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Fannie, Freddie Reform: Treasury Department Holds All-Star Conference To Discuss Ailing Lenders

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ALAN ZIBEL   08/17/10 05:52 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The call from business for less government has a notable exception: the mortgage market.

The Obama administration invited banking executives Tuesday to offer advice on changing the government's role in backing the mortgage market. While they disagreed on the exact level of support needed, the group overwhelmingly advocated for the government to maintain a large role in the $11 trillion market.

If the government pulled out, millions of Americans wouldn't be able to convince banks to take the risk of giving them home loans, the executives said. Ending government support could lead to a spike in mortgage rates. That could deter many from buying homes, and banks, mortgage lenders and Realtors would lose money over time.

"It will take on a different form, but there is a role for government," Kevin Chavers, a managing director at Morgan Stanley, said in an interview.

Most attendees agreed the time had come to do away with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Rescuing the two mortgage giants has cost the government nearly $150 billion so far.

Bill Gross, the managing director for bond giant Pimco, suggested Fannie and Freddie should be formally merged into the government. He also called on the administration to allow millions of homeowners to automatically refinance their loans to help stimulate the economy.

A more widely held view at the conference is for the government to do away with Fannie and Freddie, and instead provide a guarantee that mortgage investors get paid even if borrowers default in droves.

Figuring out a plan for Fannie and Freddie is also a political challenge for President Barack Obama and his party. Republicans have seized on the administration's management of Fannie and Freddie to illustrate Democrats' push for growing the reach of the federal government.

While the banking industry has joined Republicans in criticizing the administration for instituting stronger regulations of Wall Street, they support the government playing a large role in the mortgage market.

"There would be a lot of homeowners who wouldn't be able to afford homes because we'd be dealing with higher interest rates." said S.A. Ibrahim, chief executive of mortgage insurer Radian Group Inc.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner pledged on Tuesday "fundamental change" to the structure of Fannie and Freddie. The mortgage giants profited tremendously during good times but burdened taxpayers with losses when the housing market went bust. He said the two companies weren't the only cause of the financial crisis, but made it worse.

Fannie and Freddie buy mortgages and package them into securities with a guarantee against default. They have ensured that millions of Americans can get home loans – even after the housing market collapsed.

The two companies, the Federal Housing Administration and the Veterans Administration together backed about 90 percent of loans made in the first half of the year, according to trade publication Inside Mortgage Finance.

Geithner did not offer a specific exit strategy for Fannie and Freddie. But he said "it is our responsibility to make sure that we create a system that is not vulnerable to these same failures happening again." The administration is expected to offer a plan next year.

One option that dominated the discussion Tuesday is for the government to collect money from the mortgage industry and set up an insurance fund that could be used to cover losses during a severe downturn.

This would prevent taxpayers from having to foot the bill for the industry.

Some want the administration to take more dramatic actions.

Gross said Fannie and Freddie's function should be consolidated into one government agency that would issue mortgage-backed securities. Without such a solid guarantee, mortgage rates would soar, he warned.

He also told the administration that the economic recovery required more government stimulus, particularly in the housing market. He suggested the administration push for the automatic refinancing of millions of home loans backed by Fannie and Freddie.

Refinancing those loans at the lowest mortgage rates in decades would give Americans more money each month. That would boost consumer spending by $50 billion to $60 billion and lift housing prices by as much as 10 percent, he said.

Without such stimulus in the next six months, Gross said, the economy will move at a "snail's pace."

Obama officials say they do not plan to enact such a program, which has been the subject of intense rumors on Wall Street in recent weeks.

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04:11 PM on 08/18/2010
Nine out of every 10 mortgages are backed by Fannie and Freddie!:

http://www.wallstmemo.com/news/2010/8/17/market-insight-the-housing-markets-bursting-bubble.html
01:03 AM on 08/18/2010
Quick fix: debt relief!!! Cancel our debts you slavemaster pigs!!!!
TeaPartyVoter
Liberal Stopper
08:59 PM on 08/17/2010
"The group overwhelmingly advocated that the government stay involved in the Trillion dollar market" ..........translation.........Obama wants the rest of us to keep paying for the irresponsible and low income people's houses.
07:45 PM on 08/17/2010
After seeing repeated comments condemning the repubs for repeal of Glass–Steagall Act, I decided to check it. Guess what, the dems were just as supportive of the action to repeal - final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90–8 (one not voting) and in the House: 362–57 (15 not voting). Also, the next time you want to throw rocks, you might want to throw a few at Bill Clinton as he signed the repeal bill.

