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Yelling At The 'Professional Left' Is One Of The White House's Few Joys

First Posted: 08/10/10 03:15 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:20 PM ET

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So, today, the internet is all abuzz over comments made by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, dutifully recorded for posterity by The Hill's Sam Youngman, in which Gibbs "unloads" with "anger" over the complaints of the "professional left."

Who is the "professional left," exactly? It's hard to say, really! I gather, however, that Gibbs is referring to a few liberal columnists, some influential bloggers, and a slew of political advocacy organizations.

And why is Gibbs angry with them? Well, for a host of reasons. Some members of the professional left are disappointed that after agreeing to not make a big stink about health care reform in the form of a single payer system, the White House failed to hold the line on the public option. Others are upset that the White House didn't fight harder for a financial reform package that was less deferent to the desires of big Wall Street firms that created the economic crisis. Some dislike the way the Obama administration has maintained or expanded upon many of the unitary executive powers claimed by the Bush administration, which Obama decried on the campaign trail. And there's a litany of other complaints -- for instance, when the LGBT community -- a traditional Democratic voting bloc -- won a landmark victory in the fight for same-sex marriage, the celebration was greeted by the White House with a reminder that they oppose same-sex marriage.

In these cases, the "professional left" has committed no crime other than having a factual basis for their complaint and the willingness to point this out in public. Now, there have been times when the "professional left" has lost sight over the fact that President Obama does not have magical powers that allow him to supercede Congress, the filibuster, and the idiotic political maneuvers of Senator Ben Nelson. Nevertheless, there are other members of the "professional left" -- like Matt Yglesias and Ezra Klein -- who are willing to point this out, again and again. That is largely a debate the "professional left" is having with itself, continuing to this day in the remarks of Adam Green, of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee:

When Republicans opposed the stimulus and when Joe Lieberman opposed the overwhelmingly popular public option, the president could have barnstormed across their states and demanded they support policies that their constituents wanted -- but instead he caved without a fight.

Now, why is it that the "professional left" can't just let certain things go, and be happy that they are represented in the White House by a Democrat? Well, I'd wager that the word "professional" is the key term, here. Here's just one example: During the Bush administration, Salon's Glenn Greenwald wrote constantly about the abuses of executive power that led to surveillance of U.S. citizens, the denial of habeas corpus rights, state secrets, and indefinite detentions-without-trials. If, after Obama was elected, Greenwald was to suddenly shift and say that all of that stuff is now perfectly okay because the guy doing all the power-grabbing was a "good guy" with a "white hat" and lovely Democrat blood running through his veins, people would size up Greenwald as a pathetic sell-out, and no one would ever take his arguments seriously ever again.

And lo, it comes to pass that people who have expressed opinions about their beliefs and ideals continue to hold those beliefs and ideals in high esteem. And this is, in many ways, a good thing: people who would urge accountability on their political opponents should continue to hold their nominal political allies accountable as well as a matter of consistency. Believe it or not, there was a time when the Obama administration embraced this:

In that spirit, let me end by saying I don't pretend to have all the answers to the challenges we face, and I look forward to periodic conversations with all of you in the months and years to come. I trust that you will continue to let me and other Democrats know when you believe we are screwing up. And I, in turn, will always try and show you the respect and candor one owes his friends and allies.

Now why does the White House even care about the agitations of the "professional left?" It seems weird, when you consider the fact that liberal voters -- the "amateur left," I guess -- remain pretty steadfast in their support.

But if I had to guess, I'd say that the War in Afghanistan is hard and it makes the White House feel bad. Solving the unemployment crisis is hard and it makes the White House feel bad. Fighting the intransigent Senate on a daily basis is hard and it makes the White House feel bad. And defending large Congressional majorities against the historical forces that act against them in off-year elections is hard and it makes the White House feel bad. But the one thing that's easy and consistently makes the White House feel good is to yell at liberal bloggers and columnists, so they do that, whenever they feel their swagger is in short supply.

I guess the good news is that everyone can rest easy knowing that JournoList members weren't quite the loyal, conspiratorial allies of the Obama administration that they were made out to be!


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So, today, the internet is all abuzz over comments made by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, dutifully recorded for posterity by The Hill's Sam Youngman, in which Gibbs "unloads" with "anger" ...
So, today, the internet is all abuzz over comments made by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, dutifully recorded for posterity by The Hill's Sam Youngman, in which Gibbs "unloads" with "anger" ...
 
