Arizona Immigration Law: Court Ruling A Warning To Other States

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PHOENIX — The showdown over Arizona's immigration law played out in court and on Phoenix's sun-splashed streets on Thursday, as the state sought to reinstate key parts of the measure and angry protesters chanted that they refused to "live in fear." Dozens were arrested.

A federal judge's decision a day earlier to block the strict law's most controversial elements didn't dampen the raging immigration debate.

The judge has been threatened. Protesters rallied in cities from Los Angeles to New York. The sheriff of the state's most populous county vowed to continue targeting illegal immigrants. Lawmakers or candidates in as many as 18 states say they still want to push similar measures.

Along the U.S.-Mexico border, life continued as before, with officials sending back people who were captured while attempting to cross.

In Phoenix, hundreds of the law's opponents massed at a downtown jail, beating on the metal door and forcing sheriff's deputies to call for backup. Officers in riot gear opened the doors, waded out into the crowd and hauled off those who didn't move. They arrested at least 23 people, and more were detained elsewhere.

Activists focused their rage at Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, the 78-year-old ex-federal drug agent known for his immigration sweeps.

Outside his downtown office, marchers chanted "Sheriff Joe, we are here. We will not live in fear." One was dressed in a papier-mache "Sheriff Joe" head and prison garb.

"I'm not going to be intimidated and stopped," he said. "If I have to go out and get in the car, I'll do it."

Sheriff's spokesman Brian Lee said deputies were able to start the sweep Thursday afternoon and arrested four people: two had warrants for suspended licenses, one had a suspended license, and one was illegally carrying a firearm. He did not know if any were illegal immigrants.

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Activists, armed with video cameras and aided by others listening to police scanners, roamed the county's neighborhoods, saying they were ready to document any deputies harassing Hispanics.

In Tucson, between 50 and 100 people on both sides of the issue gathered at a street corner. About 200 protesters blocked a busy Los Angeles intersection, with police arrested about a dozen who were linked with plastic pipes and chains.

In New York, about 300 immigrant advocates rallied near the federal courthouse in lower Manhattan.

"It's one step closer for us, but I think the fight is still ahead," said Adelfa Lugo, a 56-year-old Mexican-born Brooklyn resident who joined the protest. "If we don't fight this in Arizona, this anti-immigrant feeling will spread across the country."

Since Wednesday's ruling, U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton has received thousands of phone calls and e-mails. Some were positive, but others were "from people venting and who have expressed their displeasure in a perverted way," said David Gonzales, the U.S. Marshal for Arizona.

Gonzales said his agents are taking some of the threats to Bolton seriously. He wouldn't say how many there were or whether any threats were coming from recognized hate groups. He refused to discuss any extra security measures, which U.S. marshals routinely provide federal judges.

The protests came as Gov. Jan Brewer appealed Bolton's ruling to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

Brewer, who hired lawyers to defend the law in court, hopes the court will act quickly, saying illegal immigration remains an ongoing crisis.

Arizona has more than 400,000 illegal immigrants, and its border with Mexico is awash with smugglers who funnel narcotics and immigrants throughout the U.S. The law's supporters say the influx of illegal migrants drains vast sums of money from hospitals, education and other services.

The Obama administration has decided to send National Guard troops to the border states to help federal agents with security.

Along the U.S.-Mexico border in punishing temperatures of more than 100 degrees Thursday, two immigrants climbed a fence and fled on foot, while a third threw rocks in the direction of Border Patrol agents. The officers arrested them. New deportees congregated around Nogales.

The Arizona National Guard officials say they hope to have 524 troops in place by the end of September. Troops are expected to arrive at the border in New Mexico and Texas by mid-August, and California officials have estimated an Oct. 1 deadline to have troops fully deployed there.

In Phoenix, demonstrators had promised nonviolent civil disobedience, and they gathered in front of the sheriff's office by the hundreds, blocking traffic and swarming around several cars caught in the protest.

Police moved in to try to allow the drivers to leave, as the crowd shouted, "We will not comply."

Over the next hour, the crowd surged, chanted, yelled and some protesters forced the arrests. They then moved on the to jail.

As Arpaio held a news conference, he got a telephone call, and he told the caller: "OK, we're going to divert our deputies down in front of the jail ... What you do, anybody that resists, you put 'em in our jail. We're going to lock 'em up."

