Afghan Enemy Hit List Revealed In Leaked US Documents Draws Fire

LOLITA C. BALDOR   07/27/10 06:59 AM ET   AP

Afghan Enemy Hit List

WASHINGTON — When it comes to war, killing the enemy is an accepted fact. Even amid the sensation of the WikiLeaks.org revelations, that stark reality lies at the core of new charges that some American military commando operations may have amounted to war crimes.

Among the thousands of pages of classified U.S. documents released Sunday by the whistle-blower website are nearly 200 incidents that involve Task Force 373, an elite military special operations unit tasked with hunting down and killing enemy combatants in Afghanistan.

Denouncing suggestions that U.S. troops are engaged in war crimes in Afghanistan, military officials and even war crimes experts said Monday that enemy hit lists, while ugly and uncomfortable, are an enduring and sometimes unavoidable staple of war.

Some, however, cautioned that without proper controls that mandate the protection of innocent civilians, such targeted hits could veer into criminal activities.

Buried in the documents are descriptions of Task Force 373's missions, laying bare graphic violence as well as mistakes, questionable judgments and deadly consequences – sometimes under fire, other times not.

In June 2007, the unit went in search of Taliban commander Qari Ur-Rahman. According to the files, U.S. forces, under the cover of night, engaged in a firefight with suspected insurgents and called in an AC-130 gunship to take out the enemy.

Only later did they realize that seven of those killed and four of those wounded were Afghan National Police. The incident was labeled a misunderstanding, due in part to problems with the Afghan forces conducting night operations.

In another mission, members of Task Force 373 conducted a secret raid, hoping to snag al-Qaida commander Abu Laith al-Libi, who was believed to be running terrorist training camps in Pakistan's border region. Five rockets were launched into a group of buildings, and when forces moved into the destroyed area they found six dead insurgents and seven dead children. Al-Libi was not among the dead.

The summary of the incident says initial checks showed no indications that children would be there. And it quotes an Afghan governor later saying that while the residents there were in shock, they "understand it was caused ultimately by the presence of hoodlums – the people think it is good that bad men were killed."

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who organized the release of the classified documents, said he believes these are among "thousands" of U.S. attacks in Afghanistan that could be investigated for evidence of war crimes, although he acknowledged such claims would have to be tested in court.

But even activists well versed in the realm of investigating war crimes would not go that far.

"I don't think this incident rises to the level of a war crime, but it disturbs me greatly that seven children were killed," said Tom Parker, policy director at Amnesty International USA.

The Afghanistan war, with its terrorist hit lists, counterinsurgency battles and high-tech battle gear, presents difficult questions. "It is really hard to know where assassination ends and war starts," said Parker.

Targeted military strikes, he said, are on the fringe of accepted military practice during an armed conflict.

"This is a relatively new form of warfare that we're seeing now," he said. "The technology takes you to a different place and raises questions that just weren't there 20 years ago. A lot of these questions don't have answers – they have a test of acceptability."

Parker voiced concerns that have hounded the military, the administration and members of Congress over the past two years as the war has escalated: How can the U.S. avoid civilian casualties that alienate the very population coalition forces are trying to win over in order to defeat the insurgency?

"This is a war. The enemy is shooting at us, and we're shooting at them," said Rep. Adam Smith, D-Wash. "Are we really suggesting that while the Taliban plant suicide bombs, we shouldn't try to kill anybody?"

Smith said U.S. troops are "aggressively targeting" the Taliban and al-Qaida but any "condemnation of our troops is completely wrong and brutally unfair." Congress and the military, he said, have already identified civilian casualties as a problem that must be corrected, and military leaders have adjusted their war tactics to try and minimize the killing of innocents.

Parker added that Americans may accept the idea of a military team going after an enemy general, but when it's reduced to a hit list of individuals' names, it becomes less palatable.

"Personalization makes people uncomfortable," said Parker.

Still, trying to kill or capture enemy leaders "is precisely what countries do when they are at war," argued Juan Zarate, former senior counterterrorism official in the Bush administration.

As the war in Afghanistan has dragged on, public support in the U.S. and abroad has begun to waver. And the counterinsurgency – which pits U.S. forces against bands of militants rather than another nation's army – blurs the classic battle lines.

