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DCCC Chair: Dems Will Pound GOP On Social Security, Keep Retirement Age In Place

First Posted: 08/12/10 06:00 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:20 PM ET

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Facing a historically difficult electoral landscape, Democratic leadership is planning to reconfigure its message by focusing on what the election could mean for the future of Social Security.

Top officials insist that among all the issues they've tested with voters, the one that yields the best results for the party is a pledge to protect the retirement program from privatization. And with the economy in the midst of a slow but painful recovery, health care reform still largely a mixed bag in terms of popularity, and an unpopular war in Afghanistan, Social Security has climbed to the top of the list of conversation topics out of both expediency and necessity.

"All of the information I've seen, and I've seen some of the national polling data and some in local districts as well, show that people are... extremely nervous about privatizing Social Security," said Democratic Congressional Committee Chairman Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.). "And they are worried that that's what Republicans intend to do. They tried it once... and it is a major plank in the road map that was set forth by their point person on the budget committee, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.)."

In an interview with the Huffington Post, the Maryland Democrat said he is taking his cues from the debate that Democrats successfully argued during the turn of George W. Bush's second term. "The fact is that the American people soundly rejected the Bush privatization proposal," said Van Hollen. "The events of the past 18 months underscore what kind of economic devastation would have been caused to seniors."

This week alone, Democrats are set to host 100 town halls centered on keeping Social Security intact. And they're putting together TV advertisements to air against Republican lawmakers who have supported privatization.

But in a small wrinkle to the intensified campaign, Democratic lawmakers have also suggested in various forms that the time has come for a serious discussion on raising the retirement age at which Social Security benefits will be paid out. And it hasn't been just fringe members or fiscal conservatives -- leadership figures like Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) and Majority Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) have suggested as much. Pressed about the potential for a muddled or mixed message, Van Hollen stressed the party's commitment to keeping the retirement age in place.

"The consensus position in the caucus is we can preserve the existing structure of Social Security including the retirement age," said the Maryland Democrat. "And that is where we are. Obviously, people have, whenever they talk about the issue, there are different ideas. But it was very clear from the statements that we made as the Democratic caucus on the front steps of the Capitol that we believe that we should not be changing the retirement age."

Asked specifically what he would do should the president's deficit commission report back that cuts to Social Security or modifications to the program are needed to keep it solvent, Van Hollen only said that lawmakers will cross that bridge when they get there.

The chairman's discussion of the Social Security debate to come was timed in part to coincide with the 75th anniversary of the entitle program's passage. But the renewed focus has been designed to last well beyond the ceremonial hook. On Thursday morning, the influential Democratic polling firm Democracy Corps released new findings that echoed and amplified Van Hollen's point. The firm found that 68 percent of respondents responded favorable to a message that: "The federal deficit is a big national problem but we should not make major spending cuts in Social Security or Medicare." Only 28 percent favored the idea that the federal deficit is such a national problem that we have to cut spending broadly including possible future cuts to Social Security and Medicare."

It's a finding that cuts against the grain of conventional wisdom, argued Stan Greenberg, the Democratic pollster behind the findings. But it's also a politically potent argument to make in 2010.

"When people worry about the debt, this is not necessarily an ideological posture in the sense of anti-spending," Greenberg said on a conference call Thursday morning. "What they're worried is that it has economic consequences for jobs and affects the ability to meet obligations for the government on jobs and Social Security."

