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Shirley Sherrod Interview: Fired USDA Official Describes Her Ordeal, Blames Fox News

First Posted: 08/19/10 04:29 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:25 PM ET

Shirley Sherrod

Despite being fired by the Obama administration, condemned by the media and targeted with abusive phone calls, Shirley Sherrod still believes in America and the promise of a multiracial society living in harmony.

In an interview with Huffington Post, the former Agriculture Department official described her shock at landing in the middle of a media firestorm when her misconstrued remarks from an edited video clip led millions of Americans to believe that she had once discriminated against a white farmer. She also gave her thoughts on the new job offered her by USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack, her phone call with President Obama, her refusal to appear on Fox News or to speak to Andrew Breitbart and her doubts that whites are the victims of black racism.

"I'm still looking at it -- I've asked some questions about it and I have a few more questions," Sherrod said about Vilsack's offer to promote her to the position of deputy director of the office of advocacy and outreach at the USDA, adding that she will meet with Vilsack and USDA officials on August 24. "It's [a job] dealing with discrimination in the agency, working with minority groups and so forth. I'm a little concerned that the agency has really not dealt with that issue in the way that it should have through the years."

Sherrod says that she has not been contacted by the White House since talking to President Obama on July 22. In that seven-minute conversation, she explained, "I said that there are people like me who have had experiences -- different from the ones he had -- which had a big impact on my life... I just wanted to share some of that with him. He told me that he covered a lot of what I was saying in his book [she explains that he didn't specify which of his two books he was referring to]. I guess I have to read it."

And she continues to assert that USDA Deputy Under Secretary Cheryl Cook told her that the White House asked for Sherrod's firing, despite the denials of Vilsack. "I know that she said that, she said the White House. I can only go on what she said to me."

Sherrod says she was shocked at the lack of due diligence on the part of most media outlets, especially Fox News, whose requests for an interview she has spurned. "I've had many requests from Fox but I've refused all of them," she says, adding that Geraldo Rivera and other Fox News reporters have called her several times. "I don't feel that Fox will be fair in their reporting of anything I say. They didn't reach out to me before they put it all out there. There was no attempt by Fox or Breitbart to reach out to me to at least get a statement about what they were putting out... I have a closed mind at this point with them."

Similarly, Sherrod says she has no interest in talking to Breitbart, whom she plans to sue, if she ever met him. "Breitbart made it very public that he has no intention of apologizing to me and I don't expect that. He said he was going after the NAACP but he had to know he was going after me. He was willing to destroy me for whatever reason and that's what I see."

The longtime civil rights activist -- whose father Hosie Miller, a deacon at the local Baptist Church, was shot to death by a white farmer -- says that she received several threats and abusive messages when the story first hit the airwaves. "That first night, I got lots of messages that I stopped reading them on my Blackberry issued by the government. It was too hurtful to read them and I started deleting them."

Later that night, after midnight, she picked up the phone to hear a caller angrily say, "You Shirley Sherrod? You lost your job, didn't you? Good for you!" And the next day, she says she received several calls left on her voicemail, including one from a woman in California who said hurtful things about her late father.

"My goal was trying to get the truth out and I was so focused on that that I couldn't dwell on [the phone calls and emails]. Someone tried to say I lied about my father's murder. It was like having him murdered all over again."

Though she has accepted the apology of NAACP president Ben Jealous and will appear together with him on Saturday in Alabama, Sherrod is still shocked that the landmark civil-rights organization condemned her when the story first emerged. "I was very shocked. When you look at my civil rights history, to have an organization like the NAACP condemn me, when you look at what I have done, worked more years than the age of some of them working there, it hurts. I put it at 'They're young and have a lot of growing to do.'... It was a teachable moment for them."

She says that the whole episode demonstrates the prevalence of racism. "We swept it under the rug and then we got a black president and in the minds of people, they thought we had moved beyond where we were, but it [the scandal over the edited video clip] was a wake-up call... We need to get to the point where we feel that we have worked it out because we dealt with it, to make this country and even greater country."

Sherrod dismisses recent right-wing complaints that white Americans are the victims of racism by black Americans. "I really think that that is not legitimate. I don't see that where I am and I haven't been able to see that in the country. People would like to make the majority of us believe that but I don't think people are out to get white people for things that happened in the past. The good thing about people living in this country is we do have the ability to adjust, to get it right and move on. We need to concentrate on learning how to live together."

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04:50 PM on 08/21/2010
It is time to start a Republican Apology Campaign!

