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Ruth Bader Ginsburg Considers Elena Kagan's Likely Confirmation An 'Exhilarating' Development

MARK SHERMAN   08/ 4/10 08:25 AM ET   AP

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Justice Ginsburg told The Associated Press on Tuesday that she plans to remain on the court for the foreseeable future and still wants to match Justice Louis Brandeis, who retired at age 82.

WASHINGTON — For Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the prospect of three women on the Supreme Court is exhilarating, and she intends to stay around and enjoy it.

After the death of her husband and her own treatment for cancer, there was speculation that the 77-year-old justice would step down. But she told The Associated Press on Tuesday that she plans to remain on the court for the foreseeable future and still wants to match Justice Louis Brandeis, who retired at age 82.

Ginsburg talked with the AP in her wood-paneled office at the court as the Senate began debate on the all-but-assured confirmation of high court nominee Elena Kagan, chosen by President Barack Obama to replace John Paul Stevens. Last year, Justice Sonia Sotomayor joined the court after David Souter retired.

With Kagan's confirmation, there would be three women serving together on the Supreme Court for the first time. "To me, it's one of the most exhilarating developments," Ginsburg said.

She said the "all-consuming, constantly challenging" work at the court helped her cope with the death of her husband, Martin, from cancer in June. They had been married 56 years.

She had two opinions to write in June and constant trips between the court, her home and the hospital. "I had no time to dwell on the loss that I knew was going to be sooner rather than later," she said.

Her children persuaded her to show up in court the day after her husband's death to read one of those opinions in a closely divided case because he would have wanted her there. "I knew he would," Ginsburg said.

She keeps a large photograph of the man everybody knew as Marty on her bookcase. The folded American flag from his burial at Arlington National Cemetery rests on the window sill.

Ginsburg appeared to be in good health and good spirits, even with the strain of her husband's death and a diagnosis of pancreatic cancer in 2009. She underwent surgery and chemotherapy for the cancer and was hospitalized on two other occasions last year but is maintaining an active travel schedule that is taking her across the country at least twice this summer.

There has been persistent speculation that Ginsburg could retire next year and give Obama his third vacancy to fill in as many years.

Next year probably would be Obama's last chance to get a Supreme Court nominee through the Senate before the 2012 presidential election. There hasn't been an election-year Supreme Court retirement in more than 40 years because, among other things, the opposition party in the Senate is inclined to wait for election results in the hope that it will capture the White House.

Ginsburg sought to tamp down the speculation in a lighthearted manner.

She mentioned a painting that usually hangs in her office by the German emigre artist Josef Albers. The painting is part of a traveling exhibition and is supposed to be returned in 2012.

"If anyone asks how long I'll be here, at least until my Albers comes back," she said.

Ginsburg also spoke often of Sandra Day O'Connor, who stepped down from the court in 2006 after 25 years. O'Connor's retirement briefly left Ginsburg as the only woman justice and she made clear she didn't like it. Now two women have been nominated to the court in the past two years.

Ginsburg pointed out that she also is the oldest justice, with the retirement of the 90-year-old Stevens. Next in line is her close friend and ideological opposite, 74-year-old Antonin Scalia.

Ginsburg observed that she placed her desk in her recently renovated office the same way Scalia did in his.

But the similarities end there, Ginsburg said, gesturing at the many paintings that hang on the walls. "He would not put up any of my art, and I wouldn't put up with his elk or whatever it is," she said of the hunting trophies Scalia displays.