There also may be public confusion about the U.S. government's secret hit lists targeting militants.

The military's target list is different from a separate list run by the CIA. The two lists may contain some of the same names – Osama bin Laden, for instance – but they differ because the military and CIA operate under different rules.

While the military can only operate in a war zone, the CIA is allowed to carry out covert actions in countries where the U.S. is not at war.

The CIA's target list came under scrutiny recently when it was revealed that it now includes radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen believed to be hiding in Yemen. Al-Awlaki, who has emerged as a prominent al-Qaida recruiter, was added to the list after U.S. officials determined that he had shifted from encouraging attacks on the U.S. to planning and participating in them.

Also, the CIA uses unmanned aircraft to hunt down and kill terrorists in Pakistan's lawless border regions where the U.S. military does not operate.

The issue becomes murkier when elite military members participate in joint operations with CIA units. In those cases, the military members are assigned to the civilian paramilitary units and operate under the CIA rules, which allow them to take on missions outside of a war zone.

Last December, Gen. David Petraeus, now the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, made it clear the military was going to increase its efforts to kill or capture enemy combatants considered irreconcilable.

Petraeus, who was then the head of U.S. Central Command, said more "national mission force elements" would be sent to Afghanistan this spring. He appeared to be referring to such elite clandestine units as the Delta Force.

"There's no question you've got to kill or capture those bad guys that are not reconcilable," he told Congress.

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Associated Press writers Matt Apuzzo and Ted Bridis contributed to this report.

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02:34 PM on 07/30/2010
"When it comes to war, killing the enemy is an accepted fact."

Perhaps to define "killing" and "accepted" we need to look at our past, documented conduct.

" When we went through the villages and searched people the women would have all their clothes taken off and the men would use their penises to probe them to make sure they didn't have anything hidden anywhere and this was raping but it was done as searching."

"I saw one case where a woman was shot by a sniper, one of our snipers. When we got up to her she was asking for water. And the Lt. said to kill her. So he ripped off her clothes, they stabbed her in both breasts, they spread-eagled her and shoved an E- tool up her vagina, an entrenching tool, and she was still asking for water. And then they took that out and they used a tree limb and then she was shot." - Testimonies from soldiers in the First Marine Division, Vietnam, 1965 - 67, Sponsored by Vietnam Veterans Against the War, Inc.
http://www2.iath.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Winter_Soldier/WS_entry.html
08:20 AM on 07/28/2010
"But even activists well versed in the realm of investigating war crimes would not go that far.

"I don't think this incident rises to the level of a war crime, but it disturbs me greatly that seven children were killed," said Tom Parker, policy director at Amnesty International USA." Wow, if it had been Israel who killed seven children Amnesty would have called it a war crime.

Oh, and it looks like Obama has death squads.
11:53 AM on 07/28/2010
I'd consider myself a progressive / liberal type.

But this is war. I see nothing wrong with doing all we can to stop our enemy.
I think we should pull out, but war and violence is a part of life.

What we shouldn't do is go off starting unfounded wars like Iraq.
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Alwayspissedoffatsomeone
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12:30 AM on 07/28/2010
War is what we do. The human race has trouble co-exsisting. Sure we get along for the most part but time and time again, fighting breaks out. Has happened and will continue to happen for a long, long, time. It's who and what we are. Face it.
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JoeBlough
The Horror. . .The Horror. . .
01:55 AM on 07/28/2010
Angle says "It's all a part of G*d's plan". So live with it and move on.
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Erzsebet Gilbert
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03:40 AM on 07/28/2010
Yeah, humanity has trouble, but I think it's lazy and self-destructive to throw up one's hands to say "it's what we do." It's what we have done, but we're also the species that developed complex linguistics, art, invention, science... we're capable of more. We're capable of terrible crimes, but I want to believe in our ability to evolve ourselves, and I think there are better strategies (even if much more difficult) than war.
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mrJJ
05:25 PM on 07/27/2010
WikiLeaks Iraq Cache More Than Three Times As Big

Source: Newsweek

The cache of classified U.S. military reports on the Iraq War as yet unreleased by WikiLeaks may be more than three times as large as the set of roughly 76,000 similar reports on the war in Afghanistan made public by the whistle-blower Web site earlier this week, Declassified has learned.

