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Wiccan Community Upset With O'Donnell, Calls Witchcraft Comments 'Teaching Moment'

First Posted: 09/20/10 02:20 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 06:45 PM ET

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Christine O'Donnell announced that she "dabbled into witchcraft" during a 1999 appearance on Bill Maher's "Politically Incorrect."

Christine O'Donnell's mercurial candidacy for the United States Senate has elevated the issue of witchcraft to uncommon political heights. But not everyone associated with the religion is pleased.

Last Friday, remarks emerged from an appearance the Delaware Republican made during a 1999 taping of "Politically Incorrect," in which she acknowledged that she had "dabbled into witchcraft" but "never joined a coven." O'Donnell immediately distanced herself from the quote, asking whether it was fair to hold candidates responsible for the "questionable folks" they hung out with in high school. The clarification may have been the only sane political move for O'Donnell to make. But it had the side effect of angering an already politically sensitive pagan community.

"Yes, this was 11 years ago she said that," said Reverend Selena Fox, the High Priestess & Senior Minister of the Circle Sanctuary a non-profit organization dedicated to promoting paganism and nature spirituality. "But the kinds of things she is saying now, saying 'well in high school you are with despicable characters' or some such thing, she is actually defaming Wiccans. Whether she intends to do that or not as a way to try and get herself out of this political problem she has created for herself, the fact is America really needs to be a place where you can celebrate diversity and practice your religion without getting ridiculed or defamed."

Fox, who has been active in fighting anti-Wiccan measures in Congress and the military for the past 25 years, showcased a bit of political deftness when she diplomatically called O'Donnell's candidacy a "teaching moment" for the country. Debates over religious tolerance, she offered, have been shrouded recently in heated political rhetoric. And there was now growing concern among both she and members of her organization that "there will be more ridicule as well as more misinformation" about Wiccans and witchcraft because of O'Donnell's remarks.

"Any political candidate that is going to equate witchcraft with Satanism is ill informed and is not likely to get the support of people involved in nature religion," she said, noting that the pagan community was "multi-partisan."

"I'm concerned," she said. "I'm concerned that 25 years of work that the Lady Liberty League and other Wiccan and pagan civil rights and religious freedom groups have been involved in... that there will be more misinformation as well as ridicule and disrespect. We are living in politically turbulent times."

UPDATE: A spokesperson for the neopagan network "The Witches' Voice" who goes by the name "Diotima Mantineia" reached out to the Huffington Post to offer further condemnation of O'Donnell's initial witchcraft remarks. Making the point that there is a "very large pagan community in Delaware," Mantineia called the Delaware Republican's conflation of witchcraft and Satanism "disappointing."

I really have to question what she is talking about because witchcraft and Satanism are two different things... witches or Wiccans do not believe in Satan. We don't even believe that Satan exists. Satan is a Christian deity of some kind. He is part of the Christian religion not ours. We worship nature; we work very closely with nature. We do not have blood on our altar and we have little to do with Satan. So I don't know what Ms. O'Donnell is talking about. I wonder if she knows what she was talking about.
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Christine O'Donnell's mercurial candidacy for the United States Senate has elevated the issue of witchcraft to uncommon political heights. But not everyone associated with the religion is pleased. ...
Christine O'Donnell's mercurial candidacy for the United States Senate has elevated the issue of witchcraft to uncommon political heights. But not everyone associated with the religion is pleased. ...
 
 
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09:46 AM on 10/05/2010
Christine stop pissing off the witches,before you end up on that sacrificial altar you spoke about or get into a broom bashing brawl.
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satanlite
Liberal blogger
12:59 PM on 10/05/2010
Ignorance.
07:52 PM on 10/01/2010
Not all witches or pagans are Wiccan. Wiccans tend to think they own paganism and that's simply not true. The rest of the pagan world tries to avoid them. that's not to say O'Donnell was actually associated with Satanists at all. Seeing as she is Christian now, it is the Christian belief that any gods not the Christian God are Satan. Folk need to get over it. And it upsets me to see so many liberals, some of whom I've worked with, bash this woman simply because she's a Conservative christian NOW. If she were liberal and actually a witch now, liberals would come to her defense. I wouldn't have to see O'Donnell flying on a broom on SNL.

