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Republicans Hot, Cold On Constitution

BEN EVANS   08/23/10 04:13 PM ET   AP

Paul Broun
Rep. Paul Broun , R-Ga,, speaks on the set of Georgia Public television in this Wednesday, July 2, 2008 file photo in Atlanta. Broun said Monday, Nov. 10, 2008, that he fears that President-elect Obama will establish a Gestapo-like security force to impose a Marxist dictatorship. (AP Photo/Gregory Smith, File)

WASHINGTON — Republican Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia won his seat in Congress campaigning as a strict defender of the Constitution. He carries a copy in his pocket and is particularly fond of invoking the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

But it turns out there are parts of the document he doesn't care for – lots of them. He wants to get rid of the language about birthright citizenship, federal income taxes and direct election of senators, among others. He would add plenty of stuff, including explicitly authorizing castration as punishment for child rapists.

This hot-and-cold take on the Constitution is surprisingly common within the GOP, particularly among those like Broun who portray themselves as strict Constitutionalists and who frequently accuse Democrats of twisting the document to serve political aims.

Republicans have proposed at least 42 Constitutional amendments in the current Congress, including one that has gained favor recently to eliminate the automatic grant of citizenship to anyone born in the United States.

Democrats – who typically take a more liberal view of the Constitution as an evolving document – have proposed 27 amendments, and fully one-third of those are part of a package from a single member, Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., D-Ill. Jackson's package encapsulates a liberal agenda in which everyone has new rights to quality housing and education, but most of the Democratic proposals deal with less ideological issues such as congressional succession in a national disaster or voting rights in U.S. territories.

The Republican proposals, by contrast, tend to be social and political statements, such as the growing movement to repeal the 14th Amendment's birthright citizenship. Republicans like Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the top GOP lawmaker on the Senate Judiciary Committee, argue that immigrants are abusing the right to gain citizenship for their children, something he says the amendment's authors didn't intend.

Sessions, who routinely accuses Democrats of trying to subvert the Constitution and calls for respecting the document's "plain language," is taking a different approach with the 14th Amendment. "I'm not sure exactly what the drafters of the amendment had in mind," he said, "but I doubt it was that somebody could fly in from Brazil and have a child and fly back home with that child, and that child is forever an American citizen."

Other widely supported Republican amendments would prohibit government ownership of private companies, bar same-sex marriage, require a two-thirds vote in Congress to raise taxes, and – an old favorite – prohibit desecration of the American flag.

During the health care debate, Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., introduced an amendment that would allow voters to directly repeal laws passed by Congress – a move that would radically alter the Founding Fathers' system of checks and balances.

Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., who founded a tea party caucus in Congress honoring the growing conservative movement that focuses on Constitutional governance, wants to restrict the president's ability to sign international treaties because she fears the Obama administration might replace the dollar with some sort of global currency.

Broun, who is among the most conservative members of Congress, said he sees no contradiction in his devotion to the Constitution and his desire to rewrite parts of it. He said the Founding Fathers never imagined the size and scope of today's federal government and that he's simply resurrecting their vision by trying to amend it.

"It's not picking and choosing," the second-term congressman said. "We need to do a lot of tweaking to make the Constitution as it was originally intended, instead of some perverse idea of what the Constitution says and does."

The problem with such a view, says constitutional law scholar Mark Kende, is that divining what the framers intended involves subjective judgments infused with politics. Holding up the 2nd Amendment as sacrosanct, for example, while dismissing other parts of the Constitution is "cherry picking," said Kende, director of Drake University's Constitutional Law Center.

Virginia Sloan, an attorney who directs the nonpartisan Constitution Project, agreed.

"There are a lot of people who obviously don't like income taxes. That's a political position," she said of criticism of the 16th Amendment, which authorized the modern federal income tax more than a century ago. "But it's in the Constitution ... and I don't think you can go around saying something is unconstitutional just because you don't like it."

Sloan said that while some proposals to alter the Constitution have merit, most are little more than posturing by politicians trying to connect with voters.

"People are responding to the politics of the day, and that's not what the framers intended," she said. "They intended exactly the opposite – that the Constitution not be used as a political tool."

The good news, Sloan and Kende said, is that such proposals rarely go anywhere.

Since the nation's founding, just 27 have survived the arduous amendment process, and 10 of those came in the initial Bill of Rights.

Only two have come in the past 40 years, and both avoided ideology. One, ratified in 1971, lowered the voting age to 18; the other, ratified in 1992, limited Congress' ability to raise lawmakers' salaries.