With reporting by Jeremy Binckes

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Facing a historically difficult electoral landscape, Democratic leadership is planning to reconfigure its message by focusing on what the election could mean for the future of Social Security. T...
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02:32 PM on 08/13/2010
Some things just shouldn't be touched; many, many Americans have retirement targets that can't be screwed around!
05:49 PM on 08/13/2010
oh well.......they should have planned better
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02:06 PM on 08/13/2010
Raise the Cap! Raise the Cap!! Problem solved!
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Mij13
They only call it class war when we fight back.
07:37 AM on 08/14/2010
That won't be necessary.
http://pol.moveon.org/ssmyths/?id=22141-9341732-MUEQB3x&t=1
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Wallysmom
"I'm taking on stupid wherever it exists"
11:52 AM on 08/13/2010
Some neolithic Republiturd somewhere must be giving out free pancake coupons at IHOP with a complimentary tinfoil hat if you post on HP today.
02:28 PM on 08/13/2010
Now that's good humor!
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montn2
The poor man's son fights the rich man's war.
11:49 AM on 08/13/2010
RAISE THE CAP! RAISE THE CAP! RAISE THE CAP!
11:30 AM on 08/13/2010
Really DCCC? You needed to poll this to know how unpopular privatizing SS is with the electorate?
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KARASAEN
11:23 AM on 08/13/2010
Just after his inauguration, the President made it clear that he is now in charge and the economy is now his own. I shouted at the tv NO! please don't. I wanted him to make sure that it should be on the record that he inherited an economy on the verge of collapse and depression. Months before his taking office, millions of jobs were lost because of policies of the previous administration. I wish he would have pointed out that the unemployment situation is dire and may get worse, a lot worse before it gets better. However, he wanted to exude confidence that he will be able to deal with all these. Noble but looking back, it was dumb and stupid. Now it is too late to even refer to the irresponsibility of the previous administration. Republicans just smirk and say: "Here comes Bush blaming game again."
Mr. President, you cannot afford these mistakes again. Go on the offensive and seize the moment. You still have a lot of tools, political capital and a democratic congress to be able to push your agenda. The opposition is giving you all their crazy and untenable ideas that open them up to be exposed for who they are. The tax break for the rich should be an issue to paint the true color of the opposition. Stop hoping for any support from the Right.Lead boldly and fearlessly and your followers and the American people will support you to the end.
11:55 AM on 08/13/2010
Good try, my friend. Well stated, However, one phrase at th end points out the futility of what you are saying.
"Stop hoping for any support from the Right.Lead boldly and fearlessly and your followers and the American people will support you to the end"
The problem is, that Obama has lost the support of a large majority of americans. Most critically, independents. He has lost the consent of the governed.
The leftist agenda he has pushed is only supported by perhaps 25 to 30 percent of americans on most of the issues.
I actually agree that Obama inherited a dire economic problem. And Bush can be blamed, and deserves a lot of blame. But the statute of limitations is running out on that. Americans want a president that doesn't just blame the past, but looks to the future. Every month that goes by will make the blame Bush argument less tenable.
The battle we are having in this country is between a leftist, all-poerful government advocated by Obama, and a more center-right, conservative view of government favorted by the right. At this point, it is fair to say, that the people have chosen a winner, and that will soon be clearly demonstrated at the ballot box in November.
The silent majority spoken of by Nixon, is a reality.This silent, center-right conservative majority bit Clinton in 1993, and it is biting Obama even more now, because of Obama's more radical views.
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drwtsn
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12:31 PM on 08/13/2010
I'd like to know what this "leftist agenda he has pushed" is. As someone admittedly on the left, I consider him, if anything, only slightly left of center.

Maybe you consider equal pay for women to be leftist; or bringing the US healthcare system very slightly closer to the rest of the industrialized world, where they get better results at much less cost; or trying to keep the American auto industry,and economy as a whole, from going belly-up; etc.

A true leftist agenda, considering the conditions in place when he gained the Presidency, would at least include single-payer healthcare and nationalization of any failing banks.