They will never apologize for destroying the economy, but the message "should" ring loud and clear to the battered public. Ask them to apologize over and over and over! That is from their play-book
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lindaj3884
04:39 PM on 08/21/2010
Fox News cannot tell the truth about anything. Murdock gave $1 million to the Republican Governors Assoc so it is now totally out in the open that they are the media outlet for the Rethug party. I hope she sues the heck out of Fox as well. Some of what they purportedly "report" or opine on is nothing short of sedition.
04:05 PM on 08/21/2010
Ms. Charade shouldve been fired because of her lack of ability to discern facts from fairytales. What part of 'Fox didn't even make mention of this nonsense until after Oblahblah fired her' doesn't she understand?
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lindaj3884
04:41 PM on 08/21/2010
Because it's an out and out lie. Fox was reporting it on Hannity, morning news and O'Reilly before she was asked to resign. So tea bagger get your facts straight
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cyndeewi
Here to save the day
07:37 PM on 08/21/2010
You need to do do research. Fox News ran the clip and lied about the whole thing. I agree, they did not run the clip until it was over but they are responsible for downloading the clip and keeping the falsehood going.
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den1953
The National Inquire of Politics the GOP!
04:05 PM on 08/21/2010
So draw up the papers and take them to court make so news of your own!
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yoozum
I hate double standards.
10:44 AM on 08/21/2010
Best of luck to her. I hope she tells Vilsack that he can shove that job offer somewhere special.
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Boomer946
Time to expose the man behind the curtain
10:23 AM on 08/21/2010
While there is such as thing as Black racism and all racism is deplorable, the important thing to remember is the difference in impact when comparing historical Black racism to White racism: Black racism has a very limited reach in terms of impacting the economic, political and cultural lives of Whites. Blacks have traditionally not had the power to deny jobs to Whites on any meaningful scale. Blacks have not had the power to restrict where Whites can and cannot rent or buy real estates. Blacks have not had the power to dictate which schoolds Whites can attend. Blacks have not had the power to employ police to enforce unilateral decisions governing the day to day lives of Whites. So, when some Whites begin to complain about Black racism, to me it is red herring. It is meant to justify White racist behavior such as we see coming from Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and others of similar mindset.
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Vince Weiguang Li
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02:39 PM on 08/21/2010
Come on, the old "can't be a racist based on lack of power" tag line is old, tired, and not of redeeming value. Either you are for a color blind society or you are not, if you aren't then you too are a racist and subject to equal treatment.

To do otherwise is both intellectually and morally inconsistent.
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Boomer946
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03:29 PM on 08/22/2010
Mr. Li I never said Black racism is not real racism. However, the impact of racism is the key. We have had and will have racist attitudes for as long as there are human beings. I am not challenging folks right to think and feel however they wish. I do have a problem with those feelings when they are given power to deny a group rights and privileges they are just as entitled to as anyone. You can intellectualize all you want, but African-Americans have a 400 year history that is undeniable in it's support of the fact that racism has been and is a major factor in the United States. This is true for Blacks, American Indians, and a variety of Asians who lived here over the past few centuries.

If you really think we can live in a totally 'color blind' society then you should start selling whatever you are smoking and get filthy rich! The best we can hope for is that the vast majority of people of all races are reasonable, intelligent and willing to actively support a society that works for everyone regardless of differences. I believe there are a lot of good sincere people in the world, but it's the idiots that keep all the trouble going for their own selfish reasons. Blaming the objects of racism as being 'too sensitive' doesn't change the reality of racism.
10:18 PM on 09/25/2010
Studies show that parents who claim "colorblindness" raise kids with more inherently racist ideas, while parents who openly discuss the issues of race have children who answer more neutrally on race based assessments (the old doll test, as it were). I find the idea that we can have a colorblind society entirely ridiculousness when popular culture mass produces content with underlining racist ideas that are then soaked into our subconsciousness. EVERYONE has ideas about race. Denying this makes you more dangerous, as it means that when the subconscious racism appear you are refusing to acknowledge their existence, thus passing them on to the next generation.
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BocaMom
08:46 AM on 08/21/2010
And it's President Bush's fault, too!
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DianeRPCFL
04:01 PM on 08/21/2010
If by your statement you mean our tanked economy, over 4000 American killed in a war based on lies, torture used against "enemy combatants", war crimes, doubling our deficit in less than 8 years, turning us into a debtor nation to a marxist/socialist government, China - yeah, you're right it is Bush's fault.
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lindaj3884
04:42 PM on 08/21/2010
Fanned and faved and we need to keep shouting it until the election. It seems the electorate has a very short memory
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cyndeewi
Here to save the day
07:38 PM on 08/21/2010
LOL
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DrBlunt
Telling it like it is....
06:10 AM on 08/21/2010
I agree with her outlook 100%!
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zunklives
Jesus IS a socialist
05:08 AM on 08/21/2010
Fox nation ran the story hours before she was fired, and they have done this kind of "editing" before, with supreme court justice nominee, Goodwin Liu, These reports of peoples conversations being took out of context is a Fox staple, for shame, More people should make them pay for their deflamation of character, where it hurts, their pocketbooks. Please Mrs Sherrod, sue fox and beirtbart, maybe with less money, they will run less bullsht
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Vince Weiguang Li
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12:50 AM on 08/21/2010
Her husband Charles Sherrod said the following, Quote:

Find a way that we can trust each other so that our monies can work for our total liberation. We have ideas, inventions [and] athletic talent, but our labors and our monies and our contracts usually end up in the white folks’ hands and pockets. When will we trust our own? When will we feel responsible to save ourselves?

W]e must stop the white man and his Uncle Toms from stealing our elections. We must not be afraid to vote black. And we must not be afraid to turn a black out who votes against our interest. We’ve got to stay tough…

see it yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m22eXuYNbkY
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Boomer946
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10:44 AM on 08/21/2010
And your point is?

If you understand the background of Mr. Sherrod as well as the environmental context of the 1960's and earlier in the South, you would be able to understand better what Mr. Sherrod was saying. Since the Civil War Blacks had been totally disenfranchised economically by the White power structure via overtly racist laws and practices. I lived in Mississippi in the late 1940's and early 1950's. I remember the jobs open to my relatives were mostly limited to working the fields of White farmers, and working as servants in White homes. Very few had more traditional type jobs such as working at lumberyards, at car dealerships, stores or in factories. Mr. Sherrod is encouraging Blacks to focus on pooling their talents and purchasing power to rectify the deplorable economic conditions that had been forced upon them by the White power structure. We have heard a similar argument in the "Buy American" movement which encourages us to use our American dollars to support American business over foreign businesses.
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Vince Weiguang Li
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12:49 PM on 08/22/2010
1.The Pigford case and following legislative activity on the case, show the following. A large number of claims, 16,000 that were processed with a settlement of $50,000 per claim, and 70,000 claims filed after the deadline. Note: the validity of claims is specifically not reviewable by the terms of the settlement, meaning anyone and everyone that files a claim gets paid. Legislation allows these late claims to be processed. Note: in 1992 it was stated by the USDA that there were 18,000 black farmers in the entire USA.

If Congress is serious about getting rid of fraud and waste, here is a good place to start, however, the legislation on the matter indicates that the claims are specifically not reviewable. Free money from Heaven for those that will contact the Plaintiff class actions attorneys that were rewarded so well for their work.

2. The Pigford Farms settlement with Sherrod's New Communities organization as the main plaintiff, garnered several direct benefits to the Sherrods including the USDA post, the forgiveness of debt, etc. It is quite likely that administration officials familiar with the deals cut her loose so quickly since a light was about to be shined on a dark corner for things to start scurrying out.
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Vince Weiguang Li
Alferd Packer-Epicurean Go Go Greyhound!
12:51 PM on 08/22/2010
3. Worst of all is the following courtesy of Time magazine
As it turns out, Ms. Sherrod has had plenty of luck with the legal system. Sherrod and her husband, Charles, run a nonprofit advocacy group called Rural Development Leadership Network. That organization last year happened to be awarded about $12.5 million in the Pigford case, a sum representing $8.25 million for the loss of land plus $4.25 million for the loss of income. That didn't include $300,000 to the Sherrods ($150,000 for each spouse) for "pain and suffering." Nor did it include an unspecified sum for "debt forgiveness." Significantly, this settlement, the largest of any Pigford plaintiff, was announced only days before her USDA appointment of July 25, 2009.

On what basis did the Sherrods qualify for this princely sum? Back in 1969, the couple, along with other black families, had established a rural land trust in Lee County, Georgia (in the southwest part of the state) known as New Communities, Inc. With almost 6,000 acres, New Communities was the largest black-owned tract in the country. The trust would retain ownership of the land, but would lease it to black homeowners, farmers and small businessmen. The project received a planning grant from the federal Office of Economic Opportunity.
12:30 PM on 08/21/2010
Let's change the quote a smidgeon and see what happens....

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We've got to find a way that we farmers can trust each other so that our monies can work for our total liberation. We have ideas, inventions [and] athletic talent, but our labors and our monies and our contracts usually end up in the food processors’ hands and pockets. When will we trust our own? When will we feel responsible to save ourselves?

W]e must stop the food processors and their minions from stealing our elections. We must not be afraid to vote for farmers. And we must not be afraid to turn a farmer out who votes against our interests as farmers. We’ve got to stay tough…

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11:39 PM on 08/20/2010
The former Agriculture Department official also said she never heard from the NAACP to hear her side of the story prior to its statement on the video. “The NAACP has not tried to contact me one time, and that’s why this happened,” she said. “I would have appreciated having the NAACP at least contact me … to try to get the truth about what happened.”

http://politisite.com/2010/07/20/sherrod-blames-naacp-for-firing/
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11:30 PM on 08/20/2010
"I don't feel that Fox will be fair in their reporting of anything I say. They didn't reach out to me before they put it all out there. There was no attempt by Fox or Breitbart to reach out to me to at least get a statement about what they were putting out... I have a closed mind at this point with them."

The NAACP did not reach out to her for an explanation before the condemned her. The WH did not reach out to her for an explanation before they fired her.
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MartyJo
If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.
01:41 AM on 08/21/2010
Hey f@tty....just another factless fox freak trying to make hay out of straw. You are beholden to
l!es and deceit. You bring nothing of substance to the table except maybe shiiiit, after all it is a substance.
09:13 AM on 08/21/2010
True, and Fox did not run the story before she was fired. The LA Times tracked the timing, so most everyone but some left blogs know that already.

However, it's her choice as to whom to forgive. I find it a bit odd that she's claiming to be one who encourages people to work together when her own personal ideas are so clearly not about that.
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Boomer946
Time to expose the man behind the curtain
10:50 AM on 08/21/2010
You are asking her to be more saintly and forgiving than those professional rabblerousers at Fox and Andrew Breitbart? Unbelievable! Why should she waste her time dealing with Fox? She knows the kind of programs they put on every day. She knows the themes that have been promoted by Fox over the past several years. So why waste her time to go on Fox and then have them start making the same arguments you Fox fans are making here. She is willing to work with folks who are honestly trying to do the right thing, but she is smart enough not to "...throw her pearls to swine!" as Jesus said.
01:29 PM on 08/21/2010
Get your facts straight!. Fox News.com (official web page of Fox News) ran the story for hours before she was fired. That meant that this story was going to be featured on all of Fox`s news and talk shows. How can you defend Fox`s who supposed credo is " fair and balanced " when Rupert Murdoch has in the last few days donated 1 million dollars to the republican party. Could you imagine the backlash if NBC, or CBS or ABC donated to a political party.The fair and balanced credo is too comical for words.
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Dosadi
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09:19 PM on 08/20/2010
Remember everyone. If someone calls your job, lies on you and gets you fired, you should not be upset with the person who lied. Instead you should concentrate all of your efforts on the person who got deceived. The person who lied about you, by fright wing standards did no wrong. The person who lied has nothing to do with you getting fired, it is all on the person who was deceived by the lie. Being a republican is easy, you just drop all sense of fairness, do away with intelligent thought and start blaming everyone else for your mistakes.
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Dosadi
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07:59 PM on 08/20/2010
Why is everyone picking on me? I was just the one that yelled "Fire." I didn't trample any of those people. Blame the people who fell for my lie or blame the people who opened the double doors to the theater but don't blame me, I did nothing wrong.

Does that about sum up the right wings view of this?
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DianeRPCFL
04:13 PM on 08/21/2010
Yes it does. These gutless cowards take no responsibility for the evil they do or the destruction they cause.
07:09 PM on 08/20/2010
Why is she not suing Fox !
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Dosadi
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07:42 PM on 08/20/2010
Fox went to court a few years ago and got a judge to agree that they can legally lie on TV. Bretbart is the one that should bear the brunt of her anger. If someone lies to you boss about you and you get fired, why ignore the one responsible for the ordeal (the liar) and concentrate on the one who got fooled? Makes little sense to me.
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11:32 PM on 08/20/2010
Liar. That a local Fox Affiliate in Florida not Fox News that went to court.
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11:32 PM on 08/20/2010
She was fired before Fox News went on the air with the story.
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02:25 PM on 08/21/2010
Why did Billo tell her to resign?