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Castro: Cuba's Economic Model 'Doesn't Work'

PAUL HAVEN   09/ 8/10 09:13 PM ET   AP

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HAVANA — Fidel Castro told a visiting American journalist that Cuba's communist economic model doesn't work, a rare comment on domestic affairs from a man who has conspicuously steered clear of local issues since stepping down four years ago.

The fact that things are not working efficiently on this cash-strapped Caribbean island is hardly news. Fidel's brother Raul, the country's president, has said the same thing repeatedly. But the blunt assessment by the father of Cuba's 1959 revolution is sure to raise eyebrows.

Jeffrey Goldberg, a national correspondent for The Atlantic magazine, asked if Cuba's economic system was still worth exporting to other countries, and Castro replied: "The Cuban model doesn't even work for us anymore," Goldberg wrote Wednesday in a post on his Atlantic blog.

He said Castro made the comment casually over lunch following a long talk about the Middle East, and did not elaborate. The Cuban government had no immediate comment on Goldberg's account.

Julia Sweig, a Cuba expert at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations who accompanied Goldberg on the trip, confirmed the Cuban leader's comment. She told The Associated Press she took the remark to be in line with Raul Castro's call for gradual but widespread reform.

Since stepping down from power in 2006, the ex-president has focused almost entirely on international affairs and said very little about Cuba and its politics, perhaps to limit the perception he is stepping on his brother's toes.

Goldberg, who traveled to Cuba at Castro's invitation last week to discuss a recent Atlantic article he wrote about Iran's nuclear program, also reported on Tuesday that Castro questioned his own actions during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis, including his recommendation to Soviet leaders that they use nuclear weapons against the United States.

Even after the fall of the Soviet Union, Cuba has clung to its communist system.

The state controls well over 90 percent of the economy, paying workers salaries of about $20 a month in return for free health care and education, and nearly free transportation and housing. At least a portion of every citizen's food needs are sold to them through ration books at heavily subsidized prices.

President Raul Castro and others have instituted a series of limited economic reforms, and have warned Cubans that they need to start working harder and expecting less from the government. But the president has also made it clear he has no desire to depart from Cuba's socialist system or embrace capitalism.

Fidel Castro stepped down temporarily in July 2006 due to a serious illness that nearly killed him.

He resigned permanently two years later, but remains head of the Communist Party. After staying almost entirely out of the spotlight for four years, he re-emerged in July and now speaks frequently about international affairs. He has been warning for weeks of the threat of a nuclear war over Iran.

Castro's interview with Goldberg is the only one he has given to an American journalist since he left office.

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Goldberg blog: http://www.theatlantic.com/jeffrey-goldberg/

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01:39 AM on 09/12/2010
CUBA UNDER the U.S.-BACKED DICTATOR BATISTA:

- Americans owned 70 % of the arable land

- 1% of the population controlled 46 % of the wealth

- Batista's goons and secret police killed 20,000 Cubans (tortured even more)

- 40 % of the population were illiterate

- 50 % of the population lived in Bohio shacks

- Dissidents were hung and left to dangle in the streets as a warning sign

- The Mafia (Meyer Lansky & Co) ran Havana and used Cuba as a whorehouse for rich gringos from the U.S.


.... These are the conditions that allowed Fidel and Che to rise to power
10:35 PM on 09/17/2010
- CUBA UNDER the U.S.-BACKED DICTATOR BATISTA:

You denies your self in comment you pasted below

- Americans owned 70 % of the arable land
Let's leave castrofascism self to deny this statement..... according to "Juventud Rebelde" (Rebel Youth) the oficial newspaper of Cuba's Communist Youth, cubans owned 99% of Cuba before castro..... take a look:
http://www.juventudrebelde.cu/columnas/lectura/2007-06-17/propietarios-ii-y-final/

- 1% of the population controlled 46 % of the wealth

Before castrofascism Cuba was one of the countries with larger middle class in the world (around half of the population ) and larger upper class (around a third of the population), the rest of was classified as poor by our own measurement standards that was much more strict that the world media. In such way our “poor people” never knew poverty conditions like India or Mexico
10:37 PM on 09/17/2010
- Batista's goons and secret police killed 20,000 Cubans (tortured even more)

The myth of 20.000 deaths was a lie published by magazine Bohemia director Miguel A. Quevedo who later recognized he did it to help castro. Mr. Quevedo made a public recognition of his lie and after that committed suicide. After 1959 Castro tried to find the real number of casualties that caused his “war” and addressed a commission to investigate the thing by interviewing relatives of the victims. This commission found less than 2000 victims but more than half of this number was caused by castro self……… after that castro silenced this statistics and never more this issue was taken up.

