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Arizona Immigration Law Sees New Wave Of Legal Challenges

PAUL DAVENPORT   07/21/10 08:24 PM ET   AP

Immigration Arizona Lawsuits

PHOENIX — A federal judge is holding hearings on a parade of legal challenges to Arizona's immigration enforcement law, but resolving the seven cases filed so far could keep the court busy for years.

Two of the cases were set to go before U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton on Thursday.

Lawyers in separate cases filed by the federal government and by the American Civil Liberties Union and other advocacy groups are seeking an order to keep the law from taking effect.

Meanwhile, attorneys for Gov. Jan Brewer want Bolton to dismiss the lawsuit filed by the advocacy groups.

Bolton held a similar hearing on July 15 involving another lawsuit. She hasn't indicated whether she'll rule on any of the cases before July 29, when the law is scheduled to take effect at 12:01 a.m. MST.

The uncertainty has made the Sandra Day O'Connor U.S. Courthouse the focal point for the bubbling debate over the law, even as law enforcement agencies prepare to implement it and opponents gear up for protests.

The law requires officers, while enforcing other laws, to check a person's immigration status if there's a reasonable suspicion the person is in this country illegally.

The law does not define reasonable suspicion, but police training materials say triggers can include speaking poor English, traveling in a crowded vehicle and hanging out in an area where illegal immigrants typically congregate.

The law also bans people from blocking traffic when they seek or offer day-labor services on streets and prohibits illegal immigrants from soliciting work in public places.

All but one of the seven cases challenging the law have been assigned or reassigned to Bolton. The other remains in the hands of a judge who was randomly given the case but likely will go to Bolton.

Lawsuits filed by the U.S. Department of Justice, advocacy groups and others generally argue the law is unconstitutional because immigration is a federal responsibility. Some claim the law will result in racial profiling.

Gov. Brewer's lawyers contest those claims.

Unless Bolton dismisses all the cases outright, getting a final ruling on the constitutionality of the law could easily take two years or more.

That's how long it took another judge in the same court to decide challenges to Arizona laws on voter registration and campaign finance. Appeals could take much longer.

In the meantime, Bolton is left to ride herd over proceedings in seven overlapping but distinct cases involving dozens of lawyers and hundreds of legal briefs and other filings totaling thousands of pages.

Stephen Montoya, the chief lawyer in a lawsuit filed by a Phoenix police officer and an Hispanic nonprofit group, sought a preliminary injunction against the law at the July 15 hearing. The next day, Montoya requested the lawsuit be consolidated with the case filed by the Department of Justice.

The cases are virtually identical in claiming the state statute is trumped by federal law and because both seek to block enforcement, Montoya said.

"Honestly, if the federal government had filed first, I can't imagine that we would have even filed," Montoya said. "We have a lot of respect for the federal government. We have a lot of respect for their lawsuit. Certainly they have a lot more resources than we do."

If the cases are consolidated, "after that, we will take a back seat to the federal government," he said.

A lawyer for a Tucson police officer who filed a different challenge requested on Wednesday that it be merged with the federal suit.

One possible scenario would be the consolidation of all seven legal challenges.

"Then it's like one giant lawsuit," Arizona State University law professor Robert Bartels said. "When cases are consolidated, it's as if all of the plaintiffs sued together with separate counsel. Those lawyers might eventually come to an agreement about who's going to take the lead."

But consolidation isn't likely for one major challenge, at least for now.

Lawyer Nina Perales, who represents the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, said a lawsuit filed by that group and the ACLU, goes further than the federal case by claiming racial profiling.

"It's coming from a different and maybe complementary perspective," Perales said. "We're really coming from the perspective of individual people."

Tim Hogan, executive director for the liberal-oriented Arizona Center for the Law in the Public Interest, said it can be tricky if lawyers for different clients in one consolidated case have different ideas on strategy.

Then it comes down to whether the attorneys can hash out a common approach.

"You can't control what other people are going to do. You just can't," he said.

