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Is Rep. Paul Ryan's Budget Roadmap Really A Roadmap?


First Posted: 08/30/10 02:06 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:30 PM ET

Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) appears to be publicly backing away from his controversial budget roadmap. In a conference call with reporters on Monday, the ranking member of the House Budget Committee said his budget plan may not guide Republicans if they win the majority in November.

First, Ryan made sure to note that he doesn't "represent the Republican Party" and wrote his two roadmaps "as an individual in Congress, not as the chairman-- the ranking member of the Budget Committee." He then stressed that budgets need to be written with the "consensus" of the Republican caucus:

When I write budgets, those are as the ranking member or chairman of the Budget Committee, which are done in a consensus way. So what I will do, whether I'm ranking or chairman, is try to get consensus on a budget going forward. Now, one thing I can tell you, is we're going to stop the spending spree. That's for sure. What are the details going forward? I can't answer that question because I've got to reach a consensus among my caucus. [...]

I'll simply say this: If we pass a plan to get our entitlement situation under control in the long term, that will help us in the short term. If we show the credit markets and the economy that we're doing the necessary changes -- in my view, the roadmap doesn't affect the benefits for anybody over the age of 55, and that's sort of what's lost in the demagoguery of this campaign. What I'm saying, if you act now, or very soon, if you're in or near retirement or 10 years away from retirement, this isn't about you. This is about the younger generation reforming these programs so that they're sustainable, so that they work better, and we pay off our debt over time. And if you pass a plan like that now, which affects the future, it will actually affect us in the present, because it shows us that we're not going down the path of Europe, that we're not courting a debt. We're pre-empting a debt crisis.

Publicly, most of his party isn't going along with his roadmap of steep cuts. House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) has taken pains to distance himself from Ryan's plan, saying, "Paul Ryan, who's the ranking member on our budget committee, has done an awful lot of work in putting together his roadmap. But it's his. And I know the Democrats are trying to say that it's the Republican leadership. But they know that's not the case." So far, there are just 13 co-sponsors in the House.

Privately, however, the House leadership seems much more supportive. In February, Ryan told Talking Points Memo that GOP leaders were "absolutely" supportive of what he was doing, and Boehner couldn't name a single item that he disagreed with in the roadmap. As the Huffington Post has reported, several Republicans in top-tier congressional races have also come out and embraced the roadmap. So while Ryan and the GOP are publicly distancing themselves from the roadmap, privately it may still be guiding their agenda.

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Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) appears to be publicly backing away from his controversial budget roadmap. In a conference call with reporters on Monday, the ranking member of the House Budget Committee sai...
Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) appears to be publicly backing away from his controversial budget roadmap. In a conference call with reporters on Monday, the ranking member of the House Budget Committee sai...
 
 
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mountaingal
Liberty and justice for all.
11:45 PM on 08/31/2010
Ryans Road Map--increase the taxes for those earning 25k to 250k and give tax breaks to the top 2% to the tune of 700B. "Privatize" SS (invest in the stock market), make 70 the retirement age (especially for those in jobs that often do not reach 70), stop health ins. for kids, and Medicare would be on a voucher system so you could get your bypass surgery at the Walmart Clinic for $49.99. He also wants to cut the education budget because everyone knows we want to reduce our ability to innovate and invent. Ryan's vision of America is a country of haves and have nots with the have nots becoming serfs to the all consuming haves. Ryan will promote class warfare and there will be an uptick in unions and organized labor and I know some will resort to the 2nd Amendment solution and chaos will ensue. This is not the America we want but it is his and Boehner's vision of what we deserve. If we don't keep this from happening we and the generations that follow us will suffer. Vote against those who support this vile Road Map.
08:47 PM on 08/31/2010
ADAM SMITH, FATHER OF CAPITALISM, SAYS THE WEALTHY SHOULD PAY THEIR SHARE:

What capitalism guidebook do the Republicans and other so-called Conservatives have in mind when they talk about strangling the American economy?

