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Illegal Immigration Fingerprint Program, Secure Communities, Has Advocates Up In Arms

Immigration Fingerprints Secure Communities

IVAN MORENO   07/26/10 09:29 PM ET   AP

DENVER — The federal government is rapidly expanding a program to identify illegal immigrants using fingerprints from arrests, drawing opposition from local authorities and advocates who argue the initiative amounts to an excessive dragnet.

The program has gotten less attention than Arizona's new immigration law, but it may end up having a bigger impact because of its potential to round up and deport so many immigrants nationwide.

The San Francisco sheriff wanted nothing to do with the program, and the City Council in Washington, D.C., blocked use of the fingerprint plan in the nation's capital. Colorado is the latest to debate the program, called Secure Communities, and immigrant groups have begun to speak up, telling the governor in a letter last week that the initiative will make crime victims reluctant to cooperate with police "due to fear of being drawn into the immigration regime."

Under the program, the fingerprints of everyone who is booked into jail for any crime are run against FBI criminal history records and Department of Homeland Security immigration records to determine who is in the country illegally and whether they've been arrested previously. Most jurisdictions are not included in the program, but Immigration and Customs Enforcement has been expanding the initiative.

Since 2007, 467 jurisdictions in 26 states have joined. ICE has said it plans to have it in every jail in the country by 2013. Secure Communities is currently being phased into the places where the government sees as having the greatest need for it based on population estimates of illegal immigrants and crime statistics.

Since everyone arrested would be screened, the program could easily deport more people than Arizona's new law, said Sunita Patel, an attorney who filed a lawsuit in New York against the federal government on behalf of a group worried about the program. Patel said that because illegal immigrants could be referred to ICE at the point of arrest, even before a conviction, the program can create an incentive for profiling and create a pipeline to deport more people.

"It has the potential to revolutionize immigration enforcement," said Patel.

Patel filed the lawsuit on behalf of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which is concerned the program could soon come to New York. The lawsuit seeks, among other things, statistical information about who has been deported as a result of the program and what they were arrested for.

Supporters of the program argue it is helping identify dangerous criminals that would otherwise go undetected. Since Oct. 27, 2008 through the end of May, almost 2.6 million people have been screened with Secure Communities. Of those, almost 35,000 were identified as illegal immigrants previously arrested or convicted for the most serious crimes, including murder and rape, ICE said Thursday. More than 205,000 who were identified as illegal immigrants had arrest records for less serious crimes.

In Ohio, Butler County Sheriff Rick Jones praised the program, which was implemented in his jurisdiction earlier this month.

"It's really a heaven-sent for us," Jones said. He said the program helps solve the problem police often have of not knowing whether someone they arrested has a criminal history and is in the country illegally.

"I don't want them in my community," Jones said. "I've got enough homegrown criminals here."

Carl Rusnok, an ICE spokesman, said Secure Communities is a way for law enforcement to identify illegal immigrants after their arrest at no additional cost to local jurisdictions. Jones agreed.

"We arrest these people anyway," he said. "All it does is help us deport people who shouldn't be here."

Rusnok said ICE created the program after Congress directed the agency to improve the way it identifies and deports illegal immigrants with criminal backgrounds. ICE has gotten $550 million for the program since 2008, Rusnok said.

Rusnok said the only place he knows of that has requested not to be a part of Secure Communities is San Francisco, which began the program June 8. Eileen Hirst, the chief of staff for San Francisco Sheriff Michael Hennessey, said it happened "without our input or approval."

Hirst said the sheriff thought Secure Communities cast too wide a net and worried that it would sweep up U.S. citizens and minor offenders, such as people who commit traffic infractions but miss their court hearings. Hirst also said the program goes against San Francisco's sanctuary city policy that calls for authorities to only report foreign-born suspects booked for felonies.

"Now, we're reporting every single individual who comes into our custody and gets fingerprinted," Hirst said.

California Attorney General Jerry Brown denied Hennessey's request to opt out. Brown said that prior to Secure Communities, illegal immigrants with criminal histories were often released before their status was discovered.

This month, Washington, D.C., police decided not to pursue the program because the City Council introduced a bill that would prohibit authorities from sharing arrest data with ICE out of concern for immigrants' civil rights. Matthew Bromeland, special assistant to the police chief, said police wanted the program and were talking with ICE about how address concerns from immigrant advocates before the bill forced them to halt negotiations.