Then he turned to reporters: "As I said, we're not going to allow our jails to be held hostage by these activists, so they're going to jail.

"And if we have to put 200 in there, that's where they're going," he said, adding that the sweeps would continue.

During the sweeps, deputies usually flood an area of a city – in some cases heavily Latino areas – to seek out traffic violators and arrest other alleged lawbreakers. Sixty percent of the nearly 1,000 people arrested in the sweeps since early 2008 have been illegal immigrants.

Critics say deputies racially profile Hispanics. Arpaio says deputies approach people only when they have probable cause.

The Justice Department launched an investigation of his office nearly 17 months ago over allegations of discrimination and unconstitutional searches and seizures. Although the department has declined to detail its investigation, Arpaio believes it centers on his sweeps.

The agency's civil rights attorneys and investigators were in Phoenix Thursday as part of their probe, DOJ spokeswoman Xochitl Hinojosa said. She declined to comment on the status of the inquiry or answer any other questions.

In October 2009, when the federal government stripped Arpaio of his power to let 100 deputies make federal immigration arrests, he launched another sweep the next day.

Unable to make arrests under a federal statute, the sheriff instead relied on a nearly 5-year-old state law that prohibits immigrant smuggling.

The elements of the new law that took effect on Thursday will likely aid Arpaio in his immigration efforts.

In her temporary injunction, Bolton delayed the most contentious provisions of the law, including a section that required officers to check a person's immigration status while enforcing other laws.

Bolton indicated the federal government's case has a good chance at succeeding in its argument that federal immigration law trumps state law.

But she allowed police to enforce the law's bans on blocking vehicle traffic when seeking or offering day-labor services and a revision to the smuggling ban that lets officers stop drivers if they suspect motorists have broken traffic laws.

Bolton also let officers enforce a new prohibition on driving or harboring illegal immigrants in furtherance of their illegal presence.

Opponents of the law said the ruling sends a strong message to other states hoping to replicate the law.

But a Republican lawmaker in Utah said the state will likely take up a similar law anyway when their legislative sessions start up again in 2011.

"The ruling ... should not be a reason for Utah to not move forward," Utah state Rep. Carl Wimmer said.

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Associated Press writers Michelle Price, Paul Davenport and Bob Christie in Phoenix, Alicia A. Caldwell in El Paso, Texas, Jae Hong in Nogales, Mexico, and Sara Kugler Frazier in New York contributed to this report.

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PHOENIX — The showdown over Arizona's immigration law played out in court and on Phoenix's sun-splashed streets on Thursday, as the state sought to reinstate key parts of the measure and angry p...
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ChiGuy   12:28 PM on 7/29/2010
Contrary to the frequent right wing talking point, being in this country is NOT a crime.

""Illegal presence" as the offense is called, is not a violation of the U.S. criminal code. A person cannot be sent to prison for being here without authorization from immigration authorities. It is, however, a violation of civil immigration laws, for which the federal government can impose civil penalties,  Read More...
econ1   04:55 PM on 8/04/2010
Ed Koch, ex mayor of NYC had a good letter to the editor on the immigration issue:

"The President appears to be telling the American public that the U.S. government can't keep our borders safe from illegal entry. But if the feds really wanted to prevent illegal entry, they would send more of the National Guard to the borders with the mission of preventing illegals from entering, which is what most Americans believe they could and should do. How do other countries protect their borders? Mexico does not open its southern border to illegals from Central and South America. It arrests, detains and sends them back to their home countries, as President Felipe Calderon admitted in a recent interview on CNN. Is the USA less competent than Mexico in the matter of border security?"