- Signed, A once liberal Wiccan who now considers herself conservative pagan
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terragazelle60
10:03 PM on 10/04/2010
No we do not own Paganism...and as far as all the Witches/Wiccans I know they say that all Wiccans are Pagan, but not all Pagans are Wiccan.

As to trying to avoid us? Really? BS...
I don't care if she is Christian...since when is it any Wiccan's job to say what path anyone should follow.I certainly would not want her as a liberal..gods, we have enough flakes.
If you were ever a Wicca you would know that she was never Wiccan or any kind of Witch, a dabbler or not.

Oh and what exactly is a conservative Pagan? Its like saying my religion is Christian. Ok...so what religion? Baptist, methodists? Pagan is an umbrella term that covers earth-centric religions.
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satanlite
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01:01 PM on 10/05/2010
There is definitely a segment of man hating Wiccans I'll have no contact with (which is fine with them I"m sure since I"m a guy).
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Teagle03
04:45 PM on 09/22/2010
This is news?
09:56 AM on 09/24/2010
If this were a Christian persecution, it would be all over the news so why not when it's another religion?
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Ron333wood
“There is no terror, Cassius, in your threats, f
10:37 AM on 09/22/2010
Glad to see this thread is "petering" out...she doesn't warrant the conversation.
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11:33 PM on 09/21/2010
I don't see why the Wiccan community is surprised O"Donnell is distancing herself from them. Politicians throw people and groups under the bus all the time if they see them as a threat to their goals.

Maybe the teaching moment here is that if EVERYONE left everyone else's religion out of their political rhetoric, we might actually accomplish something. Faith or lack of faith is no one's business.
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stacy1467
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01:23 AM on 09/22/2010
O'Donnell's a liar, she knows nothing of witchcraft, there is no Satan in Neo-paganism. Satan is a Christian idea, therefore Satan is a Christian, not of a Pagan Culture. I agree with you on leaving religion out of politics. Spirituality should not be pimped-out for political gain. We might want to consider Atheist's for office in the future.

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stacy1467
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01:35 AM on 09/22/2010
O'Donnell is not telling the truth, she knows nothing of Witchcraft or Neo-paganism; there is no Satan in Paganism. Satan is a Christian concept, therefore he must be Christian. I agree with you on one thing, politics and religion should remain separate spirituality should not be pimped for political gain. I think we should consider nominating Atheist's the next time around.

Fanned.
03:13 AM on 09/22/2010
I really have to question you, and others who have commented on this pathetically written article, on your knowledge on what this Satan is. Everyones throwing around "Satan is a Christian concept!" when that is historically wrong!

LaVey Satanism makes a mockery of Christianity by using Satan, are we then to say that this mocked concept is still Christian in origin? Are we talking about someone who performs ritual sacrifices in the name of some mystical force named Satan?

Christianity borrowed the belief of Satan from Judaism. Islam borrowed the idea from Christianity, and so on and so on. What satanism are we talking about here? Or are the majority of the self-appointed witches as ignorant of other practices as the person that theyre judging?