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WASHINGTON — Republican Rep. Paul Broun of Georgia won his seat in Congress campaigning as a strict defender of the Constitution. He carries a copy in his pocket and is particularly fond of invo...
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dbrett480
03:44 PM on 08/24/2010
This is the reason why the founding fathers made it so difficult to amend the constitution. California should of taken a lesson from them.
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Truth In Voting
Paranoid Rightwing Catchphrase Bingo!!
02:42 AM on 08/24/2010
I admire Paul Broun for being a staunch protector of the convenient parts of the Constitution that serves his philosophy. I know it's not easy defending the parts you agree with, but such is the task of the brave protectors of the Constitution like himself.

Let me guess, he's also a faithful steward of the Bible verses and selected passages that he agrees with?
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The One True Dave
Liberal, apatheist, disabled combat vet.
01:58 AM on 08/24/2010
As is so often the case these days, satire and reality are getting hard to distinguish.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-man-passionate-defender-of-what-he-imagines-c,2849/
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Birdman
12:19 AM on 08/24/2010
Give me my guns ... The rest of the constitution is communistic crap .. this is the battle cry of the GOP and tea baggers. They are all thumbing their noses at 200 + years of history .... Makes you wonder why they do not live somewhere else.. Oh wait they were born here so they are citizens... Kind of a shame they are covered by the same 14th amendment. Or their parents were or grand parents.. Point is somewhere along the line their relatives were immigrants, and therefore they could be subject to deportation if any of their relatives were here illegally.. but wait it has only been the last 75 or so years that the immigrations laws have been tightened up.. Because what are considered illegal immigrants today would have been acceptable 75 years ago. This all goes back to the selective application of the constitution. After all the GOP wants the right to impose their religion on everyone and have their guns, however someone else shouldn't be allowed too hence the big blowup over the Muslim religious center (NOT A MOSQUE) near ground zero. It is all about the conservative interpretation of the Constitution and applying those interpretations as they see fit.
11:55 PM on 08/23/2010
Please learn our history!

The Founders were Liberals.

"America, the first modern liberal state was founded, without a monarch or a hereditary aristocracy."

"Liberalism first became a powerful force in the Age of Enlightenment, rejecting many foundational assumptions that dominated most earlier theories of government, "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

The US founders loved " The Enlightenment" of the people. that's part of the general welfare. You need to feed cloth and shelter people before you can educate them, and hopefully Enlighten them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment

Bush, Cheney, the GOP, the very flower of the conservative movement, shredded the constitution, bankrupted the economy, abused the truth, tortured, war mongered, let the poor die.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

Obama's Administration is DLC, is conservative: 
"It is the opinion of the DLC that economic populism is not politically viable
...The DLC states that it “seeks to define and galvanize popular support for a new public philosophy built on progressive ideals, mainstream values, and innovative, non-bureaucratic, market-based solutions"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

Grayson, Dean, Kucinich and much of the Progressive Caucus ARE real founding father type liberals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_Progressive_Caucus

Vote liberal in the Primary, and democrat in the election.

The greatest president ever, FDR had this to say:

http://exiledonline.com/fdrs-second-bill-of-rights-speech-that-you-were-never-supposed-to-see/
11:01 PM on 08/23/2010
Republicans in complete control of all branches of government for 6 years never seen any problem with the constitution.As usual if elected war and making sure you fear the boogie man takes over.They want to be your hero protecting you from the boogie man.Talking constitution creates that boogie man for them.Once they are elected they will tell you the boogie man is gone now.
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10:57 PM on 08/23/2010
The people like the, “Tea Bagger Right” are the same people the framer of the constitution were protecting the masses from. It was pretty much working until the ignorant right started to think they have some sort of power. If this country is as forward thinking as I feel it is the masses will reject the ignorant right and all of its nativist politics
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millertime
Sometimes facts hurt...
10:36 PM on 08/23/2010
I don't understand how a professor that considers the Constitution flawed is considered an activist, but a Republican Senator that considers it flawed is a Neocon...
12:46 AM on 08/24/2010
Ditto.
10:10 PM on 08/23/2010
Sorry, SpinMeter. ReThugs are just stoooopid on the Constitution.
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kenhamlett
09:49 PM on 08/23/2010
Having been told this week by people who disagree with my opinion on the Mosque (I am a liberal NYC Democrat who thinks it should be moved out of sensitivity) (1) to shut up, (2) that I am anti-Islam, and (3) that I don't believe in freedom on religion -- all because I simply exercised my rights of free speech and dissent, it is clear that it is not just the Republicans who run hot and cold on the Constitution. Lowered voices, less hysterical news media coverage, and real dialogue would be helpful here -- not just name-calling and questioning people's belief in the Constitution. Perhaps with time ....
RogueTRex
My micro-bio is empty
09:01 AM on 08/24/2010
I'm pretty sick of people who, whenever they're told to shut up, say that their constitutional right to free speech is being infringed (ala Dr. Laura). Free speech also covers people who want to tell others to shut up (not just the person who is told to). So, kenhamlett, when people exercise their rights, and criticize you for what you say, they are not necessarily running cold on the Constitution. In fact, they're embracing it and using their rights.
(and, no, I'm not saying they're right to criticize you for stating your opinion, or your opinion is wrong. I'm just saying that both sides should be equally able to, and that doesn't make either one of you less fond of the Constitution. Just trying to point out some hypocricy)
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ChiGuy
Just an earthbound misfit, I
09:24 PM on 08/23/2010
"Broun, who is among the most conservative members of Congress, said he sees no contradiction in his devotion to the Constitution and his desire to rewrite parts of it. He said the Founding Fathers never imagined the size and scope of today's federal government and that he's simply resurrecting their vision by trying to amend it."
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Yet he won't admit that the Founding Fathers never imagined how the 2nd Amendment would abet the proliferation of handguns that so drastically increase crime and murder in the United States.