Clearly if the federal government was doing its job (you have to love the comment by Napolitano that they had seized record amounts of guns, and illegal drugs at the border as proof of things getting better), Arizona would not be trying to fix things on their own.
AZreb   08:41 AM on 8/04/2010
Missouri just passed a law NULLIFYING the federal health care bill - will the feds now sue Missouri?
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Eris23Skidoo   02:15 PM on 8/01/2010
What is this "arresting people" nonsense. I had thought that riot pigs no longer beat up, harassed, gassed and arrested protesters. They seemed to have stopped doing that when teabaggers became the "typical" protester. I guess they treat teabaggers one way and other Americans another way. Typical, and unconstitutional.
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IndyFem   05:09 PM on 7/30/2010
It's so sad that so many want to make this all about "race" when it is actually about "security." Are these same people offended that their luggage is inspected prior to getting on a plane....even though they are not doing anything wrong? Do they cry "racism" when something is taken away from them before they board the plane (I had an eye-brow tweezer confiscated) even though they had no intention of using it to cause harm? Well...just as we are trying to avoid threats in the sky..we need to try and avoid threats on the ground as well. If it causes some people inconvenience...so be it...it's for the common good of us all. If I vwere concerned about being "targeted" for no reason....I would carry my ID with me...whats the big deal?
Dr Von Zuko   08:13 PM on 7/30/2010
It is interesting to me that those who always make “race” the issue, are in fact the racists!

I live and work in an environment where nearly everyone is from a different country (including Mexico, India, Russia, China, Africa, France, Canada, Egypt and the US), and of every race and religion . . . We go out to lunch together, go to civic functions together, share our thoughts on current movies and sports, and talk about our families. Our children play together.

Racial or national differences are never any issue at all. I think many of these people who play the 'race card' to try to win their arguments, simply have no experience with, or knowledge of anyone of a different background outside of their own little circle of negativity.
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IndyFem   09:35 PM on 7/30/2010
Dr...I hope that everyone reads your post....because it makes sense as to "why" some people think "racism" off the bat...regarding every issue. I have been treated to homemade tamales from my Mexican friends, turned onto Middle Eastern food by my Islamic clients and just recently my new friends from Bangladesh had a "sari" made for me so that I could wear it to their events (if I chose to)...It doesn't matter...we are all on this earth together. Thanks for writing what you did...maybe it will open some eyes.
irishchannel   12:06 PM on 7/31/2010
Dr Von Zuko, your post is too intelligent for this blog.
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Eris23Skidoo   02:18 PM on 8/01/2010
How very thoughtful and very naive. The fact is, white supremacists pushed for this law to come into affect. You say that "racial or national differences are never any issue at all". Have you ever heard of Hitler? How about Freedom Fries? You still think all these beautiful thoughts you came up with are true?
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pecosdog   11:31 PM on 7/30/2010
This law was actually written by a known white supremacist, Pearce who did not have any other thoughts in mind but to harass American hispanic citizens when he wrote it. There is absolutely nothing that this law does for security and you know it. Arizona is and always has been a bigot state and this is just the latest episode in their sorry history of bigotry. Starting out by being penned by a bigot, this law goes nowhere but down and fast. Sorry that you are upset about that and that your life today seems to resolve around your angst on the ruling. Can't believe you are still posting on this,
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Eris23Skidoo   02:23 PM on 8/01/2010
Maybe you would find it to be more racist if the law were targeting middle-aged, brown-haired ladies with "bob" haircuts and red shirts who think they are "indy". You don't mind being the one inconvenienced? You don't mind being the one who the lawmen are focused on? You don't mind if other kids call your kids names, like, son-of-a-brown-haired-lady-in-a-red-shirt and ostracize your children for having a relationship with you? You don't mind being wrongly deported just because you failed to bring your ID with you while jogging (no pockets) and were busted jaywalking?

And you don't even REALIZE that you are a racist.
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IndyFem   04:16 PM on 8/01/2010
Personal Attacks are very immature...at least I have the guts to show my face..unlike you!
irishchannel   08:59 PM on 8/01/2010
Eris23, you are whiney and paranoid dude. There are worse places you could be right now, like Darfur - which I think would be an excellent experience for you.
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BoyInBOYCOTT   04:46 PM on 7/30/2010
IWantTofu   03:30 PM on 7/30/2010
What happens to the Latino who is an American citizen who is asked for their working papers? Will the law enforcement officer believe that person when he says he's an American? Remember the movie with Cheech Marin, "Born in East L.A." who get deported to Mexico even though he's an American.
IWantTofu   04:02 PM on 7/30/2010
Since no one wants to step up with an answer to the question I posed, I'll answer it myself.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2009/08/30/917007/nc-native-wrongly-deported-to.html

An American of Puerto Rican decent (born in the Continental U.S., not the American territory of Puerto Rico), who doesn't speak Spanish got deported to Mexico. I put the weblink for those who are skeptical and too lazy to research it yourselves.
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IndyFem   04:26 PM on 7/30/2010
Lets not forget Boarder Patrol Agents, Ramos & Compean, who went to prison for trying to protect our country and their own lives from a violent drug smuggler apprehended crossing our border. Did your Puerto Rican friend have to spend years in prison?
Dr Von Zuko   07:06 PM on 7/30/2010
No system is perfect of course, but again, if you have ‘honest intent’ and are ‘legally’ in the country any mistakes are easily cleared up.