- 40 % of the population were illiterate

According to UN statistics 76 of population was literate in 1950. Follow the link.
http://ctp.iccas.miami.edu/FACTS_Web/Cuba%20Facts%20Issue%2043%20December.htm
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samtee
Shankapotomus.
05:30 PM on 09/10/2010
Hey Castro how about giving Obama a ring.
01:44 AM on 09/12/2010
"I believe that there is no country in the world including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country’s policies during the Batista regime. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will even go further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries. That is perfectly clear."

— U.S. President John F. Kennedy, interview with Jean Daniel, October 24, 1963
10:41 PM on 09/17/2010
Yes, Kennedy backed Castro and pushed out Batista by implementing a financial and weapon embargo on him and by making propaganda against Batista, false propaganda like this in your comment.
04:26 PM on 09/10/2010
UPDATE: Fidel Castro responds to Goldberg's interpretation

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Spanish: http://www.aporrea.org/internacionales/n165265.html

At another point Goldberg reports: "I asked him if he believed the Cuban model was something worth exporting."

Implicit in this question was the [false] theory that Cuba was even "exporting the revolution".
I replied "The Cuban model no longer works, even for us."
I said this without any anger or worries.

I'm having fun seeing how he interpreted my words to the letter, and consulted Julia Sweig (an analyst at CFR who accompanied him).

The fact is that my answer meant the exact opposite of what the two American journalists interpreted on the Cuban model.

My idea, as the whole world knows, is that the capitalist system no longer works for the United States or the world. How could such a system work for a socialist country like Cuba?
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
11:05 AM on 09/18/2010
Granma did report Fidel's correction. http://www.granma.cu/ingles/cuba-i/13septiembre-37f-mensaj.html 
Much more detailed, especially about the failures of American policy. Ignored in the US, of course.
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Jennifer Hagan
Expat Mother of two living in France.
02:52 PM on 09/10/2010
:o. Yes My mouth is still opened on hearing this news.
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FoonTheElder
Always choosing between the lesser of two evils
02:49 PM on 09/10/2010
Neither does most of the rest of the world's economic model work except for the economic elite.

http://ampedstatus.com/full-report-the-economic-elite-vs-the-people-of-the-united-states-of-america
02:29 PM on 09/10/2010
It took this idiot thug in the green costume 60 years to figure this out.

Now when is he going to return all of the property that he and his thug-comrades stole from everyone?
01:43 AM on 09/12/2010
"Brothels flourished. A major industry grew up around them; government officials received bribes, policemen collected protection money. Prostitutes could be seen standing in doorways, strolling the streets, or leaning from windows. One report estimated that 11,500 of them worked their trade in Havana. Beyond the outskirts of the capital, beyond the slot machines, was one of the poorest, and most beautiful countries in the Western world."

— David Detzer, American journalist, after visiting Havana in the 1950s
10:53 PM on 09/17/2010
While little David was busy looking at the sand corn in others eyes UN oficials was busy investigating this:
http://www.herenciacu­lturalcuba­na.org/docs/Cuba-Builders-of-Wealth-OAE-english.pdf
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behavingbadly
lovingly crafted artisanal comments
12:09 PM on 09/10/2010
the man recognizes a changed world and the need to adapt. we'll catch on some day
01:46 PM on 09/10/2010
Oh please. Castro will be remembered just like Ceausescu.
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behavingbadly
lovingly crafted artisanal comments
03:48 PM on 09/10/2010
you're either a Cuban 'exile' or a teabagger. either way the comparison is ludicrous.
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Only Team America: World Police Can Save Us!
10:41 AM on 09/10/2010
VIVA LA REVOLU...............................Whoops CAPITALISM!
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07:38 AM on 09/10/2010
Now we have something in common.
05:23 AM on 09/10/2010
Many of you are misinterpreting the quote (which is one sentence, without any follow-up).

Castro's referring to Cuba's model under the trade embargo.
We know this because Mexican 'La Jornada' discussed this very issue with him.
They published their interview only days before Goldberg,

Here's the relevant excerpt:

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http://www.granma.cu/ingles/cuba-i/9septiembre-36F-entrev2.html

"...when the United States decreed the blockade...
NOBODY, NO COUNTRY, COULD TRADE WITH CUBA; there COULDN’T BE ANY BUYING OR SELLING; heaven help that country or company which did not submit to the COMMERCIAL HARASSMENT decreed by the United States.

Even today, NO FOOD COMPANY IS ALLOWED TO TRADE WITH CUBA, not even taking into account the importance of the volumes that the island would acquire or because CUBA IS ALWAYS OBLIGED TO PAY CASH IN ADVANCE. We had to resort to BUYING CONTRABAND, even though they were very EXPENSIVE..."