 
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12:57 PM on 08/13/2010
The problem I see with Obama is that he talked the talk and walked the walk during the primaries and general election, but once elected he stopped walkin'. The foolish position of the Dems seeking a 60+ majority on everything instead of letting obstructionists demonstrate thier idiocy is beyond me. If fillibusters were allowed to proceed on the issues of healthcare and banking reform, the bully pulpit could have easily allowed a simple majority passage of both.

Obama is no dummy, he knew this as did our other representatives. I am forced to conclude that they are all just opportunists serving themselves first. Dean, Kucinich, Grayson, Wiener - the only non-geldings left.
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Bryan Gray
05:00 AM on 08/12/2010
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rabiddog6708
This Dog's bite is Worse Than his Bark
08:21 PM on 08/11/2010
Since Gibbs is working for a Republican President posing as a Dem, it would not be out of character for him to yell at the Left.
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chlai88
Change is the only constant
03:47 PM on 08/11/2010
All this White House vs the professional left ruckus is detracting from the main enemy, the professional right. The professional right is rubbing their hands in glee at this wrestling match between the professional middle Obama and the professional left. Let's put this in perspective. If the professional right aren't there to disrupt, the health care bill will have the public option or even single payer. If the professional right has no power to block, then the finance reforms will contain more teeth. In short, the professional right is to be blamed, not the professional middle. The professional left should be aiming its sights at containing the looming encroachment of the professional right this midterms instead of again falling into its usual habit of shooting its own in the foot.
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DiplomaticAmerican
06:32 PM on 08/11/2010
There are pots of gold at the end of rainbows.

How can you blame the right when the democrats have a solid majority and the WH? Your excusing the ineffectiveness of the House leadership. We have a solid majority in both houses and we have the WH... yet, the repubs stopped everything? Weak argument. Blame is better to give than recieve I suppose. It is what it is as we didnt hold the leadership responsible. Period.

So we just get rid of opposition and have a dictator, is that what you are saying?

Another thing, it is a sad excuse for the failure of a majority , to say " the GOP made me do it. Can they make you do anything?
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bluegigi
"When people are telling you who they are, believe
01:33 PM on 08/11/2010
Ryan Thompson - couldn't agree more. There are areas in which the President and this Administration have disappointed me (Geither, and more especially Summers, the public option, financial reform) - but I don't run away from them, I call them, I email them with my isuses and concerns. My real concern is that this President has a non-stop onslaught of criticism from the right, the left, the middle, every day, every night - it's never ending. And in doing so, it seems as though we're doing the Republicans work FOR them. I agree, President Obama and his team need to be held accountable, but let's not set ourselves or him on fire if we don't get our way. Don't know about you, but that's just the stuff of life kids....
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DiplomaticAmerican
02:40 PM on 08/11/2010
"And in doing so, it seems as though we're doing the Republicans work FOR them." This is what I have been trying to get across.

They far left has indeed been doing this for them, hence Robert Gibbs and Burton's statement. Also Rahm's.

Geither is inept . He should have been fired a long time ago, that is if he really should have been hired in the first place. he is a HUGE liability , and the quicker they do something about him , the better chance they have. But the clock is ticking.....

He needs to go. Fast. Bottom line will be economy, and he wasn't a good IMF guy ( cant understand Turbo tax? ) Was not a Good NY Fed guy, and is a worse Treasury secretary.
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Ryan Thompson
12:35 PM on 08/11/2010
My only problem with the left's criticism of the administration is that its almost suicidal. We're apparently willing prove ourselves right at the cost of all administrative sway. We'll bring down what we've created in disgust and allow the GOP to move back in and continue what Bush was doing for 8 years.

I'm all for accountability, but the response should be measured and realistic- not something that shoots us in the foot. Politics is a game- we can't 'win' (and we DO need to win) by playing entirely by our own rules because guess what- GOP doesnt play by our rules.
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DiplomaticAmerican
02:52 PM on 08/11/2010
several things. The Blame Bush needs to stop. It helped with the far left, but hurts everywhere else. People are not buying it. The first few months, ok, now, it is seen as an excuse.

People don't accept excuses. Especially in a bad economy.
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Ryan Thompson
03:02 PM on 08/11/2010
No one cares about Bush anymore, you're correct. Unfortunately the public also doesn't actually care about the technicalities of running a govt largely under siege by GOP obstructionists.
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DiplomaticAmerican
04:27 PM on 08/11/2010
Lets use healthcare. No public option. Either she is not up to the job, or she doesn't know what she is presenting. Example . Nancy Pelosi when asked about something in the healthcare bill " I guess we will all have to read the bill to find out what is in the bill". That is an odd statement . Even if someone else wrote it ( and they did ) is it not her responsibility to KNOW what's in it, so she can "sell it' by all means at her disposal ( it is a powerfull position) to her Majority?