What a hypocrite.
09:59 PM on 08/23/2010
Completely agree! As illustrated in my comment below - If you're going to say that one Amendment needs to be put into historical perspective, then the whole thing is subject to the same argument.
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ChicagoBob
Save the Earth-It's the only planet with chocolate
09:21 PM on 08/23/2010
GOPers cherry pick the Bible, why not the constitution.
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10:45 PM on 08/23/2010
You say cherry pick the bible and constitution and I say they prostitute them in a perverse way.
08:49 PM on 08/23/2010
Broun said - "We need to do a lot of tweaking to make the Constitution as it was originally intended, instead of some perverse idea of what the Constitution says and does."

Oh GOODY - If we have to look at our Living Constitution in the stagnant frame of historical context, let's start here...

Second Amendment - A well regulated Militia**, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear (single shot muzzle loading rifles, flintlock muskets and pistols), shall not be infringed.

** = If you recall our lesson on Article Two Section Two, it reads (in part) ... "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and OF THE MILITIA of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;", therefore the militias mentioned in the second amendment are under his ultimate command...

Is THAT what they mean by "as it was originally intended"?

No , that's not really how I think, but if you're going to put one part of the Document in that light, the whole thing must go under.
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Ronald Sloan
08:45 PM on 08/23/2010
I am getting a very upset with the Democratic Party when they say that the Republicans
have no agenda. That is far from true. They have been putting it forward now for months.
We do know that the republicans believe in the Constitution and Bill of Right to the
Letter….. Except the 1st amendment, 14th amendment and freedom of religion.
Otherwise they believe in the Constitution and Bill of Rights to the letter so they say.
The republicans believe that Social Security needs to be privatized. Had the funds been invested
In the private sector then most of the elderly and people ready to retire would have lost between 70 to 80% of their retirement funds with no way to recoup these funds.
Deregulate the Oil industry allowing them to drill with little or no regulations that promote safety
and sound drilling practices.
Deregulate Wall Street allowing them to continue the practices that caused the crash of
2009. Where they reaped huge profits with no concern to the health of the economy.
Deregulate the mining industry allowing the mining company to continue the unsafe mining practices and reap huge profits paid for by the lives of the miners under their employment.
These are just a few areas that the republicans are campaigning on.
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Sandee McHale Delano
Do not fear change. Change fear
10:29 PM on 09/13/2010
SSDD with the GOP. I am going go door to door to try and EDUCATE people about the Republican "AGENDA". I have worked very hard for 30 years, paid into SS and I will be damned if I loose this. I would LOVE to know how the folks who are screaming for smaller government, tax reductions, blah blah, are going to fund building/maintaining roads in their state, provide children with a good education, etc. How is all of this going to be PAID for? The Koch brothers?
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Artos
Down with Tyrants
08:31 PM on 08/23/2010
Conservatives have always believed in rights and freedom as long as it was there rights and their freedoms, anybody else's can just go hang. Anybody else unless they prove useful to the Conservative is not worthy to be alive. This is their belief system.
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Birdman
12:22 AM on 08/24/2010
Exactly right I could not have said it better.