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Four More Years Of War -- Just For Starters

Obama Waving Splash

First Posted: 07/30/10 10:30 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:15 PM ET

The ever-accumulating case against the war in Afghanistan was bolstered this week by WikiLeaks's dissemination of over 70,000 previously secret reports documenting in vivid and unvarnished detail the brutality and futility of the American mission there.

But even as the public's patience with the war in Afghanistan is growing shorter, the timeline for an American troop withdrawal appears to be growing longer.

There are increasingly clear signs that President Obama's vow to start withdrawing American troops less than a year from now will be fulfilled through a technicality if at all, and that the real timeline for significant troop withdrawal -- barring a change in course -- now extends at least to 2014, if not far beyond.

One signal was Vice President Joe Biden's offhand remark to ABC News earlier this month that the promised summer withdrawal "could be as few as a couple thousand troops" although "it could be more."

This from the administration's most prominent opponent of escalation, a man who had earlier said you could "bet on" a "whole lot of people moving out" in July 2011.

The uninspiring Senate testimony in mid-July from Richard Holbrooke, Obama's special envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, also raised red flags. Holbrooke repeatedly ducked questions about what the administration's desired "end state" is, and whether things are going along on schedule. He instead pointed senators toward a list of what he called "benchmarks."

But the document to which Holbrooke referred is in fact full of vague, sometimes entirely unmeasurable "milestones" that carry no deadlines and trigger no consequences.

"All of these benchmarks are designed to pacify onlookers on the Hill, help to justify our presence in the country, and set unrealistic goals that everyone knows are not going to be met," said retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor, a respected military strategist and author. "You're never going to achieve them. None of this is aimed at extricating American power and forces from anywhere."

So, asked for an exit strategy, the administration instead offered up guidelines for an endless occupation.

And then last week, in a nearly unnoticed development at an international conference in Kabul, world leaders including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton expressed their "support for the President of Afghanistan's objective that the Afghan National Security Forces (ANSF) should lead and conduct military operations in all provinces by the end of 2014."

That's right: The end of 2014.

"I was kind of struck that the 2014 didn't get more critical attention than it did," said Paul R. Pillar, formerly the CIA's top Middle East analysis and now a Georgetown University professor. "The war will have gone on 13 years at that point."

Pillar said he expected a strong public reaction along the lines of "Wait, what does that imply in terms of our troop presence? In terms of how fast or how slowly our withdrawal next year is going to go?" And: "Whoa, you mean it's going to be another four years from now... and even that's not total victory?"

And keep in mind that 2014 is the corrupt, ineffective Afghan President Hamid Karzai's best-case scenario. That's if all goes according to plan. And nothing in Afghanistan ever goes according to plan.

Indeed, the Guardian recently reported that plans made not so long ago to begin handing control of some provinces to Afghan security forces by the end of this year "have been quietly dropped."

The British paper also noted: "Gen. David Petraeus is said to be planning a campaign measured in years, not months."

The uselessness of the so-called "benchmarks" the administration is now citing, in a document entitled Afghanistan and Pakistan Regional Stabilization Strategy, are particularly telling.

Some are specific -- but meaningless in the absence of a target date:

200,000 farmers and entrepreneurs have access to credit.

Some are naïve:

Improved service delivery at the sub-national level in the critical areas of health, education, and security.

"That means you're going to create a national system in a place that has never been a nation-state?" asked Macgregor, the military strategist. "If you wait for that one, you will be in Afghanistan for about 200 years."

Some are delusional. For instance under the heading of reducing corruption:

Appointment of competent, reform-minded leaders of critical ministries... and also to key provincial and district positions in the South and East.

Macgregor grumbled to the Huffington Post: "If they find them there, they should recruit them and use them here first."

Some are naïve, delusional, unmeasurable and meaningless all at once.

Afghanistan's neighbors begin to shift their policies to reinforce increased cooperation, over time.

Macgregor sees the benchmarks not as reflecting a sincere attempt to describe a way out of Afghanistan. Rather he sees them as a witting or unwitting reflection of the neoconservative desire to keep the American military deployed in that region indefinitely. "They're designed to keep you in Afghanistan, because you're never going to achieve them," he said.

"If you wanted to pick a place that was a nightmare for every conceivable form of nation-building, Afghanistan would be it," Macgregor said. Only the people that live there can fix their problems, he said. "It's not going to happen as a result of military power."

It's worth noting that the benchmarks document itself apparently went through a pretty serious declawing process, sometime between last September, when the Foreign Policy website got hold of an early draft, and January, when the first version of the existing plan was first released.

For instance, gone from the new plan is this commitment:

By March 30, 2010 and on regular intervals thereafter, the interagency will draft an assessment of progress in Afghanistan and Pakistan. As a check and balance on the interagency, a separate assessment will also be produced by a Red Team, led by the National Intelligence Council."

