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Paul Begala, Democratic Strategist, On A GOP Government Shutdown: 'Bring It On'


First Posted: 09/09/10 05:03 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:35 PM ET

The Democratic Governors Association hosted a panel on Thursday with a group of Democratic strategists involved in the 1994 elections who argued that 2010 won't be as bad for the party as that year. They stressed that Democrats need to be more specific in portraying what a Congress controlled by Republicans will look like and pointed to the gubernatorial races as key to gaining -- and retaining -- power.

The panelists, which included Democratic strategist Paul Begala, former White House press secretary Dee Dee Myers, former Clinton deputy chief of staff Harold Ickes, and DGA Executive Director Nathan Daschle, said that Democrats need to stay focused on not only talking about how many of the country's problems were created by Republicans but also stressing what they would do if they regain a majority.

One idea floated by some conservatives is to shut down the government in order to block President Obama's agenda. "There's going to be a government shutdown, just like in '95 and '96 but we're going to win it this time and I'll be fightin' on your side," said GOP pollster Dick Morris at a recent Americans for Prosperity Foundation conference. Right-wing CNN pundit Erick Erickson and Alaska GOP Senate candidate Joe Miller have also endorsed the idea.

Christina Bellantoni of Talking Points Memo asked the panelists at the DGA event whether Democrats should be talking more about a possible government shutdown by Republicans. Begala responded that it's too "abstract" to talk about on the campaign trail, but if it happens, Democrats should welcome it and go on the offensive. "But should it come, you know to quote the previous president, 'Bring it on,'" he said. "I think to voters right now, particularly independents, there are theoretical conservatives and operational conservatives."

Begala said that many independent voters seem to be all in favor of the theory of lower government spending, but they are also against having any of their services cut.

They're for more teachers, more cops, more firefighters. They're for Social Security, they're for Medicare, they're for veterans benefits. When it gets to any specifics, by golly, they like it. People are not running around holding up signs, saying, 'Cancel veterans benefits.' They're not holding up signs saying, 'Unemployment benefits should stop.' Right? They're just saying -- it's a general matter against spending. So Republicans win when they say, spending spending spending is bad. [...]


But then when a Democrat stands up and says, 'What he means is, abolish Social Security, abolish veterans benefits, abolish Medicare," people go, "We don't want to do that!" ... No one in Colorado saying, gee, I wish I had fewer firefighters in Boulder. ... I think we should make it operational, not theoretical.


Harold Ickes, former deputy chief of staff to Bill Clinton, said that national Republicans generally "have a much more profound understanding of governors" than Democrats do. "You see the national Republican leadership has really put its weight behind raising money and increasing the number of seats it controls. "One, they want to control state houses because they want to control state houses," he said. "But this year, they understand is not unique, but it's close to unique, because of the context of the census reapportionment and redistricting." He added that people like Republican Governors Association Chair Gov. Haley Barbour (R-Miss.) know that even if Democrats hold the House in 2010, Republicans are "confident" they will be able to take it back in 2012 if they win enough governorships and control the redistricting process.

The panelists also all argued that while Democrats are struggling this year as in 1994, the Republicans are in a far weaker position, lacking unity, specific policy proposals such as Newt Gingrich's Contract with America and general popularity. "I think one of the biggest differentiating factors is that in 1994, Democrats had been in charge for 40 years," said Myers. "We hadn't had a taste of what Republicans were going to do. That was a huge difference."

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The Democratic Governors Association hosted a panel on Thursday with a group of Democratic strategists involved in the 1994 elections who argued that 2010 won't be as bad for the party as that year. T...
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COMMUNITY PUNDITS
TXfemmom 10:31 PM on 09/09/2010
Paul is correct in that the Democrats need to balance out this discussion of "smaller" government by pointing out exactly what the Republicans intend to do, such as attack Medicare and Social Security and cut funds which will effect local and national programs which effect our lives every day.  As he says, theoretically, that may be attractive to some voters, but when confronted with what the  Read More...
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citizen of the universe
"Lois, Mom, Mama, Mommie, Ma"
09:34 PM on 09/12/2010
I think Democrats give to much credit to the electorate. America is now a stupid nation and unless you talk in bumperstickers or Palinese Republicans will win and what is now left of America will be wiped out, and with the media we got now, the destruction will be televised. 2010 is when the government is declared "officially" broken.
06:01 PM on 09/12/2010
I am a big fan of Paul...........Paul Rocks !
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Schalaine
We are women. We vote.
07:20 PM on 09/12/2010
So am I and yes he does!
08:18 AM on 09/13/2010
I agree!
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
12:56 PM on 09/12/2010
For all the Americans who "want to take their country back," please read this to find out where it's been going -- the top 2%.
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/the-u.s.-middle-class-is-being-wiped-out-here%27s-the-stats-to-prove-it-520657.html?
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Screed
My car elevator goes to the top floor!
12:16 PM on 09/12/2010
Problem: The last time there was no Fox to shape the facts into their own mushy baby food for the dimwads to digest. I can see it as an Obama commie/fascist/socialist/nazi/muslim plot to bring down the country. Good luck with that Paul.
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Schalaine
We are women. We vote.
07:21 PM on 09/12/2010
I'm sorry but, WTF are you talking about?
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01:31 AM on 09/13/2010
The right is stronger now, and the media has moved more to the right, Foxnews did not exist back in 1994 and conservative talk radio was not as popular as it is today, that's what "Screed" seems to be talking about. Some variables that the article did not include that need to be taken into consideration in this election.
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CJ40inWI
Save Pip Boy! Stop SOPA!
10:28 AM on 09/12/2010
Imagine, they (The GOP) does their shutdown. Let's see. Medicare checks, nope, SSI and SSDI checks, nope. Military pay? nope. VA healthcare? Nope. Unemployment? Nope and we can go on..National Parks, Interior, USDA inspectors...
It didn't work the first time you idiots, what makes you think it will work this time? Because you have cheerleaders on AM radio and Fox news? They think the public is MAD now? Oooohhh boy just wait. I wouldn't be surprised that within their first year of Congress that bricks are flying through windows.
10:13 AM on 09/12/2010
Oh my...we can't have a government shut down...without the department of education, nobody would learn anything...without the department of transportation, nobody could get anywhere...without the department of agriculture, we would all starve. "The socialist confuses government with society, so much so that if we say that we don't want the government to do a certain thing they say that we do not want that thing done at all..." economist, philosopher and legal scholar Frederic Bastiat (1850)
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MJinCanada
Safe from zombies until my 2nd cup of coffee
12:33 PM on 09/12/2010
Frederic Bastiat had a bee in his bonnet about socialism.