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WASHINGTON — For Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, the prospect of three women on the Supreme Court is exhilarating, and she intends to stay around and enjoy it. After the death of her husband and h...
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ckfan
Conduct business honestly; spend money wisely
07:22 PM on 08/09/2010
I like Ginsburg, but she needs to retire in 2011 or 2012 - before the 2012 election. In that case, so does Scalia and his sidekick Thomas.
01:15 PM on 08/05/2010
Ginsburg and other Supreme Court Justices should honor a system of term years on the bench instead of lifetime positions. The mind is often neglegent in moving forward as their committment to a mind set often blocks rational and critical thinking as society moves forward isn't a plus to any court system. Two terms and they are gone........
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Craig Rhodes
11:43 AM on 08/05/2010
There should be more than 9 Supreme Court justices. At present the court is not representative of the U.S. population at large. There is nothing in the Constitution that prohibits more than 9.
01:08 PM on 08/05/2010
FDR tried that...didn't work out so well.
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demsrsilly
Proud to be non union
07:41 AM on 08/05/2010
I disagree with Justice Ginsburg on many subjects, kelo v. new london comes to mind. But unlike the libs, I would never call her the horrible names and show the disrespect that the left shows to the other justices on the Court.
08:42 AM on 08/05/2010
Stupid remarck!
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demsrsilly
Proud to be non union
09:18 AM on 08/05/2010
Why?
06:55 AM on 08/05/2010
Did you catch Ginsberg sleeping during the last State of the Union? And the other stuffed shirts didn't nudge her and wake her up? What a disgrace. That one fool is shaking his noggin muttering, "No, No" during Obama's speech. The SCOTUS....what a joke.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
09:19 AM on 08/05/2010
Was that Machine-Gun Alito ? What a dunce, the shame of New Jersey, we apolize to the rest of the nation ....
01:20 PM on 08/05/2010
The entire Supreme Court should have walked out on Obama! No repect taking these judges behind the barn scolding them publically. Ginsburg needs to leave politely as she's already had many years of feeling comfy when her judegements aven't been the best for society
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BoyInBOYCOTT
09:49 PM on 08/04/2010
sing out Justice Ginsburg
Aretha Franklin & Annie Lennox - Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pu0Fn1oRN4

three women is good, five women are BETTER
06:50 PM on 08/04/2010
Obama is too smart for the GOP....He is waiting for a conservative to nod off on the court before he appoints his Cornell West, or another African American nominee......Then if the GOP goes after him/her, they will solidify their racist label. Put a fork in them.
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demsrsilly
Proud to be non union
07:36 AM on 08/05/2010
Ah I see, so no matter what this African American's nominees positions or past is, ANY criticism of this nominee would be "racist". Well at least you are honest that you will play the race card.
So the ONLY thing that matters will be the color of the nominee's skin? That is "racist" in and of itself.
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07:27 PM on 08/06/2010
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. . . There is anohter interpretation to LouStool's remarks. I think Lou is convinced that a great many conservatives _are_ pure racists and that putting a black person on the court will bring out that racism. Frankly, the court is not well balanced, color wise, and and there must be plenty of AA folks who could serve admirably. If Obama were to choose one, these conservatives will show their true colors...

It is a rational argument and not necessarily racist on its face.
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04:58 PM on 08/04/2010
I won't be satisfied until we have 5 women on the Court.

I just wish that Obama's first two nominees had been much more liberal because it is unlikely that he will ever again have a 60-vote majority in the Senate. Even after Bush's ideological picks, Obama went for moderates. Will Democratic Presidents never learn?
05:14 PM on 08/04/2010
Obama is moderate. If you wanted liberal picks, you should have voted for a liberal. Not that we had the choice in the general election. God can you imagine Vice President Palin? I shudder to think.
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KarenInCheyenne
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12:10 PM on 08/05/2010
I CAN'T think about that. I'd tear my eyes out, stab myself through the ear with a knitting needle while having a severe siezure, followed by a massive coronary. Then I'd consider myself fortunate to be dead and not having to suffer through her term.
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07:30 PM on 08/06/2010
A president Kucinich, on the other hand, would be FANTASTIC!
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07:29 PM on 08/06/2010
Sexist much?