I have lived and worked in several countries, both in Asia and Europe and I am currently a legal citizen of the U.S. In every country, I always had to be prepared to prove my legality for being there. I was never insulted being asked (and I was asked on several occasions) because those were/are the laws of the country in question . . . and I had nothing to hide.

I was even detained for several hours once in Canada. But, I was able to prove my intent and legality . . . and I was not offended (it was their law). Here in the US if I am stopped by police in traffic or what ever, I willingly produce my driver’s license . . . that proves I am a resident. I had to prove my legality to my employer as well to get a job, and I didn’t mind. Again, I say there are millions of legal immigrants in the US . . . because it is simply the morally correct thing to do.

In a due respect, we should all obey the laws of what ever country we are in . . . or expect the eventual negative consequence. There is never any valid excuse to "break the law."
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Eris23Skidoo   02:28 PM on 8/01/2010
Nor is there an excuse for pigs to deport American citizens who don't have their ID on them, but this law will create just such a situation. You really are naive, "doctor".
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eethry   08:50 PM on 8/11/2010
They'll be pulling people over cause they are brown, people who are brown will have to go through more of this, and I'm already forseeing some legal immigrants losing there job over this just because they speak with an accent. If we should obey the laws of whatever country we're in, isn't Arizona in the United States, shouldn't Arizona follow Arizona's law no matter the inconvenience to them?
Dr Von Zuko   02:36 PM on 7/30/2010
With all due respect: The US has over 60 types of non-immigrant (meaning non-permanent) US visas. It's not that difficult to be legally permitted to work here so, there is no legitimate excuse not to be a “documented worker.” You just have to want to be legal in the first place!

Ohhh . . . but wait! If you're legal, you (and your employer) will likely have to pay taxes . . . and thus, contribute your fair share to pay for those wonderful social services we all enjoy, just like legal visitors, workers, and citizens do!

There are several million legal immigrants and workers in the US, of all races, creeds and colors (it’s what makes America great). And we are honest, hard working people who contribute fairly to the society that we live in. We all have one thing in common. We came to this country with an honest intent. We respected the laws and people of the United States and filled out the forms and went through the process to be legal.

It all starts with “Honest intent!”
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IndyFem   03:51 PM on 7/30/2010
Fanned/Faved....So many posters on here do not realize that you do NOT have to be a "citizen" to be legally in this country. That is the purpose for Visas.
IWantTofu   03:53 PM on 7/30/2010
What about the "citizen" who is asked for their Visa or working papers? Do you carry around with you your working paper, or documents that prove that you are in this country legally?
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Eris23Skidoo   02:32 PM on 8/01/2010
Riiiiight. Most people who are here illegally would take the legal route IF THERE WAS ONE for nonwhites. But we have a QUOTA for nonwhites where we don't have a quota for whites. I don't believe that undocumenteds are here trying to evade taxes. They work harder than you do and they send most of their earnings home while living in cramped conditions (three families to an apartment). I don't think they came all this way just to avoid paying taxes. This might be the motivation for their EMPLOYERS, who are NOT targeted in this racist, anti-American, Arizona law.
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eethry   08:54 PM on 8/11/2010
What intent is more honest then wanting to work and support your family. The difference between legal and illegal is papers, but if we're speaking of honest intent, 99% of immigrants come here with "honest intent"