Colorado officials became interested in the program after an illegal immigrant from Guatemala with a long criminal record was accused of causing a car crash at a suburban Denver ice-cream shop, killing two women in a truck and a 3-year-old inside the store. Authorities say the illegal immigrant, Francis M. Hernandez, stayed off ICE's radar because he conned police with 12 aliases and two different dates of birth.

A task-force assembled after the crash recommended Secure Communities as a solution.

Evan Dreyer, a spokesman for Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter, said Ritter recognizes that other states have had issues with the program and he wants to take time to consider the concerns raised by immigrant rights groups before deciding "how or if to move forward."

The Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition said in its letter to the governor that the Secure Communities is "inherently flawed and should not be implemented." CIRC said one of its main concerns is that in cases of domestic violence, where both parties may be taken into custody while authorities investigate a case, victims may feel reluctant to report a crime out of fear that their illegal status will be discovered.

ICE maintains that only suspects arrested for crimes – and not the people reporting them – will be screened for their legal status.

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Secure Communities: http://www.ice.gov/secure_communities/

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03:35 PM on 07/29/2010
Something has to be done about the major problem with illegal immigrants. I know there are many good people legally and/or illegally migrating to this country, but there HAS to be a way to remove the bad ones. Read this story about a twice deported illegal immigrant that tried to kill a police officer...Texas Police Officer Shot by Illegal Immigrant
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09:09 PM on 07/28/2010
Before we take the opinions of Michael Hennessey seriously, just remember that the San Francisco Sheriff is an elected position and he will say (or do) whatever it takes to keep the liberal elites in SF happy enough to reelect him. The jails are a mess up there and he treats inmates better than his own employees. Also Hennessey has never been a police officer or sheriff's deputy (he is a lawyer), so we need to take his opinions as a law enforcement officer with more than a few grains of salt.
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04:23 PM on 07/28/2010
Can't I just get my RFID tag already?
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Mikecoatl
05:30 PM on 07/28/2010
Really. But as bad as it is, it's STILL better than what AZ is doing.
08:59 AM on 07/28/2010
lj9283, While it is true that the large multi-national corporations want slave labor in the U.S. to maximize profits, the Democrats want an amnesty (along with most Republicans for the Corporations) because they have alienated MOST of their constituencies - they want a new class of voters to vote for them - just for the SAKE of POWER! Not because either side has done anything good. They are both failures, and both sides of both parties have been kidnapped by extremists that no longer represent either the Democrats or the Republicans.
At the same time, there is no way to give percentages on what any amount of what undocumented workers are doing. Remember the 19 terrorists that flew into the WTC were all illegal aliens.
I tell my politicians over and over, with the dollar in the dumper, the borders wide open, all the jobs shipped to China and India; Osama Bin Ladin himself could drive in UNCHECKED on the Super Nafta Highway with a Nuclear Weapon and blow us all up and we wouldn't know what happened. Then I tell them "Who needs Terrorists, when we have you"?
They have erased our borders and treat us like a market instead, working everything for their advantage and against us.
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02:59 AM on 07/28/2010
The franklin county Ohio sherrif says they deport illegal aliens from all over the world, about 30 per week. That's just one county, and according to him until now they had no way of knowing if they were wanted for crimes in other jurisdictions. It's about time!!
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Garspies
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11:01 AM on 07/28/2010
They don't deport anybody. ICE does that after the proper hearings. Get the facts straight; Federal Jurisdiction.
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01:58 PM on 07/28/2010
You are being picky. You know exactly what he meant.
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11:00 PM on 07/27/2010
i wanted to respond to this yesterday, but i couldn't find the words to express my disappointment. could we please just stop treating people like cattle??? hasn't America learned its lessons in the 1800's or 1920's. this is a nation of immigrants or have we forgotten that.
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12:54 AM on 07/28/2010
Secure Communities is solely for the purpose of identifying criminals who are illegal immigrants.