As far as the stature of limitations on blaming Bush for his disastrous economic policies, if Bush caused the problem then he will always have caused the problem. That doesn't go away just because a year has passed. That is like saying a murderer is no longer to blame for his crime after a few years. All we can hope for is that Obama can somehow help us to recover from Bush's disaster, which isn't going to be easy as long as the Republicans fight him tooth-and-nail at every step.
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KARASAEN
12:45 PM on 08/13/2010
If ever it is true that he had lost support of some of the independents who voted for him in the last election, it does not mean that they had gone somewhere to support another party. The Republicans did not gain any more than a single percent of the independents as shown in polls. In fact republicans continuously are shrinking in influence as well as in numbers. There are no independents in the tea party, whatever your claim is. Statute of limitations on facts does not apply. The world was round 1000 years ago and still is today. Unless you are one of those that still think it is flat. Silent majority is a myth especially if spoken by an impeached president. In November, the independents will vote independently and are smart enough to chose the rational over the crazies. We will see what happens in November.
11:04 AM on 08/13/2010
Every time the Dems grope for a new "message", the message they are sending is that their legislation is sooooo bad it can't be mentioned. The results from the poorly constructed stimulus are only about 15-20% of what was intended and even more disappointing considering the $862 billion stimulus and the $500 billion TARP spent. The lies told on healthcare continue to be exposed. The preposterous cost estimates were the first to go, followed by the negative impact to Medicare benefits, the appointment of a rationing proponent, the complex bureaucratic autocratic control, loss of doctor/patient confidentiality, the unsustainable unfunded state mandates, the higher premiums, the inability to keep previous coverage, the corporate write downs for retiree coverage, the hidden IRS intrusions, etc. The 2319 page FinReg does not protect the taxpayer, leaves the most important details blank to be determined by unelected unnamed bureaucrats, adds layers of regulators, increases the responsibilities of the S.E.C. to a point beyond any possibility of competence, ignores Fannie/Freddie losses, leaves the taxpayer
on the hook for 90% of new mortgages, gives government unimaginable
control of all credit, interferes with business management through
affirmative action quotas and proxy access. It quickly becomes clear why
they want to set up a false choice over SS. They are horrified by making any reasonable adjustments to SS, but they cut $585,000,000,000 from Medicare without flinching? If honesty and common sense don't take over soon, we're
toast. Edit the bills and stop spending!!!!!
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sharin
severely liberal and proud of it
11:06 AM on 08/13/2010
man, you are just one wrongwing talking oints lie after another
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sharin
severely liberal and proud of it
11:08 AM on 08/13/2010
one GOper talking point 1ie after another
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TeaLady005
10:43 AM on 08/13/2010
Demos need to explain to the voters why they refuse to follow our Constitution.

Legislation entitled the "Enumerated Powers Act" has been introduced in this Congress, both in the House (H.R. 450) and Senate (S. 1319). The bill is a simple, one-page proposal, summed up by the following language: "Each Act of Congress shall contain a concise and definite statement of the constitutional authority relied upon for the enactment of each portion of that Act."

Simply put,,,any legislation being voted on, must refer to the section of our Constitution, which authorizes congress to be voting on it.

So you think this would be easy to pass? WRONG! It has been proposed 7 times and the Democrats still will not allow the bill to be brought to the floor for a vote! Did you really expect our polititicans to adhere to our Constitution?
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sharin
severely liberal and proud of it
10:55 AM on 08/13/2010
well, since representative shadegg (R) has been introdicing thie proposed legislation every congress since 1995 and since that time only 2 of the 9 house congresses have been Dem controlled, seems your beloved Repubs haven't been real big on the legislation either
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Wallysmom
"I'm taking on stupid wherever it exists"
11:50 AM on 08/13/2010
The reason it is not considered is because the Constitution is a framework document and what they call a living document. Not every issue in the 21st Century is addressed in a document written before the light bulb was invented. If you're Amish, that's great. There's a group of people who frame every conversation with "in our Constitution"...have you ever read it? It is the bare bones skeleton of a document that sets up a Democratic government and has had to be amended 27 times since the ink dried.
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Hank10303
Reality Check
10:39 AM on 08/13/2010
Well now here we have what should be a words battle that the Dems should win. It has long been a talking point by republicans that the democrats want to borrow and pilliage the social security trust fund.

The true fact is that the legislature first started borrowing from the social security trust fund in 1983.