Not all witches are wiccans. People shouldnt usurp a practice and then argue about it needlessly and in vain, but then again faux-rage sells in the media. God forbid if a homosexual wiccan transgendered paraplegic was disparaged. The media would have to fight back each other for the coverage.
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10:53 PM on 09/21/2010
It doesn't matter if she is a Wiccan or not. What matters is that what she described is so clearly not Wiccan (or even Satanism) and therefore, is something she made up.
04:58 PM on 09/21/2010
OMG, did he write this with a straight face?
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Ron333wood
“There is no terror, Cassius, in your threats, f
03:14 PM on 09/21/2010
“Yes, it seems fair to hold her responsible for teen age mistakes...they're holding Obama responsible for his birth!!! I don't know what's going on in the minds of the people...Joe "unemployment benefits are un-Constitutional" Miller, Sharon "bring back Prohibition" Angle, Rand'y' "secret plan to balance the budget and continue the Bush Tax Cuts for the wealthy" Paul and "Witcha- wacca-doodle" O'Donnell” who feels compelled to stick her nose into your right of "self-gratification".
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Dave TN
I ym' what I ym' and that's all that I ym'
01:35 AM on 09/22/2010
I never thought I would see a gop candidate that would make Sara Palin look smart (or at least smarter). Technically Palin actually comes across as conniving but there is a sparkle of intelligence required to be that manipulating. This O'Dunce character fails to even make that grade.
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nana-anne
just trying to make sense of the senseless
01:32 PM on 09/21/2010
Who cares if she is a witch? We could use more members of the Wiccen faith in Congress. They have more reverence for the earth and its health than most, if not all Republicans. It's Ms O'Donnell's fiscal foolishness that scares me. If she can't handle her own finances, at 41, why would anyone think her competent to contribute to solving the financial chaos we face as a nation today. Also some should tell her that the money contributed to her campaign is NOT HERS.
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alterego55
Flash your citations or leave!
01:39 PM on 09/21/2010
But she's a WINO. Wiccan In Name Only. So she would not be much of a help, would she? (very sarcastically of course)
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02:20 PM on 09/21/2010
I don't even think she knows what a Wiccan is. By "witchcraft" she probably thinks of stuff she saw on The Wizard of Oz.
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Kealadi
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07:22 PM on 09/21/2010
"We could use more members of the Wiccen faith in Congress. They have more reverence for the earth and its health than most, if not all Republicans."
Agreed! But Ms. O'Donnell was not dabbling in real Wicca. A picnic with a little blood on the altar is Satanic, not Wiccan. But the fruit never falls far from the tree. She cheated on her taxes. She's financially irresponsible, and she didn't pay people who worked for her. Do the people of Delaware really want someone like that fondling THEIR tax dollars? She's in it for the power and attention. Big Ego. What other skeletons does she have in her closet, I wonder? Maybe we'll get treated to another dandy on the next Real Time show. I can't wait!
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RJ2500
Bishop Willard's best man at 4 weddings
12:52 PM on 09/21/2010
As Nancy Reagan used to say about Jane Wyman, "That Witch!"
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GBO
12:48 PM on 09/21/2010
The witches are on the prowl!!!!
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terragazelle60
10:23 PM on 09/22/2010
Please...remember what a proper noun is and capitalize Witch.
I am one and as Christian gets that big C I can get that respect also.

Blessed be... ; )
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kareemachan
watashi ha tororu ga oroka da to omoi masu。
12:34 PM on 09/21/2010
FTA: "I don't know what Ms. O'Donnell is talking about. I wonder if she knows what she was talking about."

Truer words were never spoken.
12:23 PM on 09/21/2010
Okay, so she was a High School student when this happened? Where were her family's values then? I understand, a good Christian family would not have their daughter out with a young man past midnight. Did this Christian family fall down on the job and not teach their daughter the Christian Family Values they so heavily preach? Or, did Ms O’Donnell simply ignore those teachings in exchange for a FUN time? Does the fact that Ms O’Donnell’s date took her to a bloody Satanic alter provoke images of any activities other than picnicking at that age?

Which is it, Tea Partiers? Do as I say not as I do? Is it that you have a Utopian image, in your minds, of what life should be? Because it certainly doesn’t appear to be life as it truly is. Help us out here!