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HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
mrJJ
04:42 PM on 07/23/2010
KPHO reports: Arizona Republicans continue to distort the facts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMF8uRwI1So
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
04:47 PM on 07/25/2010
Illegal immigration apprehensions have dropped from 2005 but AZ has gone from 11% of the national total in 2005 to 45% in 2008 it an estimated 2500 per day (1 million per year) are still coming through AZ with about 900 being apprehended in AZ each day.

AZ has about 460,000 resident illegal aliens which at around 7% is double the national average (1 in 15) with 90% Mexican nationals.

Just a thought to put in context how big this is, at $3000 per person

http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/18/the-rise-in-mexican-smugglers-fees/


the coyote industry in AZ amounts to $3.7 bn p.a. = 10% of AZ's GDP. Nationally that would be an $8.6 Bn industry or put another way is 80% the size of Intel or 1/7 the size of Microsoft.

That my friend is what we are up against - I believe we haven't even seen the start of the backlash from clamping down on the problem.
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Rick in Arizona
Obama got Osama
11:42 AM on 07/26/2010
It's only gone up in Maricopa county (Phoenix), where Joe Arpaio is turning it into a police-state.
04:03 PM on 07/23/2010
Here is an update that hasn't made here yet. Looking good for the AZ law.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/07/23/2010-07-23_arizona_immigration_law_wont_be_completely_blocked_federal_judges_indicates_duri.html
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lqw
Justmyopinion
10:13 AM on 07/22/2010
"We are a nation of laws" Barack Obama
Why do the laws exclude illegals ?
05:23 PM on 07/22/2010
Fair wages, health benefits, humane working conditions, basic rights, voting, schools, etc.
also exclude illegals...
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Vlad Tepes
03:37 AM on 07/23/2010
They're countries should address that
10:03 AM on 07/22/2010
What a waste of time. The law is going into effect 7 days whether any of you like it or not. These legal challenges won't stand a Supreme Court test.
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lqw
Justmyopinion
10:12 AM on 07/22/2010
And a waste of taxpayers dollars. Illegals are breaking the law.
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crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
11:57 AM on 07/22/2010
The law itself is a waste of taxpayer dollars and nothing more than politics....avoiding discussion of a bankrupt state by passing a law that will cost immensely more money than it is worth, instilling hatred and fear, dividing communities, violating the constitution and for what? It certainly can't solve the immigration problem. It is like a bandaid on a finger when you have a severed leg. Do you SERIOUSLY think it will stop immigrants? You are naive. It is a BAD and EXPENSIVE law that solves nothing.
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CodyGirl
Truth is worth pursuing.
10:55 AM on 07/22/2010
Not every case gets to the Supreme Court. The SC is not obligated to take every case where there is an appeal. If the ruling goes against the state of AZ (i.e., they lose) in federal district court in Phoenix, they may not decide to appeal. Then that's where the case stays & that's the end of it. Appealing the case would be extremely expensive & would prolong the controversy & the boycotts of AZ, increasing the damage already done by this law. The greater likelihood is that the law is that there will be an injunction this week or next & the law will never go into effect. It will suffer much the same fate as Proposition 187 in California.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
05:09 PM on 07/22/2010
I think az would be happy to go straight to THIS supreme court. Boycott AZ is what I say
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voyager48
Illegitimi Non Carborundum
06:42 PM on 07/22/2010
....The second of two hearings Thursday concluded without U.S. Judge Susan Bolton issuing a ruling.

Bolton repeatedly questioned Justice Department lawyer Edwin Kneedler to explain how specific provisions intruded on federal authority. "Why can't Arizona be as inhospitable as they wish to people who have entered the United States illegally?" she said.

During the morning hearing, Bolton said she's required to consider blocking only parts of the law, not the entire statute as some plaintiffs had requested...."statesman.com"
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RonGallion
I am John Galt
09:42 AM on 07/22/2010
This lawsuit is nothing more than Obama trying to promote his policy of non enforcement
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
11:58 AM on 07/22/2010
hahahahahahhahahahahah
And the law? The law is nothing more than a waste of time, effort and money. It will do nothing to solve the problem. It will further bankrupt an already bankrupt state merely for the purpose of enflaming voters in her base. No other reason. At all.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
05:11 PM on 07/22/2010
Kinda reminds me of w's nonenforcement. And ronnie's amnesty, don't it. Arrest employers of illegals and the problem will go away.
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tsktsktsk
09:37 AM on 07/22/2010
If it weren't for the good and innocent Arizonans I know would suffer if it came to pass, I'd say good and I hope they go bankrupt. It would be poetic justice to see their own hatred and fearmongering destroy them.
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lqw
Justmyopinion
09:54 AM on 07/22/2010
Talk about h8te !!
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:05 PM on 07/22/2010
..thats not "hate" ...it is "clarity".
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:15 PM on 07/22/2010
http://www.parrazforchange.com/

