic violence, only what i can see as officers responding to a call. so your moral outrage is all in your dreams. felonies. felonies were what you were looking for but failed to find.
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12:42 AM on 07/13/2010
Yeah. Imagine denying somebody their 2nd Amendment rights just because they roughed up their girlfriend a bit! She was probably asking for it anyway. And only TWO DUIs?! He was just thirsty! Give the guy a break!
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03:02 PM on 07/13/2010
kgdavid -- So, you have no outrage, moral or otherwise, about the history and the end result for this family and community?
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10:43 PM on 07/12/2010
This is a very rare and unusual occurrence here in New Mexico, not that we don't have shootings, we most certainly do but this situation where somebody walks into a place of business or a place were there are a lot of people and just starts shooting is almost unheard of here, it nearly always happens where there are more strict anti-gun laws or where guns are not permitted such as a college campus. Here in NM, the chances are too great that the shooter will encounter an armed citizen. Unfortunately, it appears there were no other armed Emcore employees.
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11:14 PM on 07/12/2010
Had there been, everything would have been hunky-dory.
11:54 PM on 07/12/2010
Hunky-dory, indeed.
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08:32 AM on 07/13/2010
Lives might have been saved.
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08:45 AM on 07/13/2010
You mean "fortunately." I live in ABQ as well. I'd like to know where you got any of the information your spouting, because it sounds like you're making it up.
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10:30 AM on 07/13/2010
You're the one who is questioning it, can you point to another situation here such as this in living memory, I can't. The article states that it is unknown how the shooter got past "security" which makes me wonder whether Emcore may have had a policy against guns on their premises which would explain a lot.
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10:37 AM on 07/13/2010
I would be VERY interested to know whether Emcore has a policy that forbids guns in their work place. Does anyone reading this know?
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10:24 PM on 07/12/2010
Schultz said the woman had told co-workers she planned to report domestic violence to authorities.
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"This is the worst nightmare you can think of," Schultz said. "No one wants to have a situation like this occur in their community."
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You know what? I hope this makes women think about how much harm can be done if they DON'T report domestic violence. There are warning signs that some men can go off the rails this badly and any woman who fears that in their man should get out and call the cops. If you don't, this could happen to you. If you survive his murder-suicide plot, you'll have to live with the fact that could've stopped him from killing your co-workers. And himself.
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09:34 PM on 07/12/2010
Damn that Mel Gibson!
01:18 AM on 07/13/2010
Oh snap! Funniest response I've heard all day. And I live here, so it was a much needed laugh. Good show!
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09:33 PM on 07/12/2010
As I think Michael Moore pointed out, if this many executives were killed in workplace violence every year, there would be congressional action and investigations. As long as it is just worker bees, whatever.
09:32 PM on 07/12/2010
There is no justification for violence and my heart goes out to the families of the victims. Unfortunately, I think workplace violence will increase as unemployment grows higher and more companies opt for the H1B/L1 visa insourcing/lay-off Americans model.

HP didn't tell the whole story here. The murderer was an unemployed IT worker -- most likely laid off after training a replacement from India on an H1B visa to do his former job. The murdered were working for an H1B-friendly company, Emcore. Again, no justification for this, but somebody better start paying attention to the social implications of outsourcing/insourcing and laying off Americans for cheap labor.
05:53 AM on 07/13/2010
Amen to that!