"Secure Communities: A Comprehensive Plan to Identify and Remove Criminal Aliens is a Department of Homeland Security initiative that improves public safety by implementing a comprehensive, integrated approach to identify and remove criminal aliens from the United States."

http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/factsheets/secure_communities.htm
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01:59 PM on 07/28/2010
Please don't forget the word "criminal"...
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01:11 AM on 07/28/2010
Actually, that 'nation of immigrants' stuff is poetic, but was never true at all. Most of the Founding Fathers were born in the colonies. Since the founding of the US, most of the people living here have been citizens. All the people born here are citizens. People who came here as immigrants became citizens frequently, and naturalized citizens are citizens just the same. As far as I know, immigrants have never outnumbered citizens at any time. We are a nation of citizens, however we have been very welcoming to legal immigrants throughout our history mostly. We have, right now, the most liberal immigration policy in the world as we admit more immigrants, issue more student and work visas, and naturalize more citizens than any other nation.
We have the right to determine our own immigration policies and to enforce our own laws. Immigration is a privilege and never a right. The fact that we have a liberal immigration policy does not mean we are forced to endure those who want to force their presence on us illegally, nor those who attempt to extort citizenship from us by coming here illegally and then complaining about the consequences.

We're first and foremost a nation of laws and the vast majority of us benefit, every day, from the stability, security and safety that that affords us. We are certainly NOT a nation of illegal aliens. We're not treating people like cattle; illegal aliens made their choice, the consequences are THEIRS.
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10:02 AM on 07/28/2010
I see the new history books are out in circulation. As far as this being a nation of laws, it is not the letter of the law but the spirit of the law. you can not write discrimination into law to justify the racist tendencies of the small group of people, and say 'look, at how civilized we are'.
Conservatives have framed this as a 'us' versus 'them' issue which really allows the hate to come to the surface, while they hide behind the excuse of 'protecting the country'.
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Vlad Tepes
07:20 PM on 07/27/2010
Anything less than 12 million deportations is unacceptable
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jweider
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12:57 AM on 07/28/2010
Agreed! Obama better step it up if he wants my vote again.
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01:13 AM on 07/28/2010
Actually, 12 to 15 million self-deportations is much, much better, but I'll accept any method for them leaving here. CNN ran a story today showing long lines of people at the Mexican Consulate here. I'd say that's a very good indication that enforcement is working!!
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07:01 PM on 07/27/2010
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06:51 PM on 07/27/2010
Everyone can be recognized and tracked by video camera, all the time they are in public.

What is a reasonable policy taking this into account?

All outstanding warrants are checked against all video.

Running from the Police is going to be even less successful than now.

Some people the system won't identify.

But it will create a file, recognize seeing them again and track unidentified people.

It cannot be a crime just to be unidentified.

If an unidentified person commits a crime, the police can find issue a warrant for that face.

Just like we do today with photos or witness drawings.

Fingerprints at the seen of the crime, and DNA can then be compared to whomever the police pick up.
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06:12 PM on 07/27/2010
Illegal immigrants in sanctuary city, Denver, CO are safe from finger printing as a form of immigration identification - LOL

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/02/denver-police-departments_n_633757.html
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06:02 PM on 07/27/2010
Some people here want to make America's only fault in this about drugs.

It is not.

The greatest damage our government and corporations have wreaked in Mexico, Central and South America has been done with economic treaties with names like NAFTA and CAFTA.

Our greedy Wall Street Oligarchs are milking those countries and dozens of others around the world, dry in the name of neo-liberal, free market economics. So much of the land that was redistributed to the People of Mexico and other nations for farming has gone back to the ruling families as our imports make staying alive on the farm impossible for those people.

I am opposed to illegal immigration. I think these laws are a good first step. But I acknowledge our ruler's complicity and realized the potential of a strong middle class in any country, but especially those on our borders!

Some here need to wake up to the fact that what they condemn in Mexico or El Salvador etc. is just a dry run for what the Oligarchs have in mind here.
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08:03 PM on 07/27/2010
We can acknowledge our part in the creation of the problems of Mexico. And we can be there to help in the solutions to the problems. But we can not be the driving force. Until Mexicans are willing to stay and fight for their country it does not matter what we do. It is not our country. Mexicans must be able to find the strength and resources to make their country work. We can not assume that they are incapable of solving their own nation’s problems. We are not Great Britain of the 19th century carrying the ‘white man’s burden’. And the people of Mexico are not helpless children who can not function with out us.