“The bill that ultimately repealed the Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by a Republican majority, basically following party lines by a 54–44 vote in the Senate[10] and by a bi-partisan 343–86 vote in the House of Representatives.[11] After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90–8 (one not voting) and in the House: 362–57 (15 not voting). The legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.”
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act
TeaPartyVoter
Liberal Stopper
09:00 PM on 08/17/2010
Please don't show facts and truth to the Dems. They'll go running to watch Olbermann & Maddow and get some more Kool-Aid.
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11:14 PM on 08/17/2010
If Obama is a socialist, then so are comrades Bush and Paulson who gave tax payer money to bail out private financial industries. Something which Comrade Stalin would have cheered on!!
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jmyoung666
05:09 PM on 08/18/2010
I completely agree that D's have also been bought by corporate America. I don't like it when Clinton gets tarred with it as if a Republican president wouldn't have signed it as "deregulation" has been a mantra of the Republican party for 40 years, but you can certainly say he and many of the democrats in Congress were right down there with the Republicans. Deregulation began with Reagan continued through the Clinton years and W's as well. Deregulation and a lack of oversight of Wall Street is the primary reason the financial crisis is so bad.
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themodernleader
05:51 PM on 08/17/2010
Geithner unilaterally promised the mortgage holders full payment for toxic loans. That means a potentially disastrous 2 trillion dollar loss for the tax payer and a windfall for lenders.
There is no fairness, no justice no sense of proportion. There is only the bailout of monied people. We have a government that sides on every issue with the strong while leaving 90 percent of Americans to carry the burden of the bailout. I have been transferred back to the latter years of the Roman Republic with the civil, class, regional and dictatorship wars yet to start. The situation at the local level is beginning to spin apart, and civil unrest is just beginning.
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09:00 PM on 08/17/2010
Goldman Sachs Obama
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msjimmied
05:27 PM on 08/17/2010
For more information on the Bill Gross proposal, which has a great deal of merit..

http://www.cnbc.com/id/38739782
04:32 PM on 08/17/2010
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03:39 PM on 08/17/2010
Automatic refinancing seems like a positive, obvious idea.
Principal reduction should be included too.
These adjusted mortgages could be sold as far less risky investments.
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Kevin Atlanta
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02:58 PM on 08/17/2010
Let's just get the history correct here; a Republican Congress and Senate tore down Glass-steagall, Dubya's Wrecking Crew from Greenspan, Paulson, Ruben, Bernanke and Geithner failed in their FED mandated regulatory oversight and we, the people, pick up the tab for their gambling losses... Socialize their loss and Privatize their profits... Great if you're a Republican.

The Fix:
Turn Fannie & Freddie into the American Home Bank and end the FED.
Rip the primary home mortgage business out of the hands of the Greedy Oligarchs, Banksters and Wall Street's gambling parlor. They can have second homes and Commercial mortgages to play games with.
Move the Social Security Trust Fund into this American Home Bank and from individual Social Security Accounts Citizen ownership of this (Central if you must) Bank every American Citizen has skin in the game.
End the FED
And did I say "End the FED?"
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02:16 PM on 08/17/2010
From 1991 to 1998, Fannie Mae was headed by James Johnson, a longtime aide to former Democratic vice president Walter Mondale. Johnson’s successor, Franklin Raines, had served as budget director to Bill Clinton. Jamie Gorelick, vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003, served as deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration.

Gorelick had no previous training nor experience in finance.

They paid themselves impressive private-sector salaries. Johnson earned US$21-million in just his last year at Fannie Mae. Raines earned US$90-million for five years’ work at Fannie Mae. Gorelick got US$26-million.
02:01 PM on 08/17/2010
Want to know a big nasty secret. Freddy, Fannie, HUD, VA, FHA are now the owners of many, many defaulted units and on a majority of them they fail to pay the Condo/HOA assessments. This is the biggest reason banks are holding back on foreclosing they dont want to pay the fees and do the upkeep as required by the assoc. rules. We have brought this to the attention of Congress, HUD and the FED see this congressional inquiry to no where all the way back in 2004

http://stateofcommunities.blogspot.com/2007/09/now-even-hud-knows-that-there-are-big.html

While there is almost 100 American in a CIC and there is NO ONE in congress that is doing a thing to help them beyond the mere sending of a letter.
02:42 PM on 08/17/2010
Correction it was 2002 that Hud first answered questions which probably started back in Clinton's time. Btw it' s 100 Million Americans and Internationally the number is enormous.

