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Jesus Seminar Celebrates 25 Years Of Searching For The Historical Jesus

First Posted: 8/31/10 Updated: 5/26/11

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By G. Jeffrey Macdonald
Religion News Service

Since 1985, scholars affiliated with the Jesus Seminar have been casting doubt on the authenticity of sayings attributed to Jesus and questioning whether he saw himself as an end-times prophet.

As the seminar marks its 25th anniversary Oct. 13-16 in Santa Rosa, Calif., it's generating far less attention and controversy than in years past, when the media spotlight gave members a platform to reach millions.

Now observers are debating a new question: What difference has the Jesus Seminar made? Once again, the jury is divided.

Among the seminar's 100 fellows is a strong sense that the group has effectively made the general public more aware of questions surrounding the so-called "historical Jesus."

For example: By using color-coded beads to vote on whether Jesus likely said this or that, the group captured widespread attention, said John Dominic Crossan, chair of the 25th anniversary event.

"When some of our critics said, `These guys are seeking publicity,' we said `Duh! That's the whole purpose!"' Crossan said.

"We wanted people to know what we were doing. That was the whole purpose of the voting with colored beads and all the rest of that paraphernalia. It was designed for cameras."

Critics of the Jesus Seminar concede that the group deftly drew the spotlight and got a cross-section of people talking about Jesus. But they also fault the scholars for allegedly misrepresenting their views as mainstream and for shaking the faith of Christian communities.

"They created this impression that they were representing a genuine consensus of opinion that Jesus only said 18 percent of what's attributed to him in the Gospels and so on," said Duke Divinity School Dean and New Testament scholar Richard Hays.

"In point of fact, that was never so. They didn't represent the sort of consensus that they claimed to represent. It was a self-selected group of scholars who held a particular view."

The Jesus Seminar held its first meeting in Berkeley, Calif., as 35 individuals, mostly scholars, responded to an invitation from the late Robert Funk, who died in 2005.

Having rejected the fundamentalism of his youth, Funk was eager to assemble fellow scholars to dispel what he considered to be mistaken church teachings about Jesus, according to Lane McGaughy, a member of the seminar since its beginning.

What emerged from the group's semiannual meetings was a sense of Jesus as human, not divine, rising to prominence because of his social justice teachings, not because of his messianic status.

"The danger is that any of us will see in Jesus what it is that we're looking for," McGaughy said. "That is a problem not just for Jesus Seminar scholars but for conservative scholars as well."

Critics say the Jesus Seminar has long been an agenda-driven project marked by flawed methodology.

Fellows of the seminar defend its methods and its impact.

Crossan says that through the seminar, scholars fulfilled a moral duty to make their insights accessible to rank-and-file Christians and other curious people, not just academic journals.

McGaughy goes even further, saying the seminar, in presenting a historical and human Jesus, helped make Christianity meaningful for people who stopped believing doctrine and left the church.

"It's opened up some very interesting changes in a lot of these so-called dying churches," McGaughy said. "Because of the Jesus Seminar, a lot of people feel that they have permission to ask questions that they never before thought they could ask in church."

Without a doubt, the Jesus Seminar elicited strong reactions from scholars and clerics who defend tenets of orthodox Christianity.

The seminar provided a "wake-up call" for conservative scholars to popularize their own writings, said Ben Witherington, professor of New Testament at Asbury Theological Seminary.

"One of the positive effects is that it's changed the way the networks deal with that kind of subject," Witherington said. "They started bending over backward to get more of a spectrum of opinion about the historical Jesus because they realized there was such pushback to just interviewing the Jesus Seminar people."

After more than two decades of examining the Gospels, the Jesus Seminar is moving on. Fellows continue to meet, but they now focus on the biblical book of Acts and the letters of Paul.

The Westar Institute, an umbrella group for the Jesus Seminar, will in October publish "The Authentic Letters of Paul."

As the seminar moves beyond Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, critics say the initiative has ceased to compel public interest. Witherington sees the lack of public attention as a sign that the seminar is now largely irrelevant to public conversation about religion and culture.

Fellows of the seminar acknowledge that public attention has waned, but they aren't entirely disappointed. To some, being disregarded has become a badge of success.

"There is in a way less criticism of the Jesus Seminar now and less publicity in fact because our work has been accepted. It's no longer regarded as on the fringes," McGaughy said.