Some of us are still good fighting the li.es and ha.tred.
And we are already bankrupt. this law is nothing more than a political game and distraction from that fact to enflame their voter base.
03:57 AM on 07/22/2010
More suits - yawn. There are also nine state governments, including mine (FL) which have endorsed the AZ law.

Eventually this will go to the Supreme Court. I seldom make predictons, but here is one. The law will be upheld by the Supreme Court on a 5-4 vote.
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lqw
Justmyopinion
10:00 AM on 07/22/2010
Mexico, Bolivia, Colombia, El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Paraguay and Peru . Filed a brief against the AZ law. These countries get millions of dollars from the US every year.
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Overshadow
intellectual honesty, one issue at a time
02:56 PM on 07/22/2010
Ironic, considering a few of their immigration policies...
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:06 PM on 07/22/2010
wanna wager? It is clearly unconstitutional and a political game.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
05:14 PM on 07/22/2010
Sadly they may be correct with THIS supreme court. Remember they think corporations are people too. 5-4 vote in Jan 2010
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frixx
04:51 PM on 07/25/2010
What is clearly unconstitutional about it?
Please cite a definitive case or two.

Your opinion about its constitutionality is inconsequential. And probably wrong.

Educate yourself.
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Vlad Tepes
03:44 AM on 07/22/2010
Our country has become infested with 12-20 million dishonest foreigners whom we call illegal aliens. This is what we need to focus on. How do we locate and deport them should be our singular aim and obsession.
09:54 AM on 07/22/2010
"singular aim and obsession."
yeah, because with two wars, millions of unemployed, a huge deficit, an economy in the tank.....we should forget about all that and obsess only on illegal aliens.
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crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:09 PM on 07/22/2010
Infested?
Dishonest?
You are despicable. And I already caught you lying. What shall we call you?

I live in AZ. I have traveled to central and South America. they are people. No different than you or I. Same or smaller percentage, perhaps, criminal element. Perhaps the nicest, family-oriented, kindest people I have ever me. Crawl back into your hole and change the channel. You should seriously get out more and travel but I'd fear you would infect others with your lies and hatred.
IMOPINIONH8D
because I want it empty...
05:22 PM on 07/22/2010
fannedandfaved hate to see whats happening in az, hopefully things will work out for the good out there. Its probably a good thing the teabagger doesn't get to travel much they'd only make us look ignorant. Teabaggers second language is "real American" louder.
02:05 AM on 07/22/2010
The fear over illegal immigration is misplaced. The changing character of American society is due to a much greater degree to LEGAL immigration. The facts are stunning.

Since 1960 , when the US population was around 180 Million, there were around 90 million LEGAL immigrants that entered the US by the 2000 Census. The numbers aren't in, but it is estimated that between the last census and the 2010 census, another 23-25 Million LEGAL entered. That's 115 Million LEGAL immigrants in 50 years and is the greatest wave of immigration the country has experienced. During that same period there have been between 20-25 Million illegal immigrants. It's one out of five, at best.

So when you see and hear other languages, and people not adapting to American society, most of it is coming from LEGAL immigrants, not illegal ones.

I used to think that the answer to illegal immigration was more legal immigration. I'm reconsidering it.
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Ann Shahan
01:15 AM on 07/22/2010
It's my hope that this law isn't able to be enacted on its July 29th effective date due being stayed by these lawsuits. If it lies dormant until after the November elections, when asked about it Republicans will say, "Immigration, what's that?" They had control of the Congress from 1994-2006 and did nothing about it. That says it all, doesn't it? This is merely a campaign tactic designed to arouse the anger and hatred of their base and get votes. They used gay marriage and @bortion the same way in the past and it worked. This time, they miscalculated and it's going to cost them dearly this November.

