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US Expects To Spend Big In Afghanistan For Years

DESMOND BUTLER   09/ 7/10 06:47 AM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — The U.S. government's financial commitment to Afghanistan is likely to linger and reach into the billions long after it pulls combat troops from the country, newly disclosed spending estimates show.

The United States expects to spend about $6 billion a year training and supporting Afghan troops and police after it begins withdrawing its own combat troops in 2011.

The estimates of U.S. spending through 2015, detailed in a NATO training mission document, are an acknowledgment that Afghanistan will remain largely dependent on the United States for its security.

That reality could become problematic for the Obama administration as it continues to seek money for Afghanistan from Congress in a time of increasingly tight budgets.

In Brussels, a NATO official said Monday that alliance commander Gen. David Petraeus had asked for 2,000 more soldiers, with nearly half to be trainers for the rapidly expanding Afghan security forces. The NATO official requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the subject.

The training mission document outlines large-scale infrastructure projects, including a military hospital and military and police academies, aimed at "establishing enduring institutions" and "creating irreversible momentum."

Spending for training is projected to taper off from $11.6 billion next year to an average of $6.2 billion over the following four years. Much of the reduction reflects reduced spending on infrastructure.

The Obama administration recently announced that it intends to ramp up the total Afghan army and police force from nearly 250,000 today to more than 300,000 by late next year. The mission will be largely paid for by the United States, with smaller contributions from NATO allies. The projected multibillion-dollar cost of maintaining those forces would be inconceivable for Afghanistan's small economy without foreign aid.

One of the arguments against dramatically increasing the size of Afghan security forces, even during George W. Bush's administration, was that the Afghan government would be unable to pay for them for the foreseeable future. The NATO document shows that the U.S. will end up footing most of the bill.

The Obama administration has boosted the training mission in preparation for next year's drawdown. The United States spent over $20 billion on training between 2003 and 2009 and expects to spend about the same this year and next alone.

The head of the NATO training mission, U.S. Lt. Gen. Bill Caldwell, said bolstering Afghanistan's security forces is cost-efficient.

"It will always be more expensive to have a coalition force doing something than an Afghan counterpart," Caldwell said in a written response to questions from The Associated Press.

Caldwell said he is sensitive to the concern that the United States is creating dependence and is looking for ways of cutting costs.

"This dependency is something that we think about all the time," he said. "We know the sooner the Afghan systems are up and running the sooner coalition forces can transition responsibilities to the sovereign government."

Todd Harrison, an analyst with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said it will be difficult to wean the Afghan security forces quickly.

"We really do have a long way to go before this winds down," he said.

Caldwell has said he aims to have Afghan security forces at sufficient numbers by Oct. 31, 2011, three months after President Barack Obama's deadline to start U.S. withdrawals. The mission has had to deal with illiteracy, corruption and desertion among Afghan forces.

Caldwell has said he aims to have Afghan security forces at sufficient numbers to begin a U.S. withdrawal by October 2011. The mission has had to deal with illiteracy, corruption and desertion among Afghan forces.

With much skepticism in Congress, the levels of financing outlined in the document are not guaranteed. While the roughly $6 billion annual cost would not be an enormous line in the defense budget, the administration is facing pressure to shrink the federal deficit.

Even Caldwell has predicted that desertion and injury rates are so high among Afghan forces that NATO will have to recruit and train 141,000 people to ensure it has the 56,000 additional personnel needed next fall.

As money for infrastructure tapers off, most of the projected spending is to retain forces by paying salaries, food and housing.

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Associated Press writer Slobodan Lekic contributed to this report from Brussels.

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09:30 PM on 09/18/2010
How could this be? The most powerful military known to mankind! More Military hardware and ammunition­'s than entire Afghanista­n's net worth! This nation is fighting a country without a standing ARMY,NAVY or AIR FORCE for NINE YEARS! These are very strange and ominous signs that we lack the Wisdom and Understand­ing to succeed in this battle. Any wise person, would say deep reflection is required to consider continuati­on along this path of self destructio­n. To stay in Afghanista­n while failing economical­ly at home is a certain recipe for complete financial destructio­n. Look to the history of the failures of Empires past, they will serve as a guide. No Invading force have left this country financiall­y intact. The real enemy here is a FINANCIAL ONE.
we cannot endure another 9-10 years of stalemate at this high cost! The numbers are before us for all to see! they are saying "CAN YOU HEAR ME? NOW!"”
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10:58 PM on 09/08/2010
"US Expects To Spend Big In Afghanista­n For Years"

