3 Pieces Of Advice For Clinton On Middle East Peace Talks: Foreign Policy

Foreign Policy :

This weekend, Elliott Abrams, a deputy national security advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush, offered three pieces of advice to Secretary Clinton -- OK, actually the U.S. government, but Clinton is the one facilitating the project -- on Middle East peace negotiations.

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[Woody Stemms]

05:17 PM on 09/08/2010

It has become increasingly obvious that the "delete" key on the HP is under the control of Zionist agents.

We posted a very simple, straightforward, message, relating to an article on the Anti Defamation League, and it was scrubbed out.

So, we're going to post it again and again until the message becomes clear to the Zionist agents that we will not stop criticizing them.

Here's the post: “The ADL is AIPAC light.”

How does that violate the HP guidelines?

[Fred Ricardo]

02:24 PM on 09/08/2010

Stop giving Israel $3 BILLION DOLLARS if they don't stop building in the West Bank. That will get their attention and stop them from screwing Obama.

Israel isn't suffering a recession even while 40% of Israel Jews are on welfare. It is American money flowing in that keeps to good times rolling in Israel.

[Caromia]

02:40 PM on 09/08/2010

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Not $3Billion...$20-25+Billion. Much of it is hidden in forgiven loans and indirectly by 'Non-Profits' that benefit 'JewsOnly'. Billions have been collected to expand settlements.
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Further, Billions have been stolen from Holocaust Survivors...who have landed up living on starving stipends:
- http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=95
- http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=88
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[Caromia]

04:05 PM on 09/08/2010

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Not to mention...but why are we giving military aid to one of the worlds largest arms dealers?
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...except that they are doing us favors around the world...where the US does not want it's fingerprints all over (Israel has all the secrets and will, will, will blackmail America).

[mage]

12:31 PM on 09/08/2010

Don't give up..Yes you can! So many gifted people in this administration. Good luck, I feel optimistic this time.

[Musa1]

10:30 AM on 09/08/2010

Absolutely lacking credibility, integrity, respectability. It is a sham.

Abbas' capitulation, along with the little servant king of Jordan and the Pharoah of Egypt, demonstrate to the Muslim world that Obama and the West and their lackeys are enemies of justice and peace.
Abbas and his PLO elites are insured vast riches. Arafat already had villas in several countries. Abbas and his elites are said to have expensive cars, prime real estate, and untold bank accounts in Europe.

Its worse than a farce. Can an impoverished man be expected to surrender his one goat to the richest of men so that rich man could feel 'safe'?
Why not just cut a pound of flesh from his chest for 'security'.

By God, the truth of this matter will be known.

[Paulo1]

09:54 AM on 09/08/2010

Advice ?

Sure. Loose that silly black and white neo-pants suite design and get a hair cut. You look ridiculous.

I doubt she will take the advice but heck. I have more chance on mine than she does with middle east peace.

[Albert Amato]

10:47 AM on 09/08/2010

Feeling a little misogynist AND anti-American today?

[Caromia]

12:19 PM on 09/08/2010

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Basta Hombre: Not liking Clinton is not being Miso & Anti-A.
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Her policies are clearly 'pro-Israeli' and 'pro-Vichy' Palestinian. She is more Israeli, than Netanyahu....dems da fax.
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[Albert Amato]

01:58 PM on 09/08/2010

Twisted facts and logic.......mucho loco en la cabeza.

[sherifdxb]

08:11 AM on 09/08/2010

This is a recipe for disaster. Let the Israelis, who hold all the cards, negotiate with the weak victim without interference means that there is no power left on earth which can tell the occupier to withdraw as per international legality enshrined in countless UN Security Council resolutions!

[eric14]

07:33 AM on 09/08/2010

Neither side has either the will or the support to reach a negotiated peace. So, let's have an imposed peace. Empower the United Nations to devise and impose a peace plan. The United States would never support such a measure. Other powers would.

So, it has to be a negotiated peace. What does that ultimately consist of? Compelling Palestinians to yield more land. This is not going to happen. Deadlock.

[biwee]

07:18 AM on 09/08/2010

There will be no peace until Israel is forced into compliance with all applicable UN Security Council resolutions and the provisions of the Geneva Conventions regarding an occupying military force allowing its people to move into the occupied territory. End of Story......

[StCuthbert]

08:49 AM on 09/08/2010

There wasn't peace before there were any Jews in the "occupied territory".