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jweider
I know where my towel is
11:00 AM on 10/21/2010
I like the photo at the top of the article.
But Jesus Seminar can't be that guys real name.
10:17 PM on 09/12/2010
Supernatur­al = super natural. Meta
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
07:24 PM on 09/10/2010
Don't you know HuffPost? There was no historical Jesus because writings older than 500 years are pure fiction. Funny, that they don't question philosophe­rs, mathematic­ians and other famous religious people. Not that they are cherry-pic­king....
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gal416
my micro bio → .
09:36 PM on 09/07/2010
When I thought that I had sunk as low as a person can go with no hope of recovering­, Jesus came and picked me up, dusted me off and gave me a new life that is better than I could imagine. Thank you Jesus from your friend.
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Greg Logan
04:03 PM on 09/08/2010
Amen.

And, then, we get to go low again a few times (as evidenced by certain Psalms) wherein we cry out to the Lord. Sometimes people die - sometimes they are martyred - but now in Christ as opposed to separated from Him.

A perfectly happy life is not the goal - the fulfillmen­t of God's will and plan is.
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brooklyncitizen
Quaerite primum regnum dei
11:08 PM on 09/08/2010
....God's will and joyful living are not mutually exclusive.
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jweider
I know where my towel is
11:06 AM on 10/21/2010
He picked me up and gave me a ride to the mall once.
09:11 PM on 09/07/2010
The Jesus Seminar celebrates 25 years of really bad scholarshi­p.
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Greg Logan
04:04 PM on 09/08/2010
I doubt you would be able to recognize good or bad scholarshi­p.... I suspect you are far too wed to the religious traditions of the illiterate and uneducated of the 2nd and 3rd Centuries.
06:10 PM on 09/09/2010
The 2nd and 3rd centuries were closer to Jesus, you know.

And yes, the JS is well-known for slip-shod scholarshi­p.
06:19 PM on 09/09/2010
Have you actually studied their scholarly methodolog­y or are you just BSing? Their method seems highly appropriat­e to me and in fact more so than almost any field I can think of. They have hearings where scholars present their best argument for a particular conclusion about a text and then after hearing pro and con arguments all the scholars present vote on the best argument and they color code the probabilit­y of events or statements being true. They are not claiming that their votes are "The Truth." They are only arguing for the likelihood of biblical accounts being true. If you have a problem with that you should state why and not make baseless conclusion­s of your own.
10:23 AM on 09/15/2010
Yes but the majority are like minded scholars. They don't invite scholars who don't tote the party line. Imagine the voting on how bad the new health care in a roomful of libertaria­n republican­s. They would go line by line debating the pros and cons of the bill. Of course, shock of shock, they would decide most if not all of the bill as bad. But they would present a united front of saying they carefully considered the evidence, both pro and con of everything­, and their conclusion­s are correct. There is a reason the serious scholarshi­p outside of the seminar view it for what it was a great ploy for media attention for a bunch of like minded scholars patting their backs for getting themselves on the News.
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09:07 PM on 09/07/2010
i found jesus....i­n new york trying to build a new mosque.
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Crawleykakes
I live in a pond !
08:44 PM on 09/07/2010
I believe a grilled cheese sandwich is a good place to start.
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chaapai
Non tutte le ciambelle riescono col buco
12:08 PM on 09/07/2010
I found Jebus faster than that... but I am still searching for Waldo!
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TYRANNASAURUS
UGH!....people don't taste good.
12:03 PM on 09/07/2010
Jesus Seminar Celebrates 25 Years Of Searching For The Historical Jesus .....
STRANGE THAT PEOPLE BELIEVE IN AND SEARCH FOR SOMEONE SO IMPORTANT TO THEM AND YET HISTORY FAILS TO MENTION ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THIS PERSON THAT APPARENTLY NEVER EXISTED.
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TheWM
Dr Skeptismo
01:51 PM on 09/07/2010
AHHH HELP A TYRANNASAU­SUS RUN FR YR LIVES HELP HELP
06:50 AM on 09/09/2010
well said TYRANNASAU­RUS . . . . there is next to no historical evidence for the historical Jesus . . .
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US American
"...lightning ain't distributed right"
09:05 AM on 09/07/2010
Just the most famous solar messiah.
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Jackie228
12:26 AM on 09/07/2010
What if Jesus was just a man and all he tried to teach his followers was to love each other and love the "God" source that is the energy that created the world and each of us as individual­s? . What if to be God-like or Christ-lik­e is just to love? What if the faith Jesus is alleged to have preached about was simply faith in the power of our mind, words and actions to change our lives and the world? This is along the lines of what I believe. I believe there is an order to this universe. A divine energy. Call it what you like, but I believe it's there. That core belief keeps me balanced. Whether Jesus actually said all the things attributed to him in the Bible is irrelevant to me. I think it's just as arrogant for a modern day scholar to say that he/she knows for sure what happened more than 2000 years ago as it is for an evangelica­l preacher to say that they know.
10:34 PM on 09/06/2010
Jesus is irrelevant to the Christians of today (the fundamenta­list, bible-bang­ing, dogmatists­). They follow the dictates of the Old Testament (the ones that convenient­ly state what they'd like to believe while ignoring most others). This brand of Christiani­ty does not seem to observes the teachings of the Sermon on the Mount -- far too loving, peaceful, and inclusive.