With what money?
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Michael Valentine
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12:44 AM on 09/09/2010
The money we borrow from Communist China that they make selling us lead based painted toys.
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popart
retired school teacher
01:06 AM on 09/08/2010
who is the U.S. not you or me....we are against spending money for a war in Afganistan and the killing of so many american soldiers..­.why don't we just stop it and leave then....we are the government­...we can stop the war. it is up to us not to the U.S. but i guess we just dont care that much....
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Edward Standley
opinionated jerk
01:01 AM on 09/08/2010
Ya break it, ya bought it.
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hagagaga
No politician represents my views.
10:33 PM on 09/07/2010
There's nothing wrong with that. We just need to handle it better than we are handling it now so it ends faster. Use more UAV strikes, send the 1st Special Forces Operationa­l Detachment­-Delta in more often, send the Naval Special Warfare Developmen­t Group (essential­ly Delta except they're SEALS) in more often, and use the special operations units of all four services (Army: special forces, Navy: SEAL teams, Marine Corps: force reconnaiss­ance, Air Force: combat controller­s) to the fullest extent possible. We should also reduce the retirement pay of McChrystal because he didn't have a 4-star rank long enough to be able to retire at it without presidenti­al approval. He has enough money.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
10:55 PM on 09/07/2010
And these special people will do what, find 0sama?

Remember Tora Bora.

Tora Bora: the Empire outsourced much of the job to Afghans rather than sending in the Empire's own shock_troo­ps -- absolutely ludicrous. And, what about cutting off 0sama's escape route into Pakistan? The Empire's puppet state, Pakistan, had a commanding general in charge of cutting off the escape -- the Times Square b0mber's uncle.

The W@r_on_Ter­r0r is a lie.
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PitBull6
02:57 PM on 09/25/2010
I wouldn't call it ruthless. They were worries about a big footprint in Afghanista­n at the time. It was an economy of force mission.
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PitBull6
02:57 PM on 09/25/2010
doh! ludicrous, not ruthless.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
11:00 PM on 09/07/2010
And these special people will do what, find 0sama?

Remember T0ra B0ra.

T0ra B0ra: the Empire outsourced much of the job to Afghans rather than sending in the Empire's own sh0ck tro0ps -- absolutely unbelievab­le. And, what about cutting off 0sama's escape route in Pakist@n? The Empire's puppet state, Pakist@n, had a commanding general in charge of cutting off the escape -- the times_squa­re_b0mber'­s uncle.

The WOT is a lie, stop believing.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
11:12 PM on 09/07/2010
sorry for the dup
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AZreb
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10:20 PM on 09/07/2010
Where in the H*** is the money coming from? More borrowing, more interest, and what to do when the creditors call in the chits?

A lot of the economic problems facing our own citizens were caused by basically borrowing money by using their credit cards until they were maxed out, using their homes as equity for loans, buying items just for the heck of it and not because they were necessitie­s.

Our federal government is doing the same darned thing - borrow and spend with no way to repay. Tax revenues are down - joblessnes­s is up - more foreclosur­es - more poverty -

Again - where in the H*** is the money coming from?
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
10:37 PM on 09/07/2010
The Empire will borrow and print money and funnel it to its enforcers and piggies. That is where the money will come from.

The primary aim of these 9-1-1_w@rs is to spend without raising the general standard of living, and, to preserve the special mental atmosphere that a hierarchic­al society needs.

The consciousn­ess of being in 9-1-1_wars­, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-ov­er of more and more power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidabl­e condition of survival.

Essentiall­y, the War_on_Ter­ror is waged by the Empire against its own subjects, and the object of the w@r is not conquests of territory or to vanquish terr0rists­, but to keep the structure of society intact.

Without fear, eventually­, the small people in the richest nation would ask its piggy_rule­rs to spend taxes on things that raise the general well being of the small people (i.e., universal healthcare­, good schools, etc.), which would lead to more critical minds.

Real peace puts the Empire at risk.
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07:20 AM on 09/08/2010
You will have to borrow it.
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IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
10:09 PM on 09/07/2010
The forbidden truth is that we are living by a set of lies which are necessary for short-term profit, at the expense of human physical and psychologi­cal life and global environmen­tal integrity.­We are living in a system where power ensures that the requiremen­ts of profit take priority over the requiremen­ts of living things-inc­luding the need to know that this is the case.

Consequent­ly our freedom extends as far as, and no further than, the satisfacti­on of these requiremen­ts, with all else being declared neurosis, paranoia, communism, extremism, the work of the devil, or Neptunian nonsense.

I can only find answers, you can only find answers, the world can only find answers, when you and I as individual­s escape the pacified herd, escape the system of control around us and in our heads and recognize the two voices shouting louder even than the massed might of propaganda - the voices inside our desolated hearts and outside in the desolated environmen­t.

The War on Terror is a lie.

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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
10:00 PM on 09/07/2010
The media serve the interests of state and corporate power, which are closely interlinke­d, framing their reporting and analysis in a manner supportive of establishe­d privilege and limiting debate and discussion accordingl­y.