Personally, I don’t care. But, by whose standards would you like us to judge your practices? You call for pure Christian values: zero tolerance for pre-marital sex, masturbation, abortion, adultery, and the list goes on. I’m sure most of us can name several of you who have indulged in such Un-Christian activities including masturbation.

So, you call for sex education to be abolished in lieu of preaching abstinence? And, where did that get Sarah and Bristol? Not to mention the “throw caution to the wind” attitude towards the spread of venereal disease.

I’m confused.
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Maureen Mower
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12:52 PM on 09/21/2010
Having been raised as a Catholic (I'm an atheist now), I'm not the least confused. That IS the prevailing attitude among the religous "elites". They are thoroughly convinced that their "sins" don't count - either because they've been "saved" or because they can go to confession on Saturday and have the slate wiped clean, over and over again.

I could tell you stories of the "sins" of Catholics that would make your hair curl and turn white in ten minutes - but I'm sure you've got plenty of your own. There's no difference with the "born again" crowd either, except perhaps that they are even more "holier than thou" than the Catholics (and I didn't really think that was possible until I met some of them).

It seems to be part of the nature of being religious - the only way you can reassure yourself that you really are on track for admission to "Heaven" is by comparing yourself to everyone else and finding THEM to be far more sinful than you are (even if you're a Mafia thug with 20 or more murders on your conscience).
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Kealadi
Seeker of Truth
07:33 PM on 09/21/2010
I don't know which is worse in high school, experimenting with drugs, sex, alcohol, or having a Satanic picnic with a little blood on the altar. Maybe that's about the time when the movie "The Craft" came out, and maybe those kids were trying to be "cool", I dunno. But even if her High School "dabbling" was innocent, her later sins were not. They were criminal. (Perhaps she was more influenced by dark forces than she would want to admit.) Anyway, the entire Victorian Era was a bit over the top as far as prudishness is concerned, and this girl sounds pretty Victorian to me!
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WolfieCA
08:19 PM on 09/21/2010
Yeah, but the Victorian era was also the time when the purity only existed on the surface. Brothels abounded and Syphillis was a HUGE problem, since all those faithful, married men were seeing prostitutes and then taking their disease back to their unsuspecting wives.
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01:47 AM on 09/22/2010
Victorian, prudish?

You do realize the Victoria in "Victoria's secret", is Queen Victoria, right?
11:59 AM on 09/21/2010
Christine O'Donnell turned me into a newt!
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02:30 PM on 09/21/2010
A newt?
04:59 PM on 09/21/2010
I got better!
02:29 PM on 09/23/2010
This means WAR!!
08:56 PM on 09/21/2010
But does she weigh more than a duck?
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Dave TN
I ym' what I ym' and that's all that I ym'
02:23 AM on 09/22/2010
I guess the question must be asked, "does she float?".
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RJ2500
Bishop Willard's best man at 4 weddings
11:46 AM on 09/21/2010
Is it fair to hold candidates responsible for the "questionable folks" they hung out with in high school?

Yes, it is!
Viper
Former repub, still repenting
12:12 PM on 09/21/2010
They had Obama pallng around with un convicted terrorist when he 8, and 30 years latyer when he and "THE TERRORIST" were both employed by a major State Univeristies.. as a professor.

They have Obama not being born in the US... so they have attacked him at age ZERO.. eventhough the repug Governor of the State of Hawaii has certified his birth certificate...... Sories prionted in the newspapers of his birth at the time...

They have him as an islamic because of his father he met oncce... failing to mention his white grand parents from KANSAS, not knmown for islamic activities... in the sixties...LOL.

They critized him as a Christian because of the minister in his Chruch...

They call him marxist and socialist because he bailed out a car company, and bailed out the banks and because he is running deficits and trippled the debt and has 10.4 percent 3 years after taking office unemployment and exteneded unemployment insurance...Oh wait, that was Reagan!!!! But he was White!


Regards
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PortlandZoo
Wait... what?
01:51 PM on 09/21/2010
excellent, Viper. you are fanned!