Mike Wallace considerin doing a story on this back in 2005 we even had a producer who then died and so did 60 Sec of attention we got for this train wreak of an issue. Think about all the bailouts and none to this groups of individuals that happens to be in a non stock company that happens to be their homes/principle investment.

So what we now have is these institutions repacking these homes and selling them back into the market yet failing to tell the new owners that the unit has 3 years of back due assessments and the community is broke because the banks and FED don't pay their bill either and more often then not not giving the correct condo documents let alone telling the new owners who the assocition is and where to send fees.

So for those that think we are out of this home issues I would say not by a long shot.

BTW almost everyone of these are covered in the 51 percent if not higher requirement to have owner occupied units so every investor unit that is over this makes the community ineligible for Fannie/Freddy/Hud/FHA/VA financing. Yet! the delinquencies caused by them should have stopped the loan in the first place.

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Kevin Atlanta
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03:00 PM on 08/17/2010
Gee; I guess that model of raping home-owners is out of fashion. The real estate developer is the foundation of that "crisis" and the fools who felt the need for "homeowner's associations" so, like any business; fail away.
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01:57 PM on 08/17/2010
Big Business loves Big mommy government.
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guveqzero
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01:57 PM on 08/17/2010
Yeah, let's ask the wolves what to do for food. Competency doesn't exist at the highest levels of government. In fact, incompetence rules the day. And I don't believe it's to keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as in the art of war. Why do such poor administrators get placed into these positions? It's called plausible deniability.
01:53 PM on 08/17/2010
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01:50 PM on 08/17/2010
Guide to deconstructing the R rhetoric on Fannie / Freddie reform.

Bush and Rs were all talk and balked at the reform bill HR1461 when it was placed in front of them, yet the uninformed will overlook this basic fact and instead provide you with their sound-bite analysis of what went wrong.

HR1461 passed in House with 122 Democrats and 209 Republicans voting for it. The reform bill then got Bushwhacked by Bush himself and Senate Republicans.

Here's Bush's "sincere" statement of opposition:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=24851

The real reason, however, was Bush and Rs wanted to privatize the system. As the Financial Times reported: "Adamant that the only solution to the problems posed by Fannie and Freddie was their privatisation, the White House att.acked the bill. Mr Greenspan also weighed in, saying that the House legislation was wor.se than no bill at all."

Look up the CBO report for cost estimates of mandates/regulations that HR1461 imposed on private GSEs. Then look at their projections.
http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=6505&sequence=0&from=6

As conservative Republican head of the Finance Committee Mr Oxley said, “We missed a golden opportunity that would have avoided a lot of the problems we’re facing now, if we hadn’t had such a firm ideological position at the White House and the Treasury and the Fed.”

(feel free to cut and paste)
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cgeorgan
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01:52 PM on 08/17/2010
I don't see how privatizing FNM/FRE would *not* have averted a major portion of this crisis...
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01:56 PM on 08/17/2010
the double negative makes your reply difficult to understand, can you restate?
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There is no future without knowing the past.
02:30 PM on 08/17/2010
The regulatory regime envisioned by H.R. 1461 is considerably weaker than that which governs other large, complex financial institutions. This regime is of particular concern given that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac currently hold only about half of the capital of comparable financial institutions. In order for a financial regulator to be respected and credible, it must have the authority and ability to adjust capital requirements of the institutions it oversees as circumstances dictate to ensure prudential operations. An effective oversight regime must also provide for clear review of business activities to ensure the integrity of the housing finance system and consistency with the GSEs' housing mission.

Thats Bush's statement.

It was not tough enough.
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Kevin Atlanta
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03:04 PM on 08/17/2010
Yes from the man who moved 500 FBI inspectors from the SEC and FED and set up the Heist of History.
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03:24 PM on 08/17/2010
that's just bush/t that goes contrary to cbo report on bill