In the earlier draft, but missing from the final version, are actually measurable metrics, such as "percent of population living in districts/areas under insurgent control" and "Afghan Government's institutions at the national, provincial, and local level, including ability to hold credible elections in 2009 and 2010" (already quite definitively resolved to the negative.)

The administration's aversion to real benchmarks is understandable, to a certain extent. So far, all accountability has got them is heartache.

Specifically, in audit report after audit report, the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction (SIGAR), Arnold Fields, has exposed major problems not just in accomplishing key goals, but also in the administration's attempts at measuring them.

For instance, the successful development of Afghan security forces is, of course, central to Obama's strategy. But the SIGAR reported last month that the "Capability Milestone" rating system (CM) that has been the Pentagon's primary metric for measuring the development of Aghan forces had overstated their capabilities.

Among other problems the SIGAR found, top-rated Afghan units were not capable of what the Pentagon said they were, and the rating system didn't sufficiently account for such endemic problems as attrition, corruption, poor leadership, drug abuse, and illiteracy.

And then there's the single biggest problem with benchmarks: Their fundamental misuse by this administration, just like the last one. Benchmarks only really mean something if meeting them -- or failing to meet them -- has consequences.

But Obama, just like George W. Bush did with Iraq, refuses to say what message he will take from these assessments. If we meet the benchmarks, does that mean mission accomplished and we can leave? And more realistically, if we fail to meet the benchmarks, does that mean we have to try harder? Or does it mean that we finally acknowledge the futility of the enterprise and withdraw?

Ironically, it was then-senator Obama who, back in 2007, asked then-secretary of state Condoleezza Rice the exact questions he won't answer today, namely: What if things don't go according to plan? What if the occupied country's government remains in shambles? What exactly are the benchmarks for success? And what are the consequences if they are not met? Is the United States really willing to walk away? (See my December column, Obama's Questions for Obama.)

But when it comes to the "or else" part of the benchmarks, Obama, just like Bush, is boxed in because he has declared this to be a war that we must win.

Meanwhile, however, Obama remains on the record as saying that his commitment to Afghanistan is not open-ended. "There's gotta be an exit strategy," he told CBS News last April. "There's gotta be a sense that this is not perpetual drift."

But perpetual drift is as good a description of what we're seeing today as any. And the longer the drift continues, the louder the voices of concern and dissent will get.

Already, there are signs that the political dynamic that has fueled our war efforts may be shifting. Since 9/11, continuing the war has generally been seen by politicians as synonymous with supporting the troops and keeping our nation secure. (It's the ultimate victory of the Neocons.) In reality, of course, they are not synonymous at all -- if anything, they are inimical. But with the Republican Party in lockstep behind the war effort, the Democratic leadership -- terrified of appearing weak -- has gone along enthusiastically.

Now, however, there are signs that some Republicans are joining forces with some Democrats in opposing the war.

So far, they are short of critical mass.

In a series of votes in the House on July 1, a measure to provide funds only for a withdrawal won 100 votes. A measure to create a timetable for withdrawal drew 162 votes of support.

And on Tuesday, 102 Democrats joined a dozen Republicans to oppose Obama's war supplemental in its entirety, resulting in a 308-114 vote.

With polls showing a distinct drop in support for the war, and opposition growing in Congress, Obama's options may soon become more limited.

"I think the political pressures back here are going to push the Obama administration into something more rapid than that 2014 implies," said Pillar.

WATCH Obama questions Condoleezza Rice about the Iraq benchmarks in 2003:


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The ever-accumulating case against the war in Afghanistan was bolstered this week by WikiLeaks's dissemination of over 70,000 previously secret reports documenting in vivid and unvarnished detail the ...
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12:00 PM on 08/07/2010
The addition of the video clip was brilliant ... Obama was right then, and he's wrong now. On the other hand, he was right from a political perspective then, and he's screwed from a political perspective now. Aye, and therein lies the rub. It would be so wonderful if we could have a leader for a change, instead of a politician.
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WryAwry
Hating haters since '55
09:19 AM on 08/02/2010
Anyone, at any level, that would continue to support the debacle in Berserkistan, in any way, shape, or form. should have their traitorous agenda exposed.

There is no victory. There will never be victory.

We, the United States of America, are LOSING.

We sacrifice the greatest fighting forces in the world in a maelstrom of Command ineptitude.