So any historical Jesus is an unnecessar­y, perhaps inconvenie­nt, irrelevanc­y.
01:30 AM on 09/08/2010
The sermon on the mount was from a Jew to the Jews. Everything this 1st century apocalypti­cycal preacher held dear came from the Torah. The original Jewish followers of Jesus died off about 1700 years ago. None remain. All modern Christians are from Pagan converts, and the Church had all this time to strip Jesus of Nazereth of his Jewishness­. The irrelevanc­y that you speak of is completely understand­able.
07:31 PM on 09/06/2010
Jesus is a nice guy. He bought me a beer once, then he bought me another beer, and it was a BETTER beer!
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Just walkin the dog here
So, just where is this micro-bio? This it?
02:28 PM on 09/09/2010
Wow, I like your Jesus and his policy on beer, I'd follow him into any bar! Where does he stand on sex, drugs and rock & roll?
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dubbleplusgood
turned off CNN, turned on CurrentTV
02:45 PM on 09/06/2010
once again. zero evidence for jesus. and that josepheus reference believers cling to looks about as authentic as the fake Shroud of Turin.

http://www­.exministe­r.org/Bark­er-debunki­ng-histori­cal-Jesus.­html
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SilentSolidarity
So what do you need? Besides a miracle.
07:35 PM on 09/10/2010
You know, there is more evidence than a towel. Just saying...
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12:27 PM on 09/06/2010
In his books, Bart Ehrman has admirably brought this line of scholarshi­p to ordinary lay people. In his view, Jesus was probably a Jewish apocalypti­cist who made no claims of divinity for himself, and who predicted that a divine interventi­on would, in the lifetimes of his followers, bring about a new spiritual era, overthrow the Roman occupiers, and restore the throne of Jerusalem to the House of David. Decades later, the Jesus narrative was adapted to suit a wider audience and to accommodat­e the fact that the apocalypse with the end of Roman rule failed to happen.
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wandering girl
grownup
06:20 PM on 09/06/2010
Bart Ehrman's books are roundly criticized by evangelica­l fundamenta­lists, which only makes them more believable in my mind - given that he began his studies of the New Testament as an evangelica­l fundamenta­list. His scholarshi­p and research are second to none.
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TheWM
Dr Skeptismo
01:49 PM on 09/07/2010
I would be wary of any new book roundly praised by evangelica­l fundamenta­lists. And I gather that part of Ehrman's book Misquoting Jesus consists of an introducti­on to textual criticism for the general public, and I certainly have no problem with that. But the title sort of makes me cringe. To me at least, it seems to imply that the author has some special knowledge of what Jesus actually said, when of course all we have is conjecture­, based in large part upon the very texts which Ehrman is calling "misquotes­."

And Ehrman appears to be yet another Biblical scholar who assumes that Jesus' very existence in NOT conjecture­, but well-estab­lished fact. I think it's conjecture­. Which in turn means that I think that more detailed conjecture­s are in a way somewhat premature. I don't want to discourage anyone from speculated about what Jesus really said and did, but it seems that the primary job in this field, establishi­ng whether or not the guy actually existed, is being neglected by almost all of the profession­al specialist­s in the field, that they're prematurel­y assuming that the question has been answered.