Has she been able to pass anything as the admin wanted it? No. i don't think she even knows what's in them.

It is hard to have such a majority , and not be able to get what they want. My opinion, she is more entranced by the position, rather than being an effective stward" of the legislation. Not to mention that you haave all these members of Congress who vote based on if it will cost them their jobs or not.

She is totally wrong for the job, and much of the blame as far a legislation , falls squarely on her shoulders.

Senate a little more complicated, but basically the same situation.
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DiplomaticAmerican
02:55 PM on 08/11/2010
It would be a smart thing to not focus on what the GOP is doing, and focus on what the Democrats are doing. The alienation of the Moderate democrat , Independant , and Moms, is what is killing this party.

It is not helpful; for the base ( far left Professionals) to continue this "stupid, It's Bushes fault, Your dumb, I am educated because i went to Community college, I am smarter, I am arrogant etc ( just read these posts all over this site) it is totally alienating and fueling things like the Tea Party , but chasing away people needed for votes.

It is a bad strategy, and once again, it is why Gibbs and Burton and Rahm, with the Presidents blessing, said what he did the other day.
Your burning the people that got Obama elected. The base is important, but it is Independants and Women, who got him in. The far left professionals are driving them away in droves. Again, not an attack, but it is what is happening, .

If you are a far left professional ( really not sure what that is exactly, ) it might be a good time to back off, regroup, and think about not alienating the people needed to win
This is where the Tea Party comes from. You think it is far right loons (( there are some, but not even close to 2 % let alone a majority) it is the moderates and Independants, and especially womem .
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Ryan Thompson
03:03 PM on 08/11/2010
Even Gibbs wasn't sure what he meant- his later comment "I watch too much cable" suggested he meant cable news pundits.
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leazzel
12:43 AM on 08/12/2010
Rarr!, you sound like a Momma DemGrizzly, lol
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DiplomaticAmerican
12:32 PM on 08/11/2010
One day, and it sjould have been 6 months ago, you are going to understand that this admin is using you, always has been, and could quite frankly , give a hoot about anything you want. It will continue to distance it'self from the "influential bloggers" ( whatever and whoever they are ) and the Professional liberal.

They have a completely different agenda, they dont need you any more, nor do they care.

He is 1 term, knows it, and has always known it.

You get what you pay for, and you got him.

Enjoy the rest of his term.
02:40 PM on 08/11/2010
I will! I have so far! 2016 seems so far away now, thank heavens. I would rather have 2000 non-perfect Obama's, than 1 measly GW Bush. And I mean that in all sincerity. What former Pres. Bush DID *TO* this country is an utter debacle. We will be digging ourselves out of the MESS BUSH CREATED, for many years to come - into the next administration and beyond. He saw, or SHOULD HAVE SEEN, all of this coming and did nothing! He did nothing - except a last minute TARP for the banks. He started TWO wars, without a single idea how to pay for them. Instead of raising taxes to do so, he CUT taxes, especially for the very, very rich! His administration engineered the watering down of economic and business regulations and looked the other way when things went south. Granted, Pres. Obama has to deal with this mess NOW, and has had to make some tough choices. Some agree with them, some do not. But, at least, HE DECIDED AND ACTED. He didn't just fiddle while Rome burned. The righty press is beyond reason. The lefty press needs to take this president to task for failures, BUT - how about LITTLE MORE SPOTLIGHT ON THE SUCCESSES? After all, quoting Joni Mitchell, among others, "you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone."
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DiplomaticAmerican
06:37 PM on 08/11/2010
And Obama and his economic policy is making things better ? How? Yes Bush had Tarp, but he has had stim, regulation etc etc, and is it better? Oh no, and you haven't seen nothing yet.
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FHP
Left is right, and Right is always wrong
12:06 PM on 08/11/2010
Lucky for Gibbs he was not picking on the "professional right". They would have called him on his way home, make him pullover and fire his ass on the roadside.
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anachoret
Bake the hall in the candle of her brain
12:38 PM on 08/11/2010
Excellent observation.
11:50 AM on 08/11/2010
i have lost all faith in gibbs and the obama admin ability to see the real enemy '''''''''''''''''' FOX AND LIMBAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DiplomaticAmerican
12:33 PM on 08/11/2010
Ummm That is basically what they are doing. Firing the Professional left.