If you really wanted them to give back into the system with taxes, you would fight to make it alot more easier for them to get papers. Shoot we should just give them papers right now, those who work and make them get paid legitimately then under the table.
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IndyFem   09:47 PM on 8/11/2010
I have clients from Bangladesh who recently went through all of the paper-work (tax returns, employer's verification of employment statements, fingerprinting, bank account statements, birth certificates, etc...plus paid the required government fees) JUST TO GET THEIR PARENTS VISAS SO THAT THEY COULD COME VISIT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN HERE IN THE US ONCE A YEAR!!! If someone is too lazy to do the same.....or has something to hide...and is willing to spit on our laws...they should not be allowed into our country! PERIOD
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IndyFem   11:34 AM on 7/30/2010
Whenever I have been pulled over...I have had to provide both my Drivers License and Car Registration....If you can't produce these on the spot ..or...if they are not current....there will be a price to pay. I am white...Is it OK to ask me for Identification...but not OK to ask a Hispanic for it?
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pecosdog   11:45 AM on 7/30/2010
You have never been pulled over BECAUSE you are white.
irishchannel   12:34 PM on 7/30/2010
How do you know?
madfigs   02:54 PM on 7/30/2010
Neither your drivers license nor your car registration have anything to do with your Immigration/Citizenship status.
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itschuck2c   06:37 PM on 7/30/2010
Most states require a birth certificate, there are some that dont but that will change inside a year with the deadline of the real id act. Now the states dont have to comply with real id act, but I am sure federal funds will pulled from said state so Im sure they will comply.
MAGLATINA   03:02 PM on 7/30/2010
Indy, I bet the cops never tried to find out if you are legal in the country. And if you don't produce your license and registration papers you get a ticket and ultimately you pay a fine... you are not thrown into jail ... at least , not in the US. ... gee, am I wrong? Are some authorities somewhere in the US believe they are above the Constitution and do as they please? Like having imprisioned women in chains while delivering babies?
IWantTofu   03:33 PM on 7/30/2010
As a 6th generation American who doesn't happen to be white, I've been asked countless times when did I come to this country. Being a white girl growing up in a white world, have you ever been asked that?
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IndyFem   03:45 PM on 7/30/2010
No I haven't but....I HAVE asked others if they were born here if they have a heavy accent ...its just friendly "conversation" to me...nothing judgemental about it. Besides ALL of our ancestors came here from someowhere else at some point (outside of Native Americans, of course). I also sometimes ask handicapped people "What Happened?" Great thing is that they are always happy to answer. I am curious about people, thats all.
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Eris23Skidoo   02:35 PM on 8/01/2010
Have you ever gone jogging? Do you put your ID in your jogging pants that don't have pockets, or do you put it in the huge, belly-pocket where it's likely to fall out? While jogging, have you ever cut across a road when no cars were coming in order to keep your pace up? That is called "jaywalking" but white people can do it without fear of being deported over it.

Jogging, apparently, is only for white people. Because if you are caught jogging while nonwhite, you will be asked for your ID and deported for not having it on you.
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gems   10:44 AM on 7/30/2010
And history shall continue repeating itself. This sounds just like the way we treated the black community. They were brought to this country, abuse them and use them for cheap labor, and when they stood up for their rights it was time for them to leave.
We are exactly treating the Latino community with the same hatred.
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IndyFem   11:25 AM on 7/30/2010
Not the same thing at all.
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pecosdog   11:46 AM on 7/30/2010
Said the white girl from Indiana.
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Eris23Skidoo   02:36 PM on 8/01/2010
Yes it is. You are a racist and don't even know it. You spew racism through all of your comments on this matter.
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sjpersonal   04:14 PM on 8/02/2010
Indy,

I have been folliwing this thread, and from a non-white. Girl, ignore them you are not coming off as racist. The problem is that you have a difference of opinion.

How dare you LOL! Everyone who is not 100% against enforcement of immigration laws, is to some people, automatically branded a racist, tea bagger or nazi. These terms are thrown around so easily now that they are quickly losing weight.