[Pierre Gaspard]

02:47 AM on 09/08/2010

Whenever I see Netanyahu reaching for a handshake, I can't help but recall former White House Spokesman Joe Lockhart's remark he made in a recorded interview to Clayton Swisher, author of the book "The Truth About Camp David". Lockhart described Netanyahu as "one of the most obnoxious individuals you're going to come into - just a liar and a cheat. He could open his mouth and you could have no confidence that anything that came out of it was the truth."

[mage]

02:29 AM on 09/08/2010

My advice is don't give up..! I am also optimistic this time, because of the awsome team in this White House..The diversity , and the degree of intelligence in that team..Yes, they can.

[Fred Ricardo]

12:36 AM on 09/08/2010

My advice to Clinton, Don't trust anything Israel says.

Pull all the money going to that country and you will get them to cooperate.

[RozTlp]

12:04 AM on 09/08/2010

These are the reasons why these talks cannot reach a Final Agreement:
1) Refugees and their decedents: Abbas has no authority to tell them they are not going back to Israel. If he does, he will be considered a Traitor with over a majority of Palestinians (opposed to a minority who think of him as such today). Israel, with 5.5 million jews and 1.5 million muslims, cannot take 4 million Muslims since it would cause a civil war and the ultimate end of Jewish Nationhood (like the Chinese are doing to the Tibetans)

2) Jerusalem: The Old city is sacred to both. Abbas knows that Muslims who give up Islamic sacred ground (Waqf) are cosedered heretics and traitors to Islam. He can't do it. For Israel, The Old city is THE basis for the Jew's national asperations. After 1500 years of praying "Next year in rebuilt Jerusalem" no Israeli leader can give that up.

3) Final end to conflict: Religiously, Hamas considers all of Historic Palestine (Including what is now Israel) to be Islamic Waqf. Abbas can't make an agreement on their behalf (he,, they threw dozens of his men from the rooftops in 2007) nor expect them to adhere to it.

4) Iran: Iran needs an external enemy to justify its continued internal opression. Israel is it. Thus the 45,000 rockets given to Hizbullah and 5 thousand rockets given to Hamas give it an automatic veto on any agreement. The Iranian condition for peace? Refugee Return...

[RozTlp]

12:18 AM on 09/08/2010

Of course I still wish them luck and hope that somehow somewhere they manage to pull a rabbit out of the hat

Good luck to Abbas and Netanyahu

[JerryLevy]

12:55 AM on 09/08/2010

Thanks for the quick summary of the issues. You are right, and the West is too frightened to take stands that will make clear to those seeking Israel's destruction they will not permit it (like moving their embassies to West Jerusalem, laying down the law to Iran, and insisting the wealthy Arab countries pony up aid to the Palestinians).

[eric14]

07:26 AM on 09/08/2010

Invading Iraq did not help?

[vinny]

11:24 PM on 09/07/2010

A secret 36-page memo based on Obama administration statements indicates that the president warned Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas to start direct talks with Israel or risk losing American support for the recognition of the PA as a country.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/138808

[JerryLevy]

12:55 AM on 09/08/2010

If Obama did this, I am impressed. But it shows that the PA is not in any mood to talk

[Caromia]

01:49 PM on 09/08/2010

Valid point, yidkid...How could the Palestinian Authority ever become a country...it cannot.
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It is an organization, not a country
It is an organization that is not supported by the majority of Palestinians
It, Palestine will never be permitted to exist...except as an Apartied extension of Israel.
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[streetmagik]

10:39 PM on 09/07/2010

Clinton is smart enough to know she can't force a deal. But basically the Israelis had made a few offers in the past - some of them pretty decent - Barak and Olmert both made pretty far reaching offers. The Palestinians have not taken one yet - particularly Arafat who punked out on Mr. Clinton

The Palestinians seem to think time is on their side, I am not so sure - history seems to have invalidated that argument - over time they seem to lose more.

That said, Bibi will offer less then Barak unless Obama leans on him hard.

[Londoncall]

03:49 AM on 09/08/2010

"Punked out on" - what a valuable analysis. Why do you think the Palestinians didn't think the offers were "pretty decent"?

[persianadvocate]

10:17 PM on 09/07/2010

What a charade:
(1) the Israeli PM;
(2) a woman bought by AIPAC money several decades ago; and,
(3) a Palestinian stooge/puppet who was democratically defeated in a US-monitored election by HAMAS! -- he's as much the voice of the Palestinians as Lindsay Lohan!

The US is not an honest broker of peace and never will be. 3WA, here we come, thanks to this woman and the lobbies D's she S's instead of her cheating husband's.