They just dropped you off without a kiss.
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DiplomaticAmerican
06:38 PM on 08/11/2010
it is Rush Limbaugh's fault this President can't get anything done? Or is it Congress?

Didn't know Rush Limbaugh was in the House... what state does he represent?
10:03 AM on 08/11/2010
Hey Gibbs, I am the left and you do have to worry because the Obama campaign talked the talk but don't seem to be walking the walk and I'm getting pissed. So while you rant and rail at the 'professional left' best keep in mind they speak for the rest of us.
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KDog76A
Radical Centrist
11:38 AM on 08/11/2010
So as a centrist independent, I have to ask, who would you vote for to punish Obama? Only one elected President has lost a primary (Franklin Pierce) 4 other VPs promoted to Pres lost a primary. Ted Kennedy challenged Carter, Carter won the primary but went on to lose reelection. Likewise Reagan challenged Ford, Ford won the primary but lost reelection.

Now if your coming around to the conclusion that Republicans are not inherently evil and that we need to change from change, then Obama should be worried. Somehow I doubt you really feel that way though. Loyal wingers seldom find common ground.
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Protocolor
空耳モード
02:09 PM on 08/11/2010
Option C: None of the above.

That is the vote made by progressives that gave Bush the election in 2000 and 2004.
That is the vote that is going to cost the Democrats seats in Congress in November.
If Obama doesn't change his attitude, that is the vote that will cost the Democrats the WH in 2012.

Do you think those big rallies for Obama in 2008 were attended by lukewarm "centrist independents"? Is "Change we can believe in" a slogan crafted for indecisive, waffling fence-sitters? Were the boots hitting the pavement to get out the vote worn by people unwilling or unable to form a vision or opinion on the direction that the country needs to take?

That frightened and ignorant band of cretins that calls itself the Tea Party, the Regressives, are the front line fighters for conservatism, as the Progressives are the ground troops for non-conservatism (can't really call it liberalism any more). You 'independents' can decide close races, but if the Regressives stay home, Republicans lose. If Progressives stay home, Democrats lose. You 'independents' only count on election day itself, and then only if the Progressives have been laying the groundwork for victory for months already.
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DiplomaticAmerican
12:36 PM on 08/11/2010
He could care less what the professional left thinks. Did you hear him condem Gibbs or Burtons remarks? Nope and you won't either. Did you See what Rahm said about the "proffessional left?

You have been dumped.

You are a one night stand to him.
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x88justy
08:37 AM on 08/11/2010
Trash talk! Proof we play in the same league, but not on the same team.
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DiplomaticAmerican
03:28 PM on 08/11/2010
No, not trash talk. your post is a good example of what I am talking about.

You know, I had a pro left lecturing me about why should feel racsism from everyone, because i am a Black American. Excuse me? Who is this person ( who was white she said later) to tell me what or where I feel is racist or racism ? She or anyone can't make me feel anything, and just because a pro tells me to, doesn't make it so. Quite the opposite.

Very bad miscalculation, but it is made many times, on many subjects.
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
08:07 AM on 08/11/2010
So, to recap: (1) The Professional Left are totally irrelevant losers who speak for absolutely nobody, and certainly nobody in Real America who matters; but (2) they're ruining everything for the White House!!! And: if you criticize the President, it's only because you're such a rabid extremist that you harbor a secret desire to eliminate the Pentagon -- that's how anti-American you are! You're such a Far Left extremist that Dennis Kucinich isn't far enough Left for you, you subversive, drug-using hippies! You're so far to the Left that you want to turn the U.S. into Canada.

As David Frum put it today: "More proof of my longtime thesis, Repub pols fear the GOP base; Dem pols hate the Dem base."

The Democrats have been concerned about a lack of enthusiasm on the part of their base headed into the midterm elections. These sorts of rabid, caricatured, Fox-News-copying attacks on the Left will undoubtedly help generate more enthusiasm -- more loud clapping -- for the Democrats. I know I'm eager to go canvass and clap for Democrats after reading Gibbs' noble, inspiring vision. If it were Gibbs' goal to be as petulant and self-pitying as possible, what could he have done differently?