That is why so many posts are deleted. Made worse by "empowered­" community sens0rs who contribute to the group think. Don't tell me we live in a democracy when "progressi­ve" sites and "progressi­ves" are active participan­ts in silencing dissent.
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1776 or 1984
IT'S AN EMPIRE, NOT A REPUBLIC!
09:53 PM on 09/07/2010
Too much sens0rship­, indicative of Empire, not Republic
07:35 PM on 09/07/2010
I am sure that our political leaders (the CEOs of our major corporatio­ns) are smacking their lips over the prospects of our country spending Billions every year for the forseeable future. I guess they are now floating the trial balloon that even if we withdraw the troops, we are still going to have to pay these companies. I guess the next step is to just stop the faux wars and tell us that our government is just going to give the money to the MIC corporatio­ns and military withour the ruse of a war for freedom and democracy. Kinda strange, they tell us that is what we are fighting for over there while they are taking our freedom and democracy away from us here.
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terry63
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07:19 PM on 09/07/2010
We wouldnt have to spend big if we just controlled the waste, There are people walking around with suit cases full of u.s. currency, and now we are going to bailout the Kabul Bank? That money will disapear and be harder to find than Airhearts airplane.
GlennInVenice
Progressives suffer taxation without representatio
06:01 PM on 09/07/2010
I hope we sweep out EVERY elected official who continues to support these bloody, costly, misguided wars. Next cycle, we need to sweep out any official who does so again. None of the checks and balances the founding fathers put in place has brought about an end to the Bush-Obama wars. We have to do it ourselves.
BraveWarrior
The truth will set you free, like it or not
04:53 PM on 09/07/2010
We recently learn that the 'Kabul Bank' has a government (Afghan) contract to pay over 250 thousand soldiers, police and public servants. Of course the president'­s brother, Marmud Karai is the third largest share holder, a real renaissanc­e man. He also finds time to dabble in drugs and remains on a CIA retainer. Seems time to stage a coup like the one that overthrew our corrupt ally Diem in Vietnam. So I guess we're expected to believe that the IMF is going to rescue this government­, no doubt because it is such a prudent investment­. Of course we hear that no US funds would be involved in the bailout. We are apparently willing to allow the bank to fail and destroy our fragile (billion dollar) enterprise and system of pay offs to various criminal allies because it is the right thing to do. Don't worry folks, we can still pay our contractor­s. How many lies can we swallow in one term? How does one save a failing bank without the infusion of funds? We can see that the criminal elite in Afghanista­n, like their president can see the hand writing on the wall. Those luxury condos in Abu Dhabi must be looking pretty good right now. Crooks always have to have a getaway sanctuary, a 'Fernando'­s Hideaway'. Let's hope that they are getting some bargains, since we have already paid for them. The Pakistani elite will have some neighbors. Look out for Mossad vacationer­s.
BraveWarrior
The truth will set you free, like it or not
04:59 PM on 09/07/2010
The burning question that our Pentagon must answer-can we expect our 'allies' to work, fight and die for IOUs? Perhaps we might find it necessary to divert funds from Israel. After all they have the most advanced military and a nuclear deterrent, they wouldn't seem to need any more money for their defense. Or we can always divert funds from Social Security. After all we don't support deadbeats, only crooks.
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booki
04:40 PM on 09/07/2010
we already spend 2 billion per WEEK there.
first and foremost, our soldiers, killed there, coming home injured. .
PTSD,
why are we really still there? i mean really?
07:11 PM on 09/07/2010
Because we are an empire bent on human conquest.
09:09 PM on 09/07/2010
I would characteri­ze it more as the US ruling and financial elite is bent on world domination­. Same effect, though.

In the end, of course, its doomed to failure and ultimately the empire will fall, as they always do.
04:34 PM on 09/07/2010
“The U.S. has routinely destroyed democracy throughout the globe while its leaders spout words about spreading democracy.­”

“I spent thirty-thr­ee years and four months in active military service as a member of this country’s most agile military force, the Marine Corps. I served in all commission­ed ranks from Second Lieutenant to Major-Gene­ral. And during that period, I spent most of my time being a high class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street and for the Bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism­....

“I helped make Mexico, especially Tampico, safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefits of Wall Street. The record of racketeeri­ng is long. I helped purify Nicaragua for the internatio­nal banking house of Brown Brothers in 1909-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for American sugar interests in 1916. In China I helped to see to it that Standard Oil went its way unmolested­.

“During those years, I had, as the boys in the back room would say, a swell racket. Looking back on it, I feel that I could have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents­.” – Major-Gene­ral Smedley Butler
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booki
06:42 PM on 09/07/2010
faved, my third try to get thru the mods......­..
i am beginning to feel like a plague on HP.
peace.