I like this quote from Smith’s THE WEALTH OF NATIONS. It would be hard to find a clearer statement——by the founder of our capitalist system——of why the so-called Conservative or Republican ideology in relation to who really should pay taxes:

“The subject of every state ought to contribute toward towards the support of the government, as nearly as possible, in proportion to their respective abilities; that is, in proportion to the revenue which they respectively enjoy under the protection of the state.”

Taxes are not a punishment: they should be a badge of honor. High income is a testament to the success of the American Way.

Any real capitalist would know this. I don’t know what to call those people who would bankrupt America into second-class status, rather than pay for the benefits they get from our great system.

Does anybody else have an idea for what to label these would-be, anti-capitalist, capitalists?
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
04:32 PM on 08/31/2010
His 'roadmap' sounds very typically republican - feed the rich and starve the rest!
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kmswriter
This mean we can't be friends?
01:27 PM on 08/31/2010
So even if ryans so called road map is a guide for rethugs - as I read ryans comments - scr9ew you under 45 - we will still garner your wages and give it to our wall street cronies to play with - good bad or indifferent...wow! - How to win votes and influence a younger generation - wow!

privatize SS- oh yea! - heres how it works - we take your $$ - put it in the market - marketeers play - like "I think I'll sell ..I need some vaca $$... - or I think I will invest in...someone told me to ......oops - lost a bundle....no different from today - put your hard earned $$ in a credit Union....
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blaising
Greetings from Florida!
12:17 PM on 08/31/2010
Kinda tone-deaf for the GOP to use the term "road map" in light of the fairly common reference to Bush "driving the bus off the road" economy-wise.
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donnie-cheesehead
11:24 AM on 08/31/2010
The Puppet Masters have nothing to offer, can't defend what they already
have on the table (note Boehners response to Bush Tax Cut) All they have
is a whole lot of stuttering, no concrete proven facts.

They hold up some of Ryan's work and like an undisciplined schoolchild -
his work lacks numbers to defend his stance. Its like the man behind the
curtain all over again. They have done this magic trick many times in the last
18 months.

How they take the House and Senate is just baffling, I can see the 20% (Tea Party)
guided by Freedom works and Dick Army and the Koch brothers, another
Christian coalition will probably kick in another 10% and the rest will just depend
on the uninformed, unintellectual Dummy vote. If the Dummy (STUPID) vote
reaches beyond 20% then its game over.
10:30 AM on 08/31/2010
HEY A BLACK GUY!!! BRING HIM UP NEXT TO ME... NEXT TO ME!!!!!!

Ya Paul.... lemme see.

-Cut SSC, Medicare and Medicaid

-Raise taxes on the middle and lower classes

-lower taxes for the ultra rich

WHAT A GROUND BREAKING IDEA!!!!

Id10t (R)'s.... the (R)'s have "regifted" their idea's of what a strong economy should be built on for too long. It's not new. This is the SAME THING THEY DID BEFORE.