Now, let me see who was President then............................. BING BING BING Ronald Regan

Republicans, who were happy to have Social Security taxes subsidize tax cuts for 25 years, have suddenly developed holier-than-thou fiscal rectitude.
http://money.cnn.com/2010/08/09/news/economy/social_security_value.fortune/index.htm

If the democrats yell the facts from the four corners of this country they will be repeated and remembered, even in the south.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
10:20 AM on 08/13/2010
Whipping republicans is easy to do.

Republicans have a record of failure for the last eighty years to run on. The ideology of deregulation has given Americans world wide economic collapse and the devastation of the Gulf of Mexico. Bush and the neo-cons lied Americans into that nonsense in Iraq. Ronny gave Americans “trickle down” economics which has made a few rich but has made America overall a much poorer country. Republicans have a long and disastrous record of failure to run on.

Whipping republicans is easy to do when Americans comprehend that the republicans are America’s problem not the solution.
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10:15 AM on 08/13/2010
Remove $106K witholding cap. Problem solved!
10:19 AM on 08/13/2010
It works for me.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
10:21 AM on 08/13/2010
Me too !
07:25 PM on 08/13/2010
> It works for me.

Seconded. Perhaps someone should propose it. All we need to do is watch "SchoolHouse Rock" to see how. :)
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sharin
severely liberal and proud of it
11:05 AM on 08/13/2010
and stop all barrowing (stealing) from the fund for other gov debts
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Andy Manor
03:22 PM on 08/13/2010
Actually the borrowing of the trust fund isn't bad because it's paid back with interest. That's considered part of our overall deficit as well.
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comicpro
Stupid Should Be Painful
10:06 AM on 08/13/2010
Both parties are awful and have self serving interests BUT the GOP are outright vicious,unamerican,pawns for the rich and corporations. At least the DEMS pretend to give a damn about average americans and are actually doing something by putting legislation on the table to help in these difficult times for many. And what does the GOP pull out of their tuckus: tax cuts for the rich,denial of unemployment benefits,denial of HC benefits,apologizing to BP...I could continue but then whats the point!
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Deborah Mathews
The good of the many outweighs the good of the few
10:02 AM on 08/13/2010
I hope that the Dems do "pound" the Cheap Lapor Conservatives regarding Social Security, their intent and position on the subject has been made crystal clear and they can not run from the what they have been recorded as saying they would like to do however that alone is not enough. There desperately needs to be a massive effort to push and push hard for a jobs program so that we can get some of the thousands of out of work Americans back to work. I believe both of these key issues should be the focus of the Democratic Party as we move forward.
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Ron333wood
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05:23 PM on 08/13/2010
True, but we need to learn from past mistakes. Obama loaned money to General Motors and Chrysler and saved their behinds. Now both of those corporations are thriving, BUT the creation of "new" jobs are being outsourced to Mexico. And I guess we should apply the same criteria when we bail out the financial institutions. Obama's choice to save American manufacturing jobs was the correct move and was very successful. But those corporations that benefit should display some "loyalty" to the taxpayers that put up the money and the creation of "new" jobs should have been made to benefit the taxpayers that saved them.
tamazul
Badges? What Badges?
09:56 AM on 08/13/2010
Putting some "anti-incest" and "anti serial-adultery" initiatives on the ballots, especially in the South ought to put the Repubs on the defensive for once.
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lackofoversight
GOP --- Greed Over People
09:56 AM on 08/13/2010
Don't let the politicians frame the Social Security debate. Some in both parties call Social Security an entitlement. It's not. You paid into it and so did your employer every time you worked for a wage.

Some in both parties say there will not be enough money in the fund without cutting payouts. But the fund would have had plenty of money if Congress hadn't been "stealing" billions from the fund over decades to pay for pet projects. Remember Gore's lock box? He promised to keep Congress' hands out of the fund. We should make Congress put the money back.

Some in both parties talk about raising the retirement age to save money. The retirement age in the US is already higher than many countries in Europe. France is raising their retirement age from 60 to 62 over the next 8 years. Even Greece, which is on hard times, will be raising their retirement age from 61 to 63 by 2015.

Don't let the politicians get away with it! ..... Keep their hands off Social Security!!