For the sake of our country and our troops, prove me wrong!
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kenhamlett
11:46 PM on 08/01/2010
In 2008, Democrats had a choice between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. During the tenure of President Bill Clinton, the world was confronted with a dictatorial thug, who was terrorizing his people through the process of ethnic cleansing. The Clinton team united an international coalition which brought about his downfall and ended the terror. Rather than execute him in a US-backed trial, they turned him over to the International Court and returned home. To my knowledge, not a single US soldier died, and the mission was accomplished. During the Bush years, we started two seemingly endless wars. Then, came the critical choice. Obama was the "peace" candidate and Hillary Clinton ran on experience. Claiming that he was a person of good judgment, President Obama prevailed. Gee, do you think we should pause here for a "Teaching Moment." Why not? The peace candidate has continued the Bush policies and retained his Secretary of Defense. Do you really think SOS Clinton would have done the same? It's time to start holding the President responsible for his actions, and it is time to acknowledge that we were had!
12:17 AM on 08/02/2010
Agreed, fanned, and I hope Hillary makes a run against O in 2012. Obama will deservedly be a one-term president. We were fools to reelect Bush II, let's hope we don't make the same foolish mistake by re-electing Obama.
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01:55 AM on 08/02/2010
Bill Clinton promised a new health care finance system. Hillary Clinton was responsible for getting that done. Obama made the same promise and working closely with Congress got a bill passed through the House in about the same time it took Hillary to finish drafting her proposal. The Clinton health care plan never made it to the floor of either house. The Obama plan, although weakened by the New Democratic Coalition (of which Hillary Clinton was a member while in the Senate), became law in less than a year. That alone is enough reason to reelect Obama.
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02:24 AM on 08/02/2010
Obama's other major accomplishments include the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (the stimulus). Obama became President just four months after the economic meltdown of September 2009. It took him only 28 days to get this major legislation enacted. Franklin Roosevelt became President forty months after the economic meltdown of October 1929. It took him 82 days to get the National Recovery Act, the equivalent stimulus package, enacted.

The Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act is also law. It is not perfect, but it is good. The principal authors, Barney Frank and Chis Dodd, are liberals not "New Democrats" like the Clintons, Blanche Lincoln, Harold Ford, Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman.

It is doubtful that without the extremely skillful leadership of the President we would have any health care reform, stimulus package, or financial industry reform. True he hasn't gotten DOMA repealed yet, but Bill Clinton signed it into law.
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01:18 AM on 08/02/2010
Hillary Clinton had plenty of opportunity to talk about a time line for withdrawal from Iraq during the campaign. She did not. Obama said he would withdraw all the combat forces from Iraq in 16 months. The military is on schedule to complete that withdrawal this month, 19 months after Obama took office and 18 months after the military prepared the withdrawal plan. Some people may have engaged in wishful thinking and thought Obama was a "peace" candidate, because unlike Hillary Clinton who voted to authorize the invasion of Iraq, Obama, at the time a state senator, publicly opposed the authorization. Even back then and throughout the campaign Barack Obama was very clear that he was against the war in Iraq because it was the "wrong war", that it diverted our military from the war in Afghanistan.

Obama promised to escalate by sending an additional two or three combat brigades to Afghanistan. That he found two or three combat brigades insufficient should surprise no one. Hillary's position was quite similar, but less specific. Her campaign published her plan for Afghanistan on March 6, 2008, saying "As President, she will be prepared to send additional American troops to Afghanistan as part of a stronger, larger NATO effort. She will consult the field commanders and our Allies in deciding how many troops are required." It is doubtful she would have had greater success attracting a "stronger, larger NATO effort" as President than she has had as Secretary of State.
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porsche996
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08:26 PM on 08/01/2010
Far......far beyond 2014 Mr. Froomkin.........The truth is that in the Geo political consequences of the American error at invading Afghanistan....the USA can NEVER leave Afghanistan. Full stop.

Never.
02:59 AM on 08/02/2010
Oh, and why is that pray tell?
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
11:34 AM on 08/02/2010
Why? As I stated in an earlier post:

"65 Years ago - following victory in WWII - the United States established bases in Germany, Italy, Turkey, Japan and elsewhere around the planet. Again, following the Korean conflict we established and today maintain bases with 50,000 troops. Again, following the first gulf war, bases were establihed and are maintained in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. Today we maintain over 1000 bases around the globe with over 1,000,000 servicemen/women and over 1,000,000 privately contracted support personnel to staff them.

In relation to Afghan benchmarks Dan Froomkin states, "Some are naïve, delusional, unmeasurable and meaningless all at once."

It is naive and delusional NOT to see the measurable and meaningful path of the United States Government to expand the United States Empire and rule the world.

This is the true goal of the Neocons

This is the goal Obama has adopted as his own

This is the goal that will ensure the demise of the United States of America "
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01:57 PM on 08/01/2010
Four more years of Obama will be a disaster!
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68Namvet
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06:10 PM on 08/01/2010
Yep - and the only thing worse would be four more years of republicn rule
RTIII
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01:22 PM on 08/01/2010
Maybe we have to find a true progressive president. I choose Kucinich if he'll try again. Allen Greyson is another fine choice.

...Even if a progressive didn't win the primary but was a primary contender to the last, like Clinton, but actually PROGRESSIVE, it may be enough to move things leftward...