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/10/gibbs/index.html

The DLC attacks the left and have done so since the clinton admin. Oh yeah! he's a founder and gave us GATT and NAFTA. I wonder where the jobs are.
08:19 AM on 08/11/2010
The Dem Party has been, for quite a time,the false flag wing of the
Crony Capitalist, Ponzi Scheming, Perpetual War Party which governs uninterrupted decade after decade as the country sinks further into the morass.
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
08:27 AM on 08/11/2010
but ooooooooohhhhhhhh, we shouldn't criticize them because they are soooooooo sensitive.
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BlueFloyd
Aldus Shrugged. The Antidote to Ayn Rand.
09:04 AM on 08/11/2010
You blew your argument (and Frum) when you quoted David Frum.
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Eris23
Justice is in indefinite detention.
11:08 AM on 08/11/2010
Nope. That's a logical fallacy on your part.
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
08:02 AM on 08/11/2010
Stimulus compromises haunt unemployment rate - The Washington Post's Ezra Klein talks with Rachel Maddow about how the dilution of the stimulus to appease Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats has led to government job losses even as the private sector added jobs.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/38601949#38601949
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DiplomaticAmerican
12:47 PM on 08/11/2010
"dilution of the stimulus to appease Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats has led to government job losses even as the private sector added jobs."

Yes, economics 101 says, you cant spend you way out of debt. It is beyong that. All measure of stimulus has failed. everyone acknowledges that.

You have 5 states that are 200 % Bankrupt. One of the first things you will see with the new congress is a law allowing states to declare bankruptcy. The President will sign it.

The State /Government/union ride is over. It is unsustainable. Demos and repubs know this.

As many companies GM ( gov owned ) for instance, they are going to bankrupt these states, to get rid of the union pension liabilities. There is no other choice, and mark my words, this President will sign it.
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EmiliaRomagna
06:07 AM on 08/11/2010
Forgive me, but with reference to Greenwald, I would take his high-minded principles a lot more seriously if he voted at all. It's one thing to live outside the US - I do, because I married an Englishman - but I still vote in EVERY election. You don't vote, you don't have a voice, and - quite frankly - your opinion matters nought. As for opinions, they are like a$$holes - everybody has one, so why do seemingly intelligent, rational adult people constantly seek the opinions of ueber-pundits in the media as a sop to what they should think? When did we lose the ability to digest facts from actual news reporting and form our own opinions? Whatever happened to critical thinking? Are we THAT insecure that we need to listen to/watch/read someone supposedly "superior" in order to know what to think? We really HAVE become intellectual peasants!

http://www.myspace.com/virginiadem
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bascombe
Send the kids off to die, bleed their country dry.
08:01 AM on 08/11/2010
so you specialize in ad hominem. thanx for playing.
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BlueFloyd
Aldus Shrugged. The Antidote to Ayn Rand.
09:07 AM on 08/11/2010
So you specialize in little quips that you think funny, but fall embarrassingly flat, and the labeling of a valid opinion ad hominem.

Thanx for taking up space.
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Dave4ObamaSinceDay1
Never sit out any election
10:36 AM on 08/11/2010
Agreed and what's worse, the opinions of the professional left seem to an accepted substitute for REAL ACTION on the part of the amateur left... But hey, we have the WH, the House and the Senate, right? Let THEM do it... Let's hold THEM accountable while we whine and complain and expect that WORDS will magically get us what WE want... We may rightly deride the the teabaggers but they have been around for only a year and a half yet they have managed to do what Progressives have failed for decades to do: get THEIR own candidates on balllots... Proof of what ACTION can really accomplish...
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KDog76A
Radical Centrist
11:44 AM on 08/11/2010
the IRONY:

Dave4ObamaSinceDay1 thinks he has failed for decades to get his own candidate on a ballot. If you were for Obama since Day 1, what do you mean you've never gotten your candidate on a ballot?
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afgail
Wise and strong.
04:12 AM on 08/11/2010
The Gibb tirade against the progressives is the next to last chapter on the invitation for progressive to stay home on election day. The absolute last straw will be if the White House doesn't appoint Elizabeth Warren to head the Financial Consumer Protection agency. Obama can disappoint his base so often before you turn them off completely. My finger is poised over the off button.
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tjconkster
Occupy the Voting Booth 2014
07:06 AM on 08/11/2010
Problem is...if we stay home the alternative paints a pretty dire picture...sure we didn't get stronger bills....but its a start...and with this senate & Ben Nelson we were lucky to get that...put repugs in power and nothing will get done.....well except what their corporate handlers tell them to push through....do we really want that? I think not...
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jcaunter
Profile: schizoid, INTJ
08:52 AM on 08/11/2010
Faved because you opened the door for me to make my point!

A vote for Democrats is a vote for Wall Street, just like a vote for any Republican is. If you want real change, vote third party. At the very least it will scare Democrats bad enough that they'll mend their ways next time around.