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This is not something he's ever wanted for Cubans.
And it's not something Castro has ever wished upon his allies.
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
09:55 AM on 09/10/2010
He even expresses regret for persecution of homosexuals, says he's not personally homophobic, but accepts responsibility. WOW
Did Granma report on his remarks concerning anti-semitism?
04:03 PM on 09/10/2010
To be sure, I only used the Granma link because it's contains an english-translation of the Mexican 'La Jornada' interview.

As far as Granma...
In Spanish, they've mentioned Jeff Goldberg meeting with Fidel & the head of the Cuban Jewish whatever. But I haven't seen Goldberg's Atlantic interview translated into Spanish.
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RobertoAlba
04:36 AM on 09/10/2010
It took this despot long enough? Have you had enough fun you tyrant? Me and my fellow countrymen want to have a chance to elect the leaders we want for once?

If you recognize that your model has failed perhaps you can do us all a favor and just move out of the way and let others try something different. Stop clinging to power and give us a chance to build something better.
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Ergon
Man From Atlan
09:57 AM on 09/10/2010
So you can move back and build a casino and steal the recently discovered oil fields? The Revolution isn't for sale, and the people who live there, and not, Miami, will decide their own future, thank you very much.
10:44 PM on 09/17/2010
Revolution???!!!!.... wich revolution???..... castrofascism do you mind???..... yes , people in Cuba will decide Cuba's future and this future will not be under castrofascism .... you can be sure!!!
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My micro-bio is empty. Or dependently-arisen?
09:06 PM on 09/11/2010
..."If you recognize that your model has failed perhaps you can do us all a favor and just move out of the way and let others try something different. Stop clinging to power and give us a chance to build something better."

One would only hope that the Republicans in the USA would take your advice. After the disaster of their economic policies they have done everything they can to block all attempts to "try something different".

Its a strange world when Fidel Castro seems more open-minded than the GOP.
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Francois Bergeron
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03:40 AM on 09/10/2010
duh.
01:12 AM on 09/10/2010
Jeffrey Goldberg is probably the last person whom I would trust to give an honest rendering of Fidel’s words. As it happens, I am half way through Ignacio Ramonet’s 2007 revised edition of “My Life” which is essentially a long conversation with Fidel. Nothing Goldberg relates gels with what Fidel, who is still lucid, passionate and very much a revolutionary, says in that volume. It looks a lot more like what Jeffrey Goldberg says Fidel says, strained through first a translation then a neo-con riddle.
02:50 PM on 09/10/2010
Ignacio Ramonet ?. Isn't this the LeMonde guy that praises failing states and dictatorships such as Venezuela and Cuba while living the good life in Paris. I wouldn't put too much credibility in his account either.
04:42 PM on 09/10/2010
"My Life" is essentially a monologue with a few questions, no interpretation or opinion thrown in by Ignacio Ramonet.

Well well, who'd a guessed:

"HAVANA — Fidel Castro says his comments about Cuba's communist economic model were misinterpreted by a visiting American journalist.

Appearing at the University of Havana on Friday, the 84-year-old ex-president says he meant "exactly the opposite" of the quote contained in a blog by Atlantic magazine reporter Jeffrey Goldberg."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/10/castro-i-meant-exactly-th_n_712420.html
10:47 PM on 09/17/2010
Ok, let's not take in account Goldberg version but the versions of the several translators and spanish speaking witnesses that heard same things and states same thing Goldberg heard and states.
09:33 PM on 09/09/2010
It's amazing that it took this genius 60 years to figure this out.

He should doff his little military costume, beg forgiveness, and offer to return everything that he and his thugs stole from everybody.
12:31 AM on 09/10/2010
What's amazing is how few experts and leaders in the west have figured out that capitalism doesn't work either. I'd love to see Bush and Cheney apologize for the trillions they stole from working people.

What if we stop demonizing those with opposing views and looked for solutions that actually work?
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RobertoAlba
04:28 AM on 09/10/2010
Speaking of solutions, Castro said the model doesn't work, so now what?
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afwxman adrop
What, no 1900 yr old believers?
09:24 PM on 09/09/2010
Absolutes never work; this is true for every economic, social and theocratic approach to life.

The US is still recovering from unchecked capitalism and is still handcuffed by evangelical zealotry.

Castro, although late, should be commended for acknowledging his previously held absolute beliefs are wrong.
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Olderandwiser55
getting older and wiser....
09:29 PM on 09/09/2010
Absolutely correct.
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afwxman adrop
What, no 1900 yr old believers?
09:39 PM on 09/09/2010
Great...thanks for blowing my argument ;)
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RobertoAlba
04:29 AM on 09/10/2010
He should admit the same thing to the country. His words have not appeared in any of the national media in Cuba. Now that he has recognized that his socialist model is a failure, now what?
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charlygardel
My micro-bio is empty. Or dependently-arisen?
09:10 PM on 09/11/2010
Cubans have access to the internet, blogs, etc. I'm sure that this statement spread about as quickly there as it did here.