He also thought government shouldn't pander to industry, because that harms the interests of the consumer and ultimately those of industry. So obviously he thought business people were short-sighted idiots too.
09:11 AM on 09/12/2010
The world is saying they have to see if America is that dumb with their own eyes.I haven't seen America that dumb and need to see that one with my own eyes to believe it.If they are that dumb at last I can see a very bright future because I may be dumb but nobody I know is that dumb.
09:05 AM on 09/12/2010
People dumb enough to vote Republican won't be hard to set up the next housing crisis on.
07:00 AM on 09/12/2010
Hey Axelrod, maybe its time for fighting a bit dirty. You know so you save face before you're utterly demolished.
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justsomeguywhocameby
Wherever you go there you are.
08:43 AM on 09/12/2010
Huh?
08:59 AM on 09/12/2010
Which part do you find overly difficult to process? The part where I'm asking Axelrod to fight a little dirty, like the Republicans, or the part where I predict he will demolished, or in other words lose heavily in 2010 and 2012 elections? You're a moderator and you're having a hard time interpreting this?
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capitaldysfunction
White male never voted Republican
05:50 AM on 09/12/2010
A Republican government shutdown "is too abstract" to talk about on the campaign trail but we should jump on the Republicans if and when they do it. Social Security and veterans' benefits shut down and the checks stopped is too abstract for the American people to understand? Unfortunately, they are probably correct.

Maybe we should just pray to Jeebus. Why Americans vote for a party that is so obviously working solely for the rich and corporations is a sign that we're not very bright. Democracy requires an intelligent and informed populace. Dat ain't us.
08:11 PM on 09/11/2010
A panel of hacks from the Clinton era is here to help the Dem party.
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justsomeguywhocameby
Wherever you go there you are.
08:56 AM on 09/12/2010
In case you have forgotten, Clinton's Presidency was one of the most successful in recent history.
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RMorr2002
09:43 AM on 09/13/2010
LOL!  Yes!  Having the President  Impeached for Perjury and Obstruction of Justice was SUCH a high point for the American People!
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ClintBMD
Now where did I leave that Micro-bio again?
06:29 PM on 09/11/2010
While my hope for Obama diminishes nearly daily, the thought of a Republican takeover is scary. I will vote and not one of my votes will go to a Republican. Unfortunately most of the Democrats are Republican Lite, but the Dems haven't been taken over by the tin-hats.

I hope that many more alienated Dems do as I'm doing, but I doubt it. If, however, we catch our collective heads and turn back a Republican majority, then Obama had better step up and start leading. Or quit - either way I don't care. Biden would be far better.
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capitaldysfunction
White male never voted Republican
05:19 AM on 09/12/2010
A second for all of your motions.
05:06 PM on 09/11/2010
The republican party is a DANGER TO MAN KIND.

look closely, some of them have such deep suntans from staying too long in hell planning their evil ways to destroy America and its humanity.

if you look even closer, you can see their HORNS.
08:13 PM on 09/11/2010
Man kind? And you're suggesting that people with darker skin come from hell?
09:31 PM on 09/11/2010
Orange skin
02:28 AM on 09/12/2010
Lighten up, Doood.

Get it. . .lighten up. . .?
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lindaj3884
03:21 PM on 09/11/2010
Thanks for calling out the Republican obstructionists. All democrats should be doing that not just Weiner and Grayson. They need to show some guts and come back at the Republicans just as strongly as they have been attacked. The Rethugs have fillibustered more than anyone in history and they used to cry and shout that the dems were obstructionists. Problem is they still think they are in power even in the minority and it is their way or no way. At this rate our democracy cannot survive. Stop and think people.
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03:15 PM on 09/11/2010
Any hard working individual who is thinking of voting Republican should watch a movie called "Fun with Dick and Jane" starring Jim Carrey, Tea Leoni and Alec Baldwin. You should pay close attention to Alec Baldwins character, Jack McCallister, CEO of Globodyne. Although it is a very funny comedy and actually a remake from 1977 starring George Segal and Jane Fonda, it gives us all a pretty good idea of what to expect if the Republicans regain control. It gives us everything except the happy ending!

P.S.- Take a look at the credits at the end. I think you will see some familiar or should I say infamous companies that they got a lot of research from.