Read more:
http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/declassified/2010/07/27/wikileaks-iraq-cache-three-times-bigger.html
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Noisyguy
04:22 PM on 07/27/2010
What about Andrew Breitbart professing his love of Al-Qaeda...???
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Kye154
02:24 PM on 07/27/2010
What the exposed classified records really appears to show are the same type of exploits that U.S. Marine Corps Commandant, Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler, said about our country 75 years ago: "I spent thirty-three years and four months in active service in the country’s most agile military force, the Marines. I served in all ranks from second lieutenant to major general. And during that period I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. Thus I helped make Mexico, and especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenue in. I helped in the raping of half-a-dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. The record of racketeering is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the international banking house of Brown Brothers and Co. in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras ‘right’ for American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested." So, some poor young U.S. Army private takes the brunt of this discloure, because the elitests do not want the rest of us to know what sort of exploitation is actually going on in Afghanistan.
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PathofTotality
Regret serves no purpose
12:20 PM on 07/27/2010
To Mr. Julian Assange:

Good for you, you found secret documents and lists and I am sure your donations to Wikileaks is up but I hope you realize that you more than likely did more good for the Taliban and terrorists than you did for the common good or peace. KUDOS.
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PathofTotality
Regret serves no purpose
12:10 PM on 07/27/2010
I only read about half the article as I continued to get p*ssed.

At what point did anybody, ANYBODY, think that war was neat and clean!?!?!
Someone please name one war where no innocent people died.
I really hate to sound like a cold hearted Bast$%$ but people PLEASE....this is what war is. This is what war does. PERIOD.
I have said it before and I will say it again. I hate that we are in Afghanistan. I hate that people are dying. I wish we would just pack up and leave but at the same time, and if I were on the other end, I would have some severe issue with anybody saying I commited war crimes because of collateral damage / death. These soldiers are trying to stay alive and make monumental decisions while AK-47's, mortars and mines are all around them. Unless you have walked a mile in those shoes, you have ZERO room to speak. BTW, I have not served in the military but I do try to understand reality.
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12:14 PM on 07/27/2010
War crimes? Yep, war is a crime.
02:07 PM on 07/27/2010
I don't think it is the position of anyone sitting safely at their computer to judge the actions of our soldiers or their commanders.

It is certainly not Mr.Assange's place. Or Wikileaks.

History will judge the validity of that war.

What I do know is that al Qaida is at war, have killed Americans, and others, and continue to do so. They must be stopped.

Kind of wondering what Mr. Assanges plan for stopping the murders is?
12:03 PM on 07/27/2010
Julian Assange has no credibility, or any ability what so ever to judge if "war crimes" are being committed. He completely draws conclusions that are taken out of context, ignores the context, or ignores the reality of combat. Quite simply he Monday Morning Quarterbacks without even knowing how to play football.

What angers me about tools like this idiot is that they always remain so silent in regards to the enemy. Like that **** Italian journalist who was kidnapped in Fallujah, her story along with that documentary that supposedly proved U.S. forces used chemical weapons was a joke that any amateur could easily refute.Ditto the claims by Assange.