In the mean time we need to solve our own problems.
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08:45 PM on 07/27/2010
Ok so we can acknowledge that we had a part in the creation of the problems of Mexico BUT can't be a driving force in fixing them? So WE create a problem that makes Mexicans want to come to America, call them criminals, arrest them, break up familes and send them back to the place we ruined in the first place? Sounds like the American way.
You say we can't assume they are incapable of solving their problems yet we use our military to solve the problems of Iraq and Afghanistan.
You're right that we are not Great Britain of the 19th century but I'd challenge you to prove we're not worse...
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03:07 AM on 07/28/2010
At the present we are the safety valve for the corrupt Mexican government.
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LindaInAus
04:31 PM on 07/27/2010
Have you ever been burlarized Ever had a friend who was raped? Our system of finding ppl who committed crimes depends on fingerprints (or DNA nowadays).

So I thought *everybody* who is arrested must give fingerprints. What on earth is WRONG with that???? It's the way it's always been, and it is SO necessary.

So those of you who are against it, what do you think is *supposed* to happen when somebody breaks the law...lhave the cops try to 'devine' their identity by reading minds perhaps?? Gheesh, some of the people griping are just being ridiculous.
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05:12 PM on 07/27/2010
I agree. If you are a citizen and you are arrested your fingerprints and all of your personal information is collected, as it should be. Why do people want to give illegals more rights than citizens? This makes no sense what so ever.
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Peter007
05:19 PM on 07/27/2010
Have you ever committed a crime?
If yes, do you thinks it fair that the Police come after you now?

The crimes I'm talking about are.....setting off a firecracker when you were 12 yrs old.
Driving 2 miles over the speed limit on any freeway.
Parking illegally. Having a drink before the age of 21.
Jay walking.
Small crimes? yes. Do you want the police spending billions of dollars coming after people like you?
Crossing the border illegally 12 years ago is and was a minor offense. Less than a speeding ticket.
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05:49 PM on 07/27/2010
If all of the laws on your list are of no importance the best way to correct the situation is to change the laws, not ignore them. However, I don’t think you will get very far in changing any of them. Why? Most of these types of laws were put into effect for public safety. And where you see no value most of the voting public would disagree. Every year thousands of people are injured or killed because of illegal fireworks, jay walking, drinking, driving over the speed limit, etc. Because thousands of people are not injured or killed doing these activities does not make the laws bad, it just makes those people lucky.

If you ever have anyone you know killed by a speeding car you may change you mind about how minor that offense is.
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06:29 PM on 07/27/2010
Crossing the border illegally can get you six months to two years in prison.

"Improper Entry by Alien,"
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Quotidien
03:54 PM on 07/27/2010
Sounds like a good plan to me.
03:52 PM on 07/27/2010
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04:23 PM on 07/27/2010
hi, how are you?
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03:11 PM on 07/27/2010
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03:58 PM on 07/27/2010
I applaud this.

That said, I feel we owe Mexico a great deal. Our economic policies have destroyed much of their infrastructure and allowed for a transfer of wealth and property there that rivals what Wall Street is doing to us Here.

And just as with Iraq or Afghanistan where the cost of the war so far could have rebuilt both countries a dozen times, we could spend 1/10th the money to build Mexico up as we do for the war on drugs and 'protecting' our borders and help to grow a real viable trading partner here in North America.

You won't see it happen, though. The Ruling Classes enjoy the power of their positions too much to ever allow the people to have a middle class again, here or there.
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Viper1st
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05:10 PM on 07/27/2010
2009 - Mexico received $470M in foreign aid from the USA

http://www.cipcol.org/?p=868
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LindaInAus
09:01 PM on 07/27/2010
NO!! Mexico owed the U.S.!

Do you know I'm retired and looked into moving to Mexico because it's cheaper.......and they are very strict...their laws say that I must first prove I have an income of at least $2000 per month and PROVE it with lots of paper work; I cannot own certain property (the best lots); an entire list of things I can't do.......such a long list of things it made it impossible for me to move to Mexico.

They have petty petty reasons to keep out other people yet they whine about AZ's law. Look we're already supporting 10%+ of Mexico right now!! Especially when the Mexican comes here, works, but sends all his money back home.....in other words we're supporting Mexico in part, right now, anyway.

Please get a grip.