Anyway, you were delusional; Obama never was liberal, much less progressive. Heck, he's to the RIGHT of Richard M. Nixon!
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04:20 PM on 08/04/2010
Seems like there should be an age limit for the SC. Face it at these extreme ages you aren't firing on all cylinders. Maybe get a few more cases heard.
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oldgraymare
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05:39 PM on 08/04/2010
Not true as a generalization. Many "extreme" aged people operate on full power....it all depends on the individual. Don't categorize all of us "graysters" that way.
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11:29 AM on 08/05/2010
I agree with you.
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KarenInCheyenne
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12:12 PM on 08/05/2010
Yup. Many "oldsters" are a H3LL of alot more functioning than people half their age (and even LESS).
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07:31 PM on 08/06/2010
You are an ageist - a type of bigot. You should at least see yourself for what you are. I hope you can change.
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Texas4Obama
Obama 2012
03:39 PM on 08/04/2010
I am hoping that one (or two) of the republican appointed justice's seat/s will be vacated soon and then Obama can pick even one (or two) more female/s justice!
Four female justices on the court at the same time will get us even closer to the number needed to represent our gender and FIVE would be really HISTORIC!
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Texas4Obama
Obama 2012
03:44 PM on 08/04/2010
Actually as much as I would like to see the next two justices picked to be females.... I am rooting for HAROLD KOH to be the next appointment considering who's on the current list of possible candidates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_Supreme_Court_candidates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Koh
03:31 PM on 08/04/2010
It was nice to read a bit about Justice Ginsburg's personal life. I appreciate the collegial relationship she has with Justice Scalia. Frankly, I find it amazing; yet it's also heartening, that two people with such disparate points of view in our government can find friendship.
04:03 PM on 08/04/2010
I agree. Too many people on both sides, hate people with opposite views. They may not agree with a lot of things but that is no reason to hate the other person.
04:10 PM on 08/04/2010
You're right. I've always admired people who are able to suspend their personal prejudices/beliefs to work professionally and even cheerfully with their polar opposites. It's a trait I know I have not been able to consistently adopt myself.
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demsrsilly
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07:37 AM on 08/05/2010
It is very interesting.
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02:51 PM on 08/04/2010
She looks nice enough. I know very little about the court members personally though. They seemto rarely speak in public much about themselves. They don't really write autobiographies. etc.

I get a sense of Scalia because he's such a dominant forceful personality and he speaks in public, but most of them not so much

They seem though from stories to like and respect each other.
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06:20 PM on 08/04/2010
A very good place to learn more is at:
http://supremecourt.c-span.org/
C-SPAN conducted half-hour interviews with all eleven current and retired justices (I believe last year).

Justice Ginsburg is especially fascinating. She met her husband, Marty, at Cornell. He graduated in 1953 and went on to Harvard Law School, while she completed her degree in 1954, a few days before they married. Marty had been drafted and the newlyweds lived on Army bases for the next two years. Marty did the cooking. After Ruth came to the Supreme Court, Marty frequently cooked for the parties they gave for the other justices, clerks and staff. Their daughter Jane was born in 1955. In the fall of 1956, Marty resumed his education at Harvard Law and Ruth started hers. She served on the Harvard Law Review, The next year, Marty was diagnosed with testicular cancer. After his surgery and while he received radiation treatments, somehow Ruth managed to nurse him, take care of two-year old Jane, work on the Law Review, attend her second year classes and audit Marty's third year classes taking notes so she could keep him up-to-date. Marty made a complete recovery, graduated and was hired by a New York firm. Ruth transfered to Columbia for her third year, but she asked Harvard to grant her a degree. The end of the story is at:
http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlg/vol27/bader-ginsburg.pdf
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02:07 PM on 08/04/2010
chelsey's wedding?
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02:00 PM on 08/04/2010
More power to you, Justice Ginsburg. Good health and best wishes. I personally would like to see a supreme court with more women than men. At times it seems like it's a judicial "whizzing" contest to see who can aim the farthest right.
01:36 PM on 08/04/2010
I would be happy to see Justice Ginsburg retire...as long as she could take Roberts, Scalia, Alito and Uncle Tom with her.
02:02 PM on 08/04/2010
Denny Crane!

Part of me thinks that when President Obama is reelected in 2012, she and Breyer will retire close together.
01:29 PM on 08/05/2010
Obama is but a figure of obedience to those placing him in the seat wo the other government he serves. Nothing more........ BP financed his campaign for presidency along with influence of the Ford Foundation and CIA. Please let' s not wait for Obama star power to ignite another fake win.... leave sooner than the next election taking Ginsburg along with some other judges along with him.
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Remember, no matter where you go, there you are !
03:12 PM on 08/04/2010
LOLLLLLLLLLL !!!!!!