Have a great day. You are Fanned!
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sjpersonal   04:11 PM on 8/02/2010
Sorry, but the "Black Community" that you mentioned did not cross the border into this country illegally! They were US Citizens. There is a very very big difference!
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IndyFem   08:43 PM on 8/02/2010
SJ...Thanks...I think that some people want to drag the Black Community into this ILLEGAL immigration thing even though they aren't even a part of it....because they want to make this a "color" issue when it is not. Its about anyone of any color sneaking into our country illegally. Frankly, both my white and black friends think the same way as I do on the issue.
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IndyFem   08:44 PM on 8/02/2010
I am your fan now, too!
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eethry   08:57 PM on 8/11/2010
No, your right on the not illegal part. but being treated differently cause of the color of your skin, yeah Latinos can say they're having more then there fair share right now of that.
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dnalpahs   10:37 AM on 7/30/2010
Please tell me, why does Obama's federal government argue that Arizona's immigration law that is attempting to support federal law interferes with federal enforcement of immigration law, but Obama has not sued Sanctuary Cities who openly defy federal law?

Are Democrats that upside down on this issue? Is Obama that dense? Is this just sacrificing our own citizens for political gain by the liberals?

Despite a 1996 federal law [the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act ( IIRIRA )] that requires local governments to cooperate with Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), many large urban cities (and some small) have adopted so-called "sanctuary policies." Generally, sanctuary policies instruct city employees not to notify the federal government of the presence of illegal aliens living in their communities. The policies also end the distinction between legal and illegal immigration--so illegal aliens often benefit from city services too.

If an entity in Los Angeles or San Francisco brings suit to stop those cities from being "Sanctuary Cities" there might be a citation concerning this law based on the recent federal ruling in AZ. The Federal Government intervening into this matter may have actually opened the door to true enforcement of immigration policies.
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ObamAtomic   11:16 AM on 7/30/2010
Legally you are Defeated! ---The Supremacy Clause
Racially you are Defeated!---Racism is wrong
Politically you are Defeated!---Then tent is little,folded.

Get over it!””
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itschuck2c   06:42 PM on 7/30/2010
You never actually respond to a post with something relating to said post do you..
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eethry   09:09 PM on 8/11/2010
First she's trying to surpass the federal government, that in itself should get her kicked out. It's not in her jurisdiction, simple. She's part of the mob scene instead of keeping her head up high. We're all broke, and it's not because of the immigrants.

Second I thought you were innocent before being guilty, with this law your guilty just for being brown. "Hey you look suspicious, proof of legality like your birth certificate, please."

Third, it's already been ruled that solicitation of work is freedom of speech.
"Hola, cualquiera trabajo?" Ok my spanish is bad, but this guys are just hanging around, and then getting work for the day. Seriously, use all this energy and attack Wall Street that messed us up in the first place.
SilenceDoGood1776   10:25 AM on 7/30/2010
Don't worry. Immigration and naturalization is looking into cutting congress out of the loop so they can grant amnesty without congresses approval.
Candide33   10:24 AM on 7/30/2010
Cost of living is so cheap in Mexico, I bet you could buy a couple of acres with unemployment checks. Whole towns have been emptied out, it would be easy enough for us to just move in. We should organize a run across the border in October, when it is cooler. If millions of us show up and demand that Mexico take us in as economic refugees, what do you think will happen?
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ObamAtomic   11:17 AM on 7/30/2010
Arizona apartments are renting below market price,no renters.
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cmb53208   12:58 PM on 7/30/2010
Hmm, it would appear that people don't want to live under Arpiaotheid after all.
irishchannel   12:46 PM on 7/30/2010
I think that's a splendid idea. We could buy up real cool whole little towns, or even tropical ocean front. Do like a one on one exchange with the same benefits (that's only fair) - so that would be like 20 million U.S. citizens (no exclusions because of race).

I'm gain.
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ObamAtomic   09:31 AM on 7/30/2010
Move on!

Legally you are Defeated! ---The Supremacy Clause
Racially you are Defeated!---Racism is wrong
Politically you are Defeated!---Then tent is little,folded.

Get over it!
gunrunner99   08:32 AM on 7/30/2010
AZprogressive, see- there you go,I ask for an answer to my questions and even said please and,you start with your name calling,why are you so angry? You still didnt answer any of my questions,just got hateful.Never mind,you dont have the answers anyway.
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Eris23Skidoo   02:51 PM on 8/01/2010
This would make a lot more sense if you would post it TO an actual comment by this AZprogressive person where AZprog is refusing to answer your Q's and is just name-calling.
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IllTakeTheRedEye   05:23 AM on 7/30/2010
...protesters chanted that they refused to "live [by the law]"

When you live by the law, you have nothing to "fear."

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