You'll fall for it. Because you're unable to think for yourselves OR not be racist. After all welfare is a entitlement program for minorities dontcha know.
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FriscoDem
Living my American Dream
10:06 AM on 08/31/2010
This should be used to hammer the point home to all the people who would vote against their best interest. Of course the GOP publically distances itself from this plan while privately wants to implement this plan. It has everything in here that every progressive has been saying - "Shifting the tax burden from the rich to the middle class". For a family making $50K - $75K, $900 in extra tax burden is a lot.
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
08:53 AM on 08/31/2010
They don't want to alarm the retirees who generally vote
Republican. The rhetoric is always about the next election cycle.
In fact, try and get a Rethug who is running this term to qualify a
position on any specific cuts in spending. They won't.
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bowlegs339
08:52 AM on 08/31/2010
How can rethug leaders now say Ryan's roadmap does not represent their views when everytime I see one of those clowns on TV, and the reporter asks, "what is the republican plan for reducing the deficit?", they bring up Ryan's plan?
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WOODSTOCKER51
HAVE A NICE DAY!
07:50 AM on 08/31/2010
.TED STEVENS HAD THAT SAME TYPE OF "ROAD" IN ALASKA......NOW PAUL ,"ROBIN HOOD OF THE WEALTHY" RYAN...IS GOING TO CREATE ANOTHER PLAN AS DANGEROUS TO AMERICANS AS THAT ONE WAS!!
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new beginning
Practice random acts of kindness-change the world
08:08 AM on 08/31/2010
The guy who doesn't know what the caps lock button is for, is baaaack! And making idiotic irrelevant comments as usual!
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WOODSTOCKER51
HAVE A NICE DAY!
08:28 AM on 08/31/2010
YOU HATE THIS COUNTRY SO MUCH.....THEN LEAVE!...........ETHIPOIA IS YOUR KINDA COUNTRY!.GO NOW!
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
08:54 AM on 08/31/2010
Although his keyboard may have a stuck "caps" key, the rest of the
keys seem to work well enough to see that he's telling the truth.
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WOODSTOCKER51
HAVE A NICE DAY!
08:23 AM on 08/31/2010
WELCOME TO AMERICA.WHERE "IDIOTIC IRRELEVANT" COMMENTS ARE "PROTECTED UNDER THE FIRST AMENDMENT"...LIKE THIS ONE ABOVE FROM "NEW BEGINNING".....................LOL
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bordway
If you need more than 7 rounds, use a knife.
07:00 AM on 08/31/2010
"What are the details going forward? I can't answer that question because I've" been busy obstructing the recovery of this nation so that the party can pick up some seats in November and return us to the failed policies that destroyed our economy in 2007/08. In reality, the question has been answered before, and you didn't like the answer then so I hesitate to repeat it.
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06:02 AM on 08/31/2010
"...privately it may still be guiding their agenda."

Yeah.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ernest-istook/solutions-for-america-off_b_687797.html#comments

Did anyone NOT expect the right-wing Heritage Foundation to slither out from under a rock and start pimping Republican Paul Ryan's “Roadmap to Nowhere"?

http://www.roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/

Funny… the U.S, Chamber of Commerce recently demanded our surrender in its "Open Letter to the President of the United States, the United States Congress, and the American People"

http://rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2010/07/us-chamber-of-commerce-open-letter-to.html

...which happens to sound suspiciously like the fiscal plan touted by the Heritage Foundation... which, in turn, sounds exactly like Ryan's "Roadmap.”

It's almost incestuous.

But let's be clear, GOP lawmakers say they don't embrace the plan [publically]


Heritage Foundation is positively giddy over Ryan's "Roadmap for America's Future":

http://blog.heritage.org/2010/03/11/tpc%E2%80%99s-hits-and-misses-on-ryan%E2%80%99s-roadmap/

"Republican Tea Party Contract on America" a.k.a. "Solutions for America"

http://my.democrats.org/page/content/tpgop
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
08:56 AM on 08/31/2010
In WI, this little twerp is called "Lyin' Ryan".
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09:22 AM on 08/31/2010
I can see why. Maybe WI could pass on its hard-won wisdom (grin).
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BoyInBOYCOTT
03:46 AM on 08/31/2010
Ryan was telling the truth to begin with, his plan is the GOP plan, but Boehner knows it is politically deadly....until AFTER they are in office.
You know when Boehner is lying...his orange lips move.
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WOODSTOCKER51
HAVE A NICE DAY!
07:51 AM on 08/31/2010
BEING A LIAR IS ONE OF THE RETHUGS "STRONG POINTS".......
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Robinoxious
12:40 AM on 08/31/2010
Once the people on the wrong side of the divide (age 55) figure out what's going on, how long you reckon they are going to keep paying for those on the right side of the divide? Repos only gotta fool the olders: "This won't affect you."
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madisonhack
I prefer not to......
08:58 AM on 08/31/2010
That's what they're counting on, all the while saying stuff about
Obamacare "death panels". Hypocrites and outright liars.