An Arizona Democrat working to defeat this law, Jan Brewer and John McCain.
Join me in November and vote Democrat if you care about yourself, your family and our country.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:11 PM on 07/22/2010
http://www.parrazforchange.com/
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hmp49
I....have a mole?
01:14 AM on 07/22/2010
France's laws on immigration make the proposed Arizona law look like a walk in the park.

But why should that be a surprise? Most other countries make no bones about controlling illegal immigration.

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http://www.aolnews.com/article/is-arizonas-new-law-basically-french/19458596

In 1993, the Socialist government of President Francois Mitterrand implemented a law authorizing police to carry out random ID checks, a policy intended to aid the identification and removal of illegal immigrants from the country.

France requires citizens to carry identification at all times; foreigners must carry documents that prove they're in the country legally.

Unlike in the U.S. -- where national identity cards are viewed by many as unconstitutional -- French citizens have long been obliged to carry ID cards wherever they go. Foreigners must also carry documents proving they have a right to be in the country. But before the 1993 law, police could only request those papers if they suspected a person had committed, or was about to commit, a crime. That suspicion requirement was removed in '93, and officers were allowed to stop whomever they wanted, whenever they wanted.
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HowietheScreamer
Yes yes, I know my Micro bio is still empty
01:48 AM on 07/22/2010
If you like France so much, go live there. France also bans free speech when the mood suits them.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ObamAtomic
01:56 AM on 07/22/2010
Good you for you,if you are so love in love with France's immigration laws move on!
United States Of America isn't France!
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HUFFPOST PUNDIT
hmp49
I....have a mole?
03:02 AM on 07/22/2010
Repeating the point - most countries DO control illegal immigration.
12:57 AM on 07/22/2010
80% of Americans speak poor English. Does this mean they're all suspected of being illegals?

I don't see how this can truly be enforced without using racial profiling. You see a bunch of young white people in a car, you think they're going to a concert or something; you see a bunch of young hispanic people in a car, you think they're illegals.
09:57 AM on 07/22/2010
Exactly. I also don't see how it can possibly be enforced without racial profiling. I have yet to hear anyone define precisely what "reasonable suspicion" is without use of skin color, accent, etc.
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Overshadow
intellectual honesty, one issue at a time
02:59 PM on 07/22/2010
When you get pulled over and can't produce a valid license, and when cops try to look up your name/address and there is no matching information... THAT is reasonable suspicion.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
ZeraLee
A Citizen's View from Main Street
12:07 AM on 07/22/2010
I found six problems with the law that have not yet been raised.

This is certainly a job for the courts.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:41 AM on 07/22/2010
Only 6? heh
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spytheweb
11:28 PM on 07/21/2010
Come Jan watch all the states who roll out their own AZ law. Even if states don't copycat it look for new laws that will cut social benefits to illegal aliens.
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crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
12:03 AM on 07/22/2010
and watch them all tumble down...a huge waste of money and effort
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frixx
04:56 PM on 07/25/2010
No, the majority in the US want an end to this illegal invasion.

The tide has already turned.
IncredulousInNorthDakota
Never Surprised by Stupidity
11:22 PM on 07/21/2010
If the law can be ignored, it's worthless.
The intent is good (get alien criminals out of our country) but there is a potential for abuse.
Still, that's no reason to rescind it, only to watch for and resolve abuse.
Most immigrants just want to make the move out of poverty legally.
Most of We the People don't have much of a problem with that.
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HUFFPOST SUPER USER
crosshatchaz
The meaning of life is to give life meaning.
11:26 PM on 07/21/2010
No reason to rescind? I can think of a dozen off the top of my head. 1st and foremost: it does absolutely nothng to solve the immigration problem
11:48 PM on 07/21/2010
What does solve the immigration problem?
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hmp49
I....have a mole?
03:05 AM on 07/22/2010
Wrong.

Illegal immigrants are leaving Arizona ahead of the effective date of the law.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/29/national/main6442729.shtml