He actually goes so far as to suggest war crimes when the after report of a battle lists dead, one injured, but no captured. Really? That is not a war crime, that is how it plays out. He has absolutely no knowledge it seems as to the combat conditions in Afghanistan. What a moron.
02:02 PM on 07/27/2010
It surprises me how many people have absolutely no idea how wars are fought.
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11:46 AM on 07/27/2010
As a woman serving in the military and who has been deployed, the only problem I have with what wikileaks is doing is that many people may not understand what has actually happened and may go by what the news is broadcasting (which doesn't mean you get the whole truth) or by what others are saying about the documents. I can say that this war has not been a clean cut one. Our enemy is not clearly defined as it was in WW2 or other past wars. Our enemy uses women and children as shields and human bombs because they know we are trained to not shoot unless we have very clear danger present and we are ordered to keep casualties to a bare minimum. And they know that almost all soldiers value human life, especially when it comes to women and children (sorry that is a bias I am willing to admit to since they are usually oppressed over there). So many Americans see these war through emotionally clouded eyes, I doubt they will be able to fully comprehend these leaked documents.
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PathofTotality
Regret serves no purpose
11:57 AM on 07/27/2010
Thanks for the first hand input and be safe.
Thanks also for the sacrifices.
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SrAN
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12:10 PM on 07/27/2010
I try to give first hand input because so many rely on the news to find out what is going on overseas. Sadly the news only gives what benefits them and that is usually the bad news or the news that will bring in viewers. The same goes with these documents. It is hard to tell what went on when you are reading notes that have been called wrong or misleading due to lack of evidence...War is a confusing thing and can only be put into perspective by those who have lived it.
12:02 PM on 07/27/2010
My thanks as well.
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11:39 AM on 07/27/2010
What's this fight worth that we'd commit these crimes? You really have to get out of a war to think straight about it, just like Vietnam. We committed a lot of war crimes in Vietnam for nothing.
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joelb5000
11:18 AM on 07/27/2010
This is ridiculous. If you don't want deaths in war, send the peace corps. If your country votes for war accept the fact that trained soldiers are going to have to kill someone. The whole point of these targeted killings is to minimize the deaths of innocent civilians as much as is practically possible on a battlefield.
11:29 AM on 07/27/2010
That is a fact so many people seem not to understand.

And people can say we shouldn't be at war.

But that is certainly not al Qaidas opinion. People might remember al Qaida declared war on the USA. And then backed it up with attacks on 9/11/01.
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yoyodyne666
is it friday yet?
11:36 AM on 07/27/2010
If you don't want war, don't start them. If you don't want terrorism, don't do terrorism.
11:41 AM on 07/27/2010
And what exactly happened on 9/11/01 after all?
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Erzsebet Gilbert
author, expat, traveler
03:31 AM on 07/28/2010
And the funny (not funny) thing is that America commits terrorism in supposed retaliation for terrorism... Terrorism is a tactic (through which one strikes terror into another), not a sect or faction, but when as a method it's employed by a government it's called plain old war. But consider drone bombings, rendition, civilian death, secret prisons... terrorism. At least should stop the hypocrisy.
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Balzac
11:16 AM on 07/27/2010
From the article: Smith said U.S. troops are "aggressively targeting" the Taliban and al-Qaida but any "condemnation of our troops is completely wrong and brutally unfair."

Rep Adam Smith is right about this. Condemnation of the military personnel would be very inappropriate except for in the most egregious cases. Conventional war tactics have been used, as well as tactics developed in recent decades, and it's all happening in a digital age, in which almost everything which happens is on the record.

For the American public to suddenly condemn a bunch of military personnel when they're using the tactics which have been approved for decades, because suddenly it's all being recorded by lots of server logs and mobile devices would be to blame our bravest merely for the results of military policy they do not create and advancements of information technology which reveal the true impact of war as it has never before been known to the general public.

Very few of cases will be found to involve deliberate and malicious misconduct, but it does happen, and it must not be tolerated when it is revealed. Even so, when the worst deeds known to have been done were revealed to the public about the Iraq War, I still said that even though those who were guilty of these crimes must be punished, it's not right that they should be punished before Bush and Cheney. I stand by this.
11:31 AM on 07/27/2010
It is not up to Wikileaks to judge the conduct of American soldiers and sailors who lives are at risk.
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Balzac
11:41 AM on 07/27/2010
Julian Assange of WikiLeaks has chosen to publish the information, and it was the right choice for the general good of the public. Military policies must advance, and the inevitable disclosure of war information such as this will help shape military policy going forward.

The ubiquitous recording devices, and the logging of network activity are facts of life which must be considered in military strategy. WikiLeaks is not the judge, merely the site on which the information has been published for the consideration of the public.
11:15 AM on 07/27/2010
I am amazed with the levels of ignorance and confusion in these posts, most of which simply quote the ------ owned and operated MSM.

It is obvious that ------ educational systems do not produce independent thinkers essential to a "Democratic" system.

In stead we have emotional outbursts where there should be reasoned ( not reasonable ) dialog.

AH well, Y'all have a nice day now
10:46 AM on 07/27/2010
read some of the posts here and im thinking id rather have the gay soldier fighting with me, then these huffpost sheeple!
03:36 PM on 07/27/2010
Wow how big of you