We MUST do better this next election cycle.
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Whinger
I'm Just Me!
01:08 PM on 08/01/2010
No 2012 pull out, then the USA will be there forever, culture clash war!
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AZreb
equal-opportunity Independent heathen
09:12 AM on 08/01/2010
The Dutch have pulled their troops from Afghanistan - Canada is next in 2011, then Poland in 2012, then the U.K. in 2014 or 2015 (if not sooner). Reminds me of an old childhood song that ends "The cheese stands alone".

We have become a country of endless wars. Sad but true.
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Dangerous Dan
Because I can!
12:41 AM on 08/01/2010
Someone asked me what I meant by passive leadership.

Passive leadership is accepting watered down legislation,
and legislation that FAVORS the intitutions it is meant to control,

For the sake of claiming passage of a bill, based on its title.
A legasy check mark beside an agenda item.

True leadership would veto the crap passed by Congress, and would send it back for immediate revision.

That is true leadership.

Someone missed that boat.
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RonRutherford
11:40 PM on 07/31/2010
Four more is an under-statement and we all know it. Not to mention the inevitable invasion or at least tactical strikes on Iran... Heck, if Bill Kristol had his way we'd be at war with Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Venezuela, North Korea, and probably even Syria and Pakistan! I had real hopes Obama would be a dove and not a hawk, but his speech at AIPAC before the election removed any "hope" of that in my mind. Will we ever get a President that is truly anti-war, or has the military industrial complex Eisenhower warned us about too powerful?

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11:35 PM on 07/31/2010
Always like to check in when they throw a new ball into the seal tank... Everyone becomes a military expert and foreign affairs problem solvers. You know what I think, all these posts are pretty dead on. The problem is Owhats his name and the other "I see nothings" blew this one badly. Just know this, and it's very simple. The target was and will remain Iran till that little vision seer is removed. All the trouble in that area is a result of that nut run country. Every other middle east and south west Asian country is longing for the end of Persian threats. All knucklehead had to do was follow the script on Iran that was right on cue nicely at the election not to long ago. Lives could have been saved. But Mr. wonderful et all, were trying so hard to not look like Bush that they blew their lines, probably purposely, and did not support the Iranian people when they predictively became fed up with their corrupt political and religious leaders. Iranians are still straining to show their pro western attitudes and do not want a conflict with either NATO or Israel. Now we need a whole new script, dealing with a kook with a nuke.
09:11 PM on 07/31/2010
Two days of continuous congressional hearings on the Obama administration’s foreign policy brought a rare concession from US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton who acknowledged that the United States too had a share in creating the problem that plagues Pakistan today.

“But the problems we face now to some extent we have to take responsibility for, having contributed to it. We also have a history of kind of moving in and out of Pakistan,” she said.

“Let’s remember here… the people we are fighting today we funded them twenty years ago… and we did it because we were locked in a struggle with the Soviet Union.

“They invaded Afghanistan… and we did not want to see them control Central Asia and it was President Reagan who said let’s deal with the ISI and the Pakistan military and let’s go recruit these mujahideen.

“And great, let them come from Saudi Arabia or elsewhere importing Wahabi brand of Islam so to push back Soviet Union, whichled to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

So we then left Pakistan … We said okay fine you deal with the Stingers that we left all over your country… you deal with the mines that are along the border and… by the way we don’t want to have anything to do with you… in fact we’re sanctioning you… So we stopped dealing with the Pakistani military and with ISI and we now are making up for a lot of lost time.”
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khanti
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07:54 PM on 07/31/2010
4 more years? You're wrong there is one looming in the Korean, another one with Iran, another one with China, another one........
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khanti
Cultivator
10:12 PM on 07/31/2010
68namvet I read yopur reply, somehow it has gone to the censors.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
07:51 PM on 07/31/2010
65 Years ago - following victory in WWII - the United States established bases in Germany, Italy, Turkey, Japan and elsewhere around the planet. Again, following the Korean conflict we established and today maintain bases with 50,000 troops. Again, following the first gulf war, bases were establihed and are maintained in Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc. Today we maintain over 1000 bases around the globe with over 1,000,000 servicemen/women and over 1,000,000 privately contracted support personnel to staff them.

In relation to Afghan benchmarks Dan Froomkin states, "Some are naïve, delusional, unmeasurable and meaningless all at once."

It is naive and delusional NOT to see the measurable and meaningful path of the United States Government to expand the United States Empire and rule the world.

This is the true goal of the Neocons

This is the goal Obama has adopted as his own

This is the goal that will ensure the demise of the United States of America
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TeaLady005
06:33 PM on 07/31/2010
Mr. Obama has not told the country why we are in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mr. Obama has not told the military what the "mission" is.

Mr. Obama has not told ANYONE what he would consider to be "victory" in Iraq or Afghanistan.