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Geithner: America Is Less Equal Today Partly Due To Bush Tax Cuts

First Posted: 08/04/10 07:09 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:15 PM ET

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The country is less equal today than it was just a decade ago thanks in part to the Bush tax cuts, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Wednesday.

"[T]he policies put in place by the previous administration, prior to this great recession, have left us with a terrible legacy of challenges," Geithner said during a discussion on fiscal policy at the Washington-based Center for American Progress. "And America is a less equal country today than it was ten years ago, in part because of the tax cuts for the top 2 percent put in place in 2001 and 2003."

The Bush tax cuts, credited with job creation during the George W. Bush administration, are now credited with expanding the nation's ever-increasing national debt. More jobs have been destroyed than the tax cuts could ever claim to have created, and with the economy in a moderate recovery the tax cuts have become less an economic issue than a political one: Most Republicans, hoping to push their supply-side theories, want to extend them in hopes that the rich will spend, invest and create jobs in the process; Democrats, in an attempt to appeal to deficit-conscious voters, want them to expire so that the increased government revenue can be used to pay down the national debt.

Economists and policymakers, while not discounting the positive effects that continued tax cuts can have on the economy, have stressed that the best course would be to allow the cuts to expire. Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, a noted libertarian who was not opposed to the tax cuts when proposed during his tenure, has advocated that they should be allowed to expire.

The administration, too, is advocating their demise. And on Wednesday, Geithner laid out an argument touching not just on the fiscal and economic benefits -- he touched on the fairness of it all, too.

"The most affluent 400 earners in 2007 -- who earned an average of more than $340 million dollars each that year -- paid only 17 percent of their income in tax, a lower rate than many middle class families," he said. "The legacy of the crisis is millions of unemployed Americans, idled factories, a national debt swollen by eight years of deficit spending and growing income inequality.

"We live in one of the richest economies in the world," the Treasury Secretary continued. "But one in eight Americans is on food stamps today."

Macroeconomic Advisers, an economic consultancy led by former Fed governor Laurence H. Meyer, estimated this week that allowing only those Bush tax cuts for the richest Americans to expire would trim about 0.2 percent from growth over 2011 and 2012.

But while the group warns against letting all of the tax cuts expire, the demise of those benefiting the rich -- though likely to result in a nominal hit to growth -- would be worth it, the group said.

"[G]iven the still tentative recovery... we believe that the consideration of such large tax increases should be delayed until the economy is growing more strongly," the consultancy said in its report. "An intermediate, and safer, near-term strategy is to let expire in 2011 just those provisions affecting high-income individuals while extending the other provisions until they can be considered in the context of a healthier economy."

Geithner argued Wednesday that extending the cuts for the rich "would hurt economic recovery by undermining confidence that we are prepared to make a commitment today to bring down our future deficits.

"Fiscal discipline requires hard choices and we must be prepared to make them," he said. "[T]here is no credible argument to be made that the purpose of government is to borrow from future generations of Americans to finance an extension of tax cuts for the top 2 percent."

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The country is less equal today than it was just a decade ago thanks in part to the Bush tax cuts, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Wednesday. "[T]he policies put in place by the previous a...
The country is less equal today than it was just a decade ago thanks in part to the Bush tax cuts, Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Wednesday. "[T]he policies put in place by the previous a...
 
 
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PharmaCan 09:56 PM on 08/04/2010
Bill Gates got extremely wealthy because he was an innovator.In that sense, he deserved to be rewarded with wealth.

Those people who are getting rich today aren't innovating anything. They either game the financial system, rape the land and the people of natural resources or profit from the labor of people they pay low wages to employ. In that sense, they ill deserve their wealth.

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11:52 PM on 08/06/2010
Who ever said this country had to be equal?
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MicheleMoore-Happy1
Whistleblower and creator of the Happiness Habit
03:59 PM on 08/06/2010
Doesn't this make you angry, a 17% income tax rate for the very rich, much less than most of us and most middle class families pay.

This has gone on for the past 10 years, where is the mainstream media coverage? Where's the outrage over the squandered budget surpluses the Clinton Administration left to Bush & Friends?

http://www.michelemoore-happy1.com/2010/08/17-income-tax-rate-for-the-very-rich.html
02:06 PM on 08/06/2010
Let's see 17% of $340M is $57.8M. Seems like a pretty steep tax bill to me! Why do liberals always focus on the percent and not the amount? These 400 people pay what amounts to a king's ransom every year, and it still isn't enough. Tell me this: what has the average American citizen done to earn this money?

The fact of the matter is that this level of taxation is inherently unfair, but is required to support government spending run amok. Progressive taxation is unfair. Disagree? How would you like to have to pay for a BigMac based on your income? Is you are in the lower half of wage earners you can eat for free. The next 25% must pay$50 on average, and the top 1% pay $20k - even if they never eat there. Democracy or Theftocracy?
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Mikel Moore
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03:11 PM on 08/06/2010
Per capita taxes in the United States are tied for dead last at #168 with China.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/tax_tax_pay_num_percap-tax-payments-number-per-capita
11:55 AM on 08/06/2010
UNSPEAKABLE PROPAGANDA

It was clear from the beginning that the Bush tax cuts for the very rich were an economic crime against the middle class, the poor and America in general, but this crime was encouraged by the corporate-controlled media such as CNN, Fox etc.

Unpatriotic outfits out to suicide America for the appetites and irresponsibility, childisness of a pampered and cruel class, with its unspeakable shills...
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11:22 AM on 08/06/2010
The wealthy 1% understand that the people must be subdued and controlled. In order to keep getting more, they have to take care of the only power that can control them, "We the People" our government.

They have been successful at this, won the mayor battles. They have completely changed our way of life. The US is no longer a "first World" nation economically speaking, we are fast approaching "second" or "third world" status.

The GOP has accomplished this because the Dems have left the field open, they have allowed them to frame the issues. The GOP has no scruples, they know that the american people would never accept their true agenda, so they use the worst human emotions; fear, racism, bigotry, pseudo-patriotism to gain control.

Now the end game is evident and they believe that they are on the cusp of their new world order:

They have decimated and weakened the middle class in the US.

Through globalization the US laborer must now compete with an exploited worker in China or anywhere.

They have almost destroyed the US treasury with their massive tax cuts for the wealthy and their deficit spending on wars and corporate welfare.

Through privatization they have gained corporate control of utilities and diverse governmental functions like defense and security.

We need true leaders that are not afraid of the right, who will stand up for the people and who will put this country at work for all Americans not just the richest 1%
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JonB2057
Think, it ain't illegal yet!
02:46 PM on 08/06/2010
@BoshSpong

Wow! Now this is what the masses need to be reading/hearing about! Fanned.
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Grimway
10:40 AM on 08/06/2010
You gotta like a guy who spits in your face and calls it rain!
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pjwrites
10:26 AM on 08/06/2010
The only thing the rich care about is getting richer. Taxes are for the little people.
09:43 AM on 08/06/2010
Boring debate that goes no where, round and round, left to right and back. Implement a Fair Tax/Flat Tax...simplify!
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10:07 AM on 08/06/2010
A flat tax (assuming a relatively low one) would be inherently regressive, reduce aggregate revenues, and further constrain the government's fiscal flexibility.

It is an untenable proposition.
09:41 AM on 08/06/2010
America is less equal today in part because of Reagonomics, in part because of Bush tax cuts, and in part because Geithner and his cronies robbed us blind with impunity and are still doing it!
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
05:32 PM on 08/05/2010
Tax the rich, or we'll have to eat them.
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05:20 PM on 08/05/2010
I am an agreement with the general argument that allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire would assist in medium-long term deficit reduction, as well as help faciliate government efforts to curtail the expansion of the public debt.

I would also add that addition policy reforms are needed: Over the past three decades the number of federal income tax brackets has declined, often with declining rates within the tax brackets.

Some of the most significant results of this relatively imbalanced revenue policy is that contrary to expanding aggregate revenues (via the expansion of taxable income due to enhanced economic growth that a lower tax rate implies), government revenue relative to GDP have stagnated around 30% of GDP, and actually declined during certain periods in the 1990s/2000s. Eveb more significantly the tax system has become more regressive, with the relative purchasing power to top earners expanded, while lower earners have seen little to no improvement (in fact in some cases, the current status-quo is very clearly regressive in its effect on after-tax income, as well as purchasing power).

Serious reform is needed - in the long run, coupled with the expiration of the Bush tax cuts, rate hikes on top earners (including assets, capital gains etc), as well as the creation of new tax brackets for high earners (For example: Why is someone who earns 350,000 taxed the same as someone who earns 5 million?) will help rebalance the situation. The government's approach should be gradual.
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11:35 AM on 08/06/2010
Gradual but strong and firm, framed within the desires of the majority and done in a way that folks understand what is going on.

Dems have allowed the extreme right to develop and spread the gospel of "bad government", they have abdicated their role and instead of coming on strong from a place of moral and just principles they allow the right to frame and define.

Its pathetically clear what the right did with the "railroading" of Shirley Sherrod - only because they have gotten away with it so many times before, they are becoming careless and brutal. But they have not been "exposed" by the Dems, the Dems just roll over every time. What they did with Sherrod they have done to the middle class and with the strong support of the very people that they are hurting.

People react to emotion, not logic - otherwise they'd be no smokers. Dems need to frame the issues and set the agenda - we need strong vocal leaders who have the "cojones" to lead with confidence and strength - Quit rolling over and behaving like the GOP's bit*ches.
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02:23 PM on 08/05/2010
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“As long as an economic system provides an acceptable degree of security, growing material wealth and opportunity for further increase for the next generation, the average American does not ask who is running things or what goals are being pursued.â€

In the above quote lay the seeds of change...as our quality of life continues to decrease due to the MIC and corrupt politicians/fascists, the average American will wake up and demand justice...or not...if we wait any longer we will be slaves.
02:21 PM on 08/05/2010
Break out of the cycle. The establishment holds a vision that is no longer shared by a vast majority in this country or worldwide.....

www.audymm.comww.audymm.
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american2008
01:54 PM on 08/05/2010
This is so frustrating, my Company just awarded their top executives hundreds of thousands of shares of stock options and cash payments for the second time this year. They did this while they mandated furloughs and pay cuts to everyone else. You have people that are way overpaid already getting rewarded for doing an average job or lower, stock price is down 20% in a year etc. People who were making a million + per year need an add'l 500K? This while thousands of employees have taken such big hits and are barely hanging on? You have Board of Directors (CEO's of Corps. themselves) giving away millions to their brothers and sisters at the top.
When will Americans get to the point when we say ENOUGH ALREADY! The past 30 years the middle class has made ZERO progress in real dollars. The top 5% have increased their wealth over 350%, how the HEK can an economy improve this way?
01:36 PM on 08/05/2010
It seems to me that whether the Bush tax cuts ought to be extended has almost become political sport. The Left wants to end the tax cuts, seemingly to punish those who have been most successful in our society, but perhaps for budget reasons, and the Right believes that extending the tax cuts will be a positive for the economy. However, whether the tax cuts are extended or not, our Federal Government will continue to run a huge annual budget deficit, thus adding to our national debt. The national debt now exceeds $13 Trillion. It seems to me that there needs to be a much greater focus on the spending side of the equation. In my opinion, our President and Congress, past and present and both Democrat and Republican, together have done a terrible job serving as stewards of our tax dollars. The bottom line is that our government must focus not only on the taxation side of the equation, but also on the spending side if we ever hope to deal with our deficit problem.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
05:00 PM on 08/05/2010
Define "successful".

Using means to hurt others in an attempt to personally excel is about as unethical, if not immoral, as they come. Real successful people don't engage in tactics that utter LOSERS would use.
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bbrecht
"pray for the dead, fight like hell for the liv
05:24 PM on 08/05/2010
Okay-- cut the department of defense-- that's where 50% of our tax dollars go.

That still won't be enough though-- this is no time for tax cuts. The wealthy are rewarded every day by the privilege of living in this country-- the past 30 years has been very good to them. They do not need a tax break, they need to buck up like the rest of us and make some sacrifices